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Ran a 10k in June (8 Viewers)

Back from ye olde race. I don't know what happened this morning, but I wasn't feeling it. I felt pretty bad during warmups (my legs felt tired just warming up). Never hit a groove. The race had 350 people, of which probably 150 were actual runners. Recap is pretty simple - I led after the first mile, fell to third by mile two, and ended up fourth overall in 21:39. The course was full of small, sharp (10%+) rollers. I found it tough.

Not one step of this run felt good. I usually feel great for the first mile and then it gets painful. This was painful from the get go and it just got worse as it went on. The good part: it was for a good cause and it was a beautiful morning. Funny part: My 10 year old was on his own and saw me winning at the first mile marker (pretty cool all in itself). He then couldn't find where the finish line was (the course wound around a good bit) and ended up running the last 2 miles of the course to find me. :goodposting:

Mile 1: 6:26

Mile 2: 7:06

Mile 3: 7:20

Last .1: :55

Constant deceleration was the order of the day.

On to the next race!

 
Got out and rode outside as planned yesterday. It was later than I would have liked as I was wrapped up in the honey-do list from hell until late in afternoon and the temps near 50 had already dropped to 38 or so, but the sun was still shinning. I had planned to ride anywhere between 20 & 30 miles and had to end it at the shorter side of things at 21 miles because the venting in my shoes made my feet numb due to the cold. I have been spoiled by the trainer not having to deal with wind, hills or the jarring of rough pavement (my neck is killing me from this). I rode my road bike and stayed up on the bars. 4 of the miles were 20 MPH, and I averaged just above 17 MPH. I was really just out to have a nice ride and see where I am at. Today, speedwork is on the menu. I am planing on running 4 miles or so of 1/4 mile sprint/walk repeats at the HS track.

:popcorn: for today's race reports........

ETA, Speedwork DONE. 4.5 miles as outlined above, MAX Speed 5:03 MM. My thighs are cooked.

 
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As I posted on my Facebook page, sometimes a crappy time and a lot of HTFU is actually more beneficial than a PR. Today was one of those days.

As I mentioned a few days ago, I came down with a nasty cold mid-last week, and as much as I'd hoped it would resolve itself before the weekend, such was not the case. Still coughing up a bunch of crap, which has necessitated a steady diet of DayQuil and NyQuil. Was hoping to avoid taking one last night, but I could stop coughing, so I had to do it.

Fast forward to today, and I really didn't know what to expect. As I told The Third when we hooked up briefly before the race, I was still sick, I didn't taper, it was a hilly course, and it was 20-degrees warmer than anything I'd seen in several months. I figured it would be tough to PR, but I figured I'd give it a shot anyway. Managed to run 6:50ish for the first few miles, but I was already behind the 8-ball at the 10K mark (43:31, 7:01 pace). The hills started shortly thereafter, and I was toast. Felt like stopping to walk a bunch of times, especially when I got a nasty side-ache around the 8-mile marker. But in true FBG fashion, decided to HTFU, slow the pace, and just try to run a consistent effort the rest of the way. Ended up running 1:35, so I essentially ran a hilly, 13-mile MP training run. Good enough.

Showered up, hit the road, and stopped at Waffle House on the way back for a post-race treat. I'll probably grab some BBQ tonight, and then it's back on an airplane tomorrow morning.

Sand - Sorry to hear about the tough race yesterday!

 
Here's my race report from the LR Half:

Great day for a race. Weather started in the upper 40s and hit the mid-50s mid-race. Had the chance to catch gruecd before the race and put a face with the name. Guy is tall...he probably takes one stride for 3 of mine!

As I've mentioned, this was my first half. I specifically trained to run an 8:30 pace but wasn't sure that I would be able to sustain it for 13 miles. I think I stated on here several weeks ago that my goal was to run 1:55.

I was able to edge up to the 3:45 pace group in the corrals. My goal was to stay with them through about mile 10 and then pick it up and see what I had left. We ran a pretty uneventful first 3 miles, though because of the congestion, our splits were a little uneven. First mile was 9:07, second mile was 8:07, but things evened out after that.

Approaching mile 4, I look over and see one of my best friends from law school running right next to me. We chatted for awhile and decided to run together as long as we both could keep it up. He had not been training for this race but is a biker and has run a couple of marathons and a 50K in the last few years.

Around mile 6, we started running up on the 3:40 pace group. Not sure if we sped up or they slowed down, but we just kept running and found ourselves ahead of that group` by mile 6.5. I was very hesitant to keep pushing - I did not want to bonk in the last third of the race. We maintained a pretty even pace - ranging from 8:10 to 8:40 depending on the hills, through about mile 10. I slowed a little on miles 11 and 12, but was readying for a kick to the end. Ran the last mile in 7:10.

Finished in 1:51:03 (8:29).

Overall, I was really pleased. I always play the "could I have run faster?" game, but realistically, I think I ran as good as I could have for having run for 5 months. My law school buddy finished 2 seconds behind me, so it was a blast to get to run with him for nearly the entire race. Family at the finish, big medal around my neck, and a nap this afternoon. Good day.

 
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Here's my race report from the LR Half:

Great day for a race. Weather started in the upper 40s and hit the mid-50s mid-race. Had the chance to catch gruecd before the race and put a face with the name. Guy is tall...he probably takes one stride for 3 of mine!

As I've mentioned, this was my first half. I specifically trained to run an 8:30 pace but wasn't sure that I would be able to sustain it for 13 miles. I think I stated on here several weeks ago that my goal was to run 1:55.

I was able to edge up to the 3:45 pace group in the corrals. My goal was to stay with them through about mile 10 and then pick it up and see what I had left. We ran a pretty uneventful first 3 miles, though because of the congestion, our splits were a little uneven. First mile was 9:07, second mile was 8:07, but things evened out after that.

Approaching mile 4, I look over and see one of my best friends from law school running right next to me. We chatted for awhile and decided to run together as long as we both could keep it up. He had not been training for this race but is a biker and has run a couple of marathons and a 50K in the last few years.

Around mile 6, we started running up on the 3:40 pace group. Not sure if we sped up or they slowed down, but we just kept running and found ourselves ahead of that group` by mile 6.5. I was very hesitant to keep pushing - I did not want to bonk in the last third of the race. We maintained a pretty even pace - ranging from 8:10 to 8:40 depending on the hills, through about mile 10. I slowed a little on miles 11 and 12, but was readying for a kick to the end. Ran the last mile in 7:10.

Finished in 1:51:03 (8:29).

Overall, I was really pleased. I always play the "could I have run faster?" game, but realistically, I think I ran as good as I could have for having run for 5 months. My law school buddy finished 2 seconds behind me, so it was a blast to get to run with him for nearly the entire race. Family at the finish, big medal around my neck, and a nap this afternoon. Good day.
AWESOME read, congrats on a great day!!!
 
Gruecd, The Third and PSL - Good Luck this weekend!! (anyone else racing/running races?)
I'm running a 5k tomorrow. I'm aiming for 19:59. Either that or I crawl over the finish line. I'm running it just to support the people doing the race, so it isn't an A race. I'm just going to blast out of the starting gate and see how far I can go at that kind of pace.
Oh Sand - :finger: for you for the fact that my heart-rate monitor kept slipping during my tempo run yesterday. Somehow that has to be your fault...
:lmao: :lmao: Now I feel like part of the club. Maybe not like uber-cool Tri-man, who gets quite a bit of faux-respect because he is just so damn old, but at least a hangers-on who is semi-tolerated. :bye:
Fixed. :finger: :lmao: The Third - excellent, excellent job!!! :cry: :clap:

Sand and gruecd, congrats to both of you for pushing a strong effort in your races. Sand ...funny story about your son! He must have been uber-proud to see dad leading a local race!

I got in two good distance runs this weekend - 11 miles Saturday; 10 miles this morning.

 
The Third - excellent, excellent job!!! :lmao: :clap:

Sand and gruecd, congrats to both of you for pushing a strong effort in your races. Sand ...funny story about your son! He must have been uber-proud to see dad leading a local race!
:goodposting: Well done, gents!!

gruecd - do you think if you'd skipped your 12 miler the other day it would have made any difference? Just curious.

Sand - Sounds like you left it all out there!!

The Third - great effort, especially for your first 1/2!

I got out for a 14 miler on Saturday, decided to try & run blocks of 4 progressively faster, then see what I had left for the final 2. So I ended up with:

4x 8:59

4x 8:47

4x 8:37

2x 8:57 (mile 13 was about a 9:20, so the final mile was around 8:30)

Not bad for my first 14 miler in quite a while.

Today I lifted then hit the bike for 1:20. Averaged 81rpm which is pretty good for me.

Congrats again on the great races this weekend!

 
gruecd - do you think if you'd skipped your 12 miler the other day it would have made any difference? Just curious.
None at all, unless that 12-miler was the determining factor as to whether or not I was still sick on Sunday, which I doubt. :no:Hoping it goes away soon, as the schedule calls for a tough training week. I've got the dreaded 12/7 workout on Thursday, and I'm supposed to do my first 20 of the cycle on Saturday. I find it sorta funny how the 20 seems a lot easier than 12 with 7 at tempo. :shrug:Heading for the airport here shortly, and if everything goes as planned, I'll be back home mid-afternoon. Looking forward to a nice, sunny 5-mile recovery run with temps in the upper 40's. :goodposting:
 
gruecd - every running day is different and you never know what is going to happen in the race. Overall though you gutted it out and you can overcome a lot now just by doing what you did. There is something to be said for that.

The_Third - Great race. Glad you had a good time as well. That makes a big difference in the running experience.

Sand - You still ran a pretty good race. Most of us would really like to have that time. I know I would

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As for my update: I ran my 9 mile pace run on Saturday at a 7:18 pace. This is a bit faster than I thought I would be able to go, but I have been feeling really well as of late. I hope I am not peaking to early, but it all feels really good. Saturday afternoon and night I was on my feet most of the time with my son's birthday party.

Yesterday I ran my 19 miles (in shorts, yes!!!) as planned. I did some miles fast and some a bit slower, but did have an average of 8:05 per mile. I thought this as a pretty good sign for me as feel as I am getting a lot faster now. My legs were not there from the day before, but I felt good enough to push it here and there.

I am beat today, but I still have to go out and do 5 miles. I logged 52 miles last week and will probably be approaching 60 this week for the first time ever. We will see on that though as I have to put in an extra workout sometime and not sure I will feel like it at all.

 
The_Third - Congratulations. You smashed your goal.

Sand - Good time and very cool to have your son see you lead the race.

gruecd - Just keep going. If you've got to get sick, better it happens now.

As for me, the bill came due for all the great runs I've been bragging about lately and I had a pretty mediocre weekend. Part of it is that I did my speed work on Friday this week -- I usually do that Thursday and then take Friday off. So my legs were feeling a little shot all weekend.

Did 6 miles Saturday at my HM desired pace -- 8:00. I ticked all 6 of them off right on the number, but was pretty wiped out at the end. Definitely didn't feel like I could have turned around and done another 7.1 miles at the same speed. Did my first 11-mile run yesterday. My legs were lifeless from the beginning, so I just grinded it out. Did 8:42 for the first 6, and then finally felt a little stretched out and did 8:20 pace for the last 5.

Also, the snow has finally melted off the sidewalks, so I left behind the nice flat, fast looped course I've been training on for the last 4 weeks and went back to my more challening out-and-back route. Hitting those hills again was a rude reminder of reality. I did structure yesterday's run to make it like the HM course, with the big hill coming 5 miles from the finish, and it did feel good to be able to pick up the pace after topping it, since that's my plan for the race.

Other than this upcoming weekend's 12-mile run, my mileage definitely starts to taper between now and the race on March 20 and I'm looking forward to getting some spring back in my legs.

 
Sand - Sounds like you left it all out there!!
Thanks for the notes guys - much appreciated. I think I figured out my difficulty. Saturday night I started to feel bad. Was sick Sunday and had a fever last night. I may have been sick and really didn't know it. It sure didn't feel right - usually my adrenaline and energy levels have me bouncing through mile 1. Saturday was anything but.I have to admit it was pretty cool to lead a race, at least for a bit. ;-)
 
Great race reports! Well done!!!

Also, great training updates! It's good to hear about everyone's progress after the slow holiday season.

My update: Training begins today for my 1/2 in 10 weeks. Monday=rest day...I can handle that! However, I'll probably do an easy 4 outside since it's supposed to rain for the next 4 days.

 
gruecd - do you think if you'd skipped your 12 miler the other day it would have made any difference? Just curious.
None at all, unless that 12-miler was the determining factor as to whether or not I was still sick on Sunday, which I doubt. :shrug: Hoping it goes away soon, as the schedule calls for a tough training week. I've got the dreaded 12/7 workout on Thursday, and I'm supposed to do my first 20 of the cycle on Saturday. I find it sorta funny how the 20 seems a lot easier than 12 with 7 at tempo. :shrug:

Heading for the airport here shortly, and if everything goes as planned, I'll be back home mid-afternoon. Looking forward to a nice, sunny 5-mile recovery run with temps in the upper 40's. :goodposting:
gruecd: There is a nice, nearly full-page color photo of the start of the race on the front page of the Little Rock paper today. You are very easy to spot near the front of the pack. I'll be happy to send you a copy if you care to have one.
 
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The Third said:
gruecd said:
wraith5 said:
gruecd - do you think if you'd skipped your 12 miler the other day it would have made any difference? Just curious.
None at all, unless that 12-miler was the determining factor as to whether or not I was still sick on Sunday, which I doubt. :no: Hoping it goes away soon, as the schedule calls for a tough training week. I've got the dreaded 12/7 workout on Thursday, and I'm supposed to do my first 20 of the cycle on Saturday. I find it sorta funny how the 20 seems a lot easier than 12 with 7 at tempo. :lmao:

Heading for the airport here shortly, and if everything goes as planned, I'll be back home mid-afternoon. Looking forward to a nice, sunny 5-mile recovery run with temps in the upper 40's. :thumbup:
gruecd: There is a nice, nearly full-page color photo of the start of the race on the front page of the Little Rock paper today. You are very easy to spot near the front of the pack. I'll be happy to send you a copy if you care to have one.
Scan and post!
 
The Third said:
gruecd said:
wraith5 said:
gruecd - do you think if you'd skipped your 12 miler the other day it would have made any difference? Just curious.
None at all, unless that 12-miler was the determining factor as to whether or not I was still sick on Sunday, which I doubt. :no: Hoping it goes away soon, as the schedule calls for a tough training week. I've got the dreaded 12/7 workout on Thursday, and I'm supposed to do my first 20 of the cycle on Saturday. I find it sorta funny how the 20 seems a lot easier than 12 with 7 at tempo. :lmao:

Heading for the airport here shortly, and if everything goes as planned, I'll be back home mid-afternoon. Looking forward to a nice, sunny 5-mile recovery run with temps in the upper 40's. :thumbup:
gruecd: There is a nice, nearly full-page color photo of the start of the race on the front page of the Little Rock paper today. You are very easy to spot near the front of the pack. I'll be happy to send you a copy if you care to have one.
Found it in about 3 clicks. Gru, is that your lucky singlet? I recognized it right away.
 
Lots of action this weekend!

Sand: rough day, but it had to feel awesome owning the lead!!

Gruecd: You didn't expect much, so certainly not all that bad. At a minimum, it was a nice training run, and when you are feeling better, life will be easier.

TheThird: GREAT race!!! Being with, then beating your Buddy is priceless!

Wraith: Awesome 14 miler!

PmBrown: Your speed progression has been fun to follow!

TheMan: Getting 6 at pace is great. Without a taper, it's not realistic to expect more from your legs.

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My Race Report:

It was a GREAT all-around day and night. I got up at 5:30 and started to get ready for a 6:00 expected time of departure. I was driving all 7 (three other couples and me) of our neighbors (and best friends) to the race. At 6:35 I got a text from one of the couples asking if they could throw their kids on our sofa to have Mrs. Liquors watch them, as BOTH had sleepovers that they didn't make it through. With the Mrs. still snoozing (= no veto power!), I of course told them "yes." They brought them over right at 6:00 with the youngest (3 y/o boy) screaming as he came in = waking the Mrs. and both of our girls = "bye honey, have a great morning!" :lmao:

The drive was a blast, as the three who were running their first race were pretty darn nervous and we had fun giving them crap. We all got to the start line by 6:55, and it was literally the first time in twenty years that I started a running race with the goal of running WITH (instead of against) somebody else. Even at the start, nobody knew who would be running with who. When the gun went off, we all ran together for the first half mile, when the other three guys took off. I stayed with the three girls 'til the first mile (10:15) marker, then picked up my pace to hopefully join the boys. By mile 1.5 I caught up with two of the guys and they said Chuck went ahead as he's going to stop at the next porta-john. I ran with them through mile 2 (9:15), and then took off to catch Chuck. As I was going, they told me not to wait for them, as they wanted to go their pace. Chuck wasn't far ahead, and with only 800 people running, he was ez to find. He decided he could skip the porta-potty, and we kept a consistent (8:55 p/m) pace through mile 7. At the rest stop, around mile 7, there was a band playing, and I realized that ALL the volunteers AND the band were students of mine, and ALL screaming my name as I came in!!! I told Chuck to go ahead, and I high-fived all of them, beat the drum, thanked them and had a blast with them for approx. 30 seconds. It was awesome!!!

I then took off to catch Chuck again. That mile is literally the steepest hill in our entire area (it's where I do my cycling hill work), and I decided to take it on as hard as I could, as my HR was still very low. I ran it at a sub-8:00 pace and caught Chuck at the very top of it (HR was still only 171!!), after passing probably 100 people, which also felt pretty awesome. Chuck said he felt great, and that he wanted to try to go sub 2 hours (his PR was 2:02). We were about a minute behind 9:00 p/m pace with just 5 miles left = quick math told me that we needed approx. 8:45's to get this done. A gorgeous :no: coed overheard us talking about trying for sub 2:00, and asked if she could run with us. Being the gentlemen we are we wiped the drool from our mouths and told her she absolutely could. Chuck's knees started to bother him at mile 10, and I could see the pain in his face. My HR was slowly getting lower after racing the hill and I couldn't have been enjoying "just running" much more. We lost our coed during mile 10 (I'll iStalk some photos when they are in) and amazingly passed a 10 year old kid (that looked 7!!). I could tell he was struggling, and gave him a gu, and told him that I'd see him next with his medal on at the finish line.

Miles 11 to 13 were lots of work for Chuck, but we were passing quite a few people as we were running a steady 8:45 the whole time (to put it in perspective, his fastest "long" run was at 9:41 pace). It was great finishing with fresh legs, while watching others struggle. I played the role of "cheerleader" for everyone we passed, and thanked all volunteers along the way. My HR went down, EVERY mile after racing the hill, which is certainly a first. Coming into the finish, Chuck literally had nothing left in the tank. We crossed the line together and we shattered his PR with a 1:57:09 (8:57 p/m; 9th out of 21 in AG). My highest HR was 171 (running up the hill), and my average HR was 158, with it being 159 as we crossed the finish line. To put it in perspective, the last marathon I ran, my average HR was 176, and max was 185. I'm pretty positive I could have run the course again at the pace we were running.

Chuck laid down, and I went to see the others come in. The other two guys came in together at 2:07 (9:39 pace), followed by two girls at 2:12, and the last one at 2:17. Two of the girls hadn't run as much as a mile in the decade prior to starting to train for this, and everyone ran much faster than they anticipated (the guys expected to run a 2:10, the first two girls 2:20, and the last 2:30). Had I PR'd (wouldn't have happened with the shape I was in), I could have taken 2nd in my AG = a goal for next year! Realistically I would have most likely run approx. 1:44, which would have been 4th.

Mrs. Liquors, with a house full of kids (9 in total by the time we got home!!), found a way to make an amazing brunch for everyone. We drank and ate straight from 10:30 am until 7:00 pm, causing me to skip my scheduled bike ride this morning. My legs feel great, by head feels about 5 sizes larger today :thumbup:

Edited to add: the 10 year old (with his medal on!) came up to me after the race, offered to replace the gu he "borrowed" (I declined) and thanked me for helping him finish. His dad also thanked me, and took a picture of us. His final time was 2:02:41

 
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Mrs. Liquors, with a house full of kids (9 in total!), found a way to make an amazing brunch for everyone. We drank and ate straight from 10:30 am until 7:00 pm, causing me to skip my scheduled bike ride this morning. My legs feel great, by head feels about 5 sizes larger today :wub:
Great, great report! Congratulations on the run. Sounds like you had a fantastic day. What an excellent reminder that it's not always about running as fast as you can, as much as it is about running as well as you can. Hard to imagine how you could have enjoyed the day any more than you did. Sounds like you are running very strong right now.
 
Mrs. Liquors, with a house full of kids (9 in total!), found a way to make an amazing brunch for everyone. We drank and ate straight from 10:30 am until 7:00 pm, causing me to skip my scheduled bike ride this morning. My legs feel great, by head feels about 5 sizes larger today :banned:
Great, great report! Congratulations on the run. Sounds like you had a fantastic day. What an excellent reminder that it's not always about running as fast as you can, as much as it is about running as well as you can. Hard to imagine how you could have enjoyed the day any more than you did. Sounds like you are running very strong right now.
Awesome job, pigskin. That was a really great read and sounds like you couldn't have squeezed any more fun out of that race.
 
Spent a little time checking up on everyone - looks like you guys have all been kicking #### pretty hard lately. Great job.

Been a while since I posted. I've been battling the IT band. After 4 weeks post injury it wasn't allowing me to run more than 100 yards. Went to PT for about 2.5 weeks during which was told not to run on it at all. I've now got 3, 1 mile runs in and am glad to say it hasn't caused any more IT issues. I plan to get back into it very slowly to avoid re-injury. This week its 4-5, 1 mile runs. Next week I'll up them to 1.5 miles. I'm going to up it 0.5 miles each week until I get back to my 5 mile maintenance distance. Been good to get back out there - I finally feel optimistic about it again.

 
At the rest stop, around mile 7, there was a band playing, and I realized that ALL the volunteers AND the band were students of mine, and ALL screaming my name as I came in!!!
Wellll, a bunch of college kids screaming "liquor" might not necessarily be a shout-out to you, gb! ;) Fun report! Great day!!And nice race pics of gruecd. lol It does look like a photo-shop in the crowd pic. In the other, he's his usual, focused self. Nice.Day off today - first day of spring break for the university. Yoga; 100 lunges; 25 pull-ups (small sets); 90 minutes on the bike trainer. A good morning. Heading out now for a blood platelet donation.
 
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gruecd: There is a nice, nearly full-page color photo of the start of the race on the front page of the Little Rock paper today. You are very easy to spot near the front of the pack. I'll be happy to send you a copy if you care to have one.
I'm famous!!! :coffee: I found the ones online, but if you could send me a hard copy, that would be awesome. I'll text you with my address. Thanks!

 
Found it in about 3 clicks. Gru, is that your lucky singlet? I recognized it right away.
What's with the guy in jeans and hoodie standing right in the middle of the double yellow line?
In the picture of the race start, it looks like gruecd was 'shopped in because he's so much bigger than everyone around him... :goodposting:
What did you want them to do, stand on chairs to make up for the huge height difference?
 
Found it in about 3 clicks. Gru, is that your lucky singlet? I recognized it right away.
What's with the guy in jeans and hoodie standing right in the middle of the double yellow line?
In the picture of the race start, it looks like gruecd was 'shopped in because he's so much bigger than everyone around him... :)
What did you want them to do, stand on chairs to make up for the huge height difference?
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: I literally just posted on his FB page that it looked like him and 1000 2Y's at the start!! :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
 
Found it in about 3 clicks. Gru, is that your lucky singlet? I recognized it right away.
What's with the guy in jeans and hoodie standing right in the middle of the double yellow line?
In the picture of the race start, it looks like gruecd was 'shopped in because he's so much bigger than everyone around him... :)
What did you want them to do, stand on chairs to make up for the huge height difference?
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: I literally just posted on his FB page that it looked like him and 1000 2Y's at the start!! :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
I may have to add that event to the to do list to be amongst my people. :D
 
Tri-Man & PSL, any take on "double bricks"? Looking ahead in the HIM training plan, I have 2 more weeks in the "adaptation phase" before I move to the "speed & endurance phase". Early in the next phase, they toss in a brick day where the suggest doing back to back bricks of 15 miles biked followed by a 2 mile run. I am wondering what the difference is between doing a single and a double brick and the benefits of the double.

 
In the picture of the race start, it looks like gruecd was 'shopped in because he's so much bigger than everyone around him... :lmao:
What did you want them to do, stand on chairs to make up for the huge height difference?
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: I literally just posted on his FB page that it looked like him and 1000 2Y's at the start!! :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
I may have to add that event to the to do list to be amongst my people. :D
Your people are going to be in Chicago on 8/1, my friend...
 
In the picture of the race start, it looks like gruecd was 'shopped in because he's so much bigger than everyone around him...

:bye:
What did you want them to do, stand on chairs to make up for the huge height difference?
:shrug: :lmao: :lmao: I literally just posted on his FB page that it looked like him and 1000 2Y's at the start!!

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
I may have to add that event to the to do list to be amongst my people. :D
Your people are going to be in Chicago on 8/1, my friend...
OUCH! FWIW, the guilt is working, but I may run out of time if it sells out. I have a Fraternity golf outing that is in its 16th year. Typically, it is the 1st weekend in August (did it the weekend after Chicago last year). IF, it is the 2nd weekend, versus the 1st and Chicago hasn't sold out, I'll see if I can make it a 1 day trip.Gruecd, your next themed siglet should be Wheres Waldo striped.

 
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You guys are cracking me up. I was thinking that the caption of the photo would be something like "Godzirra! Godzirra!". Well that at least was the funniest thing I could come up with this morning on my run.

Did 10 this morning before the normal people were up in my house. Crazy to think that i have been up for 4 hours already, but no choice but to just suck it up and get the run in. Did do 7:56 splits so overall it was good. It is nice to run when I am not awake because I don't really know how I am doing...just put one foot in front of the other and go.

 
Did 10 this morning before the normal people were up in my house. Crazy to think that i have been up for 4 hours already, but no choice but to just suck it up and get the run in. Did do 7:56 splits so overall it was good. It is nice to run when I am not awake because I don't really know how I am doing...just put one foot in front of the other and go.
Nice job. Your a.m. sounds exactly like mine, right down to the splits. Oh, except you ran twice as far as I did. Did the first 3 at 7:55 pace, grinded out the uphill mile in 8:15, and then stretched it out a little -- but didn't push it -- for a 7:45 last mile. Finished feeling pretty refreshed. I'm loving the sunrise midway through my runs, though I think that's going away again soon. Doesn't daylight savings time happen this weekend?
 
Tri-Man & PSL, any take on "double bricks"? Looking ahead in the HIM training plan, I have 2 more weeks in the "adaptation phase" before I move to the "speed & endurance phase". Early in the next phase, they toss in a brick day where the suggest doing back to back bricks of 15 miles biked followed by a 2 mile run. I am wondering what the difference is between doing a single and a double brick and the benefits of the double.
2Young: I've never done them but would imagine they'd be beneficial, as you'd be training with tired legs on the second one. It's the same premise as splitting your long runs into 2 in one day, or two in one weekend. You will also have the benefit of working on transitions while tired, which can be trying.I am biking the day after each of my bricks in training for my duathlon as I really need to destroy the bike if I'm going to podium (= biking on tired legs for day 2). My training schedule for Saturdays (brick day) and Sundays (bike day) follow:Sat: 12b/3r; Sun: 25 mile bikeSat: 2r/12b/2r; Sun: 30 mile bikeSat: 3r/14b/2r; Sun: 35 mile bike Sat: 18b/4r; 25 mile bike8 days later = race dayI'm also going to go to 4 runs per week (starting next week), which I haven't done in almost two years. I'm going to concentrate on shorter runs, that have some speed. I'll be running on Mondays (pace); Tuesday (slow); Wed. = bike intervals; Thu. (intervals) Fri. (off). Today I did what will turn into my Monday workout. I ran 5 miles (8:02, 7:50, 7:48; 7:44, 7:39) and felt great, especially considering I was extremely hungover yesterday, and still did a good lunge workout (= this run was with extremely tired legs). My goal is to decrease each mile by :05 seconds for each of the next 4 weeks so that I'm comfortably running 5 at 7:30 pace. It's at least a plan, which means I'm most likely signing up for this puppy :hophead:
 
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Tri-Man & PSL, any take on "double bricks"? Looking ahead in the HIM training plan, I have 2 more weeks in the "adaptation phase" before I move to the "speed & endurance phase". Early in the next phase, they toss in a brick day where the suggest doing back to back bricks of 15 miles biked followed by a 2 mile run. I am wondering what the difference is between doing a single and a double brick and the benefits of the double.
I haven't encountered 'double bricks' in training schedules, nor have I purposefully done them. But like PSL says, it gets you training on tired legs, and trust me, you'll need to be ready for that on a 1/2-IM run.Don't feel bad about missing 8/1. At least ONE of us is making the effort to travel YOUR way for a race or two. :lmao: I might run a 5K in Grand Rapids (my hometown) on Saturday, April 24, which puts me closer to the Pinckney area to get there Saturday pm for packet pick-up, et al.
 
Tri-Man & PSL, any take on "double bricks"? Looking ahead in the HIM training plan, I have 2 more weeks in the "adaptation phase" before I move to the "speed & endurance phase". Early in the next phase, they toss in a brick day where the suggest doing back to back bricks of 15 miles biked followed by a 2 mile run. I am wondering what the difference is between doing a single and a double brick and the benefits of the double.
I haven't encountered 'double bricks' in training schedules, nor have I purposefully done them. But like PSL says, it gets you training on tired legs, and trust me, you'll need to be ready for that on a 1/2-IM run.Don't feel bad about missing 8/1. At least ONE of us is making the effort to travel YOUR way for a race or two. :lmao: I might run a 5K in Grand Rapids (my hometown) on Saturday, April 24, which puts me closer to the Pinckney area to get there Saturday pm for packet pick-up, et al.
Did I miss a memo on Pick on the Little Guy Week?
 
Tri-Man & PSL, any take on "double bricks"? Looking ahead in the HIM training plan, I have 2 more weeks in the "adaptation phase" before I move to the "speed & endurance phase". Early in the next phase, they toss in a brick day where the suggest doing back to back bricks of 15 miles biked followed by a 2 mile run. I am wondering what the difference is between doing a single and a double brick and the benefits of the double.
I haven't encountered 'double bricks' in training schedules, nor have I purposefully done them. But like PSL says, it gets you training on tired legs, and trust me, you'll need to be ready for that on a 1/2-IM run.Don't feel bad about missing 8/1. At least ONE of us is making the effort to travel YOUR way for a race or two. :lmao: I might run a 5K in Grand Rapids (my hometown) on Saturday, April 24, which puts me closer to the Pinckney area to get there Saturday pm for packet pick-up, et al.
Did I miss a memo on Pick on the Little Guy Week?
You running with Gruecd most likely looks something like this :rant:
 
Did 2 really slow miles last night on the treadmill just to work a little soreness out.

I'm trying to figure out what I'm going to run next. We will be at Disney last week in March, so I think the next race will be:

- Capitol City Classic 10K on April 3. Several buddies that ran the LR marathon relay are wanting to run this so it should be fun. Not many 10Ks around here this time of the year.

- St. Vincent Tour de Paul 5K on April 10. This is the one I'm going to run with my 8-year-old daughter. This should be fun as the course winds through the LR Zoo, across the football field at War Memorial Stadium, and through a local golf course. Perfect for her first "real" race.

 
Did I miss a memo on Pick on the Little Guy Week?
What? I let you off the hook for 8/1 and picked on the other guys for not being gracious enough to travel your direction. That said, I see PSL's post, so maybe it is POTLGW. The memo was posted quite high on the office wall, so you might not have seen it.The Third - the 5K with your daughter sounds like fun! Go for it.

I meant to say, too, that jonmhend ...good to hear you're healing up and getting back at it.

 
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For my pavement pounders:

Comparative Marathon training

ABSTRACT

The world's best performance for the men's marathon has regularly stood for long periods but in recent years, it has been regularly improved. At the same time, the focus of training methodology for long-distance runners has shifted from high volume workloads to workloads of less volume combined with higher intensity. In an effort to understand the changes, the authors examined training methodologies employed by the coaches of top-level male marathoners. Using a combination of face-to-face interviews and analysis of published training programmes, the authors studied twelve coaches from five countries (3 Brazilians, 2 Spaniards, 2 Italians, 1 Mexican and 4 Portuguese) whose athletes have achieved excellent results in international competitions. They conclude that there is no straightforward relationship between the training methodology of less volume with high intensity and better results, given that 50% of the coaches studied use high weekly volume workloads and high intensity and 50% of the coaches use a lower volume and high intensity.

 
For my pavement pounders:

Comparative Marathon training

ABSTRACT

The world's best performance for the men's marathon has regularly stood for long periods but in recent years, it has been regularly improved. At the same time, the focus of training methodology for long-distance runners has shifted from high volume workloads to workloads of less volume combined with higher intensity. In an effort to understand the changes, the authors examined training methodologies employed by the coaches of top-level male marathoners. Using a combination of face-to-face interviews and analysis of published training programmes, the authors studied twelve coaches from five countries (3 Brazilians, 2 Spaniards, 2 Italians, 1 Mexican and 4 Portuguese) whose athletes have achieved excellent results in international competitions. They conclude that there is no straightforward relationship between the training methodology of less volume with high intensity and better results, given that 50% of the coaches studied use high weekly volume workloads and high intensity and 50% of the coaches use a lower volume and high intensity.
:thumbup: If only you could train with lower intensity and lower workloads and get the same results :shrug:
 
Tri-Man & PSL, any take on "double bricks"? Looking ahead in the HIM training plan, I have 2 more weeks in the "adaptation phase" before I move to the "speed & endurance phase". Early in the next phase, they toss in a brick day where the suggest doing back to back bricks of 15 miles biked followed by a 2 mile run. I am wondering what the difference is between doing a single and a double brick and the benefits of the double.
I haven't encountered 'double bricks' in training schedules, nor have I purposefully done them. But like PSL says, it gets you training on tired legs, and trust me, you'll need to be ready for that on a 1/2-IM run.Don't feel bad about missing 8/1. At least ONE of us is making the effort to travel YOUR way for a race or two. :goodposting: I might run a 5K in Grand Rapids (my hometown) on Saturday, April 24, which puts me closer to the Pinckney area to get there Saturday pm for packet pick-up, et al.
Did I miss a memo on Pick on the Little Guy Week?
You running with Gruecd most likely looks something like this :goodposting:
Wraith needs to repost our Chicago photo, its creepy how much we look like that cover.
 
Went for my first run today since the knee flared up at the end of January. I bought a knee brace, and was hopeful of completing 6 miles. The weather was absolutely awesome (mid-60's), and I had absolutely zero discomfort anywhere in my legs, so I ended up doing 7 miles instead. :lmao:

I was getting pretty down about my chances of completing my 1/2 at the end of March, but after today's run I am much more optimistic.
Tecumseh: Haven't heard from you in awhile. How is the training going for the 1/2? Has the knee been giving you anymore problems? Do you still have Gobi on the brain?
 
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Tri-Man & PSL, any take on "double bricks"? Looking ahead in the HIM training plan, I have 2 more weeks in the "adaptation phase" before I move to the "speed & endurance phase". Early in the next phase, they toss in a brick day where the suggest doing back to back bricks of 15 miles biked followed by a 2 mile run. I am wondering what the difference is between doing a single and a double brick and the benefits of the double.
I haven't encountered 'double bricks' in training schedules, nor have I purposefully done them. But like PSL says, it gets you training on tired legs, and trust me, you'll need to be ready for that on a 1/2-IM run.Don't feel bad about missing 8/1. At least ONE of us is making the effort to travel YOUR way for a race or two. :rolleyes: I might run a 5K in Grand Rapids (my hometown) on Saturday, April 24, which puts me closer to the Pinckney area to get there Saturday pm for packet pick-up, et al.
Did I miss a memo on Pick on the Little Guy Week?
You running with Gruecd most likely looks something like this ;)
Wraith needs to repost our Chicago photo, its creepy how much we look like that cover.
pics can be found here. Nice runs today pmbrown, The_Man, and PSL!! You guys all make me want to work harder!

Today I did speedwork for the first time since 12/2 (before the Tucson Marathon). 1 mile warmup/cooldown, and 3x 1 mile (7:20, 7:24, 7:14). A little slower than my peak last summer, but way ahead of where I was last year at this time. My HR never got above 185, but my legs were very tired on the 3rd mile and I just couldn't turnover any faster than I did. I imagine that will improve as I start to incorporate 400s and 800s again.

Afterwards, some madness got a hold of me and I did 3 sets of lunges walking home. My legs already hurt.

 
And now an update that has nothing to do with my height. Took my road bike out for an 11-mile ride for lunch followed by 5 sets of lunges, push ups & crunches. Last night's swim included swimming the HIM distance (84 25-yard lengths) in around 43 to 45 minutes, followed by another 26 lengths to get me to 2,750 yards total. Today was my 11th training day straight, if you count on strength/core day in the mix. The plan is to swim easy tomorrow and run easy on Thursday and then hit a couple of rest days back to back on Friday & Saturday. I am supposed to be fun running a St Pat's 5K on Sunday, but I never know what my buddies are going to want to do (race it or run it) so I figure I better have semi-fresh legs just in case. Best part of the 5K is the 5 hours or so of drinking that follows while watching the Detroit-Corktown Parade. It is the closest thing to Mardi Gras we Detroiters get (including drinking in the streets and the whole bead thing).

 
I've done some iStalking have come up with the following:

#414 = the girl that I passed on the bike multiple times during my bike ride last Wednesday = :wub:

#203 = the ten your old boy I gave the gu to!!!

#526 = the girl who paced off of us for awhile :shrug:

I might go back and do more work, as there were 124 girls aged 20-34 out of the 800 who ran (God Bless a College town!), and I haven't found nearly as much talent as I saw on Sunday. Here are a few to look at (this is not my best work):

417

547

342

295

 
I've done some iStalking have come up with the following:#414 = the girl that I passed on the bike multiple times during my bike ride last Wednesday = :wub: #203 = the ten your old boy I gave the gu to!!!#526 = the girl who paced off of us for awhile :thumbup:I might go back and do more work, as there were 124 girls aged 20-34 out of the 800 who ran (God Bless a College town!), and I haven't found nearly as much talent as I saw on Sunday. Here are a few to look at (this is not my best work):417547342295
You sure 295 isn't 14?
 
As for my update: I ran my 9 mile pace run on Saturday at a 7:18 pace. This is a bit faster than I thought I would be able to go, but I have been feeling really well as of late. I hope I am not peaking to early, but it all feels really good. Saturday afternoon and night I was on my feet most of the time with my son's birthday party.Yesterday I ran my 19 miles (in shorts, yes!!!) as planned. I did some miles fast and some a bit slower, but did have an average of 8:05 per mile. I thought this as a pretty good sign for me as feel as I am getting a lot faster now. My legs were not there from the day before, but I felt good enough to push it here and there.
That is an outstanding 2 days...seems like you're dialed in. I was going for the 9 pace / 20 this weekend but got derailed by a hard rain on Sunday and had to cut my long run short at 10 after I was completely soaked. I'm going for 20 tomorrow after hitting 9 fairly hard tonight.
 
As for my update: I ran my 9 mile pace run on Saturday at a 7:18 pace. This is a bit faster than I thought I would be able to go, but I have been feeling really well as of late. I hope I am not peaking to early, but it all feels really good. Saturday afternoon and night I was on my feet most of the time with my son's birthday party.Yesterday I ran my 19 miles (in shorts, yes!!!) as planned. I did some miles fast and some a bit slower, but did have an average of 8:05 per mile. I thought this as a pretty good sign for me as feel as I am getting a lot faster now. My legs were not there from the day before, but I felt good enough to push it here and there.
That is an outstanding 2 days...seems like you're dialed in. I was going for the 9 pace / 20 this weekend but got derailed by a hard rain on Sunday and had to cut my long run short at 10 after I was completely soaked. I'm going for 20 tomorrow after hitting 9 fairly hard tonight.
They are a rough couple of days to go through so good luck. I am feeling pretty good. I start my 20's this weekend with a 10/20 combo Saturday and Sunday. For me, this week is not a pace weekend so I get a bit of a break there.
 
This past Saturday, I ran the Snickers Half-Marathon in Albany, GA. I put up a PR of 1:41:31, a whopping 6 seconds better than my previous best. Nice flat, fast course, I ran slight negative splits and I didn't train very hard for this race.

Next up: 5k Plus One More Mile in Athens, GA -- Best thing about this race: Saturday afternoon and a tour/tasting at the Terrepin Brewery post-race!

 

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