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Ummm, yeah. I added a few miles here and there, butOne more question, anyone you know have good success with the 18/55 plan?
Ummm, yeah. I added a few miles here and there, butOne more question, anyone you know have good success with the 18/55 plan?
I have had quite a few moments this week of "man, that could have been me" and I can't seem to shake it (and I am typically not like this). A kid who used to work for me and his wife ran the relay. His wife saw 2 of three being administered CPR and from what he told me, she hasn't been able to sleep all week. Another woman I know qualified for Boston for the first time and is vowing no never run anything longer than a 10K ever again because she saw the same thing.Trying to stay positive, I have had a decent week. I swam 1,250 yards on Monday and lucked in to some free private lessons while swimming 2,500 yards on Wednesday (which inculded 2,000 straight as a 1/2 IM swim simulation). A guy that swims on the same nights as me has done multiple Ironmans and is recovering from an injury. I see this guy grabbing hardware at just about every Tri I do. He is coaching a few other triathletes and has volunteered to help me. Right off the bat he noticed something I've always suspected. I know I pull stronger on my right side. I've always thought it was just because I am very much right hand dominant in everything I do. What he is seeing is that I am bringing my head up early to breathe on my right side. This is causing me to have to shorten the reach of my left arm. He'll be working with me more next week. Cool part, to me, is that I am self taught in the water basically off of YouTube videos. He was highly complementary off my right hand entry, extension & pull and the limited kick and leg positioning. Got the bike on the trainer last night and struggled though 15 miles. I haven't rode in a month and it showed. A couple other random things. I looked through some of the Sand links. I am that willy, nilly tri runner I think. It is what I focus on the least because it is what I feel I do best. And, I can't run 4 days a week, let alone 6. I am a bag of bones, with a laundry list of prior sports injuries and I hurt when I run too much. I can do 2 days running, 2 riding and 2 swimming, but not 6 of the same anything.Got a new bike tool today. I've wanted a CO2 cartrage tire pump. I stopped in a bike shop today and found one that also is a multi-tool. It has a chain tool attachment along with every other allen youd need and it will fit in my pouch with my tire wrenches and a spare tube.Tomorrow, I think I am going to do a simulated trail run. My next race is a 4.8 mile ### kicker of a trail run on 11/6.pigskinliquors said:2Young: I am still over the results of the marathon. My thoughts/prayers go out to each of the families.
Man, that kind of thing can really bother you when it hits so close to home. I know just reading about it made me extra alert to my body during my runs, I cannot imagine what being there when it happened is like. How do you simulate a trail run?I have had quite a few moments this week of "man, that could have been me" and I can't seem to shake it (and I am typically not like this). A kid who used to work for me and his wife ran the relay. His wife saw 2 of three being administered CPR and from what he told me, she hasn't been able to sleep all week. Another woman I know qualified for Boston for the first time and is vowing no never run anything longer than a 10K ever again because she saw the same thing.Tomorrow, I think I am going to do a simulated trail run. My next race is a 4.8 mile ### kicker of a trail run on 11/6.pigskinliquors said:2Young: I am still over the results of the marathon. My thoughts/prayers go out to each of the families.
Give it a week or so, and it'll be dark at 6:15Goring for 8+ tomorrow. Planning on getting a good nights sleep and start before 7am, about 40 minutes before sunup. I got up to fix dinner at 7:15 and noticed that it was completely dark outside, how depressing.
I am about 45 minutes to an hour from any good trails, but Lake St Clair is less than a mile from home and its all grass for a few miles along the lake. On the way back, there is a park with a sled hill that I can run a few times up and down and around the soccer field. To get to the lake I can cut through a high school soccer field and then run down a street with a grass island in the middle. All in all, I can run about a 10K out and back with less than a 1/2 mile on pavement. Should be rainy and about 50ish, perfect dirt conditions.How do you simulate a trail run?
I will do that eventually. I hope that I am looking as good and fit as you are when I get to your age.Darrin, it'd be good to do occasional workouts where you go to that big hill and just work it - push up, then walk/jog back down. Rinse; repeat.
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Marathon pics - http://www.backprint.com/view_user_event.a...;S=230&PWD=
I know, I know ...relax the arms. And I really did smile and enjoy a lot of the time out there, pics notwithstanding.
Cool pics, tri-man. Thanks for posting. I've been meaning to post mine from Chicago, too. Apparently I can't link directly to them, but go to this page, choose "Chicago Marathon 2009" from the drop-down box, and enter my last name (Gruett) and bib number (589). Sheesh.Marathon pics - http://www.backprint.com/view_user_event.a...;S=230&PWD=
I know, I know ...relax the arms. And I really did smile and enjoy a lot of the time out there, pics notwithstanding.
Thanks for sharing the pics - even if they didn't exactly make it easy...lolWas out at 7 this am for an easy 5 1/2 in what I consider a warm (but not uncomfortably so) temp of 70 One week tomorrow is the Daytona Half and temp at start time is now supposed to be 65.Cool pics, tri-man. Thanks for posting. I've been meaning to post mine from Chicago, too. Apparently I can't link directly to them, but go to this page, choose "Chicago Marathon 2009" from the drop-down box, and enter my last name (Gruett) and bib number (589). Sheesh.Marathon pics - http://www.backprint.com/view_user_event.a...;S=230&PWD=
I know, I know ...relax the arms. And I really did smile and enjoy a lot of the time out there, pics notwithstanding.
Gonna head out this aft for an easy 11-12 miles with a buddy. Temps are supposed to warm up into the mid-40s, and I think we'll even see a little sun. Should be an awesome fall run!!
Life is Hard for Kenyan Size White Guys - Support the Need for a Mini Me Division Here are my Detroit Photos (1st dude is not me, too tall & wearing the race shirt - BOO).Cool pics, tri-man. Thanks for posting. I've been meaning to post mine from Chicago, too. Apparently I can't link directly to them, but go to this page, choose "Chicago Marathon 2009" from the drop-down box, and enter my last name (Gruett) and bib number (589). Sheesh.Marathon pics - http://www.backprint.com/view_user_event.a...;S=230&PWD=
I know, I know ...relax the arms. And I really did smile and enjoy a lot of the time out there, pics notwithstanding.
Gonna head out this aft for an easy 11-12 miles with a buddy. Temps are supposed to warm up into the mid-40s, and I think we'll even see a little sun. Should be an awesome fall run!!
You look pretty hot in that turquoise shirt in the first 4 photos not of the guy in the race shirt. For your name here I never would have though you had such long hair. Seriously, how could they not get a picture of your finish where you can read the clock?Life is Hard for Kenyan Size White Guys - Support the Need for a Mini Me Division Here are my Detroit Photos (1st dude is not me, too tall & wearing the race shirt - BOO).Cool pics, tri-man. Thanks for posting. I've been meaning to post mine from Chicago, too. Apparently I can't link directly to them, but go to this page, choose "Chicago Marathon 2009" from the drop-down box, and enter my last name (Gruett) and bib number (589). Sheesh.Marathon pics - http://www.backprint.com/view_user_event.a...;S=230&PWD=
I know, I know ...relax the arms. And I really did smile and enjoy a lot of the time out there, pics notwithstanding.
Gonna head out this aft for an easy 11-12 miles with a buddy. Temps are supposed to warm up into the mid-40s, and I think we'll even see a little sun. Should be an awesome fall run!!
I always - always - run with a Camelbak. Catalyst - 0.8 liter external fill waist pack. This is my standard for anything under 8 miles. I have a velcro pocket (from an Asics belt) that I put on the front to hold my iPhone or iPod.prosopis said:I have a quick question. Today on my 6 miles I wore my camel back. I know this was designed more for hiking then running. I had a lot of chafing issues and my shirt kept climbing up my back. I was constantly pulling my shirt back down. I am pretty sure I could have done this 6 miles without water but I am adverse to doing that. I have done a lot of desert hiking and I never want to be without water. It is just ingrained in me that I have to have water with me. Anyway I want to know what kind of fuel belt you guys would recommend. I eventually want to be running marathon distances so I want to start getting used to something now. I dont think I will run with this camel back thing again unless it is more of a trail/hiking situation. I think they do make camel backs designed for runners and maybe that is the route to go.
Cost is an issue for me. I am looking for cheap.
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I'm sure if I was taller they would have got my time in the shot.Darrinll40 said:You look pretty hot in that turquoise shirt in the first 4 photos not of the guy in the race shirt. For your name here I never would have though you had such long hair. Seriously, how could they not get a picture of your finish where you can read the clock?2Young2BBald said:Life is Hard for Kenyan Size White Guys - Support the Need for a Mini Me Division Here are my Detroit Photos (1st dude is not me, too tall & wearing the race shirt - BOO).gruecd said:Cool pics, tri-man. Thanks for posting. I've been meaning to post mine from Chicago, too. Apparently I can't link directly to them, but go to this page, choose "Chicago Marathon 2009" from the drop-down box, and enter my last name (Gruett) and bib number (589). Sheesh.tri-man 47 said:Marathon pics - http://www.backprint.com/view_user_event.a...;S=230&PWD=
I know, I know ...relax the arms. And I really did smile and enjoy a lot of the time out there, pics notwithstanding.
Gonna head out this aft for an easy 11-12 miles with a buddy. Temps are supposed to warm up into the mid-40s, and I think we'll even see a little sun. Should be an awesome fall run!!
Thanks for the reply. I will look into those models. The one I am using now is to big and drives me nuts.Maybe we can meet for a beer when you are in Tucson. I am thinking of volunteering for the marathon since I wont be running in it.I always - always - run with a Camelbak. Catalyst - 0.8 liter external fill waist pack. This is my standard for anything under 8 miles. I have a velcro pocket (from an Asics belt) that I put on the front to hold my iPhone or iPod.prosopis said:I have a quick question. Today on my 6 miles I wore my camel back. I know this was designed more for hiking then running. I had a lot of chafing issues and my shirt kept climbing up my back. I was constantly pulling my shirt back down. I am pretty sure I could have done this 6 miles without water but I am adverse to doing that. I have done a lot of desert hiking and I never want to be without water. It is just ingrained in me that I have to have water with me. Anyway I want to know what kind of fuel belt you guys would recommend. I eventually want to be running marathon distances so I want to start getting used to something now. I dont think I will run with this camel back thing again unless it is more of a trail/hiking situation. I think they do make camel backs designed for runners and maybe that is the route to go.
Cost is an issue for me. I am looking for cheap.
Thanks
Flashflo - 1.3 liter external fill (with a fold-down cover) waist pack. I love this Camelbak (its a few years old, so it's different than the model they have out now). It has a pocket for my iPhone/iPod, inhaler, etc. inside the fold-down reservoir cover and has two web holster pockets that can hold a couple of gels each on either side of the main compartment.
For both of these waist packs, I tuck my shirt into my shorts to avoid any possible chaffing issues. I really don't get much bounce except from the Flashflo when it's completely filled (and even then it has two cinch straps that work pretty well).
Lobo - 3 liter low-profile backpack. I break this out for 13+ mile runs in the heat (when I need to constantly drink) or longer runs in the cooler weather. I have to constantly mess with the shoulder and chest strap while I run because they loosen - a major drag for an otherwise very nice little running backpack.
As a side note, I own 3 other Camelbak backpacks too for biking or hiking. There's a model out now called the Alterra that I may get at some point to replace my Catalyst - external 0.8 fill and the side pockets.
For Tucson I'm really leaning towards using the Flashflo and mixing in taking water at some of the hydration stations to make up for the limited carrying capacity.
Nice work, Darrin. You'll do fine.This morning, while still a bit off from my run, I did a damn stupid thing. I signed up and paid for the Daytona Beach Half Marathon next Sunday. My only goal is ti beat 3 hours. I figure that I can run at least 9 miles then walk/run (probably walk lol) my way to the finish.
Most excellent!! You'll do great!This morning, while still a bit off from my run, I did a damn stupid thing. I signed up and paid for the Daytona Beach Half Marathon next Sunday. My only goal is ti beat 3 hours. I figure that I can run at least 9 miles then walk/run (probably walk lol) my way to the finish.
The Galloway Run/Walk plan has never gained any traction here, but I'll pitch it again. When I trained for the marathon in the spring, this is what I used. The thought behind is that short breaks all race long are far better for the body then your plan of pushing the body, possibly too far, by running until you can't run any more and then walking. It also had a mental benefit that may be a little difficult to explain. The thought of a 20 mile training run, to me, was daunting. But 25 to 30 reps of 7 minutes running, with a 1 minute walk didn't seem as bad. I tried several combinations of the run walk and settled on 7/1 (7 minutes running, 1 minute walking). 5/1 was too little time running before a break and 10/1 was too long. Most of the Galloway stuff propots that you can run you fastest times by doing the program and can come out of it with less chance of injury and fatigue.Give it a whirl on your next run and see if it will allow you to have a more successful ad enjoyable 1/2. I'd bet you could go sub 2:30 with out over exerting yourself.This morning, while still a bit off from my run, I did a damn stupid thing. I signed up and paid for the Daytona Beach Half Marathon next Sunday. My only goal is ti beat 3 hours. I figure that I can run at least 9 miles then walk/run (probably walk lol) my way to the finish.
I've never been a big fan of the whole "Gallowalking" thing, but I have to agree with 2Young that it might be a good fit for what you're trying to do with the half. Give it a shot.The Galloway Run/Walk plan has never gained any traction here, but I'll pitch it again. When I trained for the marathon in the spring, this is what I used. The thought behind is that short breaks all race long are far better for the body then your plan of pushing the body, possibly too far, by running until you can't run any more and then walking. It also had a mental benefit that may be a little difficult to explain. The thought of a 20 mile training run, to me, was daunting. But 25 to 30 reps of 7 minutes running, with a 1 minute walk didn't seem as bad. I tried several combinations of the run walk and settled on 7/1 (7 minutes running, 1 minute walking). 5/1 was too little time running before a break and 10/1 was too long. Most of the Galloway stuff propots that you can run you fastest times by doing the program and can come out of it with less chance of injury and fatigue.Give it a whirl on your next run and see if it will allow you to have a more successful ad enjoyable 1/2. I'd bet you could go sub 2:30 with out over exerting yourself.This morning, while still a bit off from my run, I did a damn stupid thing. I signed up and paid for the Daytona Beach Half Marathon next Sunday. My only goal is ti beat 3 hours. I figure that I can run at least 9 miles then walk/run (probably walk lol) my way to the finish.
What about it don't you like? I am thinking this may have to be the method I use to get the 1/2 marathon leg done for next year's HIM. I've tried to just run slower, but it doesn't seem to work for me. I know Tri-Man has advised to just walk the water stops, but I think the structure of an on/off plan will work better.What is the plan for NYC for you? Are you going to rock the GO PACK GO garb, or are you breaking out something new? Do you know if they'll have a webcast similar to Chicago? As I recall, last year was carried live on TV, but only because it was also an Olympic Qualifier, right?I've never been a big fan of the whole "Gallowalking" thing, but I have to agree with 2Young that it might be a good fit for what you're trying to do with the half. Give it a shot.
I tried that once, actually attended a Galloway talk 2 years ago in Daytona Beach. My problem is that when I stop running it is hard to make myself start again. I have been thinking about it but I will probably run 3 miles, walk a quarter or half. I just can't stop running every 7 minute. Hell t takes me about half an hour before I even find a good rhythm.The Galloway Run/Walk plan has never gained any traction here, but I'll pitch it again. When I trained for the marathon in the spring, this is what I used. The thought behind is that short breaks all race long are far better for the body then your plan of pushing the body, possibly too far, by running until you can't run any more and then walking. It also had a mental benefit that may be a little difficult to explain. The thought of a 20 mile training run, to me, was daunting. But 25 to 30 reps of 7 minutes running, with a 1 minute walk didn't seem as bad. I tried several combinations of the run walk and settled on 7/1 (7 minutes running, 1 minute walking). 5/1 was too little time running before a break and 10/1 was too long. Most of the Galloway stuff propots that you can run you fastest times by doing the program and can come out of it with less chance of injury and fatigue.Give it a whirl on your next run and see if it will allow you to have a more successful ad enjoyable 1/2. I'd bet you could go sub 2:30 with out over exerting yourself.This morning, while still a bit off from my run, I did a damn stupid thing. I signed up and paid for the Daytona Beach Half Marathon next Sunday. My only goal is ti beat 3 hours. I figure that I can run at least 9 miles then walk/run (probably walk lol) my way to the finish.
Perhaps you should have dropped into an ice bath. Good job on gutting it out, though.And Darrin - you go, boy!!! The race environment will provide a boost, so go in positive ... and avoid the catfish.Paying for my run now. 4:30 am and I haven't slept much - my legs are a ball of soreness. Perhaps I should have cut it short.
If I only had that much ice on hand. I did take a cold shower, but I guess I will have to step that up.Good news is I woke up feeling much, much better. No major issues - was worried my shin splint would come back or have sore feet, etc. Legs feel pretty good.More good news - weight is now sitting at 165. Hope I can keep it there.tri-man 47 said:Perhaps you should have dropped into an ice bath. Good job on gutting it out, though.Paying for my run now. 4:30 am and I haven't slept much - my legs are a ball of soreness. Perhaps I should have cut it short.
I don't know. I just don't think the whole start/stop thing is something that would work for me. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. The plan for NYC is to not have a plan. Honestly, not sure what I'm wearing yet, and I'm not sure what's being offered in terms of media coverage, either. I know that a PR isn't realistic so soon after Chicago, and I've already got the BQ's locked up, so I'm taking a very "non-2Y2BB" approach to this race. Realistically, I'm guessing I'll run somewhere between 3:15-3:30, but who knows??What about it don't you like? I am thinking this may have to be the method I use to get the 1/2 marathon leg done for next year's HIM. I've tried to just run slower, but it doesn't seem to work for me. I know Tri-Man has advised to just walk the water stops, but I think the structure of an on/off plan will work better.What is the plan for NYC for you? Are you going to rock the GO PACK GO garb, or are you breaking out something new? Do you know if they'll have a webcast similar to Chicago? As I recall, last year was carried live on TV, but only because it was also an Olympic Qualifier, right?
I'm with gruecd on the Galloway thing. I'm sure it works for some people but walking when I can run makes no sense to me and I would actually find it very demoralizing to start walking after running for just a short time.I don't know. I just don't think the whole start/stop thing is something that would work for me. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.What about it don't you like? I am thinking this may have to be the method I use to get the 1/2 marathon leg done for next year's HIM. I've tried to just run slower, but it doesn't seem to work for me. I know Tri-Man has advised to just walk the water stops, but I think the structure of an on/off plan will work better.What is the plan for NYC for you? Are you going to rock the GO PACK GO garb, or are you breaking out something new? Do you know if they'll have a webcast similar to Chicago? As I recall, last year was carried live on TV, but only because it was also an Olympic Qualifier, right?
So you're one of those guys that breeze past me in a 5K pushing their kid in a stroller while I am breathing my guts out and my heart rate is 170Any bike & running trailer suggestions for kids? something along the lines of this?
http://www.amazon.com/Schwinn-Double-Trail...ref=pd_sbs_sg_5
LOL funny you say that. First off no I am not. Secondly, my first 5k ever (this year) I was running behind a guy doing exactly that... then he put it in over drive and finished way before me.So you're one of those guys that breeze past me in a 5K pushing their kid in a stroller while I am breathing my guts out and my heart rate is 170Any bike & running trailer suggestions for kids? something along the lines of this?
http://www.amazon.com/Schwinn-Double-Trail...ref=pd_sbs_sg_5
How old?I just bought one of these. My boy is 4.Dexter said:Any bike & running trailer suggestions for kids? something along the lines of this?
http://www.amazon.com/Schwinn-Double-Trail...ref=pd_sbs_sg_5
Right now he's -3 monthsETA: please see my example.How old?I just bought one of these. My boy is 4.Dexter said:Any bike & running trailer suggestions for kids? something along the lines of this?
http://www.amazon.com/Schwinn-Double-Trail...ref=pd_sbs_sg_5
What - you mean he can't pedal yet?Right now he's -3 monthsETA: please see my example.How old?I just bought one of these. My boy is 4.Dexter said:Any bike & running trailer suggestions for kids? something along the lines of this?
http://www.amazon.com/Schwinn-Double-Trail...ref=pd_sbs_sg_5
Just a personal anecdote. In 2007, I did the Rockstar series, running 3 fulls and 2 halfs from January to October. There were five weeks between the 2nd and 3rd fulls in the spring, and six weeks between the halfs in the fall. In each pairing, I treated the first race as a training race (e.g. the first full was the "20miler" I would have run for the second full), then tapered to the second race. In each pairing, I ended up PRing the second race. Take a look at your training schedule for AZ. LV may fall on a day for a long run. Your mileage may vary.Happy Birthday to me, yesterday. As it was my 45th, I received a gift of 10minutes towards a BQ time. lolAny thoughts on how much time is needed after a 1/2 marathon before you can/should run another? I'm sure it really depends on the person, but I'm thinking of trying to do the LV RnR on Dec 6 and not even thinking of time just finishing and then the AZ RnR on Jan 17. I really think I'll be ready for the AZ race, but LV might be pushing it. I've just had an itch to head to Vegas and thought that it would be cool to run down the strip.
I thought that you said that you were doing 70 per week. How much did you add and how close were you to the 18/70 plan?Ummm, yeah. I added a few miles here and there, butOne more question, anyone you know have good success with the 18/55 plan?
Congratulations. I always knew I was doing well when I could breathe through my nose without trouble.Did my first 14 miler on Sunday morning. Avg. pace was 9:31 -- Took it nice and slow and really cruised along nicely. The most surprising part was that I was able to just breathe through my nose through most of the run so I'm comfortably running at a nice easy heart rate. That's the longest run I've ever done.
That's pretty much my plan. I'm adding a mile each weekend (did 8 last Saturday) and I'll have a 12 miler in on the Saturday before Thanksgiving. On Thanksgiving, I'm doing a 10 miler and then LV is 10 days after that. So prior to LV I'll have a couple of 10's, an 11 and a 12 in. Then I'll use LV for the 13. Goal is really just to finish and try to keep a consistent time per mile that I'm running in the long training runs. After LV we'll see where it goes. I'll only have 6 weeks until the AZ RnR so I doubt I'll really be able to pick up much speed. Probably just try to beat the LV time. Anyway, thanks for the advice.Just a personal anecdote. In 2007, I did the Rockstar series, running 3 fulls and 2 halfs from January to October. There were five weeks between the 2nd and 3rd fulls in the spring, and six weeks between the halfs in the fall. In each pairing, I treated the first race as a training race (e.g. the first full was the "20miler" I would have run for the second full), then tapered to the second race. In each pairing, I ended up PRing the second race. Take a look at your training schedule for AZ. LV may fall on a day for a long run. Your mileage may vary.Happy Birthday to me, yesterday. As it was my 45th, I received a gift of 10minutes towards a BQ time. lolAny thoughts on how much time is needed after a 1/2 marathon before you can/should run another? I'm sure it really depends on the person, but I'm thinking of trying to do the LV RnR on Dec 6 and not even thinking of time just finishing and then the AZ RnR on Jan 17. I really think I'll be ready for the AZ race, but LV might be pushing it. I've just had an itch to head to Vegas and thought that it would be cool to run down the strip.