Ran a 10k in June (4 Viewers)

[pmbrown_22]

The_Man - Tough call. I will echo what others have said. I guess it does not hurt to look. If you were completely satisfied at your current job, then you would not even be considering looking or applying. Also, if you pass this opportunity up, what is the chance of something like this coming back around. I also agree with think of your family first as for most companies, loyalty is only for that days work. The company will not necessarily be loyal to you so you do not have to be loyal to them.

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Yesterday I actually challenged myself and ran a double. I was kind of making up for the rain on Tuesday and got 4 miles on the treadmill and then 8 more miles last night. I had wanted to do 10, but my legs were just not into it. I felt pretty good afterward, but I did not want to push it too much and hurt. Going back out today for about 5 miles recovery and hope to freshen up the legs. I am feeling pretty tired though so it may just be a rest day.

Have a great day all.

 

[The_Man]

Thanks for the advice on the job front. In thinking about what some of you have said - try to get the offer and then see if my current place would match it - if I were to go to my boss and tell him that I had been offered the job by the other place, it would be such a big betrayal that he would probably just terminate me immediately. I don't want to be that guy, especially since the people here have been so good to me. I think I'm going to have to go the Billy Beane route from "Moneyball" and just try to compete against the big boys with fewer resources. My cousin is a headhunter in my field, so I'm going to try to talk to him today for his viewpoint, but my strong sense is that I'll not apply, but rather take the info to my boss and try to get him to up the resources for my department. I appreciate everyone helping me think this through -- there really is more to life than money and prestige, and the year I've been here has probably been the most satisfying I've had in my career from a work/life balance standpoint.

5 more easy miles for me today, doing 8 on Saturday then a 5-mile "fun run" with my wife Sunday and then the taper gets really steep. Feeling so fit right now!

 

[Ned]

Thanks for the advice on the job front. In thinking about what some of you have said - try to get the offer and then see if my current place would match it - if I were to go to my boss and tell him that I had been offered the job by the other place, it would be such a big betrayal that he would probably just terminate me immediately. I don't want to be that guy, especially since the people here have been so good to me. I think I'm going to have to go the Billy Beane route from "Moneyball" and just try to compete against the big boys with fewer resources. My cousin is a headhunter in my field, so I'm going to try to talk to him today for his viewpoint, but my strong sense is that I'll not apply, but rather take the info to my boss and try to get him to up the resources for my department. I appreciate everyone helping me think this through -- there really is more to life than money and prestige, and the year I've been here has probably been the most satisfying I've had in my career from a work/life balance standpoint.

5 more easy miles for me today, doing 8 on Saturday then a 5-mile "fun run" with my wife Sunday and then the taper gets really steep. Feeling so fit right now!

I'm learning the bolded more and more each day. Work to live, not live to work.

 

[sho nuff]

Thanks for the advice on the job front. In thinking about what some of you have said - try to get the offer and then see if my current place would match it - if I were to go to my boss and tell him that I had been offered the job by the other place, it would be such a big betrayal that he would probably just terminate me immediately. I don't want to be that guy, especially since the people here have been so good to me. I think I'm going to have to go the Billy Beane route from "Moneyball" and just try to compete against the big boys with fewer resources. My cousin is a headhunter in my field, so I'm going to try to talk to him today for his viewpoint, but my strong sense is that I'll not apply, but rather take the info to my boss and try to get him to up the resources for my department. I appreciate everyone helping me think this through -- there really is more to life than money and prestige, and the year I've been here has probably been the most satisfying I've had in my career from a work/life balance standpoint.

5 more easy miles for me today, doing 8 on Saturday then a 5-mile "fun run" with my wife Sunday and then the taper gets really steep. Feeling so fit right now!

I'm learning the bolded more and more each day. Work to live, not live to work.

Wife and I are even considering me becoming a stay at home dad (she has no interest in staying home and Im not ashamed to say does make more than I do...she would go crazy being home all day).

Im looking forward to more time with the kids and when my daughter does go to a "mothers day out" program for 2-3 days...more good quality training for me that does not cut into my time with the family at night.

 

[wraith5]

Thanks for the advice on the job front. In thinking about what some of you have said - try to get the offer and then see if my current place would match it - if I were to go to my boss and tell him that I had been offered the job by the other place, it would be such a big betrayal that he would probably just terminate me immediately. I don't want to be that guy, especially since the people here have been so good to me. I think I'm going to have to go the Billy Beane route from "Moneyball" and just try to compete against the big boys with fewer resources. My cousin is a headhunter in my field, so I'm going to try to talk to him today for his viewpoint, but my strong sense is that I'll not apply, but rather take the info to my boss and try to get him to up the resources for my department. I appreciate everyone helping me think this through -- there really is more to life than money and prestige, and the year I've been here has probably been the most satisfying I've had in my career from a work/life balance standpoint.5 more easy miles for me today, doing 8 on Saturday then a 5-mile "fun run" with my wife Sunday and then the taper gets really steep. Feeling so fit right now!

As a professional recruiter since 1997, I will tell you there is no clear-cut answer, and "listening to your gut" can be tough when there are competing interests going on in your own head. 1) BnB makes an excellent point - do you have a non-compete in place that would prevent you from going to this competitor? If so, that simplifies things really quickly. 2) It sounds like there are some less than ideal things at your current place, some of which aren't what you signed up for:

... one of the reasons I came here was because I reported to the head of the institution and that got taken away during a restructuring over the summer... now I report through the #2 guy. ... I would definitely have more resources to do my job than I currently do. And it would provide some other things that would benefit my family.

How much does it bother/hinder you to be reporting to #2 now? Are you under-resourced currently? If you have what you need and are happy with it, that's one thing. If your situation restricts you from doing the kind of work you want/need to be, that's another. 3) Do you think the grass is really greener at the other place? Is it another high-stress environment? Do you want the responsibilities (and potential headaches) of having 3 direct reports? Can you envision yourself being happier there? If you make the move, what next? Would you be there for many, many years and be happy about it? Would you be happy long-term at your current place? 4) If you approach your manager or the #1 guy about this other job, are you putting yourself at risk? Personally, I might interpret your knowledge of the job as a potential flight risk in and of itself. If you can really present it as an "I was approached/made aware of this" type thing, that puts you in a better position. But what's the upside? Do you really think things would change at your current company as a result? This is really important, because otherwise you're just hanging a sign around your neck that says "considering leaving," and it won't go away easily. 5) If you decide to interview, and they make an offer, do NOT take it to your management looking for a counter-offer. Either accept it and leave, or quietly decline. Taking a counter-offer almost certainly burns a bridge with the other company and puts that "considering leaving" sign around your neck permanently at your current place. Long-term, no good comes from that road. If you want to talk just let me know.

 

[pigskinliquors]

The_Man: only you truly know what's best for you and yours. If you don't think you can apply without your company knowing about it, it certainly changes the game. Yet, if you can apply without them knowing, I don't see how it could hurt you to apply. IF the other company's offer is better you are golden. If not, you stay put. Certainly your call.

I wussed out this morning. I was tired and it was cold out. I decided to postpone my ride until this afternoon when it will be warmer, and I'll be better rested and hydrated. I'll make myself pay for not getting it done earlier.

 

[wraith5]

PSL - how are the arms/chest feeling after your push-up marathon?

 

[pigskinliquors]

PSL - how are the arms/chest feeling after your push-up marathon?

Not bad at all. My typical push-up workout arguably makes them feel worse the next day. I usually do 20-19-18-17...1 with a minute or less between the start of every subsequent set (time to do the pushups are on the clock) for a total of 210. For some reason, 14 is a hard one to get through, and then the arms get really shaky around 5. Doing the 500 over such a long period of time, without any preconceived number to do each set made it fairly easy. I started with 60, then 50, 5 40's, 3 30's and ended up with 2 20's. I never had to push myself, as I quit each set when it started to hurt. Probably not as effective as my 20-19... workout, where you are forced to work through some tough sets. It did take some of the boredom out of my teleconference though!

 

[Ned]

Thanks for the advice on the job front. In thinking about what some of you have said - try to get the offer and then see if my current place would match it - if I were to go to my boss and tell him that I had been offered the job by the other place, it would be such a big betrayal that he would probably just terminate me immediately. I don't want to be that guy, especially since the people here have been so good to me. I think I'm going to have to go the Billy Beane route from "Moneyball" and just try to compete against the big boys with fewer resources. My cousin is a headhunter in my field, so I'm going to try to talk to him today for his viewpoint, but my strong sense is that I'll not apply, but rather take the info to my boss and try to get him to up the resources for my department. I appreciate everyone helping me think this through -- there really is more to life than money and prestige, and the year I've been here has probably been the most satisfying I've had in my career from a work/life balance standpoint.

5 more easy miles for me today, doing 8 on Saturday then a 5-mile "fun run" with my wife Sunday and then the taper gets really steep. Feeling so fit right now!

I'm learning the bolded more and more each day. Work to live, not live to work.

Wife and I are even considering me becoming a stay at home dad (she has no interest in staying home and Im not ashamed to say does make more than I do...she would go crazy being home all day).

Im looking forward to more time with the kids and when my daughter does go to a "mothers day out" program for 2-3 days...more good quality training for me that does not cut into my time with the family at night.

Do it! When we had our second boy, we made the decision to have my wife cut her hours down to one day/week at work. She stays at home with our two and watches our nephew 4 days/week. We wouldn't have it any other way.

 

[sho nuff]

Also saw a sign during the half the other day that I liked.

"1% of the people run 99% of the miles".

 

[wraith5]

PSL - how are the arms/chest feeling after your push-up marathon?

Not bad at all. My typical push-up workout arguably makes them feel worse the next day. I usually do 20-19-18-17...1 with a minute or less between the start of every subsequent set (time to do the pushups are on the clock) for a total of 210. For some reason, 14 is a hard one to get through, and then the arms get really shaky around 5. Doing the 500 over such a long period of time, without any preconceived number to do each set made it fairly easy. I started with 60, then 50, 5 40's, 3 30's and ended up with 2 20's. I never had to push myself, as I quit each set when it started to hurt. Probably not as effective as my 20-19... workout, where you are forced to work through some tough sets. It did take some of the boredom out of my teleconference though!

machine

 

[wraith5]

OK, yesterday was a speedwork day, and while it was a little ugly, I got through it. 3x 1 mile w/400 RI. On Oct 18 I was able to do 7:08, 7:01, 6:54, so I targeted 7s.

1st repeat - 7:03, and my HR hit 193, which is pretty much my max. Not good.

2nd repeat (1st attempt) - 7:28 pace for 1/2 mile and I shut it down. My HR hit 185 and I knew I needed to back off. I walked for 200 meters and regrouped.

2nd repeat (2nd attempt) - 7:37, 183 HR.

3rd repeat - 7:42, 190 HR.

Disappointing only 4 weeks after a great speedwork session, but it's been a rough few weeks physically and I kinda knew I was going to struggle.

So another bike question - do you guys keep biking outside when it's below freezing? It's 30 degrees here today and I'm really tempted to just put the bike on the trainer...

 

[2Young2BBald]

OK, yesterday was a speedwork day, and while it was a little ugly, I got through it. 3x 1 mile w/400 RI. On Oct 18 I was able to do 7:08, 7:01, 6:54, so I targeted 7s. 1st repeat - 7:03, and my HR hit 193, which is pretty much my max. Not good. 2nd repeat (1st attempt) - 7:28 pace for 1/2 mile and I shut it down. My HR hit 185 and I knew I needed to back off. I walked for 200 meters and regrouped. 2nd repeat (2nd attempt) - 7:37, 183 HR. 3rd repeat - 7:42, 190 HR. Disappointing only 4 weeks after a great speedwork session, but it's been a rough few weeks physically and I kinda knew I was going to struggle. So another bike question - do you guys keep biking outside when it's below freezing? It's 30 degrees here today and I'm really tempted to just put the bike on the trainer...

I'd pop it on the trainer. Any type of condensation can freeze up on painted lines on the pavement, even though the pavement looks fine. A guy I have trained with (and is one of the top triathletes in the state) laid his bike down this past March, shattering several areas in in arm due to this (pins, surgery, etc). It was a sunny day and the pavement was dry, but that little bit of moisture on the marked bike lane caused a wreck. Just my

 

[pigskinliquors]

So another bike question - do you guys keep biking outside when it's below freezing? It's 30 degrees here today and I'm really tempted to just put the bike on the trainer...

I'd pop it on the trainer.

One of the big downsides of biking is that cold weather sucks. It sucks for comfort and for safety. Being a trainer is a slow death for me, but needed on days that the weather doesn't cooperate.Regarding your speed work. Lots of things can change your mojo for speed days. Don't get down. Getting that type of workout in will certainly make future runs easier!

 

[2Young2BBald]

Just got the Costco Thanksgiving Weekend flyer. They'll have the Garmin 410, with HRM for $219.99 after an instant $60 rebate. I don't need one, but it sure would be nice to have the 410 for just running.

 

[culdeus]

Wapo Article on Triathlete Deaths

This past summer, at least nine people in the United States died, a number that appears to be a record in a sport experiencing a boom similar to what occurred with running in the 1970s. More than 243,000 people competed in 2,500 triathlons in 2010. USA Triathlon, an organization of competitors, race directors and coaches, has 150,000 members; in 2000 it had 21,300.

Whether nine is a complete count of fatalities isn’t known. USA Triathlon, which keeps track of deaths in the 2,500 races it sanctions, won’t provide the numbers. It has, however, recently appointed a panel of three physicians and two race directors to look into them.

All but one of the nine deaths occurred in the swim portion of the races. The one exception was a 59-year-old Arlington man, John Park, who collapsed shortly after starting the bike event in the Nation’s Triathlon, which was held in the District on Sept. 11. A similar preponderance was seen in the only rigorous analysis of triathlon deaths, which appeared last year in the Journal of the American Medical Association. Researchers at the University of Minnesota found 14 deaths from 2006 through 2008. Thirteen occurred in the water.

In most of those cases, as in this year’s, drowning was the official cause of death. In about half, some minor heart abnormality was found and cited as a possible contributor. The most common was thickening of the heart muscle, which can be a normal consequence of training, and atherosclerosis, which is present in virtually all adults.

 

[wraith5]

So another bike question - do you guys keep biking outside when it's below freezing? It's 30 degrees here today and I'm really tempted to just put the bike on the trainer...

I'd pop it on the trainer.

One of the big downsides of biking is that cold weather sucks. It sucks for comfort and for safety. Being a trainer is a slow death for me, but needed on days that the weather doesn't cooperate.Regarding your speed work. Lots of things can change your mojo for speed days. Don't get down. Getting that type of workout in will certainly make future runs easier!

Good deal - now I know I'm being smart, not a wuss, for bringing the bike inside. It's just been a rough month for my running. I figure I'm better off for pushing through even if it wasn't pretty - like you said, it'll pay off if I stick with it.

 

[2Young2BBald]

So another bike question - do you guys keep biking outside when it's below freezing? It's 30 degrees here today and I'm really tempted to just put the bike on the trainer...

I'd pop it on the trainer.

One of the big downsides of biking is that cold weather sucks. It sucks for comfort and for safety. Being a trainer is a slow death for me, but needed on days that the weather doesn't cooperate.

Regarding your speed work. Lots of things can change your mojo for speed days. Don't get down. Getting that type of workout in will certainly make future runs easier!

Good deal - now I know I'm being smart, not a wuss, for bringing the bike inside. It's just been a rough month for my running. I figure I'm better off for pushing through even if it wasn't pretty - like you said, it'll pay off if I stick with it.

GET IN THE POOL Between injuries and general burnout, the pool has been a lifesaver the last month or so.

 

[prosopis]

The_Man - Tough call. I will echo what others have said. I guess it does not hurt to look. If you were completely satisfied at your current job, then you would not even be considering looking or applying. Also, if you pass this opportunity up, what is the chance of something like this coming back around. I also agree with think of your family first as for most companies, loyalty is only for that days work. The company will not necessarily be loyal to you so you do not have to be loyal to them.

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Yesterday I actually challenged myself and ran a double. I was kind of making up for the rain on Tuesday and got 4 miles on the treadmill and then 8 more miles last night. I had wanted to do 10, but my legs were just not into it. I felt pretty good afterward, but I did not want to push it too much and hurt. Going back out today for about 5 miles recovery and hope to freshen up the legs. I am feeling pretty tired though so it may just be a rest day.

Have a great day all.

You say it much nicer then I did.

 

[pmbrown_22]

Did my 5 recovery yesterday. I did not look at my watch and probably went a tad bit faster than I should have, but the legs felt surprisingly great so I went by feel. I have a tough 8 miles today as I am including my favorite downtown hills in them so it will be an iteresting run for me. I am interested to see how they affect me tomorrow as I am planning on 14. Only time will tell.

Have a great day all.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Did my 5 recovery yesterday. I did not look at my watch and probably went a tad bit faster than I should have, but the legs felt surprisingly great so I went by feel.

I'm doing this more often now that I'm solidly into "maintenance" mode. If I'm going to do a recovery run, I just go out and run very easy and leave the Garmin at home. If decide that I want to do a particular run hard, I again leave the Garmin at home and just focus on running at a comfortable-hard effort level. I've found that this is a nice break from the kind of structured training that most of us do. Obviously "running by feel" isn't going to cut it for tempo runs and interval workouts, and I still like knowing my actual pace on long runs.

 

[pmbrown_22]

Did my 5 recovery yesterday. I did not look at my watch and probably went a tad bit faster than I should have, but the legs felt surprisingly great so I went by feel.

I'm doing this more often now that I'm solidly into "maintenance" mode. If I'm going to do a recovery run, I just go out and run very easy and leave the Garmin at home. If decide that I want to do a particular run hard, I again leave the Garmin at home and just focus on running at a comfortable-hard effort level. I've found that this is a nice break from the kind of structured training that most of us do. Obviously "running by feel" isn't going to cut it for tempo runs and interval workouts, and I still like knowing my actual pace on long runs.

Could not agree more. Especially when you have run routes so much you know the mile markers by memory. Makes it a lot easier to just enjoy the run and not make it feel like work.

 

[BassNBrew]

Did my 5 recovery yesterday. I did not look at my watch and probably went a tad bit faster than I should have, but the legs felt surprisingly great so I went by feel.

I'm doing this more often now that I'm solidly into "maintenance" mode. If I'm going to do a recovery run, I just go out and run very easy and leave the Garmin at home. If decide that I want to do a particular run hard, I again leave the Garmin at home and just focus on running at a comfortable-hard effort level. I've found that this is a nice break from the kind of structured training that most of us do. Obviously "running by feel" isn't going to cut it for tempo runs and interval workouts, and I still like knowing my actual pace on long runs.

Could not agree more. Especially when you have run routes so much you know the mile markers by memory. Makes it a lot easier to just enjoy the run and not make it feel like work.

More power to you guys. I get start getting the shakes if I don't have instantaneous access to some data.

 

[ThreeThousand]

Well, I have officially taken the plunge, and signed up for Ironman Florida in November 2012. I went down there this year to volunteer at the finish line as a catcher for a couple of my buddies, and loved the whole vibe and experience. Signed up the next day - $625 (man, what a racket WTC has going, they get to hold $625 from approximately 2,500 athletes for a whole year. Anyone got any idea what the float is on that?).

I'm both excited and terrified at the same time . Time to get back in the pool.

 

[wraith5]

Well, I have officially taken the plunge, and signed up for Ironman Florida in November 2012. I went down there this year to volunteer at the finish line as a catcher for a couple of my buddies, and loved the whole vibe and experience. Signed up the next day - $625 (man, what a racket WTC has going, they get to hold $625 from approximately 2,500 athletes for a whole year. Anyone got any idea what the float is on that?).

I'm both excited and terrified at the same time . Time to get back in the pool.

Congrats! I'm still thinking about a 1/2 IM next year - speaking of which, 2Y we never really did talk much about the one race you mentioned. We should pick that conversation up again sometime...

 

[wraith5]

So another bike question - do you guys keep biking outside when it's below freezing? It's 30 degrees here today and I'm really tempted to just put the bike on the trainer...

I'd pop it on the trainer.

One of the big downsides of biking is that cold weather sucks. It sucks for comfort and for safety. Being a trainer is a slow death for me, but needed on days that the weather doesn't cooperate.

Regarding your speed work. Lots of things can change your mojo for speed days. Don't get down. Getting that type of workout in will certainly make future runs easier!

Good deal - now I know I'm being smart, not a wuss, for bringing the bike inside. It's just been a rough month for my running. I figure I'm better off for pushing through even if it wasn't pretty - like you said, it'll pay off if I stick with it.

GET IN THE POOL Between injuries and general burnout, the pool has been a lifesaver the last month or so.

This is a great suggestion, but easier said than done right now. My office moved in March so I'm significantly further from the pool I joined last year. Too far to realistically go at lunch. I'll either need to find another option (and of course pay for said option) or figure out another time/way to get over to the old place.

 

[Sand]

Well, I have officially taken the plunge, and signed up for Ironman Florida in November 2012. I went down there this year to volunteer at the finish line as a catcher for a couple of my buddies, and loved the whole vibe and experience. Signed up the next day - $625 (man, what a racket WTC has going, they get to hold $625 from approximately 2,500 athletes for a whole year. Anyone got any idea what the float is on that?).

These days pretty much jack squat.

 

[wraith5]

PSL - how are the arms/chest feeling after your push-up marathon?

Not bad at all. My typical push-up workout arguably makes them feel worse the next day. I usually do 20-19-18-17...1 with a minute or less between the start of every subsequent set (time to do the pushups are on the clock) for a total of 210. For some reason, 14 is a hard one to get through, and then the arms get really shaky around 5. Doing the 500 over such a long period of time, without any preconceived number to do each set made it fairly easy. I started with 60, then 50, 5 40's, 3 30's and ended up with 2 20's. I never had to push myself, as I quit each set when it started to hurt. Probably not as effective as my 20-19... workout, where you are forced to work through some tough sets. It did take some of the boredom out of my teleconference though!

I was inspired to try 1/2 of this last night - I did 20, 18, 16... 2 for a total of 110. It wasn't too bad, but there's no way I could do your set

 

[2Young2BBald]

Well, I have officially taken the plunge, and signed up for Ironman Florida in November 2012. I went down there this year to volunteer at the finish line as a catcher for a couple of my buddies, and loved the whole vibe and experience. Signed up the next day - $625 (man, what a racket WTC has going, they get to hold $625 from approximately 2,500 athletes for a whole year. Anyone got any idea what the float is on that?).

I'm both excited and terrified at the same time . Time to get back in the pool.

Congrats! I'm still thinking about a 1/2 IM next year - speaking of which, 2Y we never really did talk much about the one race you mentioned. We should pick that conversation up again sometime...

All indications are pointing towards Rev3 Cedar Point in September. I am doing the 10 Leg Survival Tri again in August too. And, we kicked around the 1/2 at Beach to Battleship on October too. My buddy Mark and I plan on getting together soon to plot next years calendar. I would love to do B2B in a (mandatory) wetsuit with the tide. But, hearing stories of folks basically toppling over on their bikes due to hypothermia this year due to the cold spooks me a bit. I am going to try and get 2 or 3 Spring/early Summer Olys in as tune ups too. Ready to continue the mid-life crisis next year.

 

[BassNBrew]

Well, I have officially taken the plunge, and signed up for Ironman Florida in November 2012. I went down there this year to volunteer at the finish line as a catcher for a couple of my buddies, and loved the whole vibe and experience. Signed up the next day - $625 (man, what a racket WTC has going, they get to hold $625 from approximately 2,500 athletes for a whole year. Anyone got any idea what the float is on that?).

I'm both excited and terrified at the same time . Time to get back in the pool.

Congrats! I'm still thinking about a 1/2 IM next year - speaking of which, 2Y we never really did talk much about the one race you mentioned. We should pick that conversation up again sometime...

All indications are pointing towards Rev3 Cedar Point in September. I am doing the 10 Leg Survival Tri again in August too. And, we kicked around the 1/2 at Beach to Battleship on October too. My buddy Mark and I plan on getting together soon to plot next years calendar. I would love to do B2B in a (mandatory) wetsuit with the tide. But, hearing stories of folks basically toppling over on their bikes due to hypothermia this year due to the cold spooks me a bit. I am going to try and get 2 or 3 Spring/early Summer Olys in as tune ups too. Ready to continue the mid-life crisis next year.

B2B was unseasonably cool this year. You're probably looking at a range of low 50's to low 80's that time of year. Most of the reports I read, people did dress warm enough for the bike.

 

[pigskinliquors]

PSL - how are the arms/chest feeling after your push-up marathon?

Not bad at all. My typical push-up workout arguably makes them feel worse the next day. I usually do 20-19-18-17...1 with a minute or less between the start of every subsequent set (time to do the pushups are on the clock) for a total of 210. For some reason, 14 is a hard one to get through, and then the arms get really shaky around 5. Doing the 500 over such a long period of time, without any preconceived number to do each set made it fairly easy. I started with 60, then 50, 5 40's, 3 30's and ended up with 2 20's. I never had to push myself, as I quit each set when it started to hurt. Probably not as effective as my 20-19... workout, where you are forced to work through some tough sets. It did take some of the boredom out of my teleconference though!

I was inspired to try 1/2 of this last night - I did 20, 18, 16... 2 for a total of 110. It wasn't too bad, but there's no way I could do your set

you forgot to add the word "yet" at the end of your sentence. If you start doing more pushups now, you will inevitably be able to do it!

 

[wraith5]

Well, I have officially taken the plunge, and signed up for Ironman Florida in November 2012. I went down there this year to volunteer at the finish line as a catcher for a couple of my buddies, and loved the whole vibe and experience. Signed up the next day - $625 (man, what a racket WTC has going, they get to hold $625 from approximately 2,500 athletes for a whole year. Anyone got any idea what the float is on that?).

I'm both excited and terrified at the same time . Time to get back in the pool.

Congrats! I'm still thinking about a 1/2 IM next year - speaking of which, 2Y we never really did talk much about the one race you mentioned. We should pick that conversation up again sometime...

All indications are pointing towards Rev3 Cedar Point in September.

 

[Ned]

Did my 5 recovery yesterday. I did not look at my watch and probably went a tad bit faster than I should have, but the legs felt surprisingly great so I went by feel.

I'm doing this more often now that I'm solidly into "maintenance" mode. If I'm going to do a recovery run, I just go out and run very easy and leave the Garmin at home. If decide that I want to do a particular run hard, I again leave the Garmin at home and just focus on running at a comfortable-hard effort level. I've found that this is a nice break from the kind of structured training that most of us do. Obviously "running by feel" isn't going to cut it for tempo runs and interval workouts, and I still like knowing my actual pace on long runs.

Could not agree more. Especially when you have run routes so much you know the mile markers by memory. Makes it a lot easier to just enjoy the run and not make it feel like work.

More power to you guys. I get start getting the shakes if I don't have instantaneous access to some data.

 

[Sand]

Did my 5 recovery yesterday. I did not look at my watch and probably went a tad bit faster than I should have, but the legs felt surprisingly great so I went by feel.

I'm doing this more often now that I'm solidly into "maintenance" mode. If I'm going to do a recovery run, I just go out and run very easy and leave the Garmin at home. If decide that I want to do a particular run hard, I again leave the Garmin at home and just focus on running at a comfortable-hard effort level. I've found that this is a nice break from the kind of structured training that most of us do. Obviously "running by feel" isn't going to cut it for tempo runs and interval workouts, and I still like knowing my actual pace on long runs.

Could not agree more. Especially when you have run routes so much you know the mile markers by memory. Makes it a lot easier to just enjoy the run and not make it feel like work.

More power to you guys. I get start getting the shakes if I don't have instantaneous access to some data.

If I don't have data recording there really isn't any point to going out in the first place.

 

[prosopis]

Did my 5 recovery yesterday. I did not look at my watch and probably went a tad bit faster than I should have, but the legs felt surprisingly great so I went by feel.

I'm doing this more often now that I'm solidly into "maintenance" mode. If I'm going to do a recovery run, I just go out and run very easy and leave the Garmin at home. If decide that I want to do a particular run hard, I again leave the Garmin at home and just focus on running at a comfortable-hard effort level. I've found that this is a nice break from the kind of structured training that most of us do. Obviously "running by feel" isn't going to cut it for tempo runs and interval workouts, and I still like knowing my actual pace on long runs.

Could not agree more. Especially when you have run routes so much you know the mile markers by memory. Makes it a lot easier to just enjoy the run and not make it feel like work.

More power to you guys. I get start getting the shakes if I don't have instantaneous access to some data.

I agree. I gotta have something. I dont know how I ever ran with out the garmin.

 

[2Young2BBald]

Did my 5 recovery yesterday. I did not look at my watch and probably went a tad bit faster than I should have, but the legs felt surprisingly great so I went by feel.

I'm doing this more often now that I'm solidly into "maintenance" mode. If I'm going to do a recovery run, I just go out and run very easy and leave the Garmin at home. If decide that I want to do a particular run hard, I again leave the Garmin at home and just focus on running at a comfortable-hard effort level. I've found that this is a nice break from the kind of structured training that most of us do. Obviously "running by feel" isn't going to cut it for tempo runs and interval workouts, and I still like knowing my actual pace on long runs.

Could not agree more. Especially when you have run routes so much you know the mile markers by memory. Makes it a lot easier to just enjoy the run and not make it feel like work.

More power to you guys. I get start getting the shakes if I don't have instantaneous access to some data.

I agree. I gotta have something. I dont know how I ever ran with out the garmin.

This just remind me, for anyone on Athlinks that hasn't been there recently, its worth a look. They have added all kinds of analytic data. For those not on Athlinks, go take a look. Its an awesome tool to keep track of all your races.

 

[tri-man 47]

If I don't have data recording there really isn't any point to going out in the first place.

No, I disagree. If we take the approach that everything needs to be timed and recorded, then we'll be less inclined to do certain training. E.g., we might not do hill repeats to strengthen the legs; we might not do some focused accelerations to improve leg rotation, long stride, or full kick; we might resist the long, slow run that develops the capillaries and improves our VO2 capacity. When we're constantly recording, we get in the mindset of covering x amount of distance in x amount of time. That can certainly be effective. But I find great benefit and enjoyment in other training aspects.

 

[gruecd]

If I don't have data recording there really isn't any point to going out in the first place.

No, I disagree. If we take the approach that everything needs to be timed and recorded, then we'll be less inclined to do certain training. E.g., we might not do hill repeats to strengthen the legs; we might not do some focused accelerations to improve leg rotation, long stride, or full kick; we might resist the long, slow run that develops the capillaries and improves our VO2 capacity. When we're constantly recording, we get in the mindset of covering x amount of distance in x amount of time. That can certainly be effective. But I find great benefit and enjoyment in other training aspects.

Well, you're weird.

 

[prosopis]

If I don't have data recording there really isn't any point to going out in the first place.

No, I disagree. If we take the approach that everything needs to be timed and recorded, then we'll be less inclined to do certain training. E.g., we might not do hill repeats to strengthen the legs; we might not do some focused accelerations to improve leg rotation, long stride, or full kick; we might resist the long, slow run that develops the capillaries and improves our VO2 capacity. When we're constantly recording, we get in the mindset of covering x amount of distance in x amount of time. That can certainly be effective. But I find great benefit and enjoyment in other training aspects.

I just like to see the route mapped out when I am done. I like to see how far I went. I have pretty much accepted that I am not one of the fast guys but I like to see what I did and not be guessing.

 

[Ned]

Vitamins C and fluids have been the focus today. I caught one of the kids colds. I've dodged two bouts of strep throat and I don't know how many colds over the past few weeks to only catch this ####### thing two days out. I did a 4mi recovery run today and had issues breathing. We shall see, I guess.

 

[sho nuff]

Did 7 miles today.

Was not sure if I was going to go 6 or 8 and just went on how I was feeling.

7 felt good...but my right calf tightened up in that last mile so I cut it off there rather than push more.

Knee felt good. Think the hills last week did something...have not been able to really tell where it was really hurting...a bit in front/lower part of my knee...some on the outside (yeah, sounded like IT issues from reading what I was feeling).

No problems today though with that.

Foam roller coming out tomorrow for the calf though.

 

[tri-man 47]

Vitamins C and fluids have been the focus today. I caught one of the kids colds. I've dodged two bouts of strep throat and I don't know how many colds over the past few weeks to only catch this ####### thing two days out. I did a 4mi recovery run today and had issues breathing. We shall see, I guess.

If it doesn't settle in the chest, I expect you'll be fine. You've got a goal, and you put together a well-thought out strategy. Now it's just a matter tactics. Be flexible as things develop ...and enjoy!

 

[prosopis]

Vitamins C and fluids have been the focus today. I caught one of the kids colds. I've dodged two bouts of strep throat and I don't know how many colds over the past few weeks to only catch this ####### thing two days out. I did a 4mi recovery run today and had issues breathing. We shall see, I guess.

Good luck tomorrow. I had trouble signing up to track you but I will have you in my thoughts.

 

[sho nuff]

Big GL Ned.

 

[SteelCurtain]

Been gone for a bit and need to get back into the groove of running.

I stopped in to see if there was any update with Ned and his marathon. I'm really hoping it is going well.

 

[SteelCurtain]

Ok....found him.

10K time is 56:05

Half Marathon is 1:57:40

30K time is 2:49:34.

Net finish time is 4:05:54.

Great job Ned! Isn't that 40 minutes faster than your first marathon? Way to go!

 

[tri-man 47]

Ok....found him.

10K time is 56:05

Half Marathon is 1:57:40

30K time is 2:49:34.

Net finish time is 4:05:54.

Great job Ned! Isn't that 40 minutes faster than your first marathon? Way to go!

Thanks, SC. So generally steady 9 minute miles, then some slippage at the end? That's a significant improvement over the previous effort! I wonder what the effect was of getting a cold a couple of days ago.Well done, Ned! Looking forward to some details!!!

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Ok....found him.

10K time is 56:05

Half Marathon is 1:57:40

30K time is 2:49:34.

Net finish time is 4:05:54.

Great job Ned! Isn't that 40 minutes faster than your first marathon? Way to go!

I just came in here hoping somebody would have an update on Ned. Thanks for tracking this down. Nice job, Ned. That's a gigantic improvement over Marathon #1. I'm looking forward to hearing your reflections on all of this.

 

[gruecd]

Ok....found him.

10K time is 56:05

Half Marathon is 1:57:40

30K time is 2:49:34.

Net finish time is 4:05:54.

Great job Ned! Isn't that 40 minutes faster than your first marathon? Way to go!

Way to go, Ned! Congrats!!

 

[wraith5]

Ok....found him.

10K time is 56:05

Half Marathon is 1:57:40

30K time is 2:49:34.

Net finish time is 4:05:54.

Great job Ned! Isn't that 40 minutes faster than your first marathon? Way to go!

Way to go, Ned! Congrats!!

Great job Ned - looking forward to reading your update!