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Born to Run said:
How do you handle this situation? At my sprint tri last weekend twice I was passed by riders going slightly faster than me (got passed many times by riders going really fast, but that's a different problem). They moved right after going by me and I end up in drafting position. We were warned at the pre-race meeting that no drafting would be tolerated and 2 minute penalties would be accessed. So I am being sucked right along with them despite being a slower rider. Not much room to move to either side without blocking another rider coming up from behind. I ended up dropping my cadence slightly to get three lengths back and tried to sit there. There is some benefit to drafting at three lengths, but not much.

So what are your experiences with drafting penalties? Does it have to be blatant? Maybe the officials don't care what goes on with those of us who are middle of the pack competitors.
First, one of the things I grown to like about triathlon is the rules and how important it is to compete as an individual (its the foundation of the sport IMO). In my experience, I have only seen drafting penalties assessed at a 1/2 Ironman. Sprint courses do not typically have the size to be properly marshaled for drafting. You will hear it talked about at pre-race briefings and shouted about by some on the course, but rarely if ever enforced.
Not around here. There are always drafting penalties assessed in races. Having said that I don't think I have seen a blatant drafting offense on the course - most riders are clean.
They take it serious here too...TRI LATTA (SAT) TRIATHLON USAT PENALTIES

Bib Penalty Time

26 Placement of Equipment 2:00

39 Run Number 2:00

40 Traffic Laws 2:00

41 Run Number 2:00

61 Run Number 2:00

68 Run Number 2:00

86 Run Number 2:00

112 Run Number 2:00

130 Drafting 2:00

162 Drafting 2:00

236 Run Number 2:00

292 Run Number 2:00

313 Run Number 2:00

355 Drafting 2:00

387 Drafting 2:00

459 Run Number 2:00

524 Run Number 2:00

677 Run Number 2:00

703 Position 2:00

713 Traffic Laws DQ

744 Drafting 2:00

747 Run Number 2:00

757 Drafting 2:00

772 Drafting 2:00

Another event

TRIANGLE TRIATHLON USAT PENALTIES

Bib Penalty Time

9 Run Number 2:00

21 Run Number 2:00

80 Run Number 2:00

182 Unauthorized Accessories 2:00

202 Unauthorized Accessories 2:00

217 Run Number 2:00

349 Run Number 2:00

384 Overtaken 2:00

429 Run Number 2:00

434 Drafting 2:00

443 Run Number 2:00

470 Unsportsmanlike Conduct 2:00

473 Drafting 2:00

493 Run Number 2:00

500 Blocking 2:00

512 Run Number 2:00

587 Run Number 2:00

617 Chinstrap DQ

698 Run Number 2:00

760 Run Number 2:00

791 Run Number 2:00

800 Blocking 2:00

And one more

WHITE LAKE HALF 2010 USAT PENALTIES

Bib Penalty Time

12 Run Number 2:00

406 Run Number 2:00

624 Run Number 2:00

127 Run Number 2:00

642 Run Number 2:00

142 Run Number 2:00

260 Run Number 2:00

18 Drafting 4:00

57 Drafting 4:00

109 Drafting 4:00

173 Unauthorized Accessories 4:00

195 Overtaken 4:00

259 Drafting 4:00

315 Unauthorized Accessories 4:00

315 Drafting 4:00

374 Drafting 4:00

382 Unauthorized Assistance 4:00

403 Unauthorized Assistance 4:00

462 Position 4:00

557 Unauthorized Assistance 4:00

579 Unauthorized Assistance 4:00

650 Position 4:00

658 Unauthorized Accessories 4:00

664 Placement of Equipment 4:00

 
Born to Run said:
How do you handle this situation? At my sprint tri last weekend twice I was passed by riders going slightly faster than me (got passed many times by riders going really fast, but that's a different problem). They moved right after going by me and I end up in drafting position. We were warned at the pre-race meeting that no drafting would be tolerated and 2 minute penalties would be accessed. So I am being sucked right along with them despite being a slower rider. Not much room to move to either side without blocking another rider coming up from behind. I ended up dropping my cadence slightly to get three lengths back and tried to sit there. There is some benefit to drafting at three lengths, but not much.

So what are your experiences with drafting penalties? Does it have to be blatant? Maybe the officials don't care what goes on with those of us who are middle of the pack competitors.
First, one of the things I grown to like about triathlon is the rules and how important it is to compete as an individual (its the foundation of the sport IMO). In my experience, I have only seen drafting penalties assessed at a 1/2 Ironman. Sprint courses do not typically have the size to be properly marshaled for drafting. You will hear it talked about at pre-race briefings and shouted about by some on the course, but rarely if ever enforced.
Not around here. There are always drafting penalties assessed in races. Having said that I don't think I have seen a blatant drafting offense on the course - most riders are clean.
They take it serious here too...TRI LATTA (SAT) TRIATHLON USAT PENALTIES

Bib Penalty Time

26 Placement of Equipment 2:00

39 Run Number 2:00

40 Traffic Laws 2:00

41 Run Number 2:00

61 Run Number 2:00

68 Run Number 2:00

86 Run Number 2:00

112 Run Number 2:00

130 Drafting 2:00

162 Drafting 2:00

236 Run Number 2:00

292 Run Number 2:00

313 Run Number 2:00

355 Drafting 2:00

387 Drafting 2:00

459 Run Number 2:00

524 Run Number 2:00

677 Run Number 2:00

703 Position 2:00

713 Traffic Laws DQ

744 Drafting 2:00

747 Run Number 2:00

757 Drafting 2:00

772 Drafting 2:00

Another event

TRIANGLE TRIATHLON USAT PENALTIES

Bib Penalty Time

9 Run Number 2:00

21 Run Number 2:00

80 Run Number 2:00

182 Unauthorized Accessories 2:00

202 Unauthorized Accessories 2:00

217 Run Number 2:00

349 Run Number 2:00

384 Overtaken 2:00

429 Run Number 2:00

434 Drafting 2:00

443 Run Number 2:00

470 Unsportsmanlike Conduct 2:00

473 Drafting 2:00

493 Run Number 2:00

500 Blocking 2:00

512 Run Number 2:00

587 Run Number 2:00

617 Chinstrap DQ

698 Run Number 2:00

760 Run Number 2:00

791 Run Number 2:00

800 Blocking 2:00

And one more

WHITE LAKE HALF 2010 USAT PENALTIES

Bib Penalty Time

12 Run Number 2:00

406 Run Number 2:00

624 Run Number 2:00

127 Run Number 2:00

642 Run Number 2:00

142 Run Number 2:00

260 Run Number 2:00

18 Drafting 4:00

57 Drafting 4:00

109 Drafting 4:00

173 Unauthorized Accessories 4:00

195 Overtaken 4:00

259 Drafting 4:00

315 Unauthorized Accessories 4:00

315 Drafting 4:00

374 Drafting 4:00

382 Unauthorized Assistance 4:00

403 Unauthorized Assistance 4:00

462 Position 4:00

557 Unauthorized Assistance 4:00

579 Unauthorized Assistance 4:00

650 Position 4:00

658 Unauthorized Accessories 4:00

664 Placement of Equipment 4:00
WOW, are these penalties being handed out by USAT Sanctioned Officials, or are these purely at the discretion of the race director & race staff? Honestly, I'd rather see more handed out around here!
 
Tri-Man - I will definitely be at Bangs Lake. The only question remaining is how I'll be dressed for the occasion... which is still up in the air.
My decoder ring is a little foggy, does it read you are going to be doing another Oly?!
Not confirmed. Since Tri-man and another friend are doing the race, initially I was going to go out and support them, as Tri-man so generously did for my first tri. The more I thought about it, and thought about it, the more I wanted to do the race. However, that will definitely cause some issues on the home front, so I need to proceed with extreme caution. I am now trying to recruit my sister-in-law, who will be in from LA, to do the race (my wife's whole family will be in town, as we are heading up to Lake Geneva for a week on Sunday afternoon). If she commits, it will be a little less dangerous for me to commit. Stay tuned...
 
Born to Run said:
How do you handle this situation? At my sprint tri last weekend twice I was passed by riders going slightly faster than me (got passed many times by riders going really fast, but that's a different problem). They moved right after going by me and I end up in drafting position. We were warned at the pre-race meeting that no drafting would be tolerated and 2 minute penalties would be accessed. So I am being sucked right along with them despite being a slower rider. Not much room to move to either side without blocking another rider coming up from behind. I ended up dropping my cadence slightly to get three lengths back and tried to sit there. There is some benefit to drafting at three lengths, but not much.

So what are your experiences with drafting penalties? Does it have to be blatant? Maybe the officials don't care what goes on with those of us who are middle of the pack competitors.
How do I handle it??? I drop the hammer on anyone foolish enough to dream that large and relegate them back to their rightful position to enjoy the view from behind. The gals in the third trimester and pre-teens that somehow didn't manage to pass me in the swim don't usually put up much of a fuss. :flex:Here are the rules. http://www.3-fitness.com/tarticles/drafting.htm

Basically once you are passed it is your responsibility to drop back. You must do this before re-passing.

 
WOW, are these penalties being handed out by USAT Sanctioned Officials, or are these purely at the discretion of the race director & race staff? Honestly, I'd rather see more handed out around here!
Mostly USAT officials but propbably the staff when it comes to run numbers.http://www.setupevents.com/ They take triathlon very seriously around here. This group alone handles 50+ races each year. From March thru Sept there's pretty much a tri every weekend. Sometimes events are both Sat and Sun and often two different events on the same day.

 
Interesting list of USAT penalties BassNBrew. Most are obvious, but there are a bunch listed as Run Number. Would that be something like cutting the course or pushing a fellow competitor? Can't think of anything for Overtaken and what are people bringing that are Unauthorized Accessories?

 
Interesting list of USAT penalties BassNBrew. Most are obvious, but there are a bunch listed as Run Number. Would that be something like cutting the course or pushing a fellow competitor? Can't think of anything for Overtaken and what are people bringing that are Unauthorized Accessories?
Run Number - People have the race belt on backwards or forgot it when they left T2. This is why I use spray adhesive and rock the number the whole way.Overtaken - Not dropping back after being passed.

UA Accessories - Probably ipods.

eta: The funniest one I've seen is indescent exposure. Turns out the race went thru a neighborhood so shirtness running was prohibited at this event.

 
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Interesting list of USAT penalties BassNBrew. Most are obvious, but there are a bunch listed as Run Number. Would that be something like cutting the course or pushing a fellow competitor? Can't think of anything for Overtaken and what are people bringing that are Unauthorized Accessories?
I'm gonna guess that the Unauthorized Accessory is an iPod/MP3. For race number, you have to be "bibbed" up for the run and, I think, the race number has to face forward (I'd have to check). Overtaken means you didn't drop back enough in the proper time frame after being passed (overtaken). Anyone know how one would become a USAT official? This area could sure use a few and I am now way interested in the process (heading to Goggle up some info).

eta, or maybe I'll just continue to race and volunteer.....

 
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Mrs. K did her 17-miler this morning and I had to pick our son up from church camp in the mid-morning, so I didn't get to run until around 1:30 or so. This made for a good hot/steamy 5 miles. I definitely wouldn't want to have to go long in these temps, but it's probably good conditioning.

 
Haven't checked in here in ages.

Started training this week for the NYC Marathon in November. 15 weeks until race day and I'm ramping up my weekly mileage to 40 this week. 8 miles (with 4 at tempo) tonight, 4 miles Saturday and 14 on Sunday.

With all of my work this spring, I'm shooting for a 3:35 this fall.

 
I know this may border on NTTAWWT, but I know you guys will have opinions: I need to tighten up my core a bit (maybe a touch more than a bit). I'm probably at 16-17% body fat right now, so is the best way just to drop a few pounds, or will incorporating more core workout time be more effective?
I'm in the same boat, as I'm ready to see my abs again. Core workout is necessary, but it has to be combined with a great diet (my problem). Reducing fat, and increasing protein are a good place to start. My problem is that I'd have to stop drinking beer to get to where I want to get. That's not likely to happen :thumbdown: Workhorse: Great schedule facing you!
 
Haven't checked in here in ages.Started training this week for the NYC Marathon in November. 15 weeks until race day and I'm ramping up my weekly mileage to 40 this week. 8 miles (with 4 at tempo) tonight, 4 miles Saturday and 14 on Sunday.With all of my work this spring, I'm shooting for a 3:35 this fall.
Good luck. What training plan are you using?
 
Good Lord. Now we're talking triathlon rules infractions!? :lmao:
Once you start doing tri's you are going to need to know these rules. Everyone and their brother is going to want to draft of you! Especially now that you are in a 64 cm bike :lmao: edited to add: This morning I did another 4 mile run in 80 degrees + 90% humidity. As anticipated it was really ugly. I ran 8:52, 8:41, 8:29, 8:13. My HR was all the way up to 176 during the final mile. I have no clue how I'm going to finish my run on Sunday, without blowing a gasket coming in. It's predicted to be slightly warmer, just as humid, and very hilly. Ay dios mio.

Tomorrow I'll be doing a very short swim, just working on technique, followed by a restful Saturday. I have decided to spend the night in the race city (2:15 minutes away), which should make logistics in the morning MUCH easier. I had it calculated that I'd have to get up approximately 1 hour before I went to bed had I stayed at home :banned:

 
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Haven't checked in here in ages.Started training this week for the NYC Marathon in November. 15 weeks until race day and I'm ramping up my weekly mileage to 40 this week. 8 miles (with 4 at tempo) tonight, 4 miles Saturday and 14 on Sunday.With all of my work this spring, I'm shooting for a 3:35 this fall.
Sounds good Workhorse! With that HM time, seems like 3:35 would definitely be possible.
 
Good Lord. Now we're talking triathlon rules infractions!? :rolleyes:
Once you start doing tri's you are going to need to know these rules. Everyone and their brother is going to want to draft of you! Especially now that you are in a 64 cm bike :fishing:
Riding behind big guys is heaven on earth. I'm pretty sure I could just kick my legs up on the handlebars, lean back, and get sucked along for miles.Interesting tidbit I learned about drafting the other day. In a paceline the 3rd person back gets a 40% break in energy expended, the 2nd gets 33%, the 1st back gets 25%, and the guy in front gets a 3% boost. Pretty cool - you're in front humping for the guys behind and they actually give you a bit of a boost just by being back there.

 
Good Lord. Now we're talking triathlon rules infractions!? :rolleyes:
Once you start doing tri's you are going to need to know these rules. Everyone and their brother is going to want to draft of you! Especially now that you are in a 64 cm bike :fishing:
Riding behind big guys is heaven on earth. I'm pretty sure I could just kick my legs up on the handlebars, lean back, and get sucked along for miles.Interesting tidbit I learned about drafting the other day. In a paceline the 3rd person back gets a 40% break in energy expended, the 2nd gets 33%, the 1st back gets 25%, and the guy in front gets a 3% boost. Pretty cool - you're in front humping for the guys behind and they actually give you a bit of a boost just by being back there.
I did not know that! Way cool.
 
Tri-Man - I will definitely be at Bangs Lake. The only question remaining is how I'll be dressed for the occasion... which is still up in the air.
Well, let me know. I can ask the aid stations on the run to hold a Gu for when you come through ... :rolleyes:
:lmao: You think you will have caught up to me by then?
:hophead: To quote liquors' daughter: "It's on like Donkey Kong!" (do 'on' and 'kong' rhyme?) High risk/reward for you - either a crappy start to your vacation, or the chance to tell little Wraith that you schooled that "Dad, look - it's tri-man!" fellow. But if your SIL is hot, I'll just ignore you and follow her around the course. [Tri-Man: A game the whole family can play!]
 
Could have sworn there was a running thread here on the FFA somewhere. But all I can find is this damned Tri thread......
:DAt least it's something to talk during the running off season. In six months when the lakes are frozen over we get back to the excitement of re-living one another's treadmill run.
 
Haven't checked in here in ages.Started training this week for the NYC Marathon in November. 15 weeks until race day and I'm ramping up my weekly mileage to 40 this week. 8 miles (with 4 at tempo) tonight, 4 miles Saturday and 14 on Sunday.With all of my work this spring, I'm shooting for a 3:35 this fall.
Sounds good Workhorse! With that HM time, seems like 3:35 would definitely be possible.
I hope so. I'm convinced that if I had run a more strategic marathon in January, I'd have broken 3:40 but bonked hard with about 5k left. With all the speedwork I've done in the past 6 months, I know that I can run a sub-1:40 half now. Aiming for that mark in the early fall.
 
Haven't checked in in awhile now, been moving to Virginia. Doing the Charlottesville International Tri Sunday, I'll like that it ends with a trail run. Doesn't look like a big turnout, around 170 total, should be fun.

Trained pretty good for 2 weeks then this week has been almost an off-week, ran 6 Monday, wife's doctor's appointment and ultrasound Tuesday, 9 hours in the car Wednesday, ran 5 today while pushing my 2 year old who woke up 2 hours earlier than usual :lmao: it's amazing how much a difference that makes when running hills.

 
Could have sworn there was a running thread here on the FFA somewhere. But all I can find is this damned Tri thread......
:thumbup: ;) 11 miles tonight at 7:51 pace. But enough with this ####### humidity, already!!! :rant:
Of course what you and I do is almost two entirely different sports, too. I plod along with little attention paid to pace, just picking my way through roots, rocks, water, walking up hills and usually running down them, even stopping on occasion to take pictures or just soak in the view. Meanwhile you have your 1/16 mile split goals for each of your 4-times daily runs, and they're all planned out from here through the end of the year! Trust me, I admire your dedication and discipline. Just under 4 miles, pretty much all on roads (which sucked) this afternoon. I usually run in the mornings, but wanted to run in the heat a little to experience what I'm likely to hit on Saturday over in the East Bay. Of course 80 degrees without much humidity is nothing compared to what a lot of you guys have been facing, but I was indeed a sweaty mess after just 36 minutes out there!
 
Tri-Man - I will definitely be at Bangs Lake. The only question remaining is how I'll be dressed for the occasion... which is still up in the air.
Well, let me know. I can ask the aid stations on the run to hold a Gu for when you come through ... :rolleyes:
:lmao: You think you will have caught up to me by then?
:hophead: To quote liquors' daughter: "It's on like Donkey Kong!" (do 'on' and 'kong' rhyme?) High risk/reward for you - either a crappy start to your vacation, or the chance to tell little Wraith that you schooled that "Dad, look - it's tri-man!" fellow. But if your SIL is hot, I'll just ignore you and follow her around the course. [Tri-Man: A game the whole family can play!]
The risk is all on you, GB. No one in their right mind expects me to beat your time. For me, I get to do another Oly AND race with you - win/win! Looks like she's not going to race now though - hopefully she'll still come out to see the finish.
 
Woke up this morning and needed exercise, so I went for a 9 mile ride. It was cool out but very humid. I was also able to scout out some new running routes, plus I found a nice hill to do some hill repeats. The hill is not as high or long as the hills I will be running in October, but it has a similar incline. It is also only a couple miles from home so I can get in a nice warm-up run getting to the hill.

Nothing else until tomorrow mornings 6 miler.

 
This morning, I was up before most normal folks and was inspired to try doing a Grue-like run. I did 10 miles at 8:49 per mile. For me right now, that is grue-like. No one else was around and it was pretty nice to run without having to pass people. Temp started at 77 and humidity was through the roof, but just went out and did the miles. Stopped every now and then to take in some fluids, but for me it was a good run.

 
This is a great thread, very informative and lots of friendly support. :thumbdown:

I'm going to sign up for the Amica marathon in Newport, RI. Has anybody here run this event? I'm also running a local 20K in Sept. as part of the training for the marathon.

I ran cross country in high school, have averaged about one 5K road race a year since then (with the accompanying ~month of training in advance), and play soccer semi-regularly. This will be my first marathon and though in decent shape, I don't have much of a long distance base.

I'm following Hal Higdon's novice training plan, did a 5 mile run at 8:30 pace yesterday evening and have a 10 mile run this weekend.

 
This is a great thread, very informative and lots of friendly support. :thumbup:

I'm going to sign up for the Amica marathon in Newport, RI. Has anybody here run this event? I'm also running a local 20K in Sept. as part of the training for the marathon.

I ran cross country in high school, have averaged about one 5K road race a year since then (with the accompanying ~month of training in advance), and play soccer semi-regularly. This will be my first marathon and though in decent shape, I don't have much of a long distance base.

I'm following Hal Higdon's novice training plan, did a 5 mile run at 8:30 pace yesterday evening and have a 10 mile run this weekend.
Good luck with training and be sure to keep posting.
 
Well 98 degrees and 70% humidity did me in last nite. Ran the first 4 miles around a 9 min pace and the last two slow enough to drop the overall pace to 10'09". Actually had to do the run/walk thing at the end since I felt like I was going to puke. Followed that up with a mile OWS and then an easy 1.35 mile jog home. Lost 7 lbs over the course of this workout.

Pretty much decided that I'm going to take this weekend off from racing. 85 degrees and 70% hunidity doesn't make for good race conditions and it's been a hard training week.

 
wraith5 said:
Looks like she's not going to race now though - hopefully she'll still come out to see the finish.
Fear the Wraith. I'm sure it's all psychologically based fear, but as I tried to run a couple miles this morning to see if my still-slightly sore calf muscles were OK ...my lower right calf tightened up painfully bad. I had to limp the last half-mile home. Bottom line: I'm shutting things down for a few weeks to let the calves heal. I haven't been training properly since the recent tri, and now I know I won't be able to. I don't want to create a lingering injury that jeopardizes the fall relay or, beyond that, my Boston training. I can coordinate things with the Chicago RnR guys (and drive you guys down so you don't have to pay for parking), but I won't race that or the next tri. :thumbup: :cry: :thumbup: :thumbup:

 
wraith5 said:
Looks like she's not going to race now though - hopefully she'll still come out to see the finish.
Fear the Wraith. I'm sure it's all psychologically based fear, but as I tried to run a couple miles this morning to see if my still-slightly sore calf muscles were OK ...my lower right calf tightened up painfully bad. I had to limp the last half-mile home. Bottom line: I'm shutting things down for a few weeks to let the calves heal. I haven't been training properly since the recent tri, and now I know I won't be able to. I don't want to create a lingering injury that jeopardizes the fall relay or, beyond that, my Boston training. I can coordinate things with the Chicago RnR guys (and drive you guys down so you don't have to pay for parking), but I won't race that or the next tri. :ptts: :cry: :rant: :kicksrock:
Way to ruin my weekend before it even starts.... ;) Seriously, dude, that sucks. But I hope you heal well, and I look forward to seeing you next weekend regardless!

 
Tri-Man: smart to shut it down, but it sucks. I recommend some water runs to keep your fitness. Us old guys lose it too quickly to shut down all the way. Also, my 8 year old fully believes that "on" and "donkey kong" rhyme = I'm not putting a poll on here that could potentially crush her reality.

BnB: Another brutal workout! For my runs, the 70% humidity mark seems to be the barrier right now. I don't mind 95 with 65; but 85 at 75 = I'm going to struggle.

D_House: welcome to the thread. A big advantage to posting in here is that we'll not only pretend to be able to give you advice, but we'll also ridicule you into doing workouts that you might find a way to skip. Post your workouts in here regardless of how uneventful they are, to keep yourself accountable.

Darrin: Having a hill that close is awesome! Go get it!

Wraith: Go get him!

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My Update:

I'm on my mini-taper. I'm already peeing clear, and am working on keeping that going 'til Sunday. Today I'll have a really short swim, just working on form, and doing some practice sighting. Tomorrow I'll get all my gear ready, and might even practice my transitions, prior to driving to the race sight to pick up my packet. I do have lunch and happy hour dates today, though I'm not expecting any "exercise" from either of them.

 
BnB: Another brutal workout! For my runs, the 70% humidity mark seems to be the barrier right now. I don't mind 95 with 65; but 85 at 75 = I'm going to struggle.
For me it's the temperature. Low 90's seem OK but the upper 90's do me in. Last night the heat radiating from the pavement felt like a sauna. Wish I could trail run but it's too much of an injury risk to get in a good run.Good luck on Sunday.
 
30 mile bike this morning, still trying to find a decent route. Country roads are alright but the narrow winding portions elevate the heartrate for the wrong reasons. averaged 19mph which considering how much I had to deal with traffic I'm happy with. The portions where I was able to ride well went between 22-25 mph.

 
30 mile bike this morning, still trying to find a decent route. Country roads are alright but the narrow winding portions elevate the heartrate for the wrong reasons. averaged 19mph which considering how much I had to deal with traffic I'm happy with. The portions where I was able to ride well went between 22-25 mph.
Fubar: try Map My Ride. Great place to find rides in your area, and to create your own routes.
 
30 mile bike this morning, still trying to find a decent route. Country roads are alright but the narrow winding portions elevate the heartrate for the wrong reasons. averaged 19mph which considering how much I had to deal with traffic I'm happy with. The portions where I was able to ride well went between 22-25 mph.
Fubar: try Map My Ride. Great place to find rides in your area, and to create your own routes.
I have, and they pretty much all require driving 20-30 minutes before biking. One route seems decent but it's still on a 2 lane narrow, winding 45 mph road for 5+ miles.
 
Darrin: Keep up the great work. Sounds like you're really doing well.

D_House: Welcome! You sound like you're pretty much where I was when I joined this thread last summer (or even ahead - I never imagined training for a marathon until the peer pressure around here got to me). I have a feeling that soon enough you'll be hearing about something called the Bourbon Chase.

PMB: Very strong effort considering the conditions. Just keep putting in those miles and it will all pay off when the weather turns.

BnB: Good workout. And better call on not racing this weekend in these conditions.

Tri-Man: Sorry to hear the news. But you're absolutely making the right decision. You might even come back feeling rejuvenated.

PSL: Good luck in the race. You might want to look into buying your own minivan so that you'll always have one at your disposal and won't have to rely on your dates.

FUBAR: Insert your own biking-related comment here, since I have no idea what any of that stuff means. Are you moving into Charlottesville? Great town.

Have a great weekend.

 
wraith5 said:
Looks like she's not going to race now though - hopefully she'll still come out to see the finish.
Fear the Wraith. I'm sure it's all psychologically based fear, but as I tried to run a couple miles this morning to see if my still-slightly sore calf muscles were OK ...my lower right calf tightened up painfully bad. I had to limp the last half-mile home. Bottom line: I'm shutting things down for a few weeks to let the calves heal. I haven't been training properly since the recent tri, and now I know I won't be able to. I don't want to create a lingering injury that jeopardizes the fall relay or, beyond that, my Boston training. I can coordinate things with the Chicago RnR guys (and drive you guys down so you don't have to pay for parking), but I won't race that or the next tri. :rolleyes: :cry: :shrug: :thumbup:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I seriously can't describe how terrible this news is. Racing you back-to-back, now nothing?!?? Maybe you'll feel better with a couple of days rest and some stretching & icing. I refuse to jump on board the "you're being smart" train - I want you racing, Bud!!!

Anyway, I did one of the more interesting tempo runs on the FIRST schedule today - 2 easy (9:10 target), 3 short tempo (7:35 target), 1 recovery. I had some trouble staying above 9s for the first 2 miles (ave 9:05s) and did 7:33s for the tempo portion (7:30s first 1/2, 7:36s back 1/2). It was 72 degrees and overcast for most of the run, but 90% humidity.

It was May 20 when I did this run and averaged 7:03s for the tempo. That seems like forever ago, and that speed feels completely out of reach right now.

 
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Riding behind big guys is heaven on earth. I'm pretty sure I could just kick my legs up on the handlebars, lean back, and get sucked along for miles.
I'd handle this the same way I handle it when people try drafting off me when I'm running. If they don't want to take their turn, I just step on the brake. They learn.
 

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