Ran a 10k in June (6 Viewers)

[pigskinliquors]

Still gonna run 9mi tomorrow

That's the spirit!

 

[Two Deep]

Did you ever think running in excess is bad for the ticker?

No. The benefits outweigh any issues by massive amounts. There was a good article out there (too lazy to find) that talked about how hearts only have a certain number of beats in their useful life. Running drops your resting HR to the point that your daily number of beats is much lower than a sedentary person and provides for a longer life expectancy. My resting HR is now down into the high 40s - a huge improvement over a few years ago.

How far do you run and what is your heart rate during your run? I'm all for exercise, but like anything else moderation makes sense. I can't believe running the miles I read in here are good for overall health.

I'm curious where you're going with this, so I'll take the bait. I'd love to understand why roughly 1 hour/day of cardio is excessive.

1 hour a day isn't. Go back to your post # 29810 where you post this in response to a post from another member, you will see he is far exceeding your 1 hr a day. My initial post is directly below that. Running the kind of numbers he is talking about, couple that with the many others in here who train for marathons and run excessive amounts of miles/ hours, makes me wonder if it is good for overall health when done in excess. That's it. You don't have to agree. Everyone has their own belief's.

 

[Ned]

Did you ever think running in excess is bad for the ticker?

No. The benefits outweigh any issues by massive amounts. There was a good article out there (too lazy to find) that talked about how hearts only have a certain number of beats in their useful life. Running drops your resting HR to the point that your daily number of beats is much lower than a sedentary person and provides for a longer life expectancy. My resting HR is now down into the high 40s - a huge improvement over a few years ago.

How far do you run and what is your heart rate during your run? I'm all for exercise, but like anything else moderation makes sense. I can't believe running the miles I read in here are good for overall health.

I'm curious where you're going with this, so I'll take the bait. I'd love to understand why roughly 1 hour/day of cardio is excessive.

1 hour a day isn't. Go back to your post # 29810 where you post this in response to a post from another member, you will see he is far exceeding your 1 hr a day. My initial post is directly below that. Running the kind of numbers he is talking about, couple that with the many others in here who train for marathons and run excessive amounts of miles/ hours, makes me wonder if it is good for overall health when done in excess. That's it. You don't have to agree. Everyone has their own belief's.

I figured you were fishing since it seemed to come out of left field, but it's all good.You're assuming that he's doing this all the time. This training comes in cycles with the rest of the time being shorter maintenance type running. I'm willing to wager the 1hr/day is a fair average for most in here, when looking at the big picture. I've done 2 marathon cycles in 2011 so I pulled up my training log. From 1/1/11 to today, I'm averaging 1:11 per run, so per day would be even less. Some days are longer than others. Some are no running at all. I don't think it's anywhere near as excessive as you're thinking it is.

 

[2Young2BBald]

Did you ever think running in excess is bad for the ticker?

No. The benefits outweigh any issues by massive amounts. There was a good article out there (too lazy to find) that talked about how hearts only have a certain number of beats in their useful life. Running drops your resting HR to the point that your daily number of beats is much lower than a sedentary person and provides for a longer life expectancy. My resting HR is now down into the high 40s - a huge improvement over a few years ago.

How far do you run and what is your heart rate during your run? I'm all for exercise, but like anything else moderation makes sense. I can't believe running the miles I read in here are good for overall health.

I'm curious where you're going with this, so I'll take the bait. I'd love to understand why roughly 1 hour/day of cardio is excessive.

1 hour a day isn't. Go back to your post # 29810 where you post this in response to a post from another member, you will see he is far exceeding your 1 hr a day. My initial post is directly below that. Running the kind of numbers he is talking about, couple that with the many others in here who train for marathons and run excessive amounts of miles/ hours, makes me wonder if it is good for overall health when done in excess. That's it. You don't have to agree. Everyone has their own belief's.

If you go back and follow those that are logging the most miles, they are also religiously following plans that have built mileage over time. Peak weeks like what you read are just that, peaks, not the norm for anyone. Personally, I think the benefits are there. I have a "family history" of heart disease. Having read about Alberto Salazar having a heart attack, I make sure to see my Doc for an annual and this year he sent me for an Echocardiogram. At 43, everything looked and sounded perfect. I eat and drink wrong, so my training routine has not only benefited my ticker, it allows me to have a few vices as well.

 

[pigskinliquors]

...Running the kind of numbers he is talking about, couple that with the many others in here who train for marathons and run excessive amounts of miles/ hours, makes me wonder if it is good for overall health when done in excess. That's it. You don't have to agree. Everyone has their own belief's.

This link will help shed some light on this. I'm the 40 year old triathlete, TriMan is the 70 year old, and the other MRI is likely what non-believer's will look like.

 

[tri-man 47]

Did you ever think running in excess is bad for the ticker?

No. The benefits outweigh any issues by massive amounts. There was a good article out there (too lazy to find) that talked about how hearts only have a certain number of beats in their useful life. Running drops your resting HR to the point that your daily number of beats is much lower than a sedentary person and provides for a longer life expectancy. My resting HR is now down into the high 40s - a huge improvement over a few years ago.

How far do you run and what is your heart rate during your run? I'm all for exercise, but like anything else moderation makes sense. I can't believe running the miles I read in here are good for overall health.

I'm curious where you're going with this, so I'll take the bait. I'd love to understand why roughly 1 hour/day of cardio is excessive.

1 hour a day isn't. Go back to your post # 29810 where you post this in response to a post from another member, you will see he is far exceeding your 1 hr a day. My initial post is directly below that. Running the kind of numbers he is talking about, couple that with the many others in here who train for marathons and run excessive amounts of miles/ hours, makes me wonder if it is good for overall health when done in excess. That's it. You don't have to agree. Everyone has their own belief's.

Two Deep - While I did back to back marathons last spring (my 4th and 5th overall), I don't enjoy that training because I feel it risks being physically excessive for the body and it distorts the balance with the rest of my life. I do NOT consider it bad for the heart, though. Endurance running is all about improving the heart's efficiency (as Sand notes), and the long runs are intentionally done at an aerobic pace ...a pace the heart can handle. Is it harder on the heart to run 3-4 hours at a moderate pace or 20-25 minutes (5K distance) near the max? Don't know. Any exercise that elevates the HR can be beneficial, but we all need to keep the right perspective about it and know our bodies well enough to react and respond.

 

[Two Deep]

Thanks for the education, I'll look into some of these training regiments you all speak of. I'm a two miler a day guy.

 

[17seconds]

Thanks for the education, I'll look into some of these training regiments you all speak of. I'm a two miler a day guy.

One thing that really surprised me getting into marathon training is the slow pace you do for these 10mi+ runs. If you are running your 2 miles at 9min per mile your long run distance training would be at somewhere around 10:30 pace, running comfortably the whole time. Intense workouts are for shorter distances. I think most newbies (including myself) had the impression that marathoners are running 20+ miles at a pace where you feel like you are in an aerobics class. Not even close.

 

[scoobygang]

Trying to get back in a program (have a Ten Mile race in April), but I'm having an awful time preventing IT band issues right now. I pretty much have to spend 10-15 minutes a night with a foam roller just to keep from breaking down. Highly annoying.

 

[Ned]

Thanks for the education, I'll look into some of these training regiments you all speak of. I'm a two miler a day guy.

Tons of varying degrees of experience here. Everyone's here to help.

 

[tri-man 47]

...Running the kind of numbers he is talking about, couple that with the many others in here who train for marathons and run excessive amounts of miles/ hours, makes me wonder if it is good for overall health when done in excess. That's it. You don't have to agree. Everyone has their own belief's.

This link will help shed some light on this. I'm the 40 year old triathlete, TriMan is the 70 year old, and the other MRI is likely what non-believer's will look like.

Wow! Wait, what?

 

[sho nuff]

Did you ever think running in excess is bad for the ticker?

No. The benefits outweigh any issues by massive amounts. There was a good article out there (too lazy to find) that talked about how hearts only have a certain number of beats in their useful life. Running drops your resting HR to the point that your daily number of beats is much lower than a sedentary person and provides for a longer life expectancy. My resting HR is now down into the high 40s - a huge improvement over a few years ago.

How far do you run and what is your heart rate during your run? I'm all for exercise, but like anything else moderation makes sense. I can't believe running the miles I read in here are good for overall health.

I'm curious where you're going with this, so I'll take the bait. I'd love to understand why roughly 1 hour/day of cardio is excessive.

1 hour a day isn't. Go back to your post # 29810 where you post this in response to a post from another member, you will see he is far exceeding your 1 hr a day. My initial post is directly below that. Running the kind of numbers he is talking about, couple that with the many others in here who train for marathons and run excessive amounts of miles/ hours, makes me wonder if it is good for overall health when done in excess. That's it. You don't have to agree. Everyone has their own belief's.

If you go back and follow those that are logging the most miles, they are also religiously following plans that have built mileage over time. Peak weeks like what you read are just that, peaks, not the norm for anyone. Personally, I think the benefits are there. I have a "family history" of heart disease. Having read about Alberto Salazar having a heart attack, I make sure to see my Doc for an annual and this year he sent me for an Echocardiogram. At 43, everything looked and sounded perfect. I eat and drink wrong, so my training routine has not only benefited my ticker, it allows me to have a few vices as well.

Just from the start of my training when I dropped 20 lbs, to my first physical my heart health was so much better.Im excited to see this year the progress I have made when I see the doc again.That and I don't feel I was "sick" as often this past year.I had a few issues with my sinsuses (which for me is a chronic issue I will always live with)...but the common cold/flu type stuff I simply did not get much of this past year.

 

[Sand]

Did you ever think running in excess is bad for the ticker?

No. The benefits outweigh any issues by massive amounts. There was a good article out there (too lazy to find) that talked about how hearts only have a certain number of beats in their useful life. Running drops your resting HR to the point that your daily number of beats is much lower than a sedentary person and provides for a longer life expectancy. My resting HR is now down into the high 40s - a huge improvement over a few years ago.

How far do you run and what is your heart rate during your run? I'm all for exercise, but like anything else moderation makes sense. I can't believe running the miles I read in here are good for overall health.

When not hurt I'll typically run 20-30 miles per week. My HR during that time will be typically 160-165 (or more). Between running, biking, and swimming I'll put in 7-10 hours a week. Does this help?

 

[2Young2BBald]

Wrapped my best January of training in the (4) years I've been focused on multi-sport today with an easy 5K. Missed a couple of days of swimming due to work travel or it would have been better. Totals for this month:

6 swims, 13,750 yards

8 rides, 162.25 miles

8 runs, 39.17 miles

Last winter I slacked on the bike to give yoga a good look. While I enjoyed it, I payed with during the season on the bike. This year I want to set a solid base and be able to do a three hour ride each month beginning in May to prep for September's HIM. Its way ahead of the training plan, but I trained similar to this for my first HIM and had good results on the bike.

 

[BassNBrew]

Did you ever think running in excess is bad for the ticker?

No. The benefits outweigh any issues by massive amounts. There was a good article out there (too lazy to find) that talked about how hearts only have a certain number of beats in their useful life. Running drops your resting HR to the point that your daily number of beats is much lower than a sedentary person and provides for a longer life expectancy. My resting HR is now down into the high 40s - a huge improvement over a few years ago.

How far do you run and what is your heart rate during your run? I'm all for exercise, but like anything else moderation makes sense. I can't believe running the miles I read in here are good for overall health.

My average heart rate during the 6 hour run was 121. Sitting in my chair right now after a bunch of caffine it measures 48. My resting heart rate is in the low 40's. The average adult hr is 72 and mine was close to this when not fit. I'm a good 30 bpm to the good under the average adult. Assuming my 6 hour exercise rate was 50 bpm over the normal person not exercising at that time, I burned up an additional 18,000 heart beats. During the other 18 hours I used 32,400 less heart beats. That puts me 12,400 heart beats less than the average adult during the course of the day.While six hours of exercise taxed the system as intended, I'm less sore now than if I had painted a couple of rooms or worked in the garden. I monitor calorie intake and water intake during longer exercise periods. As stated by others, there are build periods and rest periods. Within these periods there are step back periods.

 

[BassNBrew]

Wrapped my best January of training in the (4) years I've been focused on multi-sport today with an easy 5K. Missed a couple of days of swimming due to work travel or it would have been better. Totals for this month:6 swims, 13,750 yards8 rides, 162.25 miles8 runs, 39.17 milesLast winter I slacked on the bike to give yoga a good look. While I enjoyed it, I payed with during the season on the bike. This year I want to set a solid base and be able to do a three hour ride each month beginning in May to prep for September's HIM. Its way ahead of the training plan, but I trained similar to this for my first HIM and had good results on the bike.

very solid month.

 

[17seconds]

One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet about the benefits of running is mental health. I wasn't depressed by any means, but since I started training (somewhat) seriously about a year ago I have to say my general mood and attitude towards life's inevitable ups and downs has improved tremendously.

I run for 2 primary reasons: 1) makes me feel great, and 2) I can eat more.

 

[Sand]

6 swims, 13,750 yards8 rides, 162.25 miles8 runs, 39.17 miles

We're almost clones this month (except for swimming) - I had just about the same bike and run mileage. Finished the month with 28.5k of swimming. The swim totals will be going up from here.

 

[pigskinliquors]

BnB: Great perspective on your heart health. If anyone potentially pushes themselves to the max on here it's likely you, yet you are likely going to live a better and longer life bc of it

One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet about the benefits of running is mental health. I wasn't depressed by any means, but since I started training (somewhat) seriously about a year ago I have to say my general mood and attitude towards life's inevitable ups and downs has improved tremendously.

I run for 2 primary reasons: 1) makes me feel great, and 2) I can eat more and not get uber fat.

I have a similar two reasons, though fixed to be more accurate for me...

6 swims, 13,750 yards

8 rides, 162.25 miles

8 runs, 39.17 miles

We're almost clones this month (except for swimming) - I had just about the same bike and run mileage. Finished the month with 28.5k of swimming. The swim totals will be going up from here.

Great months for both of you. I don't have my exact totals in front of me, but a pretty close guestimation would be: 10 elliptical workouts: 65 miles

14 rides: 410 miles

 

[sho nuff]

98 miles for me in January.

Easily the best month I have put out there.

Had I looked at this last night, I would have gone out for 2 just to hit 100.

 

[gruecd]

I preface this by reminding everyone that it's all relative, but January was a crappy month for me. Only 165 miles, whereas last year I averaged more than 200/month. Part of it was the taper and recovery around the Houston half, and part of it was the fact that I simply wasn't training for a marathon.

Should be better going forward now that I'm officially in my Boston cycle.

 

[jb1020]

98 miles for me in January.Easily the best month I have put out there.Had I looked at this last night, I would have gone out for 2 just to hit 100.

Alright, you made me look up mine...21 runs152.4 miles26+ hours

 

[pigskinliquors]

I preface this by reminding everyone that it's all relative, but January was a crappy month for me. Only 165 miles, whereas last year I averaged more than 200/month. Part of it was the taper and recovery around the Houston half, and part of it was the fact that I simply wasn't training for a marathon.Should be better going forward now that I'm officially in my Boston cycle.

All relative indeed. Looking forward to hearing about your training for Boston.

 

[sho nuff]

98 miles for me in January.Easily the best month I have put out there.Had I looked at this last night, I would have gone out for 2 just to hit 100.

Alright, you made me look up mine...21 runs152.4 miles26+ hours

I had just loaded this morning's run into Running ahead so I had the numbers.I think that is all my runs, but its possible I missed a treadmill run that I did not log on there.So I may have gone over 100.Nice month there for you.

 

[tri-man 47]

One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet about the benefits of running is mental health. I wasn't depressed by any means, but since I started training (somewhat) seriously about a year ago I have to say my general mood and attitude towards life's inevitable ups and downs has improved tremendously.

As my daughter reminded me last night: Exercise creates endorphins; endorphins make us happy; and happy people don't kill their husbands! (Legally Blonde)--178 miles of running for meCouple of squat/lunge sessions; couple of yoga550 push-ups/sit-ups (need to find more time for strength work)

 

[Sand]

One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet about the benefits of running is mental health. I wasn't depressed by any means, but since I started training (somewhat) seriously about a year ago I have to say my general mood and attitude towards life's inevitable ups and downs has improved tremendously.

As my daughter reminded me last night: Exercise creates endorphins; endorphins make us happy; and happy people don't kill their husbands! (Legally Blonde)--

178 miles of running for me

Couple of squat/lunge sessions; couple of yoga

550 push-ups/sit-ups (need to find more time for strength work)

A couple? Color me disappointed.

 

[ThreeThousand]

Wrapped my best January of training in the (4) years I've been focused on multi-sport today with an easy 5K. Missed a couple of days of swimming due to work travel or it would have been better. Totals for this month:6 swims, 13,750 yards8 rides, 162.25 miles8 runs, 39.17 milesLast winter I slacked on the bike to give yoga a good look. While I enjoyed it, I payed with during the season on the bike. This year I want to set a solid base and be able to do a three hour ride each month beginning in May to prep for September's HIM. Its way ahead of the training plan, but I trained similar to this for my first HIM and had good results on the bike.

Nice work. My totals for the month (ramping up for a HIM in April). Little low on the run mileage for me.January's totals: Bike: 19h 50m 20s - 402.14 Mi Run: 10h 07m 55s - 70.7 Mi Swim: 6h 11m 12s - 10550 M

 

[Sand]

:Wipes away cold sweat:

:Withdrawal jitters stop:

17 - Super totals over there. Getting 400 miles in on the bike in January is quite the feat.

Greetings folks! Great couple of days over here. Got in a good, hilly 5 mile run today doing 8:12s (I really need to slow down here). However, my signature workout so far this year was yesterday. Since I just hit another blasted birthday, I decided to torture myself with my age x 100 in the pool. The workout:

100 warm up

10x100 on 2:00

10x100 on 1:50

10x100 on 1:40

10x100 on 1:30

4100 total; no stopping, no breaks. Swim until I finish or die.

Here is the readout of the workout. Turned out pretty good. Averaged 1:16/100 for all intervals and was holding ~1:15s until 2500 yards or so, then trailed off to 1:18-1:19 by the end. I need to improve my long endurance, but I know that already and will be putting in lots of pool time for a while to do that. Pretty happy with the speed, though. My whole upper body hurts today. Tomorrow's swim will be a faster type workout.

Now if I could just run like Gru and bike like PSL or BnB...

 

[Ned]

98 miles for me in January.Easily the best month I have put out there.Had I looked at this last night, I would have gone out for 2 just to hit 100.

Alright, you made me look up mine...21 runs152.4 miles26+ hours

You're doing great.

 

[Ned]

Since I just hit another blasted birthday, I decided to torture myself with my age x 100 in the pool.

Happy belated bday.

 

[2Young2BBald]

Greetings folks! Great couple of days over here. Got in a good, hilly 5 mile run today doing 8:12s (I really need to slow down here). However, my signature workout so far this year was yesterday. Since I just hit another blasted birthday, I decided to torture myself with my age x 100 in the pool. The workout:

100 warm up

10x100 on 2:00

10x100 on 1:50

10x100 on 1:40

10x100 on 1:30

4100 total; no stopping, no breaks. Swim until I finish or die.

Here is the readout of the workout. Turned out pretty good. Averaged 1:16/100 for all intervals and was holding ~1:15s until 2500 yards or so, then trailed off to 1:18-1:19 by the end. I need to improve my long endurance, but I know that already and will be putting in lots of pool time for a while to do that. Pretty happy with the speed, though. My whole upper body hurts today. Tomorrow's swim will be a faster type workout.

Now if I could just run like Gru and bike like PSL or BnB...

Silly (and not in a you over taxed your heart silly). Wimpy (in comparison) 2,500 for me in the pool last night. Took the Endurance Nerd's advice and went back to some form drills using the pull buoy. Worked on my body positioning, early hand entry and reach and using the lane marker to watch that I don't come close to my arms crossing over the middle. There is a couple in the lane next to me this session working with a coach and I have to say, I'm jealous. They are using multiple camera (above & underwater) and playing them back at a lap top and doing a ton of dry land drills. I'm too cheap for a coach, but am trying to absorb some of the techniques by observing. I can't stand drills, as I like to log more distance, but it helped. Did 500 yards of drills and then swam back to back 1,000s, with the second faster than the first. Next, I'll have to build in speed to my weekly routine. The University of Michigan Tri Team is planning an early season tri the first week of April with a 300 yard pool swim.

 

[tri-man 47]

:swimenvy: Great workouts, guys!

 

[Sand]

I can't stand drills, as I like to log more distance, but it helped. Did 500 yards of drills and then swam back to back 1,000s, with the second faster than the first. Next, I'll have to build in speed to my weekly routine. The University of Michigan Tri Team is planning an early season tri the first week of April with a 300 yard pool swim.

I do 500yds in drills every practice (except last one!). They do work. BTW, 1000s are a bit long. You'd be better off dropping to 4x500 and go a tad faster than 2x1000.

 

[2Young2BBald]

I can't stand drills, as I like to log more distance, but it helped. Did 500 yards of drills and then swam back to back 1,000s, with the second faster than the first. Next, I'll have to build in speed to my weekly routine. The University of Michigan Tri Team is planning an early season tri the first week of April with a 300 yard pool swim.

I do 500yds in drills every practice (except last one!). They do work. BTW, 1000s are a bit long. You'd be better off dropping to 4x500 and go a tad faster than 2x1000.

Even if my goal of the workout was endurance over speed? I alternate my Mon/Wed swims with one targeting speed and one targeting endurance. For the endurance nights, I will do a single set of 2,500, a 1,500 and 1,000 or something like I did last night. I'll be travelling for work next week and will likely miss both swims next week, so I did two endurance workouts this week versus doing the speed one on Monday. This season my A races - #### triathletes say - are all longer swim events, with a HIM, 1.6 miles total for the survival tri and an Oly in June (and a mile OWS event and Aquathon right after), so I want to key in on speed over endurance. In my head, it makes sense to do just under 2 minute 100M splits for a HIM swim, giving up around 4 or 5 minutes over what I could gain in speed, to get back 15 minutes or so on the bike and the run being fresh from the swim. WTH do I know, its all trial and error.

 

[Sand]

I can't stand drills, as I like to log more distance, but it helped. Did 500 yards of drills and then swam back to back 1,000s, with the second faster than the first. Next, I'll have to build in speed to my weekly routine. The University of Michigan Tri Team is planning an early season tri the first week of April with a 300 yard pool swim.

I do 500yds in drills every practice (except last one!). They do work. BTW, 1000s are a bit long. You'd be better off dropping to 4x500 and go a tad faster than 2x1000.

Even if my goal of the workout was endurance over speed?

Absolutely. You want to work on threshold and 1000 is a bit long for that. I top out at 500 sets. 4x500 with a 1' rest interval is a great endurance set. Each set you should be hating life at about 200 to go.

 

[bentley]

I almost don't feel qualified to post any more, but I did top 11 miles running this week for the first time since our second son was born. Working toward a 10K in seven weeks. It feels good to get back in the saddle.

 

[BassNBrew]

Now if I could just run like Gru and bike like PSL or BnB...

Fixed. You've given too much away around here to downplay your biking.

 

[BassNBrew]

Did a 50 mile bike ride yesterday morning with some friends. My #### was hating life around mile 40. Freaking ride put the hurt to me the rest of the day. Avg hr did even hit zone 1. I was ravenous the rest of the day. We average just a hair over what pigskin does when he pushes his bike out of the garage.

Here's the funny part. I put on a skull cap for warmth when getting ready. Completely forget the bike helmet as I haven't ridden outside since Sept. On the way to the meeting point one of my teammates driving by yells at me that I don't have a helmet. I meet up with the rest of the group and one of the gals makes me ride to her house to get her husband's helmet. Team newsletter came out tonite and this was posted from our coach...

Sarah's Rant

Skull Caps are not helmets. Don't leave home without your HELMET!

 

[Sand]

Now if I could just run like Gru and bike like PSL or BnB...

Fixed. You've given too much away around here to downplay your biking.

Oh, yeah, but you haven't seen me lately. This is how I've been feeling lately on my bike.

I almost don't feel qualified to post any more, but I did top 11 miles running this week for the first time since our second son was born. Working toward a 10K in seven weeks. It feels good to get back in the saddle.

Bah! Nothing wrong with getting back in the saddle. No qualifications needed for that. So what 10k are you doing?BTW, Grue - on massages. Looks like you were right.

 

[bentley]

Now if I could just run like Gru and bike like PSL or BnB...

Fixed. You've given too much away around here to downplay your biking.

Oh, yeah, but you haven't seen me lately. This is how I've been feeling lately on my bike.

I almost don't feel qualified to post any more, but I did top 11 miles running this week for the first time since our second son was born. Working toward a 10K in seven weeks. It feels good to get back in the saddle.

Bah! Nothing wrong with getting back in the saddle. No qualifications needed for that. So what 10k are you doing?BTW, Grue - on massages. Looks like you were right.

The biggest 10K in Texas. I've done it several years in a row now. 49:00 last year. Hoping to survive it this year.

 

[pmbrown_22]

Looks like a lot of good work the last couple of days. Fish are abound in great quantities of yards being racked up by Sand and 2YBB. I may start swimming a bit next week as my boys start swim lessons, so I will need to kill some time during that. Might as well make good use of it.

I am still kickin' it on the road. Still trying to get the longer mid week run in, but no dice again this week. On the flip side, I have been punishing myself with hills though so I am hoping that I am making up for it a bit by that. Still does not make me feel better about missing the run though.

9 on Wednesday and 4 recovery on Thursday. Curious to your thoughts on this. My usual hilly runs seem to be tracking funny depending on what tool I am looking at. Garmin Training center has that run at around 1700 feet of accent and decline whereas Garmin Connect has it at about 800. Any ideas on why the discrepency for this? I just can't figure it out.

 

[jb1020]

Braved the monsoon conditions here this morning. It was about 55 out and the bottom fell out on mile 2 of an 8 mile run.

I like the rainy runs in July, February is a little too early.

 

[Sand]

Looks like a lot of good work the last couple of days. Fish are abound in great quantities of yards being racked up by Sand and 2YBB. I may start swimming a bit next week as my boys start swim lessons, so I will need to kill some time during that. Might as well make good use of it.I am still kickin' it on the road. Still trying to get the longer mid week run in, but no dice again this week. On the flip side, I have been punishing myself with hills though so I am hoping that I am making up for it a bit by that. Still does not make me feel better about missing the run though.9 on Wednesday and 4 recovery on Thursday. Curious to your thoughts on this. My usual hilly runs seem to be tracking funny depending on what tool I am looking at. Garmin Training center has that run at around 1700 feet of accent and decline whereas Garmin Connect has it at about 800. Any ideas on why the discrepency for this? I just can't figure it out.

Elevation gain is notoriously off depending on who/what is measuring. I'd trust Garmin Connect over GTC, though.

 

[gruecd]

Whassup, guys. Lotsa good work being done around here, especially by all you swimmers. Like I said the other day, I'm really cooling on the triathlon idea. I don't enjoy swimming, and I don't think that I have the patience to improve to the point where I would enjoy it. I might still putz with it a little bit, but I'm thinking I'll be mostly running, biking, hooping, and yoga-ing and leaving that swimming crap to the rest of you fools.

Running-wise, it's been a good week. Went 8-10-5-8-5 so far, with yesterday's 8-miler including 4 tempo miles at 6:35 that actually felt fairly easy. My weight is sitting right around 208, which is very good for me this early in the training cycle. I'm planning on 17 sometime this weekend, possibly with some MP miles mixed in. We'll see about that.

Hope you guys all have a great weekend.

 

[Ned]

Looks like a lot of good work the last couple of days. Fish are abound in great quantities of yards being racked up by Sand and 2YBB. I may start swimming a bit next week as my boys start swim lessons, so I will need to kill some time during that. Might as well make good use of it.I am still kickin' it on the road. Still trying to get the longer mid week run in, but no dice again this week. On the flip side, I have been punishing myself with hills though so I am hoping that I am making up for it a bit by that. Still does not make me feel better about missing the run though.9 on Wednesday and 4 recovery on Thursday. Curious to your thoughts on this. My usual hilly runs seem to be tracking funny depending on what tool I am looking at. Garmin Training center has that run at around 1700 feet of accent and decline whereas Garmin Connect has it at about 800. Any ideas on why the discrepency for this? I just can't figure it out.

Elevation gain is notoriously off depending on who/what is measuring. I'd trust Garmin Connect over GTC, though.

Garmin Connect corrects it based on the survey of the area you ran vs. GTC is measuring how much your watch 'went up and down'.

 

[pigskinliquors]

Sand: Unbelievable birthday workout Freaking unbelievable.

2Y2BB: Also a great workout. I typically, likely do too many yards and not enough speed, but I prefer those workouts as I'm typically just working towards a distance, not a time. Your gains in the water suggest you are doing something right. What about having a Cornhole where we all fly in somewhere with a good pool, and have Sand give us personal training by day, and we party by night. Mini Chad would likely be needed for the evening activity.

Bentley: Welcome back and good luck at the zoo that is the Cap10k!

BnB: I'm also calling on you not being an elite rider. I'm riding on the flats down here, and you are climbing freaking mountains. LMBO regarding the skull cap. I forgot my helmet for a mt. bike ride a couple weeks ago. I ended up having to freaking ride around the lake on the levee while everyone else got to play on the trails

jb: I truly miss rainy runs. I somehow typically always had amazing experiences in them

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My update:

I missed my first scheduled workout of the year yesterday, and can't make it up today I had a first date on Wednesday night that was supposed to just be a quick motorcycle ride in the afternoon. The ride led to dinner, which led to drinks, then tequila, then dancing, then fun time...really fun time. I drove her to her car at 5:30 am (cabbed home) having not yet closed my eyes to sleep and got back home just in time to shower and make it to an 8:00 am doctoral defense. Post the defense, I took a nap in my office, had lunch, and then went home and took another nap, before having dinner and going back to sleep.

 

[Sand]

I missed my first scheduled workout of the year yesterday, and can't make it up today

And yet got in an even better uncheduled one? Yeah, we're not all that sympathetic here.

 

[AcerFC]

Any of you runners have this heart rate watch and monitorhttp://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001S2RCWS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=A3S4H3E5TUN1NPTIA

Just wanted to say that I got this and it is awesome. I wish I would have had it during my marathon training. The accuracy is insane and the heart rate monitor works great

 

[pmbrown_22]

I missed my first scheduled workout of the year yesterday, and can't make it up today

And yet got in an even better uncheduled one? Yeah, we're not all that sympathetic here.

Really. Sounds like you got in a couple of intervals to get your heart rate up. I would put that in the category of a cross training workout.

 

[AcerFC]

If I were to run and stay in my target heart rate I would be running a mile time that I am unhappy with. Does anyone else have this issue or should I just run in a higher heart rate zone