Ran a 10k in June (5 Viewers)

[2Young2BBald]

do we call that a Sand-storm?), which will force others to pass me.

I have now officially developed a reputation.

I was actually thinking that a whole triathlon could be described via the FBG's: "We had a large field, so I Sandstormed the start to get ahead of the pack. The bike course was hilly and windy, so I knew I needed to Basswatt it pretty hard. That took a lot out of me, so I hardened up and just Grue'd the run and finished strong. I Younged through both transitions, which knocked off some time. Despite the effort, I was still able to Liquorpic some race numbers for later viewing."

Hang around long enough, you become a verb - SWEET!

 

[BassNBrew]

I hope you have a better run than I did.

Mine was pretty good. It's pushing 80 degrees here, too, but I knocked out a 5-miler and felt very easy cruising at 7:41 average pace. Knowing that I'll be going 16 in the morning, I purposely held back.

What type of temp. differential were you dealing with v. your previous long runs? Usually 86 degrees would be comtfortable for me. Looking at my pace mile paces eroded and hr climb tells me something was wrong. You think it was tired legs or the heat or improper hydration? I was coming off an unscheduled rest day.On the plus side, dipped down to 215 on the scale today after the run. Was 218 this morning. Weighed in at 220 at the race on Sunday. 202-205 by June would be my goal. Better yet would be to weigh in at 199.5 pre-race in June and then slam 8 oz of water to get to the 200 requirement.

 

[2Young2BBald]

I hope you have a better run than I did.10 miles 11'47 142 HRmile 1 - 8'40 125 hrmile 2 - 9'18 153 hrmile 3 - 9'35 151 hrmile 4 - 9'16 154 hrmile 5 - 11'00 156 hrmile 6 - 11'15 159 hrHouston we have a problem....abort.mile 7 - 12'20 144 hrmile 8-10 run/walk 15 min/miI don't know eactly what the issue was. Legs were a bit tired, but I think the heat did me in. 86 degrees this afternoon. I don't think I've run north of 60 degrees this year. Definately any longer run has been under 50 degrees. I started getting the chills and my skin felt cold to the touch. Found a creek during mile 7 to drink and cool off. When I stopped i began sweating profusely. Actually started running again to cool down.Well it was a planned 10 miler so I did get it in. Mainly because I ran 5 miles away from the house. I think I'll look for a route with some loops by the house until I get used to the heat.

I had almost the exact thing happen to me out in Boise a few years ago. I was running on vapors sleep and stress-wise and thought a run would do me some good to clear my head. It was 90+ (zero humidity) but I was at 3000+ feet of altitude. I was about 5 miles in to an 8 mile run. I remember saying over and over in my head "don't pass out, don't pass out". I walked over to the Boise River (I was on the Green Belt), found a rock the size of my butt and sat down in the river, which as about 60 degrees. After about 10 minutes, I felt well enough to SLOWLY finish the run. Sounds like a combo of too much distance too much heat.

 

[BassNBrew]

do we call that a Sand-storm?), which will force others to pass me.

I have now officially developed a reputation.

I was actually thinking that a whole triathlon could be described via the FBG's: "We had a large field, so I Sandstormed the start to get ahead of the pack. The bike course was hilly and windy, so I knew I needed to Basswatt it pretty hard. That took a lot out of me, so I hardened up and just Grue'd the run and finished strong. I Younged through both transitions, which knocked off some time. Despite the effort, I was still able to Liquorpic some race numbers for later viewing."

I'd add: "Even though it took a bit of extra time, I Tri-Manned some lunges in both Transitions, as a gesture finger to my fellow competitors." And, at the start, the swim caps made everyone look 2Young2BBald.edited to add: You Wraithed that mid-tempo workout, and awesome to hear that you have a plan on hand!

Unfortunately I lost time due to navigating like a liquored pig. Overcame that to stand on the podium and then toss back a coldeus one in celebration.

 

[pmbrown_22]

6 easy miles for me this morning. Usually an off day for me today, but with Easter and all this weekend, Sunday will be my off day. 12 tomorrow as long as my legs don't fall off. They are not used to running this many days in a row. All will be well though and I will get some good rest tonight.

Bass - could it have been a possibility of all of the things you mentioned. a 20 degree temp increas is a pretty big difference. I know that it does take some time for your body to get used to newer temps. I know this morning was about 60 here in Cincy and I could have worn a long sleeve shirt, but decided against it so my body will get used to the new temps here. I know in July, I will be begging for a 60 degree day.

 

[wraith5]

Bass - could it have been a possibility of all of the things you mentioned. a 20 degree temp increas is a pretty big difference. I know that it does take some time for your body to get used to newer temps.

Got out for another short bike ride this morning; did my now standard 4x 2.83 loop. This time I was focused on improving my 75 ave cadence from the last two rides. Ended up with an average of 83, and was more consistent with my times for each loop (slightly faster overall).

 

[gruecd]

What up, guys? Only 17 more days until the big one!

Took advantage of the day off and knocked out my 16-miler this morning. Ran with a girl I know who's a 2:48 marathoner and who's aiming to run sub-8 pace at the Mad City 100K in Madison next weekend! We ran a tough, hilly course, with the last 4+ miles into a stiff south wind, but we still managed to knock out 7:43 average pace, with the last mile at 7:30. That being said, there's no doubt in my mind that I held her back.

Tomorrow I'll do another 10 with a few hills, and I'll do an easy 5-6 miles on Sunday. Weighed in at 204 after this morning's run, but I'm sure I'll be back around 208-209 by the end of the day. If I can toe the line on Patriot's Day under 210, I'll be happy.

Have a great day, everyone!

 

[2Young2BBald]

Tomorrow I'll do another 10 with a few hills, and I'll do an easy 5-6 miles on Sunday. Weighed in at 204 after this morning's run, but I'm sure I'll be back around 208-209 by the end of the day. If I can toe the line on Patriot's Day under 210, I'll be happy.

Life is so tough for you Clydes Kidding of course and ever jealous of the miles you can put down.Update on tomorrow's training plan. I am going to hook up and train with the buddy of mine that is doing the HIM with me in July. He is a VERY good sprint triathlete and is dominant on the swim & bike legs. The loose plan now is to do about an hour each, bike & run, with him pushing me on the bike and vice versa on the run. We've gone head up 5 times, with him leading 3 to 2, and the times I've beaten him, I've had to pass him on the run. We talked today and had similar conversations about what we "fear" for the HIM. He is very confident (rightly so) about the swim and the bike and freaked out, whereas, I just want to get to the run to see what all I have left.

 

[tri-man 47]

Tough but encouraging 3-hour bike-run brick today. Went to a forest preserve with a paved, winding, 7.7 mile loop. Did four+ loops on the bike, then once around for the run. I pushed the tempo on the second and fourth bike loops, and they were as fast as I've ever done them there (and this is with just getting the bike outside yesterday) ..pacing of about 19, then 19.5 mph, on those two. As always, it felt like the run was dragging along, but I timed the middle miles and was hitting an 8:05/mile pace. So yeah, encouraging, though I'm pretty wiped out right now.

 

[Sand]

What up, guys? Only 17 more days until the big one!

Took advantage of the day off and knocked out my 16-miler this morning. Ran with a girl I know who's a 2:48 marathoner and who's aiming to run sub-8 pace at the Mad City 100K in Madison next weekend! :whoosh: We ran a tough, hilly course, with the last 4+ miles into a stiff south wind, but we still managed to knock out 7:43 average pace, with the last mile at 7:30. That being said, there's no doubt in my mind that I held her back.

Tomorrow I'll do another 10 with a few hills, and I'll do an easy 5-6 miles on Sunday. Weighed in at 204 after this morning's run, but I'm sure I'll be back around 208-209 by the end of the day. If I can toe the line on Patriot's Day under 210, I'll be happy.

Have a great day, everyone!

You are so going to crush this race. As you go by the Kenyans they are going to be asking "Who the f*** is that big guy who just flew by us?"---

On my end I have a day of vacation since my kid is off of school. I did a good pool workout today. I crushed it. Just destroyed my sets. Managed to do 10x200 holding 1:22-1:24/100. Finished up with a set of 5x100 where I never got over 1:16 and dipped down to 1:14.

I usually do my workouts in the afternoon after work, so maybe this morning workout left me a bit fresher. In any case my sorry ### was practically hydroplaning. I have a 6.5 mile run to do this afternoon and then some biking at the state park tomorrow. Way too nice to sit inside.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Did a hard-ish 5 yesterday in the wind, and an easy 5 today. 27 for the week.

With lent drawing to a close, I'm down to 160 from a pre-lent weight of 170 give or take. Part of that is from giving up booze for lent, but I've also reduced how much I eat. I used to keep Ritz crackers or Wheat Thins or stuff like that in my office, but that's gone now. I'm thinking I might give up alcohol again when I get into serious marathon training, but that's easy to say in early April; we'll see how that pans out in July.

 

[wraith5]

Got off work early today, so I headed over to the pool and did 1600 (mostly in 200 repeats). Honestly it was a little rough. The place I like wasn't open for laps, so I had to go to Bally's, which was surprisingly crowded. Turns out, I hate sharing a (narrow) lane with someone. It stressed me out and I couldn't find a good rhythm. The one time I had the lane to myself I was able to stretch out a decent 300. I didn't have my watch so I have no idea how slow I was going...

I did notice that when I concentrated on a good "pull" in the water, even though it doesn't feel natural, I needed a lot fewer strokes to get across the pool. Huh. Go figure.

 

[FUBAR]

Got off work early today, so I headed over to the pool and did 1600 (mostly in 200 repeats). Honestly it was a little rough. The place I like wasn't open for laps, so I had to go to Bally's, which was surprisingly crowded. Turns out, I hate sharing a (narrow) lane with someone. It stressed me out and I couldn't find a good rhythm. The one time I had the lane to myself I was able to stretch out a decent 300. I didn't have my watch so I have no idea how slow I was going... I did notice that when I concentrated on a good "pull" in the water, even though it doesn't feel natural, I needed a lot fewer strokes to get across the pool. Huh. Go figure.

I have gotten in the habit of hitting the pool at 530 because at 630 it can get crowded. Absolutely hate swimming with people in my lane because most of them don't understand the rules of the pool, I've explained it to some and they just don't seem to be able to follow them, swimming on the wrong side, running in the lane, standing in the middle as I come to do a flip turn, etc. Even when people in the lane do get it, if it's crowded it's still impossible to get around them and most aren't fast. Sadly, the indoor pool here is now shut down for maintenance and it's a month before the outdoor pool opens. (great planning there, thanks guys) so I'll run more and we've just started biking again. 3 weeks to the Country Music Marathon, just over 2 months to the Kansas Half-Ironman.

 

[2Young2BBald]

Got off work early today, so I headed over to the pool and did 1600 (mostly in 200 repeats). Honestly it was a little rough. The place I like wasn't open for laps, so I had to go to Bally's, which was surprisingly crowded. Turns out, I hate sharing a (narrow) lane with someone. It stressed me out and I couldn't find a good rhythm. The one time I had the lane to myself I was able to stretch out a decent 300. I didn't have my watch so I have no idea how slow I was going... I did notice that when I concentrated on a good "pull" in the water, even though it doesn't feel natural, I needed a lot fewer strokes to get across the pool. Huh. Go figure.

While I like having my own lane now and then (which has been a rarity this year), having another swimmer in your lane is far better practice for triathlon. I try to site the other swimmer in my lane 3 to 5 times per length, and under water site folks in other lanes too. On race day, if I can find someone swimming my pace to the right me and can't draft them and think they are doing a better job of staying on course than me, I'll skip siting and site off them (which is easier because my head stays down). The pool can get you married to that line down the middle, don't skip practicing siting. Also, if you get bumped, splashed, etc, practice swmming through it for race day. There is a guy that goes about 320 that has been put in my lane from time to time. As part of his reps, he does a few butterfly sprint sets where he churns the hell out of the water. The first time he did them, he let me know and apologized if it threw me off. I let him know there was no need to apologize and encouraged him to let it rip while I worked through his wake and waves.

 

[2Young2BBald]

3 weeks to the Country Music Marathon, just over 2 months to the Kansas Half-Ironman.

Very interested in if/how you modified a HIM training plan to accomodate marathon training or vice versa.

 

[gruecd]

Hey, everybody. Found out last night that there's a 5-mile race happening about 30 minutes from my house this morning. Wish I'd known sooner, as I definitely would've liked to have done it. As it is, my legs are definitely not in race shape following yesterday's hilly 16 miles, so I'll probably just head out later for an easy 8-10. Looking forward to a couple good basketball games tonight. Let's go, Mountaineers!

P.S. I think we need to take Furley's name out of the thread title. Truth in advertising, ya know?

 

[FUBAR]

3 weeks to the Country Music Marathon, just over 2 months to the Kansas Half-Ironman.

Very interested in if/how you modified a HIM training plan to accomodate marathon training or vice versa.

Honestly, I didn't have the best marathon or HIM training program. The normal week looked something like:Sunday: long run of 12-20 milesMonday: Swim ~90 minutes, intervalsTuesday: 30 minutes strength training followed by 60 minutes football/soccer PTWednesday: 30/45 minutes swim or run followed by a variety of run/cross-fit type PTThursday: ~5 mile runFriday: Swim ~90 minutes, long distanceSaturday: restWe're replacing swim with bike for the next month and then after the marathon probably replace run with bike/swim except for the PT which is mandatory. We'll include a few Brick sessions.I think I'll survive both events but won't be setting any records. I suppose the HIM might be a PR just because it's the 2nd one we'll do, but we should have biked more in the cold.

 

[tri-man 47]

Sadly, the indoor pool here is now shut down for maintenance and it's a month before the outdoor pool opens. (great planning there, thanks guys) so I'll run more and we've just started biking again.

3 weeks to the Country Music Marathon, just over 2 months to the Kansas Half-Ironman.

The indoor university pool I use will shut down in early May, and I'll have a four-week gap until the village outdoor pools open for summer. But I find I don't have too big a dropoff, so I'll just put in more bike time, too, and not stress it.The KC HIM seems like an interesting one. A few years ago I did a HIM a couple months after a marathon ...it's tough! Be sure to give yourself plenty of rest after KC. You'll have earned it!

IK - I picked up a big bag of almonds from Sam's and keep a smaller baggie of them in a desk drawer. For a snack, I'll pull out several and munch away - good, and good for ya. I'll also sometimes bring in a banana or one of those little nectarines. It keeps me from overindulging at lunch.

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11 mile run this morning. Tired legs; slow pace. But I'll lay low on Easter Sunday, and Mondays have been just a yoga day and maybe some strength work, so I'll get some rest.

 

[2Young2BBald]

Brick - DONE. 20 mile ride, 18.4 MPH average, very hilly, very windy and darn happy as we were not pushing all that hard. Followed it up with a 53 minute 10K run. Again, not bad for this time of year. A month or so from now, we would have no doubt made it a 3 discipline brick and swam at some point. Learned a good lesson about the Garmin too. Don't fart around with the buttons while in motion. I hit a combo by accident that locked the buttons and had to Google up how to unlock them on the BlackBerry. I would have liked to have had access to the data vs. locked at the summary screen I was on.

 

[Sand]

Dateline: April 3rd

Location: 100,000 yards from start (of the year)

 

[IvanKaramazov]

IK - I picked up a big bag of almonds from Sam's and keep a smaller baggie of them in a desk drawer. For a snack, I'll pull out several and munch away - good, and good for ya. I'll also sometimes bring in a banana or one of those little nectarines. It keeps me from overindulging at lunch.

Yeah, I do still keep almonds around sometimes, and occasionally I pick up dried fruit or jerky. The main thing is that I need to keep empty carbs out of my office, at least as snack food. (I do have chips in my office, but they're for lunches, not snacks).

 

[wraith5]

Dateline: April 3rdLocation: 100,000 yards from start (of the year)

62.5 miles... in 3 months... WOW.

 

[Dexter]

Had a great 3 mile run today. I'm feeling a little pain in my left foot. I think I'm landing wrong. I'll have to watch how I'm running tomorrow.

 

[gruecd]

Hey, guys. Hope everyone had a great Easter.

Did an easy 5-miler yesterday, and then 10 this afternoon. Nice, relaxed 8:01 average pace on today's run, but a couple of miles were rough running into some nasty wind gusts.

Week one of the taper is complete, and with the decreased mileage, I really need to start watching what I eat. Week in review:

M: 6 rec at 7:54

T: 8 @ 7:47 (incl 5 x 600M at 2:14, 2:15, 2:12, 2:13, 2:17)

W: Off

T: 5 @ 7:41

F: 16 hilly @ 7:43

S: 5 @ 7:54

S: 10 @ 8:01

Total 50 miles for the week. Only 36 miles on tap for this week, and only one more double-digit run (12-miler next Sat) on the schedule before the race!

 

[FUBAR]

Dateline: April 3rdLocation: 100,000 yards from start (of the year)

62.5 miles... in 3 months... WOW.

Swimming, it's pretty good assuming he has a job.

 

[tri-man 47]

Week one of the taper is complete, and with the decreased mileage, I really need to start watching what I eat and drink.

Fixed.

 

[gruecd]

Week one of the taper is complete, and with the decreased mileage, I really need to start watching what I eat and drink.

Fixed.

Good call. I'll start after the basketball game tomorrow night.

 

[Sand]

Dateline: April 3rdLocation: 100,000 yards from start (of the year)

62.5 miles... in 3 months... WOW.

Swimming, it's pretty good assuming he has a job.

Only a bit more than 3 hrs/week to get there. And, yes, I do have a job.

 

[pmbrown_22]

Not much of an update for me. I took an extra day of rest on Saturday and did not run. I did yard work Friday night and had more to do on Saturday. I woke up on Saturday and just went back to sleep and got the extra rest. The only thing that i did do was eat a ton of easter candy out of my kids baskets. That will hopefully come off this week as I got up early and ran 6 this morning on fresh legs. This is my last big milage week before the marathon so I am pretty excited about that.

 

[2Young2BBald]

Added a new twist to my core work yesterday by doing some leg throws. The way this came about, was that my daughter was bragging that she had done 50 of them at dance and that they are as hard, if not harder than they appear when we've seen the done on The Biggest Loser. Not being competitive at all, I told her I could easily do double AND told her my son could do the throwing as hard as he could throw. I ended up doing 125 I can certainly feel it today. I went for a quick 12 mile ride right after to stretch the legs a bit. Today starts an active recovery week, which I am going to make very easy leading up to Saturday's 1/2 marathon. I am having an old hip injury flare up a bit (hurt it playing adult kickball a few years ago ), and think some easy workouts will do me some good.

 

[pigskinliquors]

2Young: never thought about WANTING somebody in my lane. Sweeet! Also great job showing the kids who's boss!

Sand: 100,000 yards =

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My update:

On Saturday morning we had a neighborhood garage sail, which included a couple rum drinks for breakfast. Of course I still attempted a 2.4 mile run, 13 mile ride 2.4 mile run once it was over (had to HTFU!). It was 79 degrees when I started at 1:30, and pretty windy.

Initial run: goal was to slow down a bit from last week so see what affect it would have on my ride

mile 1 = 6:57

mile 2 = 6:56

.4 mile = 6:57 (goal accomplished, HR stayed under 180, legs felt great)

T1: nailed it; in and out in less than :30

13 mile Bike: goal was to just pound it. Wind was with me going out, and I flew for the first 7 (averaged 24.5!), prior to tuning directly back into it for the last 6 (lots of trouble trying to maintain 20.0). I ended up averaging 21.9 MPH (was at 22.1 going into the last mile ) which made me ecstatic, and my HR was at 170 coming in [all seemed great!].

T2: pretty slow as we had neighbors come over right as I was coming in, and they wanted me to have a beer and to caxl the last run. Briefly thought about it and headed out (probably close to 1:00 = too long). I made it all of a quarter mile prior to both calves starting to cramp. I walked back in, and went to the Man-Fridge to get a cold beer, sat down with it with my friend and popped it open. He stated that I hadn't really "earned it" if I couldn't even finish a workout (he's done a HIM). I put the beer down, stretched and said "F.U.", I'll see in a few minutes [T2 ended up being approx. 15 minutes], as I ran out (literally).

mile 1 = 6:59

mile 2 = 6:58

.4 mile = 6:54

My beer was still cold and waiting for me when I got in I'm pretty sure drinking prior to the workout and the heat contributed to the cramping. Just a guess

About an hour later I got a call from my Dept. Head to let me know that I officially was promoted to Full Professor. Many shots ensued after that as we laid around our pool for the rest of the day.

Yesterday I did a 16 mile bike ride, on a much hillier and technical route (many turns), still with strong winds which is VERY similar to the ride I'll have for the duo next weekend. I was ecstatic to average 21.6 MPH for it!

Also, like an idiot, I played basketball for an hour and a half yesterday in 85 degree heat and my left knee is damn sore.

 

[gruecd]

About an hour later I got a call from my Dept. Head to let me know that I officially was promoted to Full Professor. Many shots ensued after that as we laid around our pool for the rest of the day.

Congrats on the promotion, liquors!! Oh, and you're an idiot for trying to play basketball yesterday when that's not something you do regularly. Duh.

 

[2Young2BBald]

About an hour later I got a call from my Dept. Head to let me know that I officially was promoted to Full Professor. Many shots ensued after that as we laid around our pool for the rest of the day.

Congrats on the promotion, liquors!! Oh, and you're an idiot for trying to play basketball yesterday when that's not something you do regularly. Duh.

I'll second the congratulations!!!!! As for the calf cramps, it may be voodoo science, but the pink sea salt & balancing my Ph level appears to be working to relieve the cramping. Saturday's brick was a good test. I was wearing the 2XUs too, so this may be more of a contributing factor than the salt. I used the pink sea salt & lemon in fuel belt water on the run. I had taken HEED on the bike and an Apple Cinnamon Hammer Gel at transition.

 

[wraith5]

... I got a call from my Dept. Head to let me know that I officially was promoted to Full Professor.

Congratulations!! _____________________________ On Saturday I was scheduled to hit 13 miles at Half-Marathon pace + 30 sec/mile (which at my latest bumped time goals is 8:35s) but I decided I wanted to stretch to 15. Turns out I just didn't have the legs for it. I hung on at the end of 13 for an 8:42 ave but had to jog in the rest of a 14.3 overall run. My HR was really good the whole way but my legs were just freakin' tired (and the wind didn't help matters any). I was pretty disappointed with the effort initially, but upon looking back at the week, I realized: Sunday - Run 14.1 miles @ 8:30 Monday - Swim 1900 ydsTuesday - Run 7 miles (speedwork) Wednesday - Bike 13.3 miles Thursday - Run 6 miles @ 7:56 (7 total) Friday - Bike 13.5 miles, Swim 1600 ydsSaturday - Run 14.3 miles Total 42.77 miles run, 26.8 bike, 2.2 miles swim. For me, that's a darn good week! Took yesterday off completely and will do the same again today, so hopefully I'll be running on fresh legs tomorrow.

 

[tri-man 47]

T1: nailed Younged it; in and out in less than :30

Fixed.

On Saturday morning we had a neighborhood garage sail.

I officially was promoted to Full Professor.

Good thing you're not a Professor of English. Congrats!Great training; great stories!!

Wraith - wow!!!

 

[IvanKaramazov]

About an hour later I got a call from my Dept. Head to let me know that I officially was promoted to Full Professor.

Congratulations. I woke up with a hangover today. Usually running is a great hangover cure for me, but not today. I still felt terrible after my five miler.

 

[gruecd]

Knocked out a really nice workout tonight. Last hard one of the training cycle. Did a 2-mile warmup, then 3 x 1600M at 6:05, 6:03, 6:07 (with 3:30 recovery jogs), then finished it off with another 3+ miles at 7:30 pace, including the last mile at MP (7:13). Total 9 miles in 1:03:26, for an average pace of 7:03. Glad to have it done.

 

[pmbrown_22]

Knocked out a really nice workout tonight. Last hard one of the training cycle. Did a 2-mile warmup, then 3 x 1600M at 6:05, 6:03, 6:07 (with 3:30 recovery jogs), then finished it off with another 3+ miles at 7:30 pace, including the last mile at MP (7:13). Total 9 miles in 1:03:26, for an average pace of 7:03. Glad to have it done.

Dude, you got your mojo workin'. You are ready to rock.

 

[gruecd]

Knocked out a really nice workout tonight. Last hard one of the training cycle. Did a 2-mile warmup, then 3 x 1600M at 6:05, 6:03, 6:07 (with 3:30 recovery jogs), then finished it off with another 3+ miles at 7:30 pace, including the last mile at MP (7:13). Total 9 miles in 1:03:26, for an average pace of 7:03. Glad to have it done.

Dude, you got your mojo workin'. You are ready to rock.

Thanks, bro. Other than that one crappy long run, I've been feeling pretty good lately. Not shooting for a PR at Boston, and although I'm already qualified for next year, it would definitely be neat to qualify again at Boston, which would mean going sub-3:10. It's gonna tough with the hills, but I'll give it a shot!

 

[pigskinliquors]

Gruecd; You are amazingly ready to nail it!!!

2Young: I most likely won't be trying Pink Sea Salt, as my non-cramping cure has been Rolaids. Knock on wood, I've never had them (at least bad) when using them pre-race.

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My Update:

Went to do my normal lunge sets last night, and my knee wouldn't let me do them (Gruecd, I did know better, but pride and alcohol were involved). Woke up for my am run, and it felt much better. Temp was only 71, but the humidity was so thick you could almost feel yourself cutting through it (first hot and humid run of the year). I'd planned on running 6 miles with the first 8:00, then each subsequent one :10 faster (= sub 7:40 pace overall). Mile 1 was 8:01, and mile two 7:49, but my heart was already racing, and sweat was pouring out of every inch of me. I decided it wasn't the best day to put myself into cardiac arrest, so I slowed it down, and ran miles 3 through 6 between 7:55 and 7:59. Legs feel pretty good, and more importantly, my knees feel great. Race is on Saturday morning, and the Mrs. now has to work then = I need to scramble to get both kids a babysitter, or sleepovers. Fun, fun, fun!

 

[The_Man]

Knocked out a really nice workout tonight. Last hard one of the training cycle. Did a 2-mile warmup, then 3 x 1600M at 6:05, 6:03, 6:07 (with 3:30 recovery jogs), then finished it off with another 3+ miles at 7:30 pace, including the last mile at MP (7:13). Total 9 miles in 1:03:26, for an average pace of 7:03. Glad to have it done.

Dude, you got your mojo workin'. You are ready to rock.

Thanks, bro. Other than that one crappy long run, I've been feeling pretty good lately. Not shooting for a PR at Boston, and although I'm already qualified for next year, it would definitely be neat to qualify again at Boston, which would mean going sub-3:10. It's gonna tough with the hills, but I'll give it a shot!

Lot of awesome stuff in here. But I particularly love this idea of running a BQ at Boston. When you cross the finish line, they should just hand you a voucher for next year's race.I need a little advice about picking your first marathon, as tomorrow is registration day for the Marine Corps Marathon. I'm looking at doing either that, or something a month later up in my neck of the woods called the North Central Trail Marathon. They couldn't be more different -- the MCM is tens of thousands of runners, running up and down some of the most famous streets in the U.S., with spectators lining the course. The NCTM is limited to a few hundred people and most of it is run on a bike/running trail in the woods with more squirrels around than people.

The second one really fits my personality better -- I like the solitude of running and don't really look externally (to either spectators or other runners) for motivation. Plus I like the idea of just having my wife drop me off and pick me up at the start/finish line without having to contend with enormous pre and post-race crowds. But I've never run a marathon before, and I'm wondering if when I'm hitting the wall at 20 miles (or 18 or even sooner) having a big crowd around will be what helps get me through it.

Any advice on picking a race would be great. Thanks!

 

[Keggers]

GREAT UPDATES EVERYONE!!!

I skipped my Sunday long run (Easter) but did it yesterday. 6 miles at 8:35, 3 miles at 8:00, one mile at 7:30 = 10 total. Felt pretty good throughout and I don't feel sore or tired today. I will do a 3-4 mile recovery today.

 

[pigskinliquors]

Knocked out a really nice workout tonight. Last hard one of the training cycle. Did a 2-mile warmup, then 3 x 1600M at 6:05, 6:03, 6:07 (with 3:30 recovery jogs), then finished it off with another 3+ miles at 7:30 pace, including the last mile at MP (7:13). Total 9 miles in 1:03:26, for an average pace of 7:03. Glad to have it done.

Dude, you got your mojo workin'. You are ready to rock.

Thanks, bro. Other than that one crappy long run, I've been feeling pretty good lately. Not shooting for a PR at Boston, and although I'm already qualified for next year, it would definitely be neat to qualify again at Boston, which would mean going sub-3:10. It's gonna tough with the hills, but I'll give it a shot!

Lot of awesome stuff in here. But I particularly love this idea of running a BQ at Boston. When you cross the finish line, they should just hand you a voucher for next year's race.I need a little advice about picking your first marathon, as tomorrow is registration day for the Marine Corps Marathon. I'm looking at doing either that, or something a month later up in my neck of the woods called the North Central Trail Marathon. They couldn't be more different -- the MCM is tens of thousands of runners, running up and down some of the most famous streets in the U.S., with spectators lining the course. The NCTM is limited to a few hundred people and most of it is run on a bike/running trail in the woods with more squirrels around than people.

The second one really fits my personality better -- I like the solitude of running and don't really look externally (to either spectators or other runners) for motivation. Plus I like the idea of just having my wife drop me off and pick me up at the start/finish line without having to contend with enormous pre and post-race crowds. But I've never run a marathon before, and I'm wondering if when I'm hitting the wall at 20 miles (or 18 or even sooner) having a big crowd around will be what helps get me through it.

Any advice on picking a race would be great. Thanks!

I think you answered your own question. I've run both, and have learned that trails/solitude are unbelievable. Search for posts by Poppa in this thread to get an idea of how amazing they can be. I like people around me during "event" races, but LOVE nobody around me on trails. Finding your own motivation to push yourself is incredibly rewarding.

 

[gruecd]

The second one really fits my personality better -- I like the solitude of running and don't really look externally (to either spectators or other runners) for motivation. Plus I like the idea of just having my wife drop me off and pick me up at the start/finish line without having to contend with enormous pre and post-race crowds. But I've never run a marathon before, and I'm wondering if when I'm hitting the wall at 20 miles (or 18 or even sooner) having a big crowd around will be what helps get me through it.

Any advice on picking a race would be great. Thanks!

Everybody's different, but I think the bolded sentence hits the nail on the head. While I've never run MCM, I would absolutely, unequivocally recommend one of the "megathons" for your first race. There's more to the marathon than just running 26 miles and 385 yards. It's the expo, the pre-race pasta dinner, the crowds, and so much more.Just my two cents, but I definitely say go for the big one!

 

[wraith5]

Thanks, bro. Other than that one crappy long run, I've been feeling pretty good lately. Not shooting for a PR at Boston, and although I'm already qualified for next year, it would definitely be neat to qualify again at Boston, which would mean going sub-3:10. It's gonna tough with the hills, but I'll give it a shot!

Lot of awesome stuff in here. But I particularly love this idea of running a BQ at Boston. When you cross the finish line, they should just hand you a voucher for next year's race.I need a little advice about picking your first marathon, as tomorrow is registration day for the Marine Corps Marathon. I'm looking at doing either that, or something a month later up in my neck of the woods called the North Central Trail Marathon. They couldn't be more different -- the MCM is tens of thousands of runners, running up and down some of the most famous streets in the U.S., with spectators lining the course. The NCTM is limited to a few hundred people and most of it is run on a bike/running trail in the woods with more squirrels around than people.

The second one really fits my personality better -- I like the solitude of running and don't really look externally (to either spectators or other runners) for motivation. Plus I like the idea of just having my wife drop me off and pick me up at the start/finish line without having to contend with enormous pre and post-race crowds. But I've never run a marathon before, and I'm wondering if when I'm hitting the wall at 20 miles (or 18 or even sooner) having a big crowd around will be what helps get me through it.

Any advice on picking a race would be great. Thanks!

I agree about a BQ at Boston - that would be very cool, indeed. Regarding picking a race, personally I'd opt for the MCM for your first. I've never run a really small long-distance race, so truth be told I don't have much frame of reference there, but I have experienced Chicago before, and it is an experience. It was amazing having that kind of support all arund you ALL the time. I think once you're really comfortable with that distance, running a trail race like you described would be awesome.

It was pouring this morning, so I didn't run, but I think I'm going to jet outta work in a few and get my speedwork in.

I did hit the pool at lunch and did 2100 - I'm making improvements and was able to complete a ladder (100, 200, 300, 400, 400, 300, 200, 100, 100). My early lap(s) in each set showed improved stroke count. A couple times I made it in 22 or 23 strokes. But my last laps were back closer to 30. There was a dude there who was making it across the pool in like 13 strokes consistently (I was watching him between sets). He was flying and looked like he wasn't even trying. Sand were you in Arlington Heights, IL today?

 

[tri-man 47]

The_Man, I hear you about the solitude of the trails and I see how that would fit well for you. But I also acknowledge what the others say about the benefits of the crowd support. The safer route would be the MCM. Maybe the best of both worlds is to sign up for the MCM and use the trails for your long training runs (the extra effort of the trails and terrain will help prepare you for easier street running of the MCM).

 

[2Young2BBald]

2Young: I most likely won't be trying Pink Sea Salt, as my non-cramping cure has been Rolaids. Knock on wood, I've never had them (at least bad) when using them pre-race.

Totally forgot about those. Thanks for the timely reminder to take them on Friday Night before Saturday's 1/2!!!!!

 

[BassNBrew]

Yesterday - 2200 yard swim followed by a 5k run over lunch. 32 mile recovery ride in the evening.

Today - 1 hr bike interval class followed by 45 leg/core workout followed by 1/2 bike intervals followed by 1.4 mile run. Legs are cooked!

 

[FUBAR]

Yesterday - 2200 yard swim followed by a 5k run over lunch. 32 mile recovery ride in the evening.Today - 1 hr bike interval class followed by 45 leg/core workout followed by 1/2 bike intervals followed by 1.4 mile run. Legs are cooked!

man I wish I could put the time in like this. that's awesome. I can get long runs/rides/swim in once a day but I can't separate the training like that.

 

[Sand]

Sand were you in Arlington Heights, IL today?

Sorry, Wraith. I was busy swimming the English Channel today. BTW, the best swimmers always look like they aren't working hard. It is all technique (and, no, it isn't easy).Seriously, I went out and rode a group ride today (first time trying that out). Went pretty well. I found out I'm not as bad a climber as I thought I was - I was second up the big hill on this course (300' - pretty steady 4.5% grade). Pretty decent workout. I finished with the strongest of the group once it strung out on the way back. Frankly, I was just happy not to have embarrassed myself by doing something stupid.