gruecd
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Yeah, but it hurts so good! :(
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Ran a 10k in June (2 Viewers)
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Sand
Footballguy
Can you unpack the "+ 50 seconds" part?Yeah, but it hurts so good!
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Soooo good to catch up on all the news after a four-day conference in D.C.! Lot of good stuff going on ...Lehigh, sorry to hear about the set-back. Gruecd, we've talked, and you know I'm always available to help out.
While in D.C. I had back to back days of 6 mile a.m. runs and 25-30 minute afternoon swims. But here's the good part:
The conference was at the Gaylord Conference Center about 6 miles south of downtown D.C. and right on the Potomac River. I actually stayed a few miles away (cheaper price allowed me to rent a van to get me and others from my university around for some sightseeing). On Thursday, I brought along swim gear and was able to slip into the Gaylord pool for 30 minutes. But they didn't have a lap lane, so the whole time I was dodging kids - good lunge-and-look training, but kind of a pain. I decided on Friday to take a dip in the Potomac. They had some boat docks and no-wake buoys, so I determined it was safe enough. The water wasn't the cleanest, and it had some current to fight, but hey, it's training and a new experience. The conference center and some nearby buildings overlooked the river, so I just had an inkling of what might happen. Sure enough ... As I exit the water after a solid 25 minute swim, a cop comes strolling up to me. "You OK?" he says. "Yeah, great!" "You the one swimming out there?" he asks. (D'oh) "Yup, doing some triathlon training." At this point, he relaxes, but then I see two more cops coming along behind him. One of them is like 6'6" and all muscle
mancrush
. First cop explains what's going on, and they just smile and explain that they got "some" calls and needed to check it out. They acknowledge that I'm kind of nuts, and I agree. First cop leaves while the other two walk back up to the hotel's pool area with me. One points out that there aren't any signs banning a river swim. But one of them notes that the water isn't very good and might have toxins, and the other cop says, "so does the air." We all :( All the people around the outdoor deck are looking at us with a 
. Good times. Nice swim. No jail time.
Looking forward to race reports!!!!
While in D.C. I had back to back days of 6 mile a.m. runs and 25-30 minute afternoon swims. But here's the good part:
The conference was at the Gaylord Conference Center about 6 miles south of downtown D.C. and right on the Potomac River. I actually stayed a few miles away (cheaper price allowed me to rent a van to get me and others from my university around for some sightseeing). On Thursday, I brought along swim gear and was able to slip into the Gaylord pool for 30 minutes. But they didn't have a lap lane, so the whole time I was dodging kids - good lunge-and-look training, but kind of a pain. I decided on Friday to take a dip in the Potomac. They had some boat docks and no-wake buoys, so I determined it was safe enough. The water wasn't the cleanest, and it had some current to fight, but hey, it's training and a new experience. The conference center and some nearby buildings overlooked the river, so I just had an inkling of what might happen. Sure enough ... As I exit the water after a solid 25 minute swim, a cop comes strolling up to me. "You OK?" he says. "Yeah, great!" "You the one swimming out there?" he asks. (D'oh) "Yup, doing some triathlon training." At this point, he relaxes, but then I see two more cops coming along behind him. One of them is like 6'6" and all muscle
mancrush. First cop explains what's going on, and they just smile and explain that they got "some" calls and needed to check it out. They acknowledge that I'm kind of nuts, and I agree. First cop leaves while the other two walk back up to the hotel's pool area with me. One points out that there aren't any signs banning a river swim. But one of them notes that the water isn't very good and might have toxins, and the other cop says, "so does the air." We all :( All the people around the outdoor deck are looking at us with a . Good times. Nice swim. No jail time.Looking forward to race reports!!!!
gruecd
Footballguy
Sure. For example, let's say my 10K pace is 6:30. Then 10K + 50 seconds = 7:20 pace for that interval.Can you unpack the "+ 50 seconds" part?Yeah, but it hurts so good!
Sand
Footballguy
Ooh - got it. Yeah, that workout would hurt. Looks like something coach Troy would break out (I love to hate him).Sure. For example, let's say my 10K pace is 6:30. Then 10K + 50 seconds = 7:20 pace for that interval.Can you unpack the "+ 50 seconds" part?Yeah, but it hurts so good!
gruecd
Footballguy
Late night last night, so I wasn't sure what to expect from today's long run. Got to sleep at 2:30, up around 9:00, and out the door around noon. Beautiful day for a run -- 60° and sunny. Didn't really know how far I was going to run. I knew I needed 12 miles to get to 45 for the week, so that was the least I wanted to run. Went out running 7:50-8:00 pace. Took my Gu around 7 miles and kept going past the point where I'd need to turn off to do 12. My Garmin decided to just stop at some point during my run, so I wasn't sure of the mileage, but I tried to guess based on my elapsed time and perceived pace. Ended up doing 16.2 miles, and felt great. Averaged about 7:50, but my last couple of miles were in the 7:30s.
I've got 10K races the next two weekends. I despise the distance, but I'm addicted to the adrenaline of race day, so I figured I'll give 'em a shot.
Still waiting for reports from this weekend's racers -- Meeka, 2Young, and BNB.
And tri-man, that story's f'ing hilarious!
I've got 10K races the next two weekends. I despise the distance, but I'm addicted to the adrenaline of race day, so I figured I'll give 'em a shot.
Still waiting for reports from this weekend's racers -- Meeka, 2Young, and BNB.
And tri-man, that story's f'ing hilarious!
gruecd
Footballguy
By the way, I might have DNF'ed at Madison, but I stuck around long enough to notice that this girl was yummy. (And she looked even better from behind!) I saw her in the starting corral, and I just kept on repeating her bib number over and over in my head while I was running so I wouldn't forget it!
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
My son (11) & I had a GREAT 2 days. In fact, I think it may have been the best 2 back to back EVER. When we picked up the packet, he immediately put on the race shirt and hasn't taken it off since. Only one negative, campground on a Saturday Night = LOUD, so there was very little sleep.
On to the report, for me, I killed it!!!! Finished 12th in my age group, but like always, the 40-45 crew was laden with horses. I was a bit disappointed in my overall time, but bumped in to a guy that I swim with that did the Oly and is a 6 time Ironman who told me it was one of the toughest Michigan course he has raced.
For the swim, the air temp was 46 degrees (this is NOT a typo) and the water temp was supposedly 67 (my ###). It was tough to breathe getting in, but luckily I swam about 200 meters yesterday so it wasn't a shock. I decided I was going to enter the wash to see how I have grown as a swimmer and it paid off. I was thrashed for the first 90 meters or so, but I spotted and hugged the buoys perfectly. I never broke from pace or freestyle and finished 9th in this leg for my group. I had a guy touching may damn feet for about ½ of the thing. I BOTCHED T1 (PSL, say I told you so, I chose to put on the socks. It wasn't the wet feet, it was putting one on side ways).
The bike should have gone better, but I still averaged 18.3 MPH. It was crazy hilly, but I thought I'd maintained 20+. Coming in the chute they were ordering us off our bikes and into the grass about 75 yards from the dismount. The Oly leader crashed bad, out cold endo'd on a tri bike and was bleeding. To make it worse, it happened right in front of my son less than 2 minutes before I came in. I am not ########, but this cost me time. 1, for the time to get off the bike and run in my bike shoes and 2, and more important, I had to go over to my son with tears in his eyes and give him a quick hug because he said he was "so scared something like that was going to happen to me". So, the 18.3 MPH was greater, but I would have still been 15th on the bike leg in my group, but it cost me overall.
Story and update on crash guy. First off, dude crushed the swim and was destroying the bike (and the event). I talked to the race director and he was saying the guy had like a 5-mile lead on the next biker. They announced at the event that after he got hauled off to the hospital in a full neck brace (and he left a massive blood stain on the pavement), he had a cat scan that came back negative and just needed a bunch of stitches.
Back to me. I got in and out of shoes, etc in 1:01 for T2. The run was listed as 3.4 miles of 1/3rd paved, 2/3rds trail. They forgot to add "with ### kicking hills. The socks did their job to keep me from cramping in my calves, but the tops of my thighs were flickering and I thought they were going to cramp. I decided to trust what I heard from you all and ran them out and IT WORKED. By about the end of the first ½ mile, they were gone (and I was running way too fast as I looked at the Garmin and it was at 6:21 MM). I finished averaging 7:55 MM for 10th in my age group.
With 2 weeks until my next one, I have a few things to work on. For the swim, I have to go harder. I was worried about burning up, so I took it a little slow, but wasn't even breathing heavy coming out of the water and have zero are fatigue. Not sure if I can ditch the socks, but it will save me time. Where I think I can gain the most is on the bike. I guy from one of the stores passed my and said "you need to come see me for a fit, you are riding way too low and losing power".
I absolutely loved the adventure of the whole thing. Camping out was VERY cool and allowed my to get it to transition right at 6am and get the rack spot at the front. IF I can get better at the bike I think I'll be darn good at this (this is only my 2nd tri) and I think I may just be able to do an Oly this year.
On to the report, for me, I killed it!!!! Finished 12th in my age group, but like always, the 40-45 crew was laden with horses. I was a bit disappointed in my overall time, but bumped in to a guy that I swim with that did the Oly and is a 6 time Ironman who told me it was one of the toughest Michigan course he has raced.
For the swim, the air temp was 46 degrees (this is NOT a typo) and the water temp was supposedly 67 (my ###). It was tough to breathe getting in, but luckily I swam about 200 meters yesterday so it wasn't a shock. I decided I was going to enter the wash to see how I have grown as a swimmer and it paid off. I was thrashed for the first 90 meters or so, but I spotted and hugged the buoys perfectly. I never broke from pace or freestyle and finished 9th in this leg for my group. I had a guy touching may damn feet for about ½ of the thing. I BOTCHED T1 (PSL, say I told you so, I chose to put on the socks. It wasn't the wet feet, it was putting one on side ways).
The bike should have gone better, but I still averaged 18.3 MPH. It was crazy hilly, but I thought I'd maintained 20+. Coming in the chute they were ordering us off our bikes and into the grass about 75 yards from the dismount. The Oly leader crashed bad, out cold endo'd on a tri bike and was bleeding. To make it worse, it happened right in front of my son less than 2 minutes before I came in. I am not ########, but this cost me time. 1, for the time to get off the bike and run in my bike shoes and 2, and more important, I had to go over to my son with tears in his eyes and give him a quick hug because he said he was "so scared something like that was going to happen to me". So, the 18.3 MPH was greater, but I would have still been 15th on the bike leg in my group, but it cost me overall.
Story and update on crash guy. First off, dude crushed the swim and was destroying the bike (and the event). I talked to the race director and he was saying the guy had like a 5-mile lead on the next biker. They announced at the event that after he got hauled off to the hospital in a full neck brace (and he left a massive blood stain on the pavement), he had a cat scan that came back negative and just needed a bunch of stitches.
Back to me. I got in and out of shoes, etc in 1:01 for T2. The run was listed as 3.4 miles of 1/3rd paved, 2/3rds trail. They forgot to add "with ### kicking hills. The socks did their job to keep me from cramping in my calves, but the tops of my thighs were flickering and I thought they were going to cramp. I decided to trust what I heard from you all and ran them out and IT WORKED. By about the end of the first ½ mile, they were gone (and I was running way too fast as I looked at the Garmin and it was at 6:21 MM). I finished averaging 7:55 MM for 10th in my age group.
With 2 weeks until my next one, I have a few things to work on. For the swim, I have to go harder. I was worried about burning up, so I took it a little slow, but wasn't even breathing heavy coming out of the water and have zero are fatigue. Not sure if I can ditch the socks, but it will save me time. Where I think I can gain the most is on the bike. I guy from one of the stores passed my and said "you need to come see me for a fit, you are riding way too low and losing power".
I absolutely loved the adventure of the whole thing. Camping out was VERY cool and allowed my to get it to transition right at 6am and get the rack spot at the front. IF I can get better at the bike I think I'll be darn good at this (this is only my 2nd tri) and I think I may just be able to do an Oly this year.
gruecd
Footballguy
That's awesome, 2Young. I'm very happy for you!
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gruecd
Footballguy
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
If it had gone the other way, I could see it going somewthing like this: "So whadda in for", tri-man "swimming in the Potomac" and then a whole bunch of "stay away from him, he is a CRAZY ###### ######" MAN I wish I had your stones for OW swimming. Very cool story. BTW, no fair if your plan was to swim in toxins in an attempt to grow a 3rd arm to be a better swimmer.Soooo good to catch up on all the news after a four-day conference in D.C.! Lot of good stuff going on ...Lehigh, sorry to hear about the set-back. Gruecd, we've talked, and you know I'm always available to help out.While in D.C. I had back to back days of 6 mile a.m. runs and 25-30 minute afternoon swims. But here's the good part:The conference was at the Gaylord Conference Center about 6 miles south of downtown D.C. and right on the Potomac River. I actually stayed a few miles away (cheaper price allowed me to rent a van to get me and others from my university around for some sightseeing). On Thursday, I brought along swim gear and was able to slip into the Gaylord pool for 30 minutes. But they didn't have a lap lane, so the whole time I was dodging kids - good lunge-and-look training, but kind of a pain. I decided on Friday to take a dip in the Potomac. They had some boat docks and no-wake buoys, so I determined it was safe enough. The water wasn't the cleanest, and it had some current to fight, but hey, it's training and a new experience. The conference center and some nearby buildings overlooked the river, so I just had an inkling of what might happen. Sure enough ... As I exit the water after a solid 25 minute swim, a cop comes strolling up to me. "You OK?" he says. "Yeah, great!" "You the one swimming out there?" he asks. (D'oh) "Yup, doing some triathlon training." At this point, he relaxes, but then I see two more cops coming along behind him. One of them is like 6'6" and all muscle
Race Report (times in bold)
Great race today, but it nearly kicked my butt. I was dog tired for the last 2 miles and was just hoping that my legs would not cramp up. I have never had leg cramps, but the felt like they might go today.
It was a beautiful day today in Minneapolis, so there were no worries about the weather.
Yesterday when I checked in I thought I would stop at the Pace Group table and I meet the Pacer for the 3:40 group that I decided to start the race with. She told me that she would be running 8:24s for the race. Holy cow that was not a pace I am used to running, but that was what I was going to try. In my first half last year I ran so much faster than my normal pace I was thinking maybe I could surprise myself again this year.
I started with the 3:40 group and actually found the pace to be slower than I wanted to run at the start. I ran away from the group and felt pretty good for the first 6 miles. At about 6.25 I got a stitch in my side. I have not had a stitch in my side for a long time. It was only mildly painful, but I think it was a sign that my body was not used to running at that pace. The stitch went away around mile 7 and things were OK for the next 3 miles of so. The last 3 miles were tough. My legs were feeling more unstable than I am used to and my feet were killing me. I walked through the mile 12 water stop because I just felt like I need some water. It was the only water stop where I took water. There is a pretty big hill that stands between marker 12 and the finish line, and I took another 20 second walk break close to the top of the hill. I was to the point where I felt like I might need to walk again when I spotted the 13 mile marker. At this point the crowd was pretty big and I could see the finish. I came in at 1:48 and change gun time. I got my medal and a cup of water and then headed down a small hill to where they had food tables set up. About halfway down the hill I almost puked. I had the watery mouth the usually signals a puke, but it did not happen. After grabbing some food and more liquid I started to feel better and wanted to watch my wife finish.
My chip time was 1:47:56. I am very happy with that, and hope to only build on that for the half I am running on Halloween. I think my body will get more used to running a bit faster, and I may start taking more water during the race in hopes that I hold up a bit better.
Great race today, but it nearly kicked my butt. I was dog tired for the last 2 miles and was just hoping that my legs would not cramp up. I have never had leg cramps, but the felt like they might go today.
It was a beautiful day today in Minneapolis, so there were no worries about the weather.
Yesterday when I checked in I thought I would stop at the Pace Group table and I meet the Pacer for the 3:40 group that I decided to start the race with. She told me that she would be running 8:24s for the race. Holy cow that was not a pace I am used to running, but that was what I was going to try. In my first half last year I ran so much faster than my normal pace I was thinking maybe I could surprise myself again this year.
I started with the 3:40 group and actually found the pace to be slower than I wanted to run at the start. I ran away from the group and felt pretty good for the first 6 miles. At about 6.25 I got a stitch in my side. I have not had a stitch in my side for a long time. It was only mildly painful, but I think it was a sign that my body was not used to running at that pace. The stitch went away around mile 7 and things were OK for the next 3 miles of so. The last 3 miles were tough. My legs were feeling more unstable than I am used to and my feet were killing me. I walked through the mile 12 water stop because I just felt like I need some water. It was the only water stop where I took water. There is a pretty big hill that stands between marker 12 and the finish line, and I took another 20 second walk break close to the top of the hill. I was to the point where I felt like I might need to walk again when I spotted the 13 mile marker. At this point the crowd was pretty big and I could see the finish. I came in at 1:48 and change gun time. I got my medal and a cup of water and then headed down a small hill to where they had food tables set up. About halfway down the hill I almost puked. I had the watery mouth the usually signals a puke, but it did not happen. After grabbing some food and more liquid I started to feel better and wanted to watch my wife finish.
My chip time was 1:47:56. I am very happy with that, and hope to only build on that for the half I am running on Halloween. I think my body will get more used to running a bit faster, and I may start taking more water during the race in hopes that I hold up a bit better.
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
You should be happy with that, that was a great race. Way to push it.
For only a second tri I am impressed. Great race. Has your son recovered from his eye-witness view of the crash?
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
Of my kids, he is certainly the more sensitive of the two. When they announced that guy was okay he said to me "oooh thats good Dad" and then he had to look at the blood on the pavement on the way out. Poor kid, I could have never imagined having him there alone, that'd he see that, but he recovered quick (it didn't hurt that I snuck him a few cookies and a blow pop from the post race snacks. It was kind of cool, I guess. The guy's team had a tent at the event as he was associated with a major bike shop. They had the guys bike hanging in the top of the tent (my son caught this as well). I can't even imagine the cost of the bike and it was in need of a few bucks of repairs.
I am not a fan of running in pain, but the results speak for themselves. I beat my time from last year by a little more than 8 and a half minutes.Nice job, meeka. Way to HTFU!
wraith5
Footballguy
Congrats to 2Y2B and Meeka on great races!!
I went out for a ride this afternoon and ended up doing 30.75 miles, which is the longest ride I've ever done. I managed to stay north of 17.5 mph for the first 18 miles but after that I was only at about 15.5. I ride mostly paved trails and subdivision-type roads so there aren't a lot of long, straight & uninterrupted stretches. I'd love to find a stretch of road where I can ride comfortably and see what my speed would be like without hitting the brakes frequently.
My back was absolutely killing me by the last 5 miles or so. I'm assuming that's mostly about poor form on the bike. After yesterday's run & today's bike my legs are now trashed. Looking forward to a rest day tomorrow.
I went out for a ride this afternoon and ended up doing 30.75 miles, which is the longest ride I've ever done. I managed to stay north of 17.5 mph for the first 18 miles but after that I was only at about 15.5. I ride mostly paved trails and subdivision-type roads so there aren't a lot of long, straight & uninterrupted stretches. I'd love to find a stretch of road where I can ride comfortably and see what my speed would be like without hitting the brakes frequently.
My back was absolutely killing me by the last 5 miles or so. I'm assuming that's mostly about poor form on the bike. After yesterday's run & today's bike my legs are now trashed. Looking forward to a rest day tomorrow.
wraith5
Footballguy
Congrats on the babybentley said:
DolphinsPhan
Footballguy
Today is the official start of my Chicago marathon training program!!! Hal Higdon Novice 2 if anyone cares.
Day 1 - rest
Day 1 - rest
gruecd
Footballguy
Hey, DolphinsPhan. I'm doing Chicago, too, but I start training next week Monday. You might wanna re-check your dates. IIRC, most Higdon programs are 18-week programs, which would mean you'd also start next Monday. Just tryin to help.Today is the official start of my Chicago marathon training program!!! Hal Higdon Novice 2 if anyone cares.
Day 1 - rest
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IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Great race reports.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Wraith, since you're up that way, have you checked out the Busse Woods trails east of Woodfield Mall? The main loop is 7.7 miles with the only street crossing being at Higgins next to I-294. It crosses some forest preserve roads, has some twists and turns, and gets other bike/run traffic, but it's great for training at a steady speed (plus some rolling terrain). I use it for my benchmark pacing, where after a few years I can compare where I'm at to previous years (rather than trying to extrapolate a mph time from the course, although you could certainly pick some 1 or 2 mile stretches to get a good feel of actual mph).-----
I did a solid 12 mile run yesterday, then 45 minutes on the bike later on. I'm under three weeks til my big race, so I'll start to lay off the distance a bit and add in a bit more rest. Looking forward to Saturday's 8K with Wraith! I'll actually bring my bike along and stop at the above course for some bike training after the race.
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GREAT reports from 2Young and Meeka. Meeka, what a great improvement on your time! 2Young, that's great progress for being new to tri's. Congrats!
(My son came along to my first-race-back in '98 after a ten-year layoff. I was one of the last in my age group out of the water (not enough strength training), and he was quite traumatized ...I, too, had to take some time to console him. Unfortunately, that soured him on the sport and viewing any more races. Sounds like your son is handling things OK.)
Bagged the races on Friday as USA Cylcing and the promoter pissed me off. Wasn't going to pay $18 to race a 12 min crit if they weren't going to let me into the dash for cash CAT 1/2 event. Interestingly enough the women and friends of the promoter go into whatever event they wanted too. Heck, they evened dinged my girlfriend's kid (11) for a full price single day license to do a 3 mile race.
Got in a 78 miler on Saturday morning with 6000 ft of climbing. 17.5 average. Next event is a 10 TT at Lowes Speedway Wed nite. Thursday nite I'm off to Beech Mt for 3 days training in the high country. Got a buddy coming in from PA to ride one day and possibly some other friends showing up.
Got in a 78 miler on Saturday morning with 6000 ft of climbing. 17.5 average. Next event is a 10 TT at Lowes Speedway Wed nite. Thursday nite I'm off to Beech Mt for 3 days training in the high country. Got a buddy coming in from PA to ride one day and possibly some other friends showing up.
DolphinsPhan
Footballguy
Thanks. Yeah I moved it up a week b/c I will be on a cruise in August and don't plan on running 30 miles that week. Didn't want to try and cram the extra miles in b/c I know I will injure myself if I try that.Hey, DolphinsPhan. I'm doing Chicago, too, but I start training next week Monday. You might wanna re-check your dates. IIRC, most Higdon programs are 18-week programs, which would mean you'd also start next Monday. Just tryin to help.Today is the official start of my Chicago marathon training program!!! Hal Higdon Novice 2 if anyone cares.
Day 1 - rest
Bankerguy
Footballguy
pigskinliquors
Dr. Parrothead
Not bad, but we expect better!
AWESOME, AWESOME race report!! Did you try the Rolaids?? What a thrill to have your son there. What type of bike and set-up are you riding? I can't imagine trying to put on OxySox during a tri. I struggle to put them on in the morning for runs; real tough to do after a swim.
If you're not in pain, you are not "running" a race; you are jogging itI am not a fan of running in pain, but the results speak for themselves. I beat my time from last year by a little more than 8 and a half minutes.Nice job, meeka. Way to HTFU!
Great race meeka!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!__________________________________My Update:
Woke up for my Sunday run a bit later than expected as we had a Looooong nite Saturday. The temp was already 84, with 89% humidity = UGH! I decided to shoot for 8 miles instead of 10, and to alter the pace. My legs were shot at mile 6 and I slowed down an extra :30 on the 7th mile; then ran a solid final mile, right on pace.
During this run, I went by a fairly large pond that is in a future phase of our development, and got a bit giddy (thinking I'd have a place for open water swims!). I asked one of friends at the development who's a Game Warden, and highly advised against it, as there are most likely hundreds of water moccasins living in it
I think I'll stick to the Lake I typically drive to, and pools; if Tri-Man ever comes out for a visit/race, I'll have him test it out.
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gruecd
Footballguy
gruecd
Footballguy
Hey, everybody. Don't forget that Wednesday, June 3, is National Running Day. Make sure you go for a run, and encourage your friends/colleagues to do the same!
tri-man 47
Footballguy
2Young; others - comments on lace locks? I've recently seen an ad for Yankz, but there's also Lock Laces and others, I'm sure.
liquors, now that I'm probably radioactive, all you'd need to do is lower me into the lake and all the critters would be immediately fried.
liquors, now that I'm probably radioactive, all you'd need to do is lower me into the lake and all the critters would be immediately fried.
pigskinliquors
Dr. Parrothead
Lock Laces are FAR superior = my favorite. Yankz are more difficult to set-up, MUCH more difficult to adjust, and are not as comfortable. I have Lock Laces on everyone's shoes in our house (wife, 4 and 7 year olds). RE: swimming in our pond. Prior to you being radioactive, I'm pretty sure the snakes wouldn't have a chance against you!
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
I didn't try the Rolaids, but I did do the sports beans before the race (practiced this on a few bricks and liked the results) and did HEED on the ride. I think I will keep the beans in my pre-race routine. I have a road bike, a Fuji Roubaix and I am a bit embarassed to admit I have no idea what you mean by set up. I've just switched to clips and learned in race by getting yelled at that my seat is too low. I forgot to move it up a bit when I went to the clips. I'd love a tri bike and was freaked out a bit when I hear the whirring of that closed rear wheel coming up on and passing me. But I can't justify the cost, yet. I used the CW-X socks. I swear these things are a miracle. My calves felt great and feel great today and that was after a butt kicker of a trail run. I just grabbed the one wrong during transition, the other one went on like a dream. I am meeting a whole bunch of people to do a bike/run brick (and maybe a swim) on Sunday. Maybe I'll try it compression sock free.pigskinliquors said:
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
I hadn't even thought about it. The eBay cheapy speed laces I bought worked GREAT and felt even better. I guy I know (who is a 20 year tri vet) cautioned me about the ones I bought as he thought they'd gather in the middle of the shoe. He said I should have bought they type with the eyelets that snap in to the where the lace goes through. Coming out of the flat platformed bike shoes, my running shoes felt really good and the speed button made getting in them a breeze. I did not slip in them at all in rough terrain. I looked up Lock Laces & Yankz and the eBay ones from Hong Kong look very similar at a much lower price.pigskinliquors said:
Most people I know use the compression socks on the drive to the event and afterwards. You differently need to ditch them for anything shorter than a 1/2.
DolphinsPhan
Footballguy
back from my morning 3 miler. 1st run of marathon training! 5am is early...
had the Gu Chomps as my breakfast. had the cran apple (with water). quick review...
1. 4 per serving compared to the 3 shot blocks
2. only 90 calories compared to 100 for shot blocks
3. much easier to chew than shot blocks
4. didn't stick to my teeth like shot blocks
can't really say much as to long term effectiveness since I was only out for 3 miles. curious to see how they fare when I am out for long runs although I still think the gels are easier to manage while running than the blocks.
I've got the blueberry pompegranate ones as well which I will try next. so far shot block cran razz flavor > Gu cran apple
had the Gu Chomps as my breakfast. had the cran apple (with water). quick review...
1. 4 per serving compared to the 3 shot blocks
2. only 90 calories compared to 100 for shot blocks
3. much easier to chew than shot blocks
4. didn't stick to my teeth like shot blocks
can't really say much as to long term effectiveness since I was only out for 3 miles. curious to see how they fare when I am out for long runs although I still think the gels are easier to manage while running than the blocks.
I've got the blueberry pompegranate ones as well which I will try next. so far shot block cran razz flavor > Gu cran apple
wraith5
Footballguy
On a related note, I had a couple of Clif Shots on my recent runs - and they are DISGUSTING. :X Congrats on kicking off your training, DP!!back from my morning 3 miler. 1st run of marathon training! 5am is early...
had the Gu Chomps as my breakfast. had the cran apple (with water). quick review...
1. 4 per serving compared to the 3 shot blocks
2. only 90 calories compared to 100 for shot blocks
3. much easier to chew than shot blocks
4. didn't stick to my teeth like shot blocks
pigskinliquors
Dr. Parrothead
For training = ZERO reason not to use the CW-X's; but for races I'd drop them. Regarding set-up; I was just trying to figure out how aero you were. With your seat too low, and no aero-bars, you were most likely like a sail heading into the wind. Some of the keys to getting aero (less sail-like), are: getting your head low, seat/butt forward, arms/shoulders narrow, and back flat. Like this. When riding behind the "right" female in this position, the view is astounding.
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gruecd
Footballguy
gruecd
Footballguy
Just finished my first real speedwork in a while. Started with a 1-mile warmup, then 4 sets of 5 minutes each at 6:25 pace with 2-1/2 minute jogs in between. Finished with a mile cooldown.
Last one hurt a little bit, but it's supposed to. Actually kinda looking forward to Sunday's 10K. I don't race many 10K's, so my 3-year-old PR isn't very impressive (43:21). Not really a question of whether or not I'll beat it, just by how much.
Last one hurt a little bit, but it's supposed to. Actually kinda looking forward to Sunday's 10K. I don't race many 10K's, so my 3-year-old PR isn't very impressive (43:21). Not really a question of whether or not I'll beat it, just by how much.
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
You have gift for finding just the right links.No doubt, I am a sail. Now that I know my seat is too low (even though I have never felt more comfortable in the saddle), do I move it a 1/2 inch each ride to see how things go? I thought I'd done a decent job of fitting my self. A hate even dropping down to the lower part of my bars as I can't see crap when I am over like that. I need to get over this. I never stopped pumping the enitre 12.4 miles, so I have the stamina, I just have to position better for more speed and more aero.
By the way, I got ZERO sympathy for my idea of a Mini Me Division in running events, but you all have to admit, at 5'6" I am at a HUGE disadvantage in these tri events. I swear, every age division winner for the males were 6'4" + and the girls were dang tall too. Heck, a Clyde was second overall in the Olympic. Its just not fair Waaahahahhahah!!!!
gruecd
Footballguy
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
Thanks for supporting my cause.
C'mon Clyde, you know deck is stacked against me in the water and on the bike. You'll notice that the Kenyans are not exactly dominating the pool (or the velodrome (did I come close to spelling this right)) at the Olympics.I am in! :( I registered tonight. This will be marathon #1 for me. I already know that I will be running this baby just to finish. I will work on bettering my time in the marathons to come. DolphinsPhan you have an training buddy. Crap I missed my first training run tonight. Oh well. I was planning on taking 2 days off after the half, so I will jump in for 3 miles tomorrow.
wraith5
Footballguy
I am in!
Welcome to the Sith Brotherhood!!
DolphinsPhan
Footballguy
awesome. Hal is your freind. best of luck during training. we can commiserate together!set my alarm for 4:30 am to get up and do my 5 miles. of course I was awoken at 4am to the sounds of thunder and lightening so I went back to bed. I'll do 5 tonight. thwarted by weather on my 2nd run...bummer.I am in! :( I registered tonight. This will be marathon #1 for me. I already know that I will be running this baby just to finish. I will work on bettering my time in the marathons to come. DolphinsPhan you have an training buddy. Crap I missed my first training run tonight. Oh well. I was planning on taking 2 days off after the half, so I will jump in for 3 miles tomorrow.
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