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Ran a 10k in June (5 Viewers)

On a treadmill, what kind of pattern would you suggest for HIIT? Right now I'll Jog for 1/4 mile then sprint for a 1/4 and so on for a couple miles. Or I'll do something like jog for a .10 mile then full sprint for .15.

I'm basically just winging it. Any suggestions?

 
On a treadmill, what kind of pattern would you suggest for HIIT? Right now I'll Jog for 1/4 mile then sprint for a 1/4 and so on for a couple miles. Or I'll do something like jog for a .10 mile then full sprint for .15. I'm basically just winging it. Any suggestions?
Yeah, get the hell off the treadmill. Those things are injuries waiting to happen.
 
I saw this youtube video which has been helpful to me: running form. Particularly helpful has been the part at 0:15-0:25 showing how to run with relaxed arms. I actually do that now during my run when I start feeling tense. Swing my arms loosely at the shoulders then bring them up.
thanks for posting this! i tried some of the things from the video yesterday and felt really good. it felt like i ran the same pace without as much effort :thumbup: the funny thing was that after i drove home, as soon as i stepped out of the truck both calves cramped. i guess i hadn't been using them as much as i was supposed to!!!

 
Maybe it is just me, but no effin' way I can do 5-8 miles at 5k-45 in practice.
Ummm, you do realize that means 45 seconds SLOWER THAN 5K pace, right? That being said, I say 15K-HM pace for tempo runs, but I guess that's in the same ballpark.
Yeah - I ain't doing 7:20s for a 5 miler in practice. I'll implode.
I call :bs: . Man up.
:goodposting: Suck it up, speedy. If I can do 7:40s, you sure as hell can do 7:20s.
I did 5 miles at 7:11/mile yesterday. :shrug: Try to keep up, Mr.:02.
Peer pressure. Went and did a hard 5 miler. 7:49s are all I got, boys.
 
On a treadmill, what kind of pattern would you suggest for HIIT? Right now I'll Jog for 1/4 mile then sprint for a 1/4 and so on for a couple miles. Or I'll do something like jog for a .10 mile then full sprint for .15. I'm basically just winging it. Any suggestions?
In general, better to keep the recoveries to a shorter distance than the intervals, otherwise you're spending more time on recovery, rather than the sprints. After each 1/4 mile, give yourself an easy 1-1:30 of time before the next. If you're too tired to go again, you're probably sprinting too fast. I never use a treadmill, but I agree with gruecd - that's a scary place to do speed work!
 
30k tomorrow. Ugh...after all this marathon training, my legs feel dead. Hopefully that race adrenaline will work miracles tomorrow.

 
On a treadmill, what kind of pattern would you suggest for HIIT? Right now I'll Jog for 1/4 mile then sprint for a 1/4 and so on for a couple miles. Or I'll do something like jog for a .10 mile then full sprint for .15. I'm basically just winging it. Any suggestions?
In general, better to keep the recoveries to a shorter distance than the intervals, otherwise you're spending more time on recovery, rather than the sprints. After each 1/4 mile, give yourself an easy 1-1:30 of time before the next. If you're too tired to go again, you're probably sprinting too fast. I never use a treadmill, but I agree with gruecd - that's a scary place to do speed work!
i havent quite gotten used to cold weather running yet.
 
i havent quite gotten used to cold weather running yet.
Understandable. It takes a while to find the right balance of clothing when the temp drops ...layers of clothing, appropriate cap, gloves, etc.--A good 6 miles this a.m. ..extended warm-up, then 2 miles @ 6:48/mile! If I can find another 8-9 seconds per mile and extend it a bit further, I could start my season (April 1) right where I left off last October. Speed >> endurance. :boxing:
 
signed up for my first race ever (outside of warrior dash)!

4/15 naperville, il 5k

any tips for training? i have worked my way up to 4 miles in 34:45

what sort of schedule should i have? have never "trained" for a race before.

 
Did an 11 MLR over lunch today. My legs were stronger than when I woke up, which I guess is a good thing. I averaged 8:45 per for the entire thing and this included the usual big hills that I cover downtown. Overall a good run and looking forward to 7 tomorrow and then 21 on Sunday. If I can get both runs in I will have covered 65 miles this week. I have not done this many miles in a year and a half. It is feeling pretty good so far. Hopefully by Monday I am still feeling as good.

Have a great weekend all.

 
signed up for my first race ever (outside of warrior dash)! 4/15 naperville, il 5kany tips for training? i have worked my way up to 4 miles in 34:45what sort of schedule should i have? have never "trained" for a race before.
Just run. If this is your first 5K, the main thing is just logging 3-4 miles at a time, 3-4 times a week. Maybe have one run each week that goes a little longer, and one day where you do your HIIT. But for somebody who's relatively new to running, you'll get the biggest return just from building your mileage base.
 
signed up for my first race ever (outside of warrior dash)! 4/15 naperville, il 5kany tips for training? i have worked my way up to 4 miles in 34:45what sort of schedule should i have? have never "trained" for a race before.
Just run. If this is your first 5K, the main thing is just logging 3-4 miles at a time, 3-4 times a week. Maybe have one run each week that goes a little longer, and one day where you do your HIIT. But for somebody who's relatively new to running, you'll get the biggest return just from building your mileage base.
Yep. Don't worry about speed, tempo runs, or any of that (i.e. don't try and set a PR on every run). Just run. Good buddy of mine upped his mileage to 40+/wk. for the last many months. He took his half marathon PR down 3 minutes to 1:25. Just from volume.
 
Finally got back out there today after wasting away the whole week being sick. Given the lost time I had to adjust on the fly and decided to do a 10mi GA today. Considering how sick I was on Tuesday, today's run wasn't too bad. I hit the wall at 8 and struggled the last 2. Ended up at 9:20/157.

 
signed up for my first race ever (outside of warrior dash)! 4/15 naperville, il 5kany tips for training? i have worked my way up to 4 miles in 34:45what sort of schedule should i have? have never "trained" for a race before.
Just run. If this is your first 5K, the main thing is just logging 3-4 miles at a time, 3-4 times a week. Maybe have one run each week that goes a little longer, and one day where you do your HIIT. But for somebody who's relatively new to running, you'll get the biggest return just from building your mileage base.
Yep. Don't worry about speed, tempo runs, or any of that (i.e. don't try and set a PR on every run). Just run. Good buddy of mine upped his mileage to 40+/wk. for the last many months. He took his half marathon PR down 3 minutes to 1:25. Just from volume.
:goodposting: Last year I dropped my 5K from 24 to 21 just by increased volume (thanks to marathon training) and zero speed work. Until you build a solid endurance foundation, volume is king.
 
signed up for my first race ever (outside of warrior dash)! 4/15 naperville, il 5kany tips for training? i have worked my way up to 4 miles in 34:45what sort of schedule should i have? have never "trained" for a race before.
Yes, yes, build your volume. But speed is productive and fun, too ...Hill training is good to strengthen the legs. Interval (speed) work is good to quicken the pace and build a better kick. You have a good pace already. See if you can work in some hills and intervals. Are you in Naperville, and can you find a route with some hills or rolling terrain? Any tracks nearby for intervals? I would recommend doing some intervals once a week (other than an occasional recovery week) ...do some repeat 1/4s or 1/2s ...maybe some mile repeats. It's also good to do some long, slow runs (part of the endurance issue). It could be helpful to build up to, say, 10 miles so that your legs learn to handle the fatigue (and your mind learns to think "3 miles is nothing"). Build a schedule that incorporates a little of everything (also some tempo runs). 2-3 weeks of solid training, then a recovery week to heal. Rinse, repeat.FYI, I'm in Oak Park.
 
Finished my longest run ever this morning 16 miles.

Last mile and a half my feet were getting a bit sore on the run back up towards the house.

Not too bad now a couple hours after being done.

Capped off a 34 mile week.

 
'tri-man 47 said:
signed up for my first race ever (outside of warrior dash)! 4/15 naperville, il 5kany tips for training? i have worked my way up to 4 miles in 34:45what sort of schedule should i have? have never "trained" for a race before.
Yes, yes, build your volume. But speed is productive and fun, too ...Hill training is good to strengthen the legs. Interval (speed) work is good to quicken the pace and build a better kick. You have a good pace already. See if you can work in some hills and intervals. Are you in Naperville, and can you find a route with some hills or rolling terrain? Any tracks nearby for intervals? I would recommend doing some intervals once a week (other than an occasional recovery week) ...do some repeat 1/4s or 1/2s ...maybe some mile repeats. It's also good to do some long, slow runs (part of the endurance issue). It could be helpful to build up to, say, 10 miles so that your legs learn to handle the fatigue (and your mind learns to think "3 miles is nothing"). Build a schedule that incorporates a little of everything (also some tempo runs). 2-3 weeks of solid training, then a recovery week to heal. Rinse, repeat.FYI, I'm in Oak Park.
Thanks for the tips everyone. I'm actually in Shorewood, which is near Joliet. The Naperville seemed far enough away for meto get some good training in.
 
Oh, and I took the no treadmill advice and just got back from a nice little run outside. Unusually warm today so I took advantage. Didn't even think about distance or speed. I just ran. My legs felt great.

What do you guys where on your head for these cold weather runs?

 
What do you guys where on your head for these cold weather runs?
Cap (which has my MP3 player). For really cold I'll also throw on a skullcap to cover my ears.------

Since today has turned into a nasty mess (this morning was awesome), looks like my week is in the books:

Swim - 10,000 yds

Run - 22 miles

Bike - 40.5 miles

8.5 hours total. The bike ride was just about enough to bury me. I was not prepared for an effort of that magnitude.

 
What do you guys where on your head for these cold weather runs?
Cap (which has my MP3 player). For really cold I'll also throw on a skullcap to cover my ears.------

Since today has turned into a nasty mess (this morning was awesome), looks like my week is in the books:

Swim - 10,000 yds

Run - 22 miles

Bike - 40.5 miles

8.5 hours total. The bike ride was just about enough to bury me. I was not prepared for an effort of that magnitude.
Awesome week!!! That's a lot of hours for February training.Annyong, when it's below 30, I wear a skullcap (made for runners with wicking material). I wear some light running gloves even when the temp is up in the 40's. What helps in the cold weather is to run into the wind for the first half of the run. The second half is better, then, with the wind at the back (today was a good example with a brisk north wind). Do you try to run in the forest preserves there in Shorewood? They might have some undulating trails. I really enjoy Waterfall Glen, which is a 9 1/2 mile gravel trail surrounding Argonne Labs further up I-55.

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So where are prosopis and Darrin lately?

 
Oh, and I took the no treadmill advice and just got back from a nice little run outside. Unusually warm today so I took advantage. Didn't even think about distance or speed. I just ran. My legs felt great. What do you guys where on your head for these cold weather runs?
How cold?I have varying degrees (the baldy in me).Today it was 40...just a ballcap type running hat. Keeps the sun off the eyes.A little colder (20s and 30s...wore it even last week with 24* and 11* windchill) and I picked up a headsweats midcap. Keeps the ears warm, has a great sweat wicking band on it, and vented enough on top to not overheat.Colder and I go with the nike fleece headband that is thicker for the ears and I have an under armor skull cap that I wear so that the top of the head does not get too hot.If it gets really cold I have a fleece like Balaclava but its been so warm I have not needed it yet.
 
Oh, and I took the no treadmill advice and just got back from a nice little run outside. Unusually warm today so I took advantage. Didn't even think about distance or speed. I just ran. My legs felt great. What do you guys where on your head for these cold weather runs?
I never wear hats. Can't stand them.
 
Screw this crap. Fn congestion and sore throat is back. Moving my 15 to tomorrow since I'm off for presidents day. Can't afford to have another relapse to Tuesday. :rant:

 
What do you guys where on your head for these cold weather runs?
I usually just wear a cap that covers my head and ears. You'll want something that's relatively windproof, but any running or sporting goods store should sell something like this.When it's really cold, like single digits or below, I have a fleece headbag/balaclava thing that you can adjust so it covers your nose and mouth or leaves them exposed. Frostbite is a really serious issue when it gets that cold, so you want as little exposed skin as possible, especially if there's any sort of breeze. Even a very light wind is brutal when you get down to zero or below.
 
Good running day for the Ned family. Wife did her first five mile run today. Big mental hurdle for her. :thumbup:

Cousin ran her first HM today down in Austin and came in at 1:51. That ties my first HM. I better watch out.

 
Congrats to Mrs. Ned. As you know, getting over the 5-6 mile hurdle is big. Here's hoping you cash in on her temporary euphoria. :thumbup:

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Pretty straightforward 10 miles today with the last 3 at MP. I'm starting to get tired of my "off-season maintenance" routine, and this is about the third or fourth time I've done this distance and had to restrain myself from going longer. I officially have permission to start building up a little once spring break arrives in a couple more weeks.

 
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Congrats to Mrs. Ned. As you know, getting over the 5-6 mile hurdle is big. Here's hoping you cash in on her temporary euphoria. :thumbup:
Absolutely - that 5-6 mile hump is a big one (no pun intended). ----

My weekend was pretty productive. 2.5 hour ride yesterday where I tore my legs apart. I really need to learn that hanging on the strongest guy's wheel when you haven't ridden hard in three weeks ain't the best idea ever. Just can't help myself, though - I'm freakin' Pavlov's dog when it comes to riding. Someone jumps (heh - actually I jumped first yesterday) and I'll turn myself inside out to hang on. I did put up really good power numbers, though.

Followed up today with a very painful 10 mile plod. Goodness my legs were made of stone after the ride yesterday. I was very close to turning around before I got the first mile done. Glad I kept going as my legs felt better a couple miles in. Really wanted 12, but turning around when I did was a darn good idea.

So four hours of good work done this weekend. No complaints there.

 
30k tomorrow. Ugh...after all this marathon training, my legs feel dead. Hopefully that race adrenaline will work miracles tomorrow.
2:24 Oh man, my legs were dead after about 15...that last 5k was a grind. Time to get some rest and run 20+ next saturday. Man, I can't wait to start tapering. :weary:
 
30k tomorrow. Ugh...after all this marathon training, my legs feel dead. Hopefully that race adrenaline will work miracles tomorrow.
2:24 Oh man, my legs were dead after about 15...that last 5k was a grind. Time to get some rest and run 20+ next saturday. Man, I can't wait to start tapering. :weary:
OK! You got through that one. 30K in 2:24? That would be ..fast! You're doing what you need to do - break down the muscles and let them heal stronger. That taper will feel good! ...except for the taper madness, of course.
 
30k tomorrow. Ugh...after all this marathon training, my legs feel dead. Hopefully that race adrenaline will work miracles tomorrow.
2:24 Oh man, my legs were dead after about 15...that last 5k was a grind. Time to get some rest and run 20+ next saturday. Man, I can't wait to start tapering. :weary:
OK! You got through that one. 30K in 2:24? That would be ..fast! You're doing what you need to do - break down the muscles and let them heal stronger. That taper will feel good! ...except for the taper madness, of course.
Yeah, overall I was pretty happy with my time but it was still humbling to fade so hard at the end. Makes me worry what my body is gonna feel like at the end of the marathon.
 
30k tomorrow. Ugh...after all this marathon training, my legs feel dead. Hopefully that race adrenaline will work miracles tomorrow.
2:24 Oh man, my legs were dead after about 15...that last 5k was a grind. Time to get some rest and run 20+ next saturday. Man, I can't wait to start tapering. :weary:
OK! You got through that one. 30K in 2:24? That would be ..fast! You're doing what you need to do - break down the muscles and let them heal stronger. That taper will feel good! ...except for the taper madness, of course.
Yeah, overall I was pretty happy with my time but it was still humbling to fade so hard at the end. Makes me worry what my body is gonna feel like at the end of the marathon.
What time are you aiming for in the marathon?
 
I'm like Ned, can't shake this cold and I'm sure Saturday did me no favors. I tried to beat the wall of rain on the radar, but failed. It was about a 48 degree downpour 2 miles into 12.

I felt pretty damn good though, kinda separated myself from the "Plan" for the first time. I started out shooting for my 10:45 pace, but said to hell with it. I was feeling pretty good.

Miles 1-6 1:04

Miles 7-12 57:43

HR 140

Those last 6 miles felt great. While I really have no fear of not finishing I do have a fear of being about to keep a decent pace for 26.2. While the obvious goal is to finish, I do still want to put up a good time. I'm thinking 4:15. The McMillian calculator has me at 4:13.

 
30k tomorrow. Ugh...after all this marathon training, my legs feel dead. Hopefully that race adrenaline will work miracles tomorrow.
2:24 Oh man, my legs were dead after about 15...that last 5k was a grind. Time to get some rest and run 20+ next saturday. Man, I can't wait to start tapering. :weary:
OK! You got through that one. 30K in 2:24? That would be ..fast! You're doing what you need to do - break down the muscles and let them heal stronger. That taper will feel good! ...except for the taper madness, of course.
Yeah, overall I was pretty happy with my time but it was still humbling to fade so hard at the end. Makes me worry what my body is gonna feel like at the end of the marathon.
What time are you aiming for in the marathon?
3:30
 
Crappy long run for me yesterday. Was planning on 19, but ended up bailing after 16. Even took a couple of walk breaks. I was out drinking on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday night, didn't get much sleep, etc. I mean, it was worth it (if you know what I mean), but the resulting fatigue and dehydration really made the run pretty miserable.

I'll still do my planned 20 on Saturday, but I'll definitely be drinking lots of water this week and taking it easy on Friday night.

 
Sand: I might need to start watching some surfing :wub: Great weekend of work, and that ride looks pretty brutal, especially miles 33-38. LOL at Pavlov's dog. I hate missing a breakaway, and love being the one that starts one to drop slackers. I love people that try to grab my wheel. If they do it well, I feel confident they can help me later.

ShoNuff: Awesome getting 34 in and a new PR with 16!!!

Annyoung: I also like a skull cap.

Grue: What did you learn from Mr. 74 runs for 938 miles in one month (= averaged more than 2 runs per day, with each run averaging almost a HM :shock: ).

Ned: Awesome that the Mrs. and your cousin are HTFU'ing!

Hang10: Great 30k. Don't worry about hanging on. Trust your training and your taper. In the meantime, eat well, keep hydrating and start mentally preparing yourself for race day by visualizing tempo and success.

JB: It's all about goal #1. Other goals being achieved are merely icing on the cake!

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My update:

I had my kids all weekend with lots of rain, so I ended up having to workout inside and did some P90x. Friday I did 8 miles on the elliptical; Saturday I did Back/Chest + Abs; and Sunday I did Plyometrics. Hip/groin took a beating with Plyo = I'm going to have to modify it, or not do it at all anymore :kicksrock: I'm heading to the rec center in :10 to get 6 in on the elliptical.

 
In a tough spot with training right now. Wife is recovering from laproscopic surgery last Friday, 5yo son is the sickest he's ever been in his life, and I feel like I'm getting the flu.

Ran 7.5 yesterday on weak legs, and going to try and do 5-8 today depending how I feel. Supposed to be doing 8 with some 100m strides.

 
I'm like Ned, can't shake this cold and I'm sure Saturday did me no favors. I tried to beat the wall of rain on the radar, but failed. It was about a 48 degree downpour 2 miles into 12.I felt pretty damn good though, kinda separated myself from the "Plan" for the first time. I started out shooting for my 10:45 pace, but said to hell with it. I was feeling pretty good. Miles 1-6 1:04Miles 7-12 57:43HR 140Those last 6 miles felt great. While I really have no fear of not finishing I do have a fear of being about to keep a decent pace for 26.2. While the obvious goal is to finish, I do still want to put up a good time. I'm thinking 4:15. The McMillian calculator has me at 4:13.
Just be careful, man. You sound just like I did going in to my first. Aside from getting dealt a crappy hand, weather wise, I think I went in over confident and it bit me hard on my first. Have mucho respect for 26.2 or she'll chew you up and spit you out.
 
In a tough spot with training right now. Wife is recovering from laproscopic surgery last Friday, 5yo son is the sickest he's ever been in his life, and I feel like I'm getting the flu.Ran 7.5 yesterday on weak legs, and going to try and do 5-8 today depending how I feel. Supposed to be doing 8 with some 100m strides.
You don't have influenza, or you'd be knocked on your ### and not even contemplating running. You most likely just have a cold. 8 easy miles with a cold is no big deal.Edit: Feel free to skip the strides.
 
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Great weekend all. Good work all around.

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I finished out a really strong week for me. I was able to finally get in all 6 days of running in and I felt prett good overall. 67 miles total for me which is the most that I have done in a week in over a year and a half.

Friday I went out and did 11 at work. No big deal. Extended my lunch and got in a really good run.

On Saturday, I had one of the cooler experiences that I have had running in along time. I went out and pushed my son for 7 miles. It was just fun to be able to take him out. It was warm enough and everyone else in the house was going to sleep so I took the off chance that he would sleep and I took him with me. It was a bit tougher than I expected, but I figure that the resistance training would help me a bit.

On Sunday I went out and did my scheduled 21 miler. Legs were a bit mroe tired than I would have expected (probably from pushing the stroller the day before for an hour), but I made it through averaging 8:52 for the entire set of miles. Decent run overall and completed a pretty good week for me.

Yesterday was a SDO and today I am supposed to do a morning recovery run and an evening recovery run. We will see about getting both in, but definitely will get one of them in.

Have a great day all.

 
Great weekend all. Good work all around.---------------I finished out a really strong week for me. I was able to finally get in all 6 days of running in and I felt prett good overall. 67 miles total for me which is the most that I have done in a week in over a year and a half.Friday I went out and did 11 at work. No big deal. Extended my lunch and got in a really good run.On Saturday, I had one of the cooler experiences that I have had running in along time. I went out and pushed my son for 7 miles. It was just fun to be able to take him out. It was warm enough and everyone else in the house was going to sleep so I took the off chance that he would sleep and I took him with me. It was a bit tougher than I expected, but I figure that the resistance training would help me a bit.On Sunday I went out and did my scheduled 21 miler. Legs were a bit mroe tired than I would have expected (probably from pushing the stroller the day before for an hour), but I made it through averaging 8:52 for the entire set of miles. Decent run overall and completed a pretty good week for me.Yesterday was a SDO and today I am supposed to do a morning recovery run and an evening recovery run. We will see about getting both in, but definitely will get one of them in.Have a great day all.
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Great weekend all. Good work all around.---------------I finished out a really strong week for me. I was able to finally get in all 6 days of running in and I felt prett good overall. 67 miles total for me which is the most that I have done in a week in over a year and a half.Friday I went out and did 11 at work. No big deal. Extended my lunch and got in a really good run.On Saturday, I had one of the cooler experiences that I have had running in along time. I went out and pushed my son for 7 miles. It was just fun to be able to take him out. It was warm enough and everyone else in the house was going to sleep so I took the off chance that he would sleep and I took him with me. It was a bit tougher than I expected, but I figure that the resistance training would help me a bit.On Sunday I went out and did my scheduled 21 miler. Legs were a bit mroe tired than I would have expected (probably from pushing the stroller the day before for an hour), but I made it through averaging 8:52 for the entire set of miles. Decent run overall and completed a pretty good week for me.Yesterday was a SDO and today I am supposed to do a morning recovery run and an evening recovery run. We will see about getting both in, but definitely will get one of them in.Have a great day all.
Those strollers can be like pushing a sailboat sometimes.
 
Nice running there pmb...and agree with jb...strollers can weigh you down pretty hard.

My kids are a bit past any real time in a stroller....at least where I would want to be pushing them while running anymore.

Got my 6 X 1000m at 10k pace in yesterday (6 miles total and fought through a bit of a sore calf)

3 recovery miles today and the calf felt better this morning and during this run.

my usual 8 tomorrow that I may push to 9-10 since I only did 3 recovery instead of the 4-5 I would like to be doing (have to get my son to an orthodontist appointment so had to cut it short).

 

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