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Ran a 10k in June (5 Viewers)

One possibility is to ask the shop if you pay for a complete fitting if they'll spend 10 minutes getting you close now and you can come back for a full fitting in a couple of weeks. I'd hate for you to ride in a position that causes injury, but I know from experience that a couple of weeks riding in TT position makes a world of difference in the comfort.
:goodposting: My position changes (gets better) with the more time I get on my bike. I typically stay off my tri-bike until training for a tri (usually only 2x per year), and am always incredibly sore on my first few rides, as I can't get myself into position without stretching muscles that I haven't used in awhile.
 
10-1: 3.1 mi @ 8'16", 25'40", 150 hr 10-2: 3.3 mi, 30'55", 134 hr + 22 mi bike 10-3: 5.6 mi @ 7'44" (gps was off), 43'24", 138 hr 10-4: off 10-5: 3.1 mi @ 8'09", 25'02", 140 hr 10-6: 3.1 mi @ 9'09", 28'40", 127 hr 10-7: 4 mi @ 9'40", 38'43", 140 hr

10-8: 3.5 mi @ 9'31", 33'20", 130 hr 10-9: 2.2 mi @ 9'00", 20'00", 135 hr 10-10: 3.1 mi @ 8'54", 27'36", 141 hr AND 3.2 mi @ 8'47", 141 hr 10-11: 9.0 mi @ 8'59", 1:20'43", 138 hr 10-12: 3.21 @ 9'38", 30'56", 131 hr 10-12: 4 mi @ 8'24", 33'35", 142 hr 10-13: 3.1 @ 9'58", 30'49", 132 hr 10-14: 22 mi bike ride + 3.31 mi @ 9'15", 30'36", 136 hr 10-15: 3 mi @ 8'42", 26'10", 140 hr 10-16: 2.14 mi @ 9'43", 20'42", 140 hr 10-17: 3 mi @ 9'27", 28'21", 134 hr 10-18: 4 mi @ 8'39", 34'35", 131 hr 10-18: 2 mi @ 10'32", 21'03", 120 hr 10-19: 3.5 mi @ 9'45", 34'08", 128 hr 10-20: off 10-21: 15 mi bike ride, 5 min run which doesn't count 10-22: 3.11 mi @ 7'43", 23'58", 150 hr 10-23: 2.76 mi @ 8'5", 24'31", 132 hr plus 38 mi bike ride 10-24: 2 mi @ 10'00" and 4.5 mi @ 8'36", 38'43", 134 hr 10-25: 2.6 mi @ 10'23", 27'00", 123 hr 10-26: 3 mi @ 9'20", 27'58", 124 hr 10-27: 3.1 mi @ 8'25", 26'02", 139 hr 10-28: off 10-29: 2.55 mi @ 7'51", 20'00", 145 hr 10-30: off 10-31: off 29 runs in 31 days, 96.97 miles for October 11-1: 3.1 mi @ 7'45", 23'58", 147 hr 11-2: 7.0 mi @ 8'16", 57'53", 144 hr 11-3: 5.49 mi @ 9'21", 51'25", 147 hr - trail run 11-4: 2.0 mi @ 10'00", 114 hr 11-5: 10.01 mi @ 8'53", 1:28'53", 138 hr 11-6: 5 mi @ 9'02", 45'08", 139 hr - trail run 11-6: 2 mi @ 10'29", 20'55", 124 hr 11-7: 2.26 mi @ 9'11", 20'42", 139 hr 11-8: 3.1 mi @ 8'23", 25'56", 144 hr followed by 11-8: 22.4 mi computrainer bike ride, 1:01'28, 256 average watts, 151 hr 11-8: 1.87 mi, 20 min 11-9: off 11-10: 2 mi @ 10'00", 20'00" 11-11: off 11-12: 2.48 mi @ 9'00", 22'18" 11-13: 3.1 mi @ 8'29", 26'18, 153 hr 11-13: 2 mi @ 10'41", 21'23" 11-14: 13.1 @ 8'42", 1:54:04, 147 hr 11-15: 1.8 mi, 20 mi 11-15: 25 bike, 1:11:45, 226 watts, 143 hr 11-15: 1.86 mi @ 10'45", 20'00", 131 hr 11-16: 2.2 mi, 21'31", 123 hr 11-16: 18 mi computrainer bike, 1:06:32, 136 hr 11-17: 7.01 mi @ 8'59", 1:02:52, 132 hr 11-18: 2.1 mi, 20'00", 119 hr 11-18: 18 mi computrainer bike, 56'12", 256 watts, 136 hr 11-19: off 11-20: 3.2 mi @ 8'44", 27'55", 139 hr and 2.5 mi @ 8'49", 22'06", hr 138 11-21: 2.17 mi @ 9'15", 20'05", 125 hr 11-22: 20.3 mi computrainer bike ride, 56'26", 258 average watts, 153 hr

11-23: 2.1 mi @ 9'50", 20'00", 120 hr and 2.65 mi @ 9'13", 24'50", 140 hr and 21.6 mi computrainer bike ride, 59'55", 233 average watts, 144 hr 11-24: 2.55 mi @ 9'19, 23'44", 122 hr 11-25: 5.0 mi @ 9'39, 48'17", 132 hr 11-26: off (indoor soccer) 11-27: 2.3 mi, 20'00" 11-28: 1.8 mi, 20'00" 11-29: off

11-30: 2.1 mi @ 9'30", 20'00", 130 hr 11-30: 21.6 mi computrainer bike ride, 56'47", 160 watts, 155 hr 11-30: 1.9 mi @ 10'30", 20'00", 123 hr 11-30: 2.25 mi @ 11:06, 25'00", 123 hr 12-1: off 12-2: 2.1 mi run, 20'00" followed by 25 mi bike 12-3: off 12-4: 42.6 mi bike, 1:57, 138 hr, 225 watts followed 3.1 mile run @ 8'19" pace, 25'48", 146 hr 12-5: 3.1 mi run @ 7'28" pace, 23'03", 156 hr 12-6: 2.1 mi run @ 9'45, 20'00", 118 hr followed by 18 mi bike, 1hr, 123 hr followed by 2.1 mi run @ 9'45" pace, 20'00", 118 hr 12-7: 2.2 mile run @ 9'30" pace, 20'00" 12-8: 22 mi bike, 1:10, 127 hr, 200 watts followed by 2 mi run @ 10'00 pace, 20'00", 121 hr 12-9: off 12-10: 2.34 @ 8'40", 20'20", 143 hr 12-11: off 12-12: 2 mi @ 10'00", 20'00" 12-13: 2.2 mi, 20'00", 124 hr 12-14: off 12-15: 2.1 mi, 20'00", 2.1 mi, 20'00", 2.0 mi, 20'00"; 11 mi bike, 20, mi, 283 watts 12-16: off 12-17: 2.64 mi @ 8'08", 21'34", 150 hr 12-18: 13.1 mi @ 9'02", 1:58'28", 141 hr 12-19: 10.1 mi @ 9'21", 1:34'25", 130 hr 12-20: 2.5 mi, 20'00" 12-20: 2.3 mi, 20 min 12-21: 24 mi computrainer bike, 1h 9m, 261 watts, 145 average hr followed by 2 mi, 20 min run 12-22: off 12-23: 12 mi computrainer bike, 45 min, 304 watts, 152 hr followed by 2.25 run @ 8'45", 20 min, 144 hr 12-24: 2.3 min, 20 min, 136 hr 12-25: off 12-26: off 12-27: off 12-28: 2 mi, 20 min and 2 mi, 20 min

12-29: 2.1 mi, 20 min

12-30: 2.1 mi, 20 min and 2.2, 20 min

12-31: 2.4 mi, 20 min and 2.25 mi, 20 min

1-1: 2 mi, 20 min

1-2: 2.4 mi, 20 min and 2.2 mi, 20 min

1-3: 2.1 mi, 20 min

92 runs in 95 days

 
Well the end is in sight for 100 runs in 100 days. I'll need to do 8 runs in the next 5 days to hit the century mark. I've been pushing through the knee issue and it's getting better. I've been doing leg extensions in the gym 6 of the last 7 days which seems to help and keeping the runs at 20 minutes in duration. Also got through two cycles of every body part in the gym which has been encouraging.

Came out of the holidays at 224 which is 4 pounds less than last year but 9 pounds over my target.

 
Looks like it's a Galloway thing. See The Pace Booster workout on this page. The difference is that you're jogging instead of walking the recovery 30.
Bottom line - that's it ...hard 30 seconds, then jog real easy for 30 while the heart keeps pumping hard at first then settles just a bit before the next cycle starts. Hold nothing back on the hard 30's; put no effort into the recovery 30's. I suspect that part of the idea of jogging instead of walking or stopping is that it's easier on the legs and feet to go into and out of a jog than it would be to 'break' hard and then push off again.
 
Hammy feels slightly better, but I can still tell there's something goin on back there. So I did the chest/back/ab ripper from p90x today instead of running. Holy friggin' crap :X
:bye: I did the Chest/Back and Ab ripper last night as well.
Dude, I did abs on Sunday morning for the first time in a long time, and they still hurt. Seriously, it hurts to cough. Apparently I need to focus a little more on my core....
 
Hammy feels slightly better, but I can still tell there's something goin on back there. So I did the chest/back/ab ripper from p90x today instead of running. Holy friggin' crap :X
:bye: I did the Chest/Back and Ab ripper last night as well.
Dude, I did abs on Sunday morning for the first time in a long time, and they still hurt. Seriously, it hurts to cough. Apparently I need to focus a little more on my core....
I was showing off a little too much on the leg press on Sunday and now know what Jenna Jamision must feel like after coming back to work after a long vacation.
 
As hard as my 2 mile run was on Sunday, the 3 miler today was that easy.

I did the first mile in 10:15 then the last 2 at 9:59 each, and I felt like I was cruisin. I will know on Friday how much weight I gained over the holidays. I went in at 230.5. I am thinking it may not be too much because all my clothes still fit about the same.

 
Got a sports massage today. They guy focused on the IT Band. He said it was definitely tight. He worked it but I have to say the pain wasn't bad at all.

He gave me some "BioFreeze" pain relieving gel. I'm going to keep doing stretches....the roller.....and see how Sunday goes. I'll also be taking some anti-inflammatory drugs from now until about 12 hours before the race.

Going to pack tonight....leaving Friday AM. But I'm going nuts waiting. I can't even just go for a 2 mile run to calm the nerves. I also am feeling fat. Oh well.

 
As hard as my 2 mile run was on Sunday, the 3 miler today was that easy. I did the first mile in 10:15 then the last 2 at 9:59 each, and I felt like I was cruisin. I will know on Friday how much weight I gained over the holidays. I went in at 230.5. I am thinking it may not be too much because all my clothes still fit about the same.
I gained 6 lbs over the holidays :wub:
 
Got a sports massage today. They guy focused on the IT Band. He said it was definitely tight. He worked it but I have to say the pain wasn't bad at all. He gave me some "BioFreeze" pain relieving gel. I'm going to keep doing stretches....the roller.....and see how Sunday goes. I'll also be taking some anti-inflammatory drugs from now until about 12 hours before the race.Going to pack tonight....leaving Friday AM. But I'm going nuts waiting. I can't even just go for a 2 mile run to calm the nerves. I also am feeling fat. Oh well.
Good luck man. I hope it all goes well for you. :wub:
 
Got a sports massage today. They guy focused on the IT Band. He said it was definitely tight. He worked it but I have to say the pain wasn't bad at all. He gave me some "BioFreeze" pain relieving gel. I'm going to keep doing stretches....the roller.....and see how Sunday goes. I'll also be taking some anti-inflammatory drugs from now until about 12 hours before the race.Going to pack tonight....leaving Friday AM. But I'm going nuts waiting. I can't even just go for a 2 mile run to calm the nerves. I also am feeling fat. Oh well.
Fingers crossed for you!So you're going nuts and feeling fat? Welcome to the normal taper. Trust your training.
 
Got a sports massage today. They guy focused on the IT Band. He said it was definitely tight. He worked it but I have to say the pain wasn't bad at all. He gave me some "BioFreeze" pain relieving gel. I'm going to keep doing stretches....the roller.....and see how Sunday goes. I'll also be taking some anti-inflammatory drugs from now until about 12 hours before the race.Going to pack tonight....leaving Friday AM. But I'm going nuts waiting. I can't even just go for a 2 mile run to calm the nerves. I also am feeling fat. Oh well.
Good luck man. I hope it all goes well for you. :goodposting:
Thanks. I'll post on Sunday about how my first marathon went. Hopefully its good news.
 
Got a sports massage today. They guy focused on the IT Band. He said it was definitely tight. He worked it but I have to say the pain wasn't bad at all. He gave me some "BioFreeze" pain relieving gel. I'm going to keep doing stretches....the roller.....and see how Sunday goes. I'll also be taking some anti-inflammatory drugs from now until about 12 hours before the race.Going to pack tonight....leaving Friday AM. But I'm going nuts waiting. I can't even just go for a 2 mile run to calm the nerves. I also am feeling fat. Oh well.
Good luck man. I hope it all goes well for you. :goodposting:
Thanks. I'll post on Sunday about how my first marathon went. Hopefully its good news.
Good luck!
 
8 miles for me last night with 10 x 100m strides. Getting back into this thing is a little tough. I thought I had kept up my fitness level pretty well, but apparently I have not. I will get back in the full swing in a week or two. I am dragging though. I guess I need more sleep. Maybe I should just start sleeping at work.

Have a great day all.

 
I was showing off a little too much on the leg press on Sunday and now know what Jenna Jamision must feel like after coming back to work after a long vacation.
:unsure: Does JJ take vacations from her "work?"
I gained 6 lbs over the holidays :shrug:
I gained 11 :bag: Grue: my ab's are also screaming at me, letting me know that I really need to re-focus on my core.Last night was my Plyometrics for PX, and I loved the workout. Enough lunges to almost make Tri-Man tear up which would be awesome bc TM's tears cure cancer (unfortunately he's never cried). I'm only 2 days into P90, and am excited about making it part of my "routine."edited to add: Best of luck Steel Curtain! It's almost Go time!
 
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Favorite race: Waco Olympic Triathlon. The course was amazing. Best swim, bike and run courses I've seen in a tri. This was my first time in the event (just 90 miles from my home), but I plan on now making this my go to race every year. While I was disappointed in my swim (where I almost drowned!), I kicked the bike an run portion's asses!

Favorite moment within a race: Having my daughters cheering for me right at the end of the bike stage of the Conroe HIM. I had zero clue that they would be there. It was indescribable.

Most disappointing race: It's hard to say "disappointing" as I went quite a bit further than I thought I could, but my only race I wasn't fully proud of was the Conroe HIM. Only reason it was disappointing is bc I was only able to run 7 of the 13.1 miles due to injury. Yet, the swim was a PR, and I had an excellent bike; while heading into it I didn't even expect to attempt the run.

Best workout (whether due to location or pure quality): Running to the top of Diamond Head in Hawaii.

Oddest workout moment: Running in Taiwan, as Typhoon Fanapi hit the Island. It was euphoric yet surreal.

Funniest experience in training or a race: watching my buddy try to clip into a bike for a ride, after drinking for 5 straight hours after we completed his first half marathon (I ran it with him). He attempted 5x with zero success. Falling straight onto his side with each attempt. I almost wet myself lol.

Best memory of one of the other guy's experiences this year: This one's tough. I loved tracking Gruecd at Boston, and Tri's successful attempt at Boston, but I LOVE reading all of Poppa's reports (for the sure pleasure) and all of Boston Fred's reports (for their hilarity).

Proudest achievement of the year: Taking first in my AG, and 4th overall in the Dansby Duathlon.

Specific goal for the year ahead: 1) Gain overall body strength (especially legs) and retain it, 2) Complete a HIM, 3) Have myself ready to BQ in early 2012 (I had hoped to qualify in 2011, but don't think I'll be running a marathon this year).

 
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8 miles for me last night with 10 x 100m strides. Getting back into this thing is a little tough. I thought I had kept up my fitness level pretty well, but apparently I have not. I will get back in the full swing in a week or two. I am dragging though. I guess I need more sleep. Maybe I should just start sleeping at work.Have a great day all.
I hear you. It's been a major struggle for me to get back out there. Took 10 days off from Dec. 19-29 and only was doing 15 mpw for most of November and December before that. Fat and slow and out of motivation.I finally forced myself to get out there and run 5 this a.m. It was pretty bad, but I'm hoping it's gotten me going again. 7 weeks ago I ran 5 miles at a 146 HR and did it at an 8:01 pace. Today I again had a 146 HR - and an 8:29 pace. F me. Starting the Pfitz 18/55 on Monday and I'm not sure I'm really in shape for it - going to try it anyway though.
 
8 miles yesterday, and 8 miles today with 6 miles at 8:03/mile pace.

BTW, on last week's longer runs: The 12 miler (8:35/mi) averaged a 145 HR, and the 15 miler (8:34/mi) averaged 151 HR. I'll be monitoring the HR carefully, now that I've got the Garmin. I do not have a good feel as to where the rate should be since I haven't been monitoring this over recent years. Advice and context are welcomed.

 
8 miles yesterday, and 8 miles today with 6 miles at 8:03/mile pace.

BTW, on last week's longer runs: The 12 miler (8:35/mi) averaged a 145 HR, and the 15 miler (8:34/mi) averaged 151 HR. I'll be monitoring the HR carefully, now that I've got the Garmin. I do not have a good feel as to where the rate should be since I haven't been monitoring this over recent years. Advice and context are welcomed.
Go to this site and download the Heart Rate Calculator excel spread sheet. Once you know and plug in your HR max and resting HR, it will give you a range of HR training zones. It's not exact, but it will give you a ballpark. BTW, those are some kick-### paces for your long runs. Wow.
 
Warrior Dash Registration is back up and I am REGISTERED for the Michigan event on 7/30 (Dexter & TH, I am registered for the 1:30 start time if you 2 are interested in doing this). To anyone looking to do a dash, they are keeping their $40.00 price until 1/7 due to issues with their registration engine and I saved $5 with the coupon code: WDActive2011. With this registration I am now registered for a crawl in the mud and jumping through fire (Warrior Dash), a wicked trail 1/2 marathon, a swim in the Detroit River (Motor City Tri) and a 200 mile relay through KY with team made up of guys, most of whom I never met (Bourbon Chase). I made a list of events I'd like to do if time permits and there are (at least) 17. I won't do them all, but I can't wait to race some of them!Had to skip swimming today. I have had an on and off cold since Thanksgiving that got must worse over the weekend. Turns out I have a sinus infection and the Doc thought it best if I missed today and waited until Wednesday for the antibiotic to kick in. After going 2 weeks without a pool I was going to give it a go, but thought better of it.
I'm registered for the NY one on Sunday, August 14 at 10 a.m! First Warrior Dash for me. :P
 
8 miles yesterday, and 8 miles today with 6 miles at 8:03/mile pace.BTW, on last week's longer runs: The 12 miler (8:35/mi) averaged a 145 HR, and the 15 miler (8:34/mi) averaged 151 HR. I'll be monitoring the HR carefully, now that I've got the Garmin. I do not have a good feel as to where the rate should be since I haven't been monitoring this over recent years. Advice and context are welcomed.
Damn you are putting the miles away. Impressive.
 
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Warrior Dash Registration is back up and I am REGISTERED for the Michigan event on 7/30 (Dexter & TH, I am registered for the 1:30 start time if you 2 are interested in doing this). To anyone looking to do a dash, they are keeping their $40.00 price until 1/7 due to issues with their registration engine and I saved $5 with the coupon code: WDActive2011. With this registration I am now registered for a crawl in the mud and jumping through fire (Warrior Dash), a wicked trail 1/2 marathon, a swim in the Detroit River (Motor City Tri) and a 200 mile relay through KY with team made up of guys, most of whom I never met (Bourbon Chase). I made a list of events I'd like to do if time permits and there are (at least) 17. I won't do them all, but I can't wait to race some of them!

Had to skip swimming today. I have had an on and off cold since Thanksgiving that got must worse over the weekend. Turns out I have a sinus infection and the Doc thought it best if I missed today and waited until Wednesday for the antibiotic to kick in. After going 2 weeks without a pool I was going to give it a go, but thought better of it.
I'm registered for the NY one on Sunday, August 14 at 10 a.m! First Warrior Dash for me. :boxing:
:) If you haven't been to their FB page, its worth a look, with tons of photos and videos. I have an old Austin Power Halloween Costume I am thinking about running in (and ruining).
 
I think we all should get are Bourbon Chase gear here. Don't forget to get the correct pouch size. :goodposting:
Kinda the anti-Wicked Weasel (which is also NSFW), eh? BTW, I couldn't find the Clydesdale pouch size, so I gave up.
To qualify as a Budweiser Clydesdale it must have stockinged feet and a blaze patterned white mark on its face; castration is also required.
 
I think we all should get are Bourbon Chase gear here. Don't forget to get the correct pouch size. :lmao:
Kinda the anti-Wicked Weasel (which is also NSFW), eh? BTW, I couldn't find the Clydesdale pouch size, so I gave up.
To qualify as a Budweiser Clydesdale it must have stockinged feet and a blaze patterned white mark on its face; castration is also required.
Well, at least I have the castration part covered :goodposting:
 
Did my seven mile speed run today and it kicked my ###. I am not sure if it is residual holiday laziness or what but I gonna call this work out a fail. I had to stop and walk a few times and I did not meet the speed goal for most of the run. I am scheduled for a long run(8 miles) on Saturday. I plan on doing that and then I will repeat this weeks training in the hopes that I will do better on the speed run next week. I was pretty disappointed in this run. On the positive side I did finish the seven miles. :goodposting:

I had also done over 5 miles on the elyptical last night. I dont know if this played a factor today or not but I will skip the elyptical the night before a longer run from now on.

 
Did 12 rough miles last night. I am just worn out right now. I can't seem to get enough sleep and am just drained. Part of it is that I have not been sleeping well. Have an interview today and am a little anxious for it, but for the most part, I just need to get bed earlier.

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As for the pouches, do remember that we will be running in early October so the weather could be pretty chilly. Nothing like showing up with something to show off your stuff to have it freezing and your buddy turtle heading it back into your body for warmth. In that case, make sure you bring some extra socks for enhancements. That would also be a pretty funny gag as well.

 
Prosopis - hang in there. A seven-mile speed run sounds like a very tough workout. Good job on finishing!

PMB - just stay the course. There are ups and downs in every cycle. Like I've said before, if a golfer has a bad round, he just shrugs it off and figures he'll do better the next time. But when we runners have a bad run, we immediately begin to question our training, our ability, etc. Just shrug it off and stick with the program - the consistency matters so much more than any individual workout.

And believe me, I am living that right now. Still kicking myself for losing so much conditioning over the holidays. On the bright side, I did 5 miles again this a.m. It's the first time I've done back-to-back workday morning runs since the week before Thanksgiving. Once I got out of the routine, it got so hard to get back into it. It's actually been reassuring to remind myself that I can do it - my confidence/motivation really seemed to vanish for a while.

Just like yesterday, my average HR for the run was 146 - maybe that's just my cruising HR, since I was just running at a comfortable pace without worrying about HR. 8:26 average mile today at that HR, vs. 8:29 yesterday, which was nice. Still a far cry from the 8:01 my running log shows me I did at that HR back in November, though.

The Pfitz 18/55 starts next week. Do those of you who have done it think I can handle it after blowing off most training the last 7 weeks, or am I better off rebuilding my base for the next few weeks and then doing the 12/55?

 
The Pfitz 18/55 starts next week. Do those of you who have done it think I can handle it after blowing off most training the last 7 weeks, or am I better off rebuilding my base for the next few weeks and then doing the 12/55?
I'd probably just go ahead and start next week, but don't beat yourself up too bad if you have a hard time with some of the workouts. Just do your best and work yourself back into shape.
 
The Pfitz 18/55 starts next week. Do those of you who have done it think I can handle it after blowing off most training the last 7 weeks, or am I better off rebuilding my base for the next few weeks and then doing the 12/55?
Not that I am an expert, but I don't see where you couldn't handle the 18/55. The first six weeks aren't that strenuous. I'm always amazed at how quickly form returns - and I think it will for you, as well.
 
Did 12 rough miles last night. I am just worn out right now. I can't seem to get enough sleep and am just drained. Part of it is that I have not been sleeping well. Have an interview today and am a little anxious for it, but for the most part, I just need to get bed earlier.
Dude, I feel you. I seriously need to get back into the habit of running in the morning, but lately I've been totally unable to do it. In the past, I could get by with 6-7 hours of sleep, but apparently not anymore. So if I want to get up at 5-6:00, then I guess I need to be in bed by 9-10:00 (instead of 10:30-11:00 like I'm doing now). Not a lifestyle change that I'm thrilled about making, but it is what it is.
 
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The Pfitz 18/55 starts next week. Do those of you who have done it think I can handle it after blowing off most training the last 7 weeks, or am I better off rebuilding my base for the next few weeks and then doing the 12/55?
Not that I am an expert, but I don't see where you couldn't handle the 18/55. The first six weeks aren't that strenuous. I'm always amazed at how quickly form returns - and I think it will for you, as well.
:wub: It's totally normal to lose fitness when you take time off, but it comes back fast.

 
The Pfitz 18/55 starts next week. Do those of you who have done it think I can handle it after blowing off most training the last 7 weeks, or am I better off rebuilding my base for the next few weeks and then doing the 12/55?
Not that I am an expert, but I don't see where you couldn't handle the 18/55. The first six weeks aren't that strenuous. I'm always amazed at how quickly form returns - and I think it will for you, as well.
:blackdot: It's totally normal to lose fitness when you take time off, but it comes back fast.
fixed. It used to come back fast. It gets harder each year for me. I'm guessing this is why Tri-Man works out twice per day, 8 days a week. __________________

I got another short (4 miles) run in this morning, and really think I'm going to max my runs out at 6 miles, bike rides at 20 miles, and swims at 2,000 meters for the next three months. I'm really enjoying P90, and want to see if gaining overall strength can assist in avoiding injury. My plan is to go all the way through the P90 cycle while doing light aerobic work, then to start my base building in early Spring, while still using weight/plyometric training through the summer. Then, concentrate mostly on endurance come September. It's at least a plan :ph34r:

 
6 miles on a wet, slippery, muddy trail just now. Aside from slipping a bit, I shortened my stride quite a bit and it felt great! Slower than I'd like but when I'm just trying to stay upright, I'll take it.

I can't understand why there are so many trail races in the winter in Virginia, it's wet, cold and even if the snow melts, it turns into mud!

 
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I was told there were snacks in the green room over here?

Avid cyclist planning my first foray into triathlons this spring - a sprint tri in mid April. Cycling is the leg I'm going to lean on, running I need help with, and the swimming scares the beejebus out of me. I've a good cardio base b/c of the cycling, so I'm pretty much planning a 60/30/10 swimming/running/cycling training regimen. My biggest concern with running is making sure I don't hurt myself since my lungs are going to be well ahead of my joints. I went to one of the local running stores today and got professionally fitted, so I have a good pair of shoes. Some advice on how to safely/most appropriately ramp up distances running over the next 10 weeks would be awesome.

 
6 miles on a wet, slippery, muddy trail just now. Aside from slipping a bit, I shortened my stride quite a bit and it felt great! Slower than I'd like but when I'm just trying to stay upright, I'll take it.

I can't understand why there are so many trail races in the winter in Virginia, it's wet, cold and even if the snow melts, it turns into mud!
Sign me up, that is my kind of conditions!!!!! I'd kill for just wet right now.
 
I went to one of the local running stores today and got professionally fitted, so I have a good pair of shoes.
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Some advice on how to safely/most appropriately ramp up distances running over the next 10 weeks would be awesome.
You ultimately want to build up to a 10K, right? If you were just running, and that was it, I would point you to Hal Higdon's 10K plan, but the tri people in here are going to be able to do a much better job of giving you something tri-specific. The main thing with building up your running mileage to to increase it by no more than 10% per week. Don't try to boost the distance of your longest weekly run too far too fast either, but that's probably not a major concern right now. As long as you have a good pair of shoes and increase your mileage slowly, you should be fine.
 
I went to one of the local running stores today and got professionally fitted, so I have a good pair of shoes.
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Some advice on how to safely/most appropriately ramp up distances running over the next 10 weeks would be awesome.
You ultimately want to build up to a 10K, right? If you were just running, and that was it, I would point you to Hal Higdon's 10K plan, but the tri people in here are going to be able to do a much better job of giving you something tri-specific. The main thing with building up your running mileage to to increase it by no more than 10% per week. Don't try to boost the distance of your longest weekly run too far too fast either, but that's probably not a major concern right now. As long as you have a good pair of shoes and increase your mileage slowly, you should be fine.
10k maybe later his summer depending on how the first sprint tri this spring goes. The sprint tri is 750M swim, 15 mile bike ride, 3.1 mile run. So for the next 12 weeks, my goal is to safely be able to run a 5k. The times/cardio I'm not concerned with - the base is there from cycling. I just want to pace it properly so I don't do too much/too quick and end up hurt.
 
:) I was told there were snacks in the green room over here? Avid cyclist planning my first foray into triathlons this spring - a sprint tri in mid April. Cycling is the leg I'm going to lean on, running I need help with, and the swimming scares the beejebus out of me. I've a good cardio base b/c of the cycling, so I'm pretty much planning a 60/30/10 swimming/running/cycling training regimen. My biggest concern with running is making sure I don't hurt myself since my lungs are going to be well ahead of my joints. I went to one of the local running stores today and got professionally fitted, so I have a good pair of shoes. Some advice on how to safely/most appropriately ramp up distances running over the next 10 weeks would be awesome.
60/30/10 swimming/running/cycling training regimenYou actually have the reversed. Just some ballpark figures, but your looking at 18 min swim, 45 min bike, 25 min run. Since you're on the bike twice as long, you should be putting heavy emphasis there. The running will help you in all three disciplines. Obviously more swimming will help and is a good thing, but don't sacrafice elsewhere just to churn out laps. You may want to try to find a pool swim tri for your first event.
 
10k maybe later his summer depending on how the first sprint tri this spring goes. The sprint tri is 750M swim, 15 mile bike ride, 3.1 mile run. So for the next 12 weeks, my goal is to safely be able to run a 5k. The times/cardio I'm not concerned with - the base is there from cycling. I just want to pace it properly so I don't do too much/too quick and end up hurt.
What I would do for this is to cover 3 miles, three times a week, but to do various walk-run combinations. Something like this:Week 1: Run for a minute, walk for a minute. Repeat until you cover 3 miles.

Week 2: Run for two minutes, walk for a minute. Repeat until you cover 3 miles.

Week 3: Run for four minutes, walk for a minute. Repeat.

Week 4: Run for eight minutes, walk for a minute. Repeat.

Week 5: Run 3 miles continuously.

Several years ago when I had tendonitis and had to basically start all over from scratch, this approach was what my PT guy recommended. I don't remember exactly what the run-walk ratios were, but they were something kind of like this.

Or you could build like this if you want to do more continuous running right off the bat.

 
10k maybe later his summer depending on how the first sprint tri this spring goes. The sprint tri is 750M swim, 15 mile bike ride, 3.1 mile run. So for the next 12 weeks, my goal is to safely be able to run a 5k. The times/cardio I'm not concerned with - the base is there from cycling. I just want to pace it properly so I don't do too much/too quick and end up hurt.
A key will be to practice 'bricks' - do some biking, then quickly change shoes and go for a run. It's a rather indescribable feeling the first couple of times you do it. You feel like you're running in place, but actually, your pace is probably quite good because the legs/hips are warmed up and coming off the fast rotation of the bike.
 
I went to one of the local running stores today and got professionally fitted, so I have a good pair of shoes.
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Some advice on how to safely/most appropriately ramp up distances running over the next 10 weeks would be awesome.
You ultimately want to build up to a 10K, right? If you were just running, and that was it, I would point you to Hal Higdon's 10K plan, but the tri people in here are going to be able to do a much better job of giving you something tri-specific. The main thing with building up your running mileage to to increase it by no more than 10% per week. Don't try to boost the distance of your longest weekly run too far too fast either, but that's probably not a major concern right now. As long as you have a good pair of shoes and increase your mileage slowly, you should be fine.
10k maybe later his summer depending on how the first sprint tri this spring goes. The sprint tri is 750M swim, 15 mile bike ride, 3.1 mile run. So for the next 12 weeks, my goal is to safely be able to run a 5k. The times/cardio I'm not concerned with - the base is there from cycling. I just want to pace it properly so I don't do too much/too quick and end up hurt.
Go run a 5k and report back.Based on your statements, brick workouts should be added asap. That's biking and running back to back with no rest. You need to get your legs used to it. You also may want to practice running after getting out of the pool. Many people have balance issues after being prone for awhile and then sprinting to the bike rack. Probably the lowest hanging friut is learning how to put your shoes on very quickly.

 
8 miles yesterday, and 8 miles today with 6 miles at 8:03/mile pace.

BTW, on last week's longer runs: The 12 miler (8:35/mi) averaged a 145 HR, and the 15 miler (8:34/mi) averaged 151 HR. I'll be monitoring the HR carefully, now that I've got the Garmin. I do not have a good feel as to where the rate should be since I haven't been monitoring this over recent years. Advice and context are welcomed.
Go to this site and download the Heart Rate Calculator excel spread sheet. Once you know and plug in your HR max and resting HR, it will give you a range of HR training zones. It's not exact, but it will give you a ballpark. BTW, those are some kick-### paces for your long runs. Wow.
Perfect. Thanks!!! I needed to get my bearings on the HR activity, and this did the trick. The key that I picked up for now is to target a HR in the low 140's for my long runs (based on calculuated max of 174 and measured min of 56) ...I've been pushing that a bit too hard.
 
:thumbup: I was told there were snacks in the green room over here? Avid cyclist planning my first foray into triathlons this spring - a sprint tri in mid April. Cycling is the leg I'm going to lean on, running I need help with, and the swimming scares the beejebus out of me. I've a good cardio base b/c of the cycling, so I'm pretty much planning a 60/30/10 swimming/running/cycling training regimen. My biggest concern with running is making sure I don't hurt myself since my lungs are going to be well ahead of my joints. I went to one of the local running stores today and got professionally fitted, so I have a good pair of shoes. Some advice on how to safely/most appropriately ramp up distances running over the next 10 weeks would be awesome.
60/30/10 swimming/running/cycling training regimenYou actually have the reversed. Just some ballpark figures, but your looking at 18 min swim, 45 min bike, 25 min run. Since you're on the bike twice as long, you should be putting heavy emphasis there. The running will help you in all three disciplines. Obviously more swimming will help and is a good thing, but don't sacrafice elsewhere just to churn out laps. You may want to try to find a pool swim tri for your first event.
You're right BnB, but for the wrong reason. Gene won't be physically able to achieve 60% of his time in the water. Just ain't gonna happen. I'll be shocked if he gets more than 2-300yds done the first time out.Gene, when you do your swimming, go out with the idea you are working on form. No sprints, nothing but trying to swim with good form. Drills to develop good form. Take it as it comes and the fitness will build itself. Form is what will get you home, though, so make that a priority. You want smooth, strong, and fluid with as good a form as you can produce every session out there. Your first few weeks in the pool will probably be embarrassingly short sessions. That's OK. The goal is to have you comfortable for a 500yd swim by April. That's only 10 laps and you can get there from here. You don't need 4,000yd sessions to get there (and you won't be able to achieve that anyway, from your comments).As far as the running, when I started I was running 2.4 miles ('cause that was a lap around my neighborhood) three times a week. I'd go out, run, come in seeing lights and collapse. That lasted for 5 weeks or so until I managed to increase fitness a bit and then started building from there. With your cycling fitness you can probably go out and do a slow mile or two jog. If you can do that, great. Ivan's method is probably smarter and is a good starting point as well. Build from there. The general consensus is no more than 10% increase in mileage per week. Find what you can do and build from there. I wouldn't worry about any speedwork, sprints, or any of that jazz. Just run. A 5k is 80% aerobic, anyway.
 
10k maybe later his summer depending on how the first sprint tri this spring goes. The sprint tri is 750M swim, 15 mile bike ride, 3.1 mile run. So for the next 12 weeks, my goal is to safely be able to run a 5k. The times/cardio I'm not concerned with - the base is there from cycling. I just want to pace it properly so I don't do too much/too quick and end up hurt.
A key will be to practice 'bricks' - do some biking, then quickly change shoes and go for a run. It's a rather indescribable feeling the first couple of times you do it. You feel like you're running in place, but actually, your pace is probably quite good because the legs/hips are warmed up and coming off the fast rotation of the bike.
LOL - maybe I'm an odd bird but I've never found anything useful with a brick workout.
 
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8 miles yesterday, and 8 miles today with 6 miles at 8:03/mile pace.

BTW, on last week's longer runs: The 12 miler (8:35/mi) averaged a 145 HR, and the 15 miler (8:34/mi) averaged 151 HR. I'll be monitoring the HR carefully, now that I've got the Garmin. I do not have a good feel as to where the rate should be since I haven't been monitoring this over recent years. Advice and context are welcomed.
Go to this site and download the Heart Rate Calculator excel spread sheet. Once you know and plug in your HR max and resting HR, it will give you a range of HR training zones. It's not exact, but it will give you a ballpark. BTW, those are some kick-### paces for your long runs. Wow.
Perfect. Thanks!!! I needed to get my bearings on the HR activity, and this did the trick. The key that I picked up for now is to target a HR in the low 140's for my long runs (based on calculuated max of 174 and measured min of 56) ...I've been pushing that a bit too hard.
:goodposting: I was thinking your long run pace sounded a little fast, but I didn't want to say anything. It might have been seen as jealousy on my part.

 
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:lmao: I was told there were snacks in the green room over here? Avid cyclist planning my first foray into triathlons this spring - a sprint tri in mid April. Cycling is the leg I'm going to lean on, running I need help with, and the swimming scares the beejebus out of me. I've a good cardio base b/c of the cycling, so I'm pretty much planning a 60/30/10 swimming/running/cycling training regimen. My biggest concern with running is making sure I don't hurt myself since my lungs are going to be well ahead of my joints. I went to one of the local running stores today and got professionally fitted, so I have a good pair of shoes. Some advice on how to safely/most appropriately ramp up distances running over the next 10 weeks would be awesome.
60/30/10 swimming/running/cycling training regimenYou actually have the reversed. Just some ballpark figures, but your looking at 18 min swim, 45 min bike, 25 min run. Since you're on the bike twice as long, you should be putting heavy emphasis there. The running will help you in all three disciplines. Obviously more swimming will help and is a good thing, but don't sacrafice elsewhere just to churn out laps. You may want to try to find a pool swim tri for your first event.
You're right BnB, but for the wrong reason. Gene won't be physically able to achieve 60% of his time in the water. Just ain't gonna happen. I'll be shocked if he gets more than 2-300yds done the first time out.Gene, when you do your swimming, go out with the idea you are working on form. No sprints, nothing but trying to swim with good form. Drills to develop good form. Take it as it comes and the fitness will build itself. Form is what will get you home, though, so make that a priority. You want smooth, strong, and fluid with as good a form as you can produce every session out there. Your first few weeks in the pool will probably be embarrassingly short sessions. That's OK. The goal is to have you comfortable for a 500yd swim by April. That's only 10 laps and you can get there from here. You don't need 4,000yd sessions to get there (and you won't be able to achieve that anyway, from your comments).As far as the running, when I started I was running 2.4 miles ('cause that was a lap around my neighborhood) three times a week. I'd go out, run, come in seeing lights and collapse. That lasted for 5 weeks or so until I managed to increase fitness a bit and then started building from there. With your cycling fitness you can probably go out and do a slow mile or two jog. If you can do that, great. Ivan's method is probably smarter and is a good starting point as well. Build from there. The general consensus is no more than 10% increase in mileage per week. Find what you can do and build from there. I wouldn't worry about any speedwork, sprints, or any of that jazz. Just run. A 5k is 80% aerobic, anyway.
Are you doing Powerman Alabama this year?Once you get past the big dog swimmers, even a bad swimmier won't lose huge chucks of time to the field. Here are some stats from a sprint tri last year with a 750 swim.Swim ranks - 1st 10:29, 10th 11:57, 50th 14:06, 100th 15:06, 200th 16:58, 300th 18:56, 400th 25:49Bike ranks - 1st 40:35, 10th 42:14, 50th 44:52, 100th 47:06, 200th 50:29, 300th 54:20, 400th 1:07:14Trail run ranks - 1st 17:56, 10th 19:26, 50th 21:44, 100th 23:05, 200th 25:35, 300th 28:46, 400th 39:31Difference between 50th and 300th is 4:50 on the swim, 9:28 on the bike, and 7:02 on the run. Notice the difference between 1st and 10th in all the events is 1:30. Any middle of the packer to upper quarter triathlete should be bike and run focused. Once you progress to the point that you are in the upper 10% in those disciplines, then the swim becomes the area with the biggest bang for the buck.
 

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