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Ran a 10k in June (5 Viewers)
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Sand
Footballguy
CVS spot bandages - 100 for $4. I have taken to wearing them anytime I have a shirt on and go running. I'm a wuss, but it only took one instance of bleeding nipples to train this old dog.
ThreeThousand
Footballguy
Lol - agreed. It only takes once.'Sand said:
Ned
Footballguy
Back from a great vacation. Looks like some good stuff happened while I was toes-in-sand all week. Really looking forward to hearing how BnB makes out. Sorry if I missed anyone...
tri - What an awesome RR. That late push when others were dropping like flies had to feel incredible. Really glad to see the HR experiment was a success. I'm becoming a big believer.
shonuff - Nice job on the simulated 5K. Seeing the hard work paying off really fuels the fire. I'm willing to bet in a race environment you'll smash your PR.
2Y2BB -
I can't believe you can do something like that. Nothing but tons of respect for you tri guys. That swimming stuff is nuts to me.
grue - Its amazing how easy it is to let the old ego blind you. Have you set a marathon goal yet?
prosopis - Keep your chin up, GB. You can only do what you can with the cards you're dealt. Just remember - training in the heat will just make you that much strong come fall/winter. Just stay smart.
On my end it was a week of eating and drinking like a fatty and getting a few runs in when I felt like getting out of bed. Half by design, half by laziness. I wanted this week to be a relax & recharge week and wanted to put running in the backseat to enjoying time with wife/kids. We had a great time and can't wait to go back.
Running wise it was pretty successful. The 'family' 5K fell apart after my lame brother and sister decided to not run due to the heat/humidity. It was super muggy all week to the point where the windows on the house were fogged up most mornings. Me and the wife pre-registered online, thankfully. At the starting line they announced they killed the registration record with 834 runners.
Right after the start we made a hard left onto the main street. Some chick behind me decided to cut the corner and ran dead into the telephone pole. I tried to not laugh as I looked back to make sure she was OK (she was fine). The lead pack broke away fast and I ended up running with a marine who looked like he was on a Sunday stroll. I wasn't very comfortable and just tried to settle in as best as I could. After the turn around at 1.5 I felt pretty woozy/wobbly. My legs were jelly. I tried to relax and get things under control and just tried to make the best of it. The way back was 2-way traffic and saw my wife struggling. She looked miserable. :(
I lost the marine somewhere around 2.0 to only have him pass me back at 2.3 or so. It was then I started to wake up and felt a 2nd wind. Maybe it was an old military rivalry (I'm ex-AF), but racing with the marine woke me up and had a great finish. I was able to pull away from him on the final stretch and came in with another PR - 21:21. 25 more seconds trimmed off. Unreal. I'm really questioning myself on how much of this is learning to press the limits vs. actual gains. Either way, running a low 21 in these conditions is motivating as all hell.
I looked at my Garmin data over breakfast and Sand was right about my HR max (193 isn't my real max). I hit 194 at the end of the race. It's only 1bpm more, but yikes. 194 is scary. For feeling like #### at the start, the splits were pretty strong. 6:51, 6:56, 6:55, 0:39. I'm still on cloud 9. The rest of the week I did runs of 7, 5, 8. Nothing great, but just enough to keep the legs moving.
My wife gutted it out and finished in 32:20. I did my usual cool down back through the course and ran the finish with her. Not a peep from her as we ran the last half mile. Not her best run as the heat got to her, but I'm glad she soldiered on and finished strong when things weren't going her way.
tri - What an awesome RR. That late push when others were dropping like flies had to feel incredible. Really glad to see the HR experiment was a success. I'm becoming a big believer.
shonuff - Nice job on the simulated 5K. Seeing the hard work paying off really fuels the fire. I'm willing to bet in a race environment you'll smash your PR.
2Y2BB -
I can't believe you can do something like that. Nothing but tons of respect for you tri guys. That swimming stuff is nuts to me.grue - Its amazing how easy it is to let the old ego blind you. Have you set a marathon goal yet?
prosopis - Keep your chin up, GB. You can only do what you can with the cards you're dealt. Just remember - training in the heat will just make you that much strong come fall/winter. Just stay smart.
On my end it was a week of eating and drinking like a fatty and getting a few runs in when I felt like getting out of bed. Half by design, half by laziness. I wanted this week to be a relax & recharge week and wanted to put running in the backseat to enjoying time with wife/kids. We had a great time and can't wait to go back.
Running wise it was pretty successful. The 'family' 5K fell apart after my lame brother and sister decided to not run due to the heat/humidity. It was super muggy all week to the point where the windows on the house were fogged up most mornings. Me and the wife pre-registered online, thankfully. At the starting line they announced they killed the registration record with 834 runners.
Right after the start we made a hard left onto the main street. Some chick behind me decided to cut the corner and ran dead into the telephone pole. I tried to not laugh as I looked back to make sure she was OK (she was fine). The lead pack broke away fast and I ended up running with a marine who looked like he was on a Sunday stroll. I wasn't very comfortable and just tried to settle in as best as I could. After the turn around at 1.5 I felt pretty woozy/wobbly. My legs were jelly. I tried to relax and get things under control and just tried to make the best of it. The way back was 2-way traffic and saw my wife struggling. She looked miserable. :(
I lost the marine somewhere around 2.0 to only have him pass me back at 2.3 or so. It was then I started to wake up and felt a 2nd wind. Maybe it was an old military rivalry (I'm ex-AF), but racing with the marine woke me up and had a great finish. I was able to pull away from him on the final stretch and came in with another PR - 21:21. 25 more seconds trimmed off. Unreal. I'm really questioning myself on how much of this is learning to press the limits vs. actual gains. Either way, running a low 21 in these conditions is motivating as all hell.
I looked at my Garmin data over breakfast and Sand was right about my HR max (193 isn't my real max). I hit 194 at the end of the race. It's only 1bpm more, but yikes. 194 is scary. For feeling like #### at the start, the splits were pretty strong. 6:51, 6:56, 6:55, 0:39. I'm still on cloud 9. The rest of the week I did runs of 7, 5, 8. Nothing great, but just enough to keep the legs moving.
My wife gutted it out and finished in 32:20. I did my usual cool down back through the course and ran the finish with her. Not a peep from her as we ran the last half mile. Not her best run as the heat got to her, but I'm glad she soldiered on and finished strong when things weren't going her way.
gruecd
Footballguy
Ned
Footballguy
I was hoping you were going for that again, but didn't want to specifically ask.
gruecd
Footballguy
Meant to tell you guys...
My buddy, Chad, was interviewed this past week by The Marathon Show about his Western States experience. It's a pretty awesome interview. You can listen to it on their website (on the right-hand side of the page, under "Listen to the show"), or else you can download the podcast for free on iTunes. Definitely worth the listen.
As it stands right now, I'm tentatively hoping to do the JFK50 next fall, with the goal of maybe trying a 100-miler myself in 2013. We'll see...
My buddy, Chad, was interviewed this past week by The Marathon Show about his Western States experience. It's a pretty awesome interview. You can listen to it on their website (on the right-hand side of the page, under "Listen to the show"), or else you can download the podcast for free on iTunes. Definitely worth the listen.
As it stands right now, I'm tentatively hoping to do the JFK50 next fall, with the goal of maybe trying a 100-miler myself in 2013. We'll see...
Quick update. Finished the metric century and I'm healthy. Some soreness and bouts of cramps afterwards. Doing everything I can to stretch, hydrate, massage, and refuel for the mary tomorrow. Missed my time goal at today's event by about 5 minutes. I'll give the full report later but unfortunately I witnessed a guy perish in this event and it was pretty horiffic. This and bad weather really took the edge off the desire to hammer. Also had a mis-mark turn send me on a different route.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
I hope you dont mean literally? Be careful out there!!Ned that is a damn high HR. Highest I have hit was 181 but I have not done a HR max run yet.
I will attempt a long run tomorrow. This morning at 5:00am it was in the 80s. That was before sunrise
It is now humid here as well with the monsoon storms at night.
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
A quick Google search reveals its literal. Damn. During the Detroit 1/2 Marathon a few years back, I ran past a guy receiving CPR that passed and it messed with my head for a while. Just not something no one should see. BNB, put it out of your head and go get it tomorrow. Nothing you can do about it but focus on achieving your goal. It there is an ounce of "it could have been me" put it out of your head. What you are about to accomplish is amazing and nothing should stand in the way, there will be plenty of time to reflect after.I hope you dont mean literally? Be careful out there!!Ned that is a damn high HR. Highest I have hit was 181 but I have not done a HR max run yet.
I will attempt a long run tomorrow. This morning at 5:00am it was in the 80s. That was before sunrise
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Damn. Sorry to hear that.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
Wow I am sorry to hear that.A quick Google search reveals its literal. Damn. During the Detroit 1/2 Marathon a few years back, I ran past a guy receiving CPR that passed and it messed with my head for a while. Just not something no one should see. BNB, put it out of your head and go get it tomorrow. Nothing you can do about it but focus on achieving your goal. It there is an ounce of "it could have been me" put it out of your head. What you are about to accomplish is amazing and nothing should stand in the way, there will be plenty of time to reflect after.I hope you dont mean literally? Be careful out there!!Ned that is a damn high HR. Highest I have hit was 181 but I have not done a HR max run yet.
I will attempt a long run tomorrow. This morning at 5:00am it was in the 80s. That was before sunrise
Didn't go down exactly like reported. There was gravel on the course. The timimg mgmt company screwed up my posted finishing time by about 4 minutes. For as well as the Bear was run, the Grizzly was less than stellar.
http://www.mtn18.com/latest_news/2011/07/cyclist-killed-in-the-grizzly-bicycle-race.html
More specifics about the race
http://www.digtriad.com/sports/article/182248/13/Grandfather--Mountain-Grizzly-Bike-Race-Results
http://www.mtn18.com/latest_news/2011/07/cyclist-killed-in-the-grizzly-bicycle-race.html
More specifics about the race
http://www.digtriad.com/sports/article/182248/13/Grandfather--Mountain-Grizzly-Bike-Race-Results
gruecd
Footballguy
Good luck today!
sho nuff
Footballguy
Hope so...will find out in two weeks I think.Going to run in a little fun one that supports my old High School's cross country team (eventhough I never ran cross country). Get to start and finish on my old track though which should be fun.
sports_fan
Footballguy
This thread is helping inspire me to get back into the mix.
I ran a lot in high school, my father got me into it. I was good, not great. My 5k PR is 18:12. I went to the same college as my father in hopes of following in his footsteps on the cross country team. I didn't make the team my freshmen year but knocked out 70-80 mile weeks (about twice what I was doing in high school) that year to make another run at it the following year. I was in the best shape of my life. Then, disaster. I tore my ACL playing backyard football with a bunch of friends during finals week. All of that work instantly down the drain. Had surgery and spent most of the summer laid up. 8 months later physical therapy had me nearly back to running again. What happened next nearly ruined me. I tore the same ACL again during one of my final physical therapy sessions. They had me do a vertical leap to test my strength, I came down on it wrong and put just enough pressure on the knee to tear the ACL a second time. I had surgery again, followed by another long stretch of tedious rehabilitation. I graduated from school in 3 years and never got to give it another go.
About 3 years following that first incident (1 year post graduation), I'm just now getting back to running regularly. My conditioning is returning relatively quickly. Two months ago I was doing 1/4 mile every other day and my leg would feel lifeless afterwords with fairly significant swelling. I'm now at 1.5 miles every other day with much less discomfort after my runs. My pace is slow, but the strength is finally returning. With no more setbacks, I'm probably looking at least another year of training before I start with road races again. Yet it feels great to be back at it.
No schtick. Keep it up fellas.
I ran a lot in high school, my father got me into it. I was good, not great. My 5k PR is 18:12. I went to the same college as my father in hopes of following in his footsteps on the cross country team. I didn't make the team my freshmen year but knocked out 70-80 mile weeks (about twice what I was doing in high school) that year to make another run at it the following year. I was in the best shape of my life. Then, disaster. I tore my ACL playing backyard football with a bunch of friends during finals week. All of that work instantly down the drain. Had surgery and spent most of the summer laid up. 8 months later physical therapy had me nearly back to running again. What happened next nearly ruined me. I tore the same ACL again during one of my final physical therapy sessions. They had me do a vertical leap to test my strength, I came down on it wrong and put just enough pressure on the knee to tear the ACL a second time. I had surgery again, followed by another long stretch of tedious rehabilitation. I graduated from school in 3 years and never got to give it another go.
About 3 years following that first incident (1 year post graduation), I'm just now getting back to running regularly. My conditioning is returning relatively quickly. Two months ago I was doing 1/4 mile every other day and my leg would feel lifeless afterwords with fairly significant swelling. I'm now at 1.5 miles every other day with much less discomfort after my runs. My pace is slow, but the strength is finally returning. With no more setbacks, I'm probably looking at least another year of training before I start with road races again. Yet it feels great to be back at it.
No schtick. Keep it up fellas.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Good luck coming back...and great of you to take it slow.This thread is helping inspire me to get back into the mix.I ran a lot in high school, my father got me into it. I was good, not great. My 5k PR is 18:12. I went to the same college as my father in hopes of following in his footsteps on the cross country team. I didn't make the team my freshmen year but knocked out 70-80 mile weeks (about twice what I was doing in high school) that year to make another run at it the following year. I was in the best shape of my life. Then, disaster. I tore my ACL playing backyard football with a bunch of friends during finals week. All of that work instantly down the drain. Had surgery and spent most of the summer laid up. 8 months later physical therapy had me nearly back to running again. What happened next nearly ruined me. I tore the same ACL again during one of my final physical therapy sessions. They had me do a vertical leap to test my strength, I came down on it wrong and put just enough pressure on the knee to tear the ACL a second time. I had surgery again, followed by another long stretch of tedious rehabilitation. I graduated from school in 3 years and never got to give it another go.About 3 years following that first incident (1 year post graduation), I'm just now getting back to running regularly. My conditioning is returning relatively quickly. Two months ago I was doing 1/4 mile every other day and my leg would feel lifeless afterwords with fairly significant swelling. I'm now at 1.5 miles every other day with much less discomfort after my runs. My pace is slow, but the strength is finally returning. With no more setbacks, I'm probably looking at least another year of training before I start with road races again. Yet it feels great to be back at it.No schtick. Keep it up fellas.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
sho nuff
Footballguy
Knocked out 6 miles this morning. Original plan called for 4 miles...but I was a bit ahead when I started this plan and meant to do 5 today. It was hot, but felt good after the 5 (and miscalculated my loop and ended up about a mile away after 5 miles and decided I had it in me to do the 6).
Felt good...just hot and my shirt could not have been wetter had I jumped in a pool before coming home.
Felt good...just hot and my shirt could not have been wetter had I jumped in a pool before coming home.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
I did 12 miles today. The first 9 were exactly where I wanted to be. The last three sucked ###. I developed some pretty good blisters and again my heart rate went to high. Next week I will try to start one hour earlier. I think if i can do 90% of my run before the sun comes up I will do better. Once this sun hits here I am done. HR just sky rockets. I do think something was up with my HR monitor today. It says I hit a hi of 210 and There is no way that is true. At one point I saw 190 on it and I dont think I was "feeling" 190 at the time.
One real cool thing was I came across a desert tortoise crossing the road. It was a pretty big one. I picked him up and got him out of the road and pointed in the direction of open desert. Just as I finished that a car pulled up and asked me if I saw the tortoise. This guy saw it and turned around to get him out of the road as well. It was pretty cool. i told my kids about it when I got home and my eight year old wants to know why I didnt bring it home. She truly thinks I should have ran it back home.
Good luck B&B
sports_fan keep it up. That is quite a story. Looking forward to hearing how you do. Those were pretty fast times you had.
One real cool thing was I came across a desert tortoise crossing the road. It was a pretty big one. I picked him up and got him out of the road and pointed in the direction of open desert. Just as I finished that a car pulled up and asked me if I saw the tortoise. This guy saw it and turned around to get him out of the road as well. It was pretty cool. i told my kids about it when I got home and my eight year old wants to know why I didnt bring it home. She truly thinks I should have ran it back home.
Good luck B&B
sports_fan keep it up. That is quite a story. Looking forward to hearing how you do. Those were pretty fast times you had.
Darrinll40
Footballguy
I had a good training week, all on treadmills.
4 miles with intervals on Tuesday, this week I added in inclines. What fun.
3 miles sort of tempo on Thursday, finished in 29:09.
Today I ran farther than I have in 3 years and the longest ever on a treadmill, 9 miles in 1:41.
When I started having to cut my grass every Sunday I stopped doing the slow 3 milers. I am thinking that 1.5 hours doing that is about the same as 30 minutes running.
4 miles with intervals on Tuesday, this week I added in inclines. What fun.
3 miles sort of tempo on Thursday, finished in 29:09.
Today I ran farther than I have in 3 years and the longest ever on a treadmill, 9 miles in 1:41.
When I started having to cut my grass every Sunday I stopped doing the slow 3 milers. I am thinking that 1.5 hours doing that is about the same as 30 minutes running.
Darrinll40
Footballguy
Welcome to the thread. Keep up the great work yourself.This thread is helping inspire me to get back into the mix.I ran a lot in high school, my father got me into it. I was good, not great. My 5k PR is 18:12. I went to the same college as my father in hopes of following in his footsteps on the cross country team. I didn't make the team my freshmen year but knocked out 70-80 mile weeks (about twice what I was doing in high school) that year to make another run at it the following year. I was in the best shape of my life. Then, disaster. I tore my ACL playing backyard football with a bunch of friends during finals week. All of that work instantly down the drain. Had surgery and spent most of the summer laid up. 8 months later physical therapy had me nearly back to running again. What happened next nearly ruined me. I tore the same ACL again during one of my final physical therapy sessions. They had me do a vertical leap to test my strength, I came down on it wrong and put just enough pressure on the knee to tear the ACL a second time. I had surgery again, followed by another long stretch of tedious rehabilitation. I graduated from school in 3 years and never got to give it another go.About 3 years following that first incident (1 year post graduation), I'm just now getting back to running regularly. My conditioning is returning relatively quickly. Two months ago I was doing 1/4 mile every other day and my leg would feel lifeless afterwords with fairly significant swelling. I'm now at 1.5 miles every other day with much less discomfort after my runs. My pace is slow, but the strength is finally returning. With no more setbacks, I'm probably looking at least another year of training before I start with road races again. Yet it feels great to be back at it.No schtick. Keep it up fellas.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Wow, that really sucks. :(
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
I agree. Is this the guy you saw B&B?
JFT Ben
Footballguy
Really sucks about stuff like that, actually surprised it doesn't happen more. A friend of mine crashed in a crit a few years back and completely shattered his elbow...could have been a lot, lot worse.
Dances with Dirt Half [trail] Half Marathon RR
My wife and I both completed the Dances with Dirt trail 1/2 M this morning. I think it's moved into my top spot for running races, just ahead of the Syttende Mai.
Prologue
Our local city fair was this weekend, so last night, we headed to the Demolition Derby for the first (and hopefully only) time. I've lived in this small Wisconsin city for the last 12 years, and I swear, I don't know what rocks the attendees crawled out from under, but redneck city. The Derby was actually pretty cool, but a lot of smoking, a lot of swearing, a lot of Budweiser and a lot of jorts in the crowd. We didn't get back until later than I hoped, but slept well.
We've been eating paleo/primal for the last few weeks (low carb), so we didn't really fuel too much except to make sure we took it easy late this week and had a couple Larabars (awesome by the way, v. short ingredient list) last night and some easy carbs for breakfast (banana pancakes which consisted of exactly: 2 bananas, 1 egg, 1+ TBSP almond butter fried like a pancake). Also, had some sport beans about an hour before. First race, and third run total, in my new Brooks Green Silence, with smart wool socks. Was interested to see how they'd hold up.
Prior to our race was the "Extreme Relay" which had some cool 4-somes including my favorites (in no particular order):
1) tighty whitey team with brown skid-marks down the back
2) Village People
3) Disco Girls
4) Super Hero team with Wonder Woman, the Flash, Batgirl and Supergirl
Race Time
We kicked off at 7:30 a.m., two full hours behind the 50k and 50 milers (who are still out there, or most of them anyways, flippin solid dudes and ladies given what I saw today!), and an hour behind the marathoners. Based on my early season training, at one point, I considered (for about 15 minutes) doing the full marathon, but then I saw the race results (the back end of the top 10%, where I often finish, were coming in around 4:45 or so) and decided I wasn't ready for nearly 5 hours yet. At start time, it was probably about mid-70's with about 80% humidity. I wore a fuel belt with 2x 8oz water bottles and two sport bean packs.
Anyways, the course has about a 1/2 mile in sand/gravel road bed, crosses two streams that were steeple-chase-esque (a lot of wet feet) and headed up hell, I mean hill, for the next two miles (somewhere around 700 or 800 feet of gain in that distance). I positioned myself near the front and got off to a pretty good pace. The uphill was basically single-file so had to strategically choose spots for passing. My legs had responded well to the backing off I had done the last few days (were still pretty trashed as late as Wed. from Insanity jump squat stuff every day for the last 6 weeks) and I found a nice rhythm with a small group of about 6 guys as we went up the hill. Cresting, it was flattened out a bit before hitting a very technical and fast downhill on a mix of Baraboo quartzite and roots/branches that crossed the Ice Age Trail.
At about 4 miles, the group had disintegrated, we hit the first "official" aid station (a water stop was at about mile 3) with gatorade and gels, which I skipped (had about 7 sport beans and water), and headed to a 5-mile loop before heading back down the way we came. The other guy who stayed with me was strong and kept at a solid clip while I took some beans and kept it steady. As a note, this was my longest (by 3x) trail run, and while I felt good so far, my feet and ankles were taking a beating. My agility was overall pretty good, my quads/hammys were fine, but my lower legs were not used to the small movements necessary to keep things balanced and [mostly] not falling.
The loop took us out over the South Bluff of the Devil's Lake before working our way back to Devil's Head ski resort (start/finish). Like many others, I kept going along the bluff, when should have turned right on a [poorly] marked 1/2M trail. It added about a half mile to my run, but I heard others added as much as 1.5 miles. After conversing with about 6 other guys who made the same mistake, we found the right path and were on my way. After getting passed by a guy with 5-finger-shoes, I didn't see but 4 or 5 other people the rest of the race. My stomach wasn't feeling great at this stage, so didn't eat anything else (pretty common for me, need to figure this out for my fall marathon as this stomach-shutdown is a problem due to high intensity).
By the time we hit the decent, my feet were pretty tired, though legs felt good. The long 2-mile decent was actually the least favorite of the race. It took careful maneuvering to avoid the rocks and roots and even then I wiped out once (and nearly 3 other times) achieving some road rash for my efforts (saw some nice other ones at the finish). Finally made my way to the finish, hard running in the sandy last 1/2 mile passed one or two who were shutting down from dehydration and finished in 2:02:5X. This was good enough for 6th in my AG (not sure how many) and 38 out of nearly (+/-, I forget which) 500 entrants. I really had no hard expectations going into this race, and considering my extra 1/2 mile, was pretty happy w/ my results. Probably could have moved up about 10 spots OA and 2 AG without the wrong turn.
Post-Script
My wife also finished 6th in her AG, though finished a while behind me. After a post-race shower at the finish line, I finished my 1.5 bags of beans and felt better. Only two extra blisters for my efforts. Awesome race (minus one poorly marked turn), great organization, and one we plan to do again. I have to give major, major props to the volunteers and those still out there doing the long races.
Dances with Dirt Half [trail] Half Marathon RR
My wife and I both completed the Dances with Dirt trail 1/2 M this morning. I think it's moved into my top spot for running races, just ahead of the Syttende Mai.
Prologue
Our local city fair was this weekend, so last night, we headed to the Demolition Derby for the first (and hopefully only) time. I've lived in this small Wisconsin city for the last 12 years, and I swear, I don't know what rocks the attendees crawled out from under, but redneck city. The Derby was actually pretty cool, but a lot of smoking, a lot of swearing, a lot of Budweiser and a lot of jorts in the crowd. We didn't get back until later than I hoped, but slept well.
We've been eating paleo/primal for the last few weeks (low carb), so we didn't really fuel too much except to make sure we took it easy late this week and had a couple Larabars (awesome by the way, v. short ingredient list) last night and some easy carbs for breakfast (banana pancakes which consisted of exactly: 2 bananas, 1 egg, 1+ TBSP almond butter fried like a pancake). Also, had some sport beans about an hour before. First race, and third run total, in my new Brooks Green Silence, with smart wool socks. Was interested to see how they'd hold up.
Prior to our race was the "Extreme Relay" which had some cool 4-somes including my favorites (in no particular order):
1) tighty whitey team with brown skid-marks down the back
2) Village People
3) Disco Girls
4) Super Hero team with Wonder Woman, the Flash, Batgirl and Supergirl
Race Time
We kicked off at 7:30 a.m., two full hours behind the 50k and 50 milers (who are still out there, or most of them anyways, flippin solid dudes and ladies given what I saw today!), and an hour behind the marathoners. Based on my early season training, at one point, I considered (for about 15 minutes) doing the full marathon, but then I saw the race results (the back end of the top 10%, where I often finish, were coming in around 4:45 or so) and decided I wasn't ready for nearly 5 hours yet. At start time, it was probably about mid-70's with about 80% humidity. I wore a fuel belt with 2x 8oz water bottles and two sport bean packs.
Anyways, the course has about a 1/2 mile in sand/gravel road bed, crosses two streams that were steeple-chase-esque (a lot of wet feet) and headed up hell, I mean hill, for the next two miles (somewhere around 700 or 800 feet of gain in that distance). I positioned myself near the front and got off to a pretty good pace. The uphill was basically single-file so had to strategically choose spots for passing. My legs had responded well to the backing off I had done the last few days (were still pretty trashed as late as Wed. from Insanity jump squat stuff every day for the last 6 weeks) and I found a nice rhythm with a small group of about 6 guys as we went up the hill. Cresting, it was flattened out a bit before hitting a very technical and fast downhill on a mix of Baraboo quartzite and roots/branches that crossed the Ice Age Trail.
At about 4 miles, the group had disintegrated, we hit the first "official" aid station (a water stop was at about mile 3) with gatorade and gels, which I skipped (had about 7 sport beans and water), and headed to a 5-mile loop before heading back down the way we came. The other guy who stayed with me was strong and kept at a solid clip while I took some beans and kept it steady. As a note, this was my longest (by 3x) trail run, and while I felt good so far, my feet and ankles were taking a beating. My agility was overall pretty good, my quads/hammys were fine, but my lower legs were not used to the small movements necessary to keep things balanced and [mostly] not falling.
The loop took us out over the South Bluff of the Devil's Lake before working our way back to Devil's Head ski resort (start/finish). Like many others, I kept going along the bluff, when should have turned right on a [poorly] marked 1/2M trail. It added about a half mile to my run, but I heard others added as much as 1.5 miles. After conversing with about 6 other guys who made the same mistake, we found the right path and were on my way. After getting passed by a guy with 5-finger-shoes, I didn't see but 4 or 5 other people the rest of the race. My stomach wasn't feeling great at this stage, so didn't eat anything else (pretty common for me, need to figure this out for my fall marathon as this stomach-shutdown is a problem due to high intensity).
By the time we hit the decent, my feet were pretty tired, though legs felt good. The long 2-mile decent was actually the least favorite of the race. It took careful maneuvering to avoid the rocks and roots and even then I wiped out once (and nearly 3 other times) achieving some road rash for my efforts (saw some nice other ones at the finish). Finally made my way to the finish, hard running in the sandy last 1/2 mile passed one or two who were shutting down from dehydration and finished in 2:02:5X. This was good enough for 6th in my AG (not sure how many) and 38 out of nearly (+/-, I forget which) 500 entrants. I really had no hard expectations going into this race, and considering my extra 1/2 mile, was pretty happy w/ my results. Probably could have moved up about 10 spots OA and 2 AG without the wrong turn.
Post-Script
My wife also finished 6th in her AG, though finished a while behind me. After a post-race shower at the finish line, I finished my 1.5 bags of beans and felt better. Only two extra blisters for my efforts. Awesome race (minus one poorly marked turn), great organization, and one we plan to do again. I have to give major, major props to the volunteers and those still out there doing the long races.
Sand
Footballguy
You are a much, much better man than I.----
On my end I ended up doing a training ride today folks were doing for 6 Gap. So we did 60 miles of nothing but hills. I think we hit 4-5,000 vertical feet of climbing this morning. Legs=toast.
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Thanks for the well wishes. Don't have time to write much. Today went better than I ever imagined possible. Absolutely crushed my stretch goal. Wasn't passed by a single person in the 2nd half of the run and probably passed 50 in a field of 400. Owned the hills in the second half and felt better and stronger as the event progressed. My struggle patch was a flattish section in the mile 10-13 range. Watching people walk the hills just motivated me to run them harder. I was actually looking forward to them as an opportunity to pass more people. Mile 18, 20, 22 all came and went and I only felt stronger.
I'll post a full report early next week. Taking the family whitewater rafting in the morning before returning home.
I'll post a full report early next week. Taking the family whitewater rafting in the morning before returning home.
yeah...I'll post the details later. I haven't seened anything in a horror movie that would compare.
gruecd
Footballguy
Beer mile yesterday preceded by a warm, humid 17-miler yesterday morning. Having done double-digit mileage each of the previous three days, I was planning on just taking it easy, but I ended up hooking up with a couple of rabbits who wanted to push the pace. Ended up averaging 7:48, but there was a 7-mile stretch in the middle where we averaged 7:30s. Good run.
As for the beer mile itself, my final time was 8:26.39, which was good for second place. Winner went 8-flat. Dude rarely drinks, but he's fast. He actually raced a 5K in 17:53 yesterday morning.
Anyway, here were the splits: 0:17, 1:26, 0:45, 1:32, 0:41, 1:24, 0:53, and 1:26. I was pretty consistent with the running part, but not so much with the drinking.
Hot and humid again today, but I'll get out there at some point for an easy 6-miler to cap off a 70-mile week.
As for the beer mile itself, my final time was 8:26.39, which was good for second place. Winner went 8-flat. Dude rarely drinks, but he's fast. He actually raced a 5K in 17:53 yesterday morning.
Anyway, here were the splits: 0:17, 1:26, 0:45, 1:32, 0:41, 1:24, 0:53, and 1:26. I was pretty consistent with the running part, but not so much with the drinking.
Hot and humid again today, but I'll get out there at some point for an easy 6-miler to cap off a 70-mile week.
gruecd
Footballguy
gruecd
Footballguy
JFT-
Solid work, JFT.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
JFT .. BnB ..great job, guys!! JFT, I've been up to Devil's Lake, so I can picture how hilly it is. I know BnB is always dealing with hills, which explains the strength while running them.
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Finished a vacation week yesterday morning and immediately flew to Tampa for a conference through to Sunday night. I had some good training last week, so didn't even bring my running shoes (brought swim gear, but the big hotel pool doesn't open until 9 a.m. ($^*#$%) After I get back, a bunch of us from the university are running a downtown Chicago 5K on Thursday night, so I'll go into that well rested.
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Finished a vacation week yesterday morning and immediately flew to Tampa for a conference through to Sunday night. I had some good training last week, so didn't even bring my running shoes (brought swim gear, but the big hotel pool doesn't open until 9 a.m. ($^*#$%) After I get back, a bunch of us from the university are running a downtown Chicago 5K on Thursday night, so I'll go into that well rested.
gruecd
Footballguy
Again, chopped liver....Sigh.
Ned
Footballguy
JFT - I'm so jealous. Great RR and congrats on a great run. Trail races are awesome stuff.
BnB - You're a fn warrior.
grue - 4 runs of 10+ in a row??
Had a craptastic weekend of running thanks to the heat. I was due for a blow up, I guess. I did 6 @ MP yesterday that was harder than it should've been, but I managed through. Today was supposed to be 13 which I ended up tucking tail and only doing 10. I felt like turning around and going home after the first mile.
Legs were shot and the sun was killing me.
I ended up losing 4.2 pounds with taking in 32 oz during the run and 40 oz right afterwards. I know I sweat more than most people, but that sweat rate seems crazy. That's 20oz every 15 minutes. Is my math right?
4.2 lb loss = 67.2 oz loss plus 32 oz drink during run is a net loss of 99.2oz
I drank 40oz of gatorade/water when I got home and then weighed myself so the grand total water loss is 139.2.
139.2oz / 103 minutes running = 1.35oz per minute.
1.35 * 15 = 20.27oz
BnB - You're a fn warrior.
grue - 4 runs of 10+ in a row??
Had a craptastic weekend of running thanks to the heat. I was due for a blow up, I guess. I did 6 @ MP yesterday that was harder than it should've been, but I managed through. Today was supposed to be 13 which I ended up tucking tail and only doing 10. I felt like turning around and going home after the first mile.
Legs were shot and the sun was killing me.I ended up losing 4.2 pounds with taking in 32 oz during the run and 40 oz right afterwards. I know I sweat more than most people, but that sweat rate seems crazy. That's 20oz every 15 minutes. Is my math right?
4.2 lb loss = 67.2 oz loss plus 32 oz drink during run is a net loss of 99.2oz
I drank 40oz of gatorade/water when I got home and then weighed myself so the grand total water loss is 139.2.
139.2oz / 103 minutes running = 1.35oz per minute.
1.35 * 15 = 20.27oz
Sand
Footballguy
Grue - Woohoo! Good job! Awesome effort!Again, chopped liver....Sigh.
BnB - 
JFT - excellent job, man. (BTW, by beans you mean jelly beans, yes?)
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sho nuff
Footballguy
Finished about 14 miles on the bike in the midday heat. I think the heat index was around 98 when I left. Bottle on the bike, and 2 bottles on the fuel belt (9oz each, one with gatorade).
It was hot, but after the 6 running yesterday, felt good to get back out. Just my only good day for riding...too hard to do during the week with a wife who works later.
It was hot, but after the 6 running yesterday, felt good to get back out. Just my only good day for riding...too hard to do during the week with a wife who works later.
sports_fan
Footballguy
2 miles this morning in 18:05. My knee and form held up pretty well. That made for 4 runs on the week for a total of 5.8 miles in 51:37. I'm getting close to the point where my conditioning is holding me back more than my weak knee. Feels great to be back at it.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
There is an interesting article in runners world this month about running in the heat. It really is an issue. I will start my made up HR running tomorrow and see how it goes. I never thought I would be looking at a calendar trying to figure out when I would have enough moonlight to run at night.JFT - I'm so jealous. Great RR and congrats on a great run. Trail races are awesome stuff.BnB - You're a fn warrior.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
Anyone have a link to a cheap fuel belt? I am still going with out one and maybe it would help. Saturday I ran out of water. I was running past a church. I think assembly of God? I went in and asked if I could fill my bottle. They said sure but then tried to convert me with living water. Not a big deal but I would rather have enough water to avoid those situations. There was a bar 1/4 mile further down the road but, well you know.
gruecd
Footballguy
Well, not exactly...I did two (2) doubles totaling 10 miles each. Week in review:grue - 4 runs of 10+ in a row??
M: 0.94 warmup at 9:37 pace, 13.1 miles at 7:09
T: rest
W: double--4 miles at 8:30, 6 miles at 8:24
T: 12 miles at 7:54
F: double--6 recovery at 8:46, 4 rec at 8:42
S: 17 miles at 7:48, beer mile in 8:26
S: 6 rec at 8:48
Total: 70.04
I start my 12-week Pfitz program for Milwaukee tomorrow.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
JFT -- Awesome job. Sounds like a cool race.
BnB -- Looking forward to the full write-up. Glad everything went well, and it sounds like you had a phenomenal run.
gruecd -- I like how you're easing into your marathon cycle with a nice, easy 70-mile week.
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Got in 7 w/ 4 @ LT earlier today. I really should have done this in the morning, but I was up late last night and wanted to sleep in. As a result I ended up doing this after church, and by that time it was pushing 90 with ~80% humidity. I made it through and hit my splits as planned, but obviously it was tougher than normal. When I finished the LT portion and slowed down for the last cool-down segment, I had to stop and walk briefly to get my everything back under control, but that's to be expected I guess.
BnB -- Looking forward to the full write-up. Glad everything went well, and it sounds like you had a phenomenal run.
gruecd -- I like how you're easing into your marathon cycle with a nice, easy 70-mile week.
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Got in 7 w/ 4 @ LT earlier today. I really should have done this in the morning, but I was up late last night and wanted to sleep in. As a result I ended up doing this after church, and by that time it was pushing 90 with ~80% humidity. I made it through and hit my splits as planned, but obviously it was tougher than normal. When I finished the LT portion and slowed down for the last cool-down segment, I had to stop and walk briefly to get my everything back under control, but that's to be expected I guess.
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gruecd
Footballguy
My thinking is that I can actually drop back on the quantity a little bit (60 this week) now that I'll start to add back some quality. Nice tempo run, by the way.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Ah! Just shoot me now. I got focused on the 17 mile training run and not the beer mile event (somehow didn't pick up on that concept, if you had explained it earlier). I'm already channeling your next marathon ...can't get distracted with beer miles!Again, chopped liver....Sigh.
Ned
Footballguy
It's not cheap, but the flexibility of the Amphipod RunLites is awesome. I got the RunLite 4 and love it. The bottles clip in/out easily and are made well. You can add/subtract bottles as you need. The pockets are just right. There's a nice little 'hidden' pocket up front that can fit a key fob and a few keys.
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Sand
Footballguy
5 mile run today after a week layoff due to Achilles problems. 8:53/mile - which is typically well off of my typical pace, but after being about 96 this afternoon it dumped rain and cooled down to 86 with 95+% humidity. Oof. Might as well have jumped in a pool for as wet as I was running back in. On the better side I did manage 150 miles on the bike this week. That's a lot for me.
Sand
Footballguy
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