Ran a 10k in June (6 Viewers)

[Ned]

Just fantastic stuff, BnB. It was pretty cool watching you through training and then see it all come together like it did. You earned every bit of this.Major on the work you did for JDRF.So many great lines:

My girlfriend shared her usual positive thoughts, her youngest son said good luck penishole, and her diabetic son's messsage was "Do the work son" and he left a needle to carry as a good luck charm.

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Problem was after I stopped, even in the warmth, I started shivering uncontrolably. Time to go before the medical folks started sniffing around.

Mile 25 - 8:25, 139 hr, 489 ft down. Left the rest stop and 50 yards later volunteers direct us onto the blacktop road down and out of the part. The said two miles straight and then left ont he Parkway. I ask, "All paved?". The reply was yes. Like some nut, I scream, "Hell Yeah!" and immediately broke to what seemed like a sprint. I knew I was moving and it felt great. Wondered how smart it was and then thought what would Sand do? Realized that smart pacing and Sand don't belong together and looked for other fbg guidance. Thought about Triman, but lunges didn't seem appropriate here. Thought about pigskin which got me thinking about my junk which got me thinking about how cold it was so I changed the subject. Thought about what Gru would do, but he'd be at the finish drinking at beer by now. So the obvious place to go was Ned and just watch the watch checking my hr and pace.

 

[pmbrown_22]

Great report and race BNB. I am not surehow you remembered all of this as I usually just remember the start and the finish. What an adventure and for such a good cause. You should be both happy and proud with your accomplishments.

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As for me. I think the hammer finally came down from the wife last night. The running has to be cut back or there will be problems. I have not figured out the logistics of everything yet as I am trying to figure out what I am going to do about running, but my marathon I am training for may be out. Honestly, I am surprised I got this far with it before it happened, but I am going to start taking some night feedings so my rest will slim and valuable. I think I am going to be running a lot more at work and the weekend long runs are going to be a challenge now.

I think I will still try and do the marathon and run it with my brother as he was wanting me to run it with him so that I could be there for his first one. I think I can still get that approval, but I am going to have to earn back some points first.

As it should be, I should be pulling more weight and helping with that. Running is not worth alienating everyone else for. So please forgive me if my updates are fewer out here for awhile.

Have a great day all.

 

[AcerFC]

Awesome BNB. Definitely inspiring.

What are you talking about when you say Sanding it (Sand can answer also obviously)

Also, I just reread the Pfitzinger marathon book which was much better since I was fully awake reading it this time. Question about heart rate. It says that you want to run your recovery runs at just about 75% of HR. My HR is 183 and so it has me at 137. Is that standard for all recovery runs or just training for the marathon recovery runs. I have been running my recovery runs at 157ish and I may have been pushing myself too harf

 

[gruecd]

At some point around the 6th mile, I felt like I had a running orgasm. Things just, I dunno, released at that point. Suddenly all the tension was gone. Things were flowing effortlessly. I was floating. This is why we run.

Indeed it is.

As for me. I think the hammer finally came down from the wife last night. The running has to be cut back or there will be problems. I have not figured out the logistics of everything yet as I am trying to figure out what I am going to do about running, but my marathon I am training for may be out.

Feel for you, dude. #### like this is one of the main reasons why I'm in the process of dividing the kingdom. I can't deal with my life being a constant state of compromise like that. Just can't do it. Hope everything works out for you.

Mile 25 - 8:25, 139 hr, 489 ft down. Left the rest stop and 50 yards later volunteers direct us onto the blacktop road down and out of the part. The said two miles straight and then left ont he Parkway. I ask, "All paved?". The reply was yes. Like some nut, I scream, "Hell Yeah!" and immediately broke to what seemed like a sprint. I knew I was moving and it felt great. Wondered how smart it was and then thought what would Sand do? Realized that smart pacing and Sand don't belong together and looked for other fbg guidance. Thought about Triman, but lunges didn't seem appropriate here. Thought about pigskin which got me thinking about my junk which got me thinking about how cold it was so I changed the subject. Thought about what Gru would do, but he'd be at the finish drinking at beer by now. So the obvious place to go was Ned and just watch the watch checking my hr and pace.

Too funny. Great race, and great race report!

 

[pmbrown_22]

As for me. I think the hammer finally came down from the wife last night. The running has to be cut back or there will be problems. I have not figured out the logistics of everything yet as I am trying to figure out what I am going to do about running, but my marathon I am training for may be out.

Feel for you, dude. #### like this is one of the main reasons why I'm in the process of dividing the kingdom. I can't deal with my life being a constant state of compromise like that. Just can't do it. Hope everything works out for you.

Overall, it is not a bad thing. I pretty much knew I was fighting a losing battle with as many miles I was trying to get in anyway, so it really comes as no shocker for me. I think some time with less miles will be better for me overall. Compromise is tough to do. I have to look at it as me being more than a runner right now and running is not the most important thing. I will still run, just not as many miles as before. I could not do without it.

 

[gruecd]

Like Ned, had one of those really good runs yesterday. Temps were in the mid 30s, and it was snowing those big, wet flakes. Pretty cool. Did 10 miles in 1:16:30, starting easy and averaging 7:51 for the first half and then picking it up and averaging 7:27 for the last half and knocking out the last mile in 6:54.

Went out last night and had enough to drink that I knew I shouldn't drive home, so I caught a ride from a buddy, left my car in the ramp, and ran back this morning (5 miles) to get it.

5-mile race for me this Saturday. Last year I finished 2nd in the "Big Bock" division (200+) with a time of 31:58. The first-place guy ran 29:50, so if he's there again, I'll be racing for 2nd place. Either way, it'll be fun. It's hosted by Stevens Point Brewery, so our running club takes a bus up there, and we stop at another brewery on the way back. There's a decent chance of snow on Friday night/Saturday morning, and it's supposed to be windy, so I suspect I'll be running more for placement than time.

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jb1020 & Sand - Good luck in NOLA this weekend!! I'm actually registered for the half, and if it wasn't a RNR event, I'd have you grab my stuff and mail it to me!

 

[gruecd]

As for me. I think the hammer finally came down from the wife last night. The running has to be cut back or there will be problems. I have not figured out the logistics of everything yet as I am trying to figure out what I am going to do about running, but my marathon I am training for may be out.

Feel for you, dude. #### like this is one of the main reasons why I'm in the process of dividing the kingdom. I can't deal with my life being a constant state of compromise like that. Just can't do it. Hope everything works out for you.

Overall, it is not a bad thing. I pretty much knew I was fighting a losing battle with as many miles I was trying to get in anyway, so it really comes as no shocker for me. I think some time with less miles will be better for me overall. Compromise is tough to do. I have to look at it as me being more than a runner right now and running is not the most important thing. I will still run, just not as many miles as before. I could not do without it.

Yeah, it's all about priorities. I get that yours are different than mine right now. As an endurance athlete myself and having talked to a bunch of other endurance athletes, I just know that it's really hard to make a relationship work if your significant other isn't 100% supportive of your lifestyle, cuz that's what it is. Sounds like you've got things figured out.

 

[Ned]

As for me. I think the hammer finally came down from the wife last night. The running has to be cut back or there will be problems. I have not figured out the logistics of everything yet as I am trying to figure out what I am going to do about running, but my marathon I am training for may be out.

Feel for you, dude. #### like this is one of the main reasons why I'm in the process of dividing the kingdom. I can't deal with my life being a constant state of compromise like that. Just can't do it. Hope everything works out for you.

Overall, it is not a bad thing. I pretty much knew I was fighting a losing battle with as many miles I was trying to get in anyway, so it really comes as no shocker for me. I think some time with less miles will be better for me overall. Compromise is tough to do. I have to look at it as me being more than a runner right now and running is not the most important thing. I will still run, just not as many miles as before. I could not do without it.

You got the right attitude about it. I understand the compromising part since my wife said I could keep doing what I'm doing, but only 1 marathon/year. These marathon training cycles certainly do put a strain on the family life, so I completely understand both sides of it.

 

[Dexter]

Iceman Cometh registration another fail year. Nice servers..

 

[pigskinliquors]

Really the highlite prior to the race was waking up to a note from my girlfriend and her kids. My girlfriend shared her usual positive thoughts, her youngest son said good luck penishole, and her diabetic son's messsage was "Do the work son" and he left a needle to carry as a good luck charm. I tucked it in my fuel belt as inspiration and a reminder that anything I would be facing would pale in comparsion to his daily life.



...Already running the claculations at 12.5 min miles will get me to the cutoff. Wondering if I started to fast.

I love running the calculations!

...I'm also running uphill single track miles 2 minutes faster than training.

Giddy'up!

mile 10 - 14:33, 144 hr, 305 ft up. Well I do something stupid. Towards the beginning of this mile there's a 30% inclined for a couple of hundred feet. I'm feeling good so I decided to sprint this section.

WTF? Sprinting at mile 100

...Don't bring Clif bars when the temp is around freezing, they become rocks. Had to break it up by hand to keep from breaking teeth. The small meal hasn't helped my stomach.

Good to know! I wonder what Gu would have done?!

...I make the cutoff.



Had to be an awesome feeling!

I'd made the cutoff point by ten minutes and hit mile 15 6 minutes ahead of schedule. I was now 5220 above sea level and knew the summit was at 6,700 ft. We had started at 2250 ft and I had close to 3500 ft of climbing behind me.

Awesome start to the race!!

Mt. Mitchell Ultra Race Report - Part2 (Parkway to the Summit)

Lots of coyote scat up here, I wonder what they're eating this time of year.



Mile 20 - 19:20, 126 hr, 312 ft up. Stopped at the rest stop and the winds were whipping. Reach in my pocket and my wool cap was gone. Must have blown out. Hands were freezing and I had brought a second pair of gloves. One of those was missing too. Decided to give the right hand the benefit of the doubt. The spout of my water bottle was frozen shut and the lid frozen on too. The coke and sports drink the volunteers had poured was basically a slushy. The volunteer said the temp was 8 degrees and the wind chill minus 30. On to the top.

Holy Jiminy Christmas! LOL picturing you with one glove, sucking your icy water like a lollipop.

I thought about Cy and his daily struggles

Amen!

Time to go before the medical folks started sniffing around. Hadn't come this far to quit and knew that the quicker I got off that godforesaken mountain, the better I would feel.

Mt. Mitchell Ultra Race Report - Part 3 (Summit to Parkway stop)

I ask, "All paved?". The reply was yes. Like some nut, I scream, "Hell Yeah!" and immediately broke to what seemed like a sprint.

LOL!

I knew I was moving and it felt great. Wondered how smart it was and then thought what would Sand do? Realized that smart pacing and Sand don't belong together and looked for other fbg guidance. Thought about Triman, but lunges didn't seem appropriate here. Thought about pigskin which got me thinking about my junk which got me thinking about how cold it was so I changed the subject. Thought about what Gru would do, but he'd be at the finish drinking at beer by now. So the obvious place to go was Ned and just watch the watch checking my hr and pace.



I was running and feeling like I was going into beast mode.



Awesome

Mt. Mitchell Ultra Race Report - Part 4 (Parkway stop to Finish)

Mile 29 - 9:59, 139 hr, 121 down. Picking some people off here and stepping on the gas. A sub 10 min mile...wtf...I'll take it.

unbelievable!

Mile 35 - 11:35, 129 hr, 971 ft down.

You could have almost slid down!

Finishing 1/8 mile - 5:36 pace, 153 hr, flat. I'll decicate this last 1/8th of a mile to Gru since I approached his pace here. Cross the finish. Obviously stoked, but my welcoming commitee isn't scheduled to be here for 45 minutes. That was a little let down as I wasn't able to share it with them.

In some way, a little cool that you got to have a moment alone. Also cool that you finished later for them.

Mt. Mitchell Ultra Race Report - Part 5 (Finish Part Deux and wrap up)

If I can do it, you surely can. A year ago my longest race had been 4 miles.

Sig worthy!

 

[Juxtatarot]

At some point around the 6th mile, I felt like I had a running orgasm. Things just, I dunno, released at that point. Suddenly all the tension was gone. Things were flowing effortlessly. I was floating. This is why we run.

I've been trying to understand the "Runner's High" but there seems to be some debate on exactly what it is or even if it exists. Although certainly not at an orgasmic level, I frequently will get mild highs and that effortless feeling when running. I think it can sometimes last several hours after I stop. It usually won't kick in until 4 or 5 miles and if I'm running slowly (like recovery run speed) I won't get it at all. I curious about some of the regulars in this thread. How frequently do you get highs and how intense are they?

 

[gruecd]

How frequently do you get highs and how intense are they?

Well lately I've been getting "highs" rather frequently, and they've been quite intense, TYVM! Oh, wait, we're talking about running...

 

[pigskinliquors]

JB: great attitude Bud! In hindsight, I truly wish I'd have run a lot less than I did. For me it is for health reasons, but family and health are about as good of reasons as I can imagine.

Grue: I have also enjoyed the regularity of these highs Great workouts will do that for you!

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My update:

I did P90x Chest/back again last night (third time in 8 days), and will do arm and shoulders again tonight (third time in 8 days). I'm not following the full program yet, but love feeling pumped up from these workouts.

 

[ThreeThousand]

Awesome RR BNB - makes we want to start running on trails.

 

[jb1020]

Bnb- I saving the rr to read tomorrow afternoon. Still stuck in this class goin nuts. I'll need a good read before packing my bags.

Sand- I'm in corral 11 (4:15 is what I put down). My number is fairly easy to see, 11211. I assume your in one of the first 3 or 4 corrals. Good luck to you. The weather looks a tad warm, but could be worse.

 

[Ned]

At some point around the 6th mile, I felt like I had a running orgasm. Things just, I dunno, released at that point. Suddenly all the tension was gone. Things were flowing effortlessly. I was floating. This is why we run.

I've been trying to understand the "Runner's High" but there seems to be some debate on exactly what it is or even if it exists. Although certainly not at an orgasmic level, I frequently will get mild highs and that effortless feeling when running. I think it can sometimes last several hours after I stop. It usually won't kick in until 4 or 5 miles and if I'm running slowly (like recovery run speed) I won't get it at all. I curious about some of the regulars in this thread. How frequently do you get highs and how intense are they?

It doesn't happen frequently enough, that's for damn sure. If one finds the formula for getting a true Runner's High on every run, they'll be multi-millionaires. I usually will hit a high when I'm either doing GA-MP work, and on occasion in the middle of a tempo run. I hadn't felt that loose and fluid since probably October when I was at the peak of marathon training.

 

[Ned]

Bnb- I saving the rr to read tomorrow afternoon. Still stuck in this class goin nuts. I'll need a good read before packing my bags. Sand- I'm in corral 11 (4:15 is what I put down). My number is fairly easy to see, 11211. I assume your in one of the first 3 or 4 corrals. Good luck to you. The weather looks a tad warm, but could be worse.

Go get'm, jb! Remember, its a 10K race with a 20mi warmup!

 

[jb1020]

Bnb- I saving the rr to read tomorrow afternoon. Still stuck in this class goin nuts. I'll need a good read before packing my bags. Sand- I'm in corral 11 (4:15 is what I put down). My number is fairly easy to see, 11211. I assume your in one of the first 3 or 4 corrals. Good luck to you. The weather looks a tad warm, but could be worse.

Go get'm, jb! Remember, its a 10K race with a 20mi warmup!

I like that. Thanks

 

[17seconds]

As for me. I think the hammer finally came down from the wife last night. The running has to be cut back or there will be problems. I have not figured out the logistics of everything yet as I am trying to figure out what I am going to do about running, but my marathon I am training for may be out.

Feel for you, dude. #### like this is one of the main reasons why I'm in the process of dividing the kingdom. I can't deal with my life being a constant state of compromise like that. Just can't do it. Hope everything works out for you.

Overall, it is not a bad thing. I pretty much knew I was fighting a losing battle with as many miles I was trying to get in anyway, so it really comes as no shocker for me. I think some time with less miles will be better for me overall. Compromise is tough to do. I have to look at it as me being more than a runner right now and running is not the most important thing. I will still run, just not as many miles as before. I could not do without it.

You got the right attitude about it. I understand the compromising part since my wife said I could keep doing what I'm doing, but only 1 marathon/year. These marathon training cycles certainly do put a strain on the family life, so I completely understand both sides of it.

My wife also runs in events but she's not a serious trainer. Even with that it can be a strain because we only have so much time on weekends, and going out on a 3hr run can be tough to get in.I do most of my training at work during lunch and eat at my desk. Luckily we have a shower room. That can be difficult as well because I'm pushing it with some 2hr lunches. When daylight savings hits I'm going to start doing the long runs at 5pm to finish by sunset.

 

[pmbrown_22]

As for me. I think the hammer finally came down from the wife last night. The running has to be cut back or there will be problems. I have not figured out the logistics of everything yet as I am trying to figure out what I am going to do about running, but my marathon I am training for may be out.

Feel for you, dude. #### like this is one of the main reasons why I'm in the process of dividing the kingdom. I can't deal with my life being a constant state of compromise like that. Just can't do it. Hope everything works out for you.

Overall, it is not a bad thing. I pretty much knew I was fighting a losing battle with as many miles I was trying to get in anyway, so it really comes as no shocker for me. I think some time with less miles will be better for me overall. Compromise is tough to do. I have to look at it as me being more than a runner right now and running is not the most important thing. I will still run, just not as many miles as before. I could not do without it.

You got the right attitude about it. I understand the compromising part since my wife said I could keep doing what I'm doing, but only 1 marathon/year. These marathon training cycles certainly do put a strain on the family life, so I completely understand both sides of it.

My wife also runs in events but she's not a serious trainer. Even with that it can be a strain because we only have so much time on weekends, and going out on a 3hr run can be tough to get in.I do most of my training at work during lunch and eat at my desk. Luckily we have a shower room. That can be difficult as well because I'm pushing it with some 2hr lunches. When daylight savings hits I'm going to start doing the long runs at 5pm to finish by sunset.

I am there with you on running at lunch. My lunch 1.5/2 hour are eventually going to get me in trouble. I think for this cycle I can get by with them if I can get permission for the weekend run. That one is the tricky one. I am trying to get my wife hooked on it as well, but not fairing so well. Especially now when she is not getting much sleep. Way I figure it is that the roads and sidewalks are not going anywhere so they will be there when I am able to get back out there.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I was scheduled for 10 today, but decided halfway through to do 12 instead since I was feeling good and had a relatively clean calendar for the day. It felt really nice to add the extra bit of mileage.

 

[sho nuff]

Still may get 4-5 recovery miles in today (with the weather I really should.

Just did not want to do it on the TM this morning so I hit the zoo with my daughter early (we take a class there on Thursdays) and enjoyed the weather with her.

Getting ready to strap the trailer to the bike with her and go pick up my son from school.

Maybe when the wife gets home I can get a run in...or just wait for the morning when I don't have the kids.

GL to Sand and jb this weekend.

 

[tri-man 47]

As for me. I think the hammer finally came down from the wife last night. The running has to be cut back or there will be problems. I have not figured out the logistics of everything yet as I am trying to figure out what I am going to do about running, but my marathon I am training for may be out.

Feel for you, dude. #### like this is one of the main reasons why I'm in the process of dividing the kingdom. I can't deal with my life being a constant state of compromise like that. Just can't do it. Hope everything works out for you.

Overall, it is not a bad thing. I pretty much knew I was fighting a losing battle with as many miles I was trying to get in anyway, so it really comes as no shocker for me. I think some time with less miles will be better for me overall. Compromise is tough to do. I have to look at it as me being more than a runner right now and running is not the most important thing. I will still run, just not as many miles as before. I could not do without it.

The bolded is key, given the family commitments and the basic fact that they are your priority. I never even considered marathoning in my early years, and I set aside the triathlons for ten years while the kids were young. I was very happy with a 5K focus ...I could do some hard training during lunchtime and then adding short, but intense, weekend training. When the kids were older, it was then great to get back to longer events. Of course, this doctoral work is pushing me back to the speed work for a couple of years again.

 

[2Young2BBald]

As for me. I think the hammer finally came down from the wife last night. The running has to be cut back or there will be problems. I have not figured out the logistics of everything yet as I am trying to figure out what I am going to do about running, but my marathon I am training for may be out.

Feel for you, dude. #### like this is one of the main reasons why I'm in the process of dividing the kingdom. I can't deal with my life being a constant state of compromise like that. Just can't do it. Hope everything works out for you.

Overall, it is not a bad thing. I pretty much knew I was fighting a losing battle with as many miles I was trying to get in anyway, so it really comes as no shocker for me. I think some time with less miles will be better for me overall. Compromise is tough to do. I have to look at it as me being more than a runner right now and running is not the most important thing. I will still run, just not as many miles as before. I could not do without it.

Good for you for having your priorities straight. Good racing will be there on the other side when the kids are older. Throttle back and race for fun now and then and train without a schedule. I think it's still important to role model a healthy lifestyle for the kids and having them see you race now and then would be a good thing.

 

[BassNBrew]

As for me. I think the hammer finally came down from the wife last night. The running has to be cut back or there will be problems. I have not figured out the logistics of everything yet as I am trying to figure out what I am going to do about running, but my marathon I am training for may be out.

Feel for you, dude. #### like this is one of the main reasons why I'm in the process of dividing the kingdom. I can't deal with my life being a constant state of compromise like that. Just can't do it. Hope everything works out for you.

Overall, it is not a bad thing. I pretty much knew I was fighting a losing battle with as many miles I was trying to get in anyway, so it really comes as no shocker for me. I think some time with less miles will be better for me overall. Compromise is tough to do. I have to look at it as me being more than a runner right now and running is not the most important thing. I will still run, just not as many miles as before. I could not do without it.

Just curious and pose this to anyone out there, but how does a 3 hr long run that you can start at the crack of dawn compare to a 5 hour round of golf plus travel time? Are our lives getting to the point that we have to forgo hobbies?Personally I think you can be successful in a marathon on 4 days a week. If you have kids, a great way to get a run in during their soccer practice. That knocks out the medium run. Two short runs shouldn't be an issue for anyone. Matter of fact, those should almost be mandatory for health reasons. That get us back to having to schedule one long run. 2 x .75, 1 x 3, and 1 x 1.5 = 6 hours a week. If you're not allowed 3 hours a week, then you have an issue with someone who doesn't care enough about you to take care of your health/life span.

 

[Sand]

What are you talking about when you say Sanding it (Sand can answer also obviously)

Let's just say I have a tendency to start races a bit too fast. Works great for 5ks (seriously, it does). Other races, really not so much. Unless you are BnB, then it works great for 40 milers!

jb1020 & Sand - Good luck in NOLA this weekend!! I'm actually registered for the half, and if it wasn't a RNR event, I'd have you grab my stuff and mail it to me!

Gru, I'm pretty sure you can get them to send you the shirt, at least. I'd contact them. Their registration procedures are quite strict, so no way I could swing by and grab your stuff. If I could I certainly would.

Sand- I'm in corral 11 (4:15 is what I put down). My number is fairly easy to see, 11211. I assume your in one of the first 3 or 4 corrals. Good luck to you. The weather looks a tad warm, but could be worse.

I am in corral 2. Number 2435 (also pretty easy!). For New Orleans I'm pretty happy with the weather outlook. Not bad at all.

GL to Sand and jb this weekend.

Thanks! I will officially not be racing this. Just not enough running after my injuries to do anything decent. It will be a fun, hard run.

 

[pigskinliquors]

Way I figure it is that the roads and sidewalks are not going anywhere so they will be there when I am able to get back out there.

Great statement, that is unless
I did my last marathon, and my ultra with just 3 running days per week (1 long, 1 speed, 1 pace). For both I would consider my time extremely successful, and the experience damn euphoric. I'm sure if I'd have trained harder, I could have been faster, but it in no way diminished my experiences. JB and Sand: Have a blast this weekend!!

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My update:

I got in a great 18 mile bike ride yesterday after work followed immediately with P90x arms/shoulders. The winds were darn strong (18+ MPH), yet I somehow pulled all miles at 20.0 mph or better. I averaged 21.4 MPH, with an AVE HR of 166 (high for a training ride) and had a HR MAX of 186 (uphill mile, into the wind, completed in exactly 3:00). Had I needed to reach 2:59, I could not have done it.

 

[Sand]

JB and Sand: Have a blast this weekend!!

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My update:

I got in a great 18 mile bike ride yesterday after work followed immediately with P90x arms/shoulders. The winds were darn strong (18+ MPH), yet I somehow pulled all miles at 20.0 mph or better. I averaged 21.4 MPH, with an AVE HR of 166 (high for a training ride) and had a HR MAX of 186 (uphill mile, into the wind, completed in exactly 3:00). Had I needed to reach 2:59, I could not have done it.

First, thanks! I am certainly going to try to have a good race.Second, you really need to upload some of your rides to Strava. The whole segment ranking system is awesome and you'll start really hitting those hills to see where you stack up. Love that place. Example.

 

[pmbrown_22]

Sand and jb --Best of luck this weekend.

As for me. I think the hammer finally came down from the wife last night. The running has to be cut back or there will be problems. I have not figured out the logistics of everything yet as I am trying to figure out what I am going to do about running, but my marathon I am training for may be out.

Feel for you, dude. #### like this is one of the main reasons why I'm in the process of dividing the kingdom. I can't deal with my life being a constant state of compromise like that. Just can't do it. Hope everything works out for you.

Overall, it is not a bad thing. I pretty much knew I was fighting a losing battle with as many miles I was trying to get in anyway, so it really comes as no shocker for me. I think some time with less miles will be better for me overall. Compromise is tough to do. I have to look at it as me being more than a runner right now and running is not the most important thing. I will still run, just not as many miles as before. I could not do without it.

Just curious and pose this to anyone out there, but how does a 3 hr long run that you can start at the crack of dawn compare to a 5 hour round of golf plus travel time? Are our lives getting to the point that we have to forgo hobbies?Personally I think you can be successful in a marathon on 4 days a week. If you have kids, a great way to get a run in during their soccer practice. That knocks out the medium run. Two short runs shouldn't be an issue for anyone. Matter of fact, those should almost be mandatory for health reasons. That get us back to having to schedule one long run. 2 x .75, 1 x 3, and 1 x 1.5 = 6 hours a week. If you're not allowed 3 hours a week, then you have an issue with someone who doesn't care enough about you to take care of your health/life span.

I don't think my wife has a problem with me going out for 3 hours on a weekend to complete a long run. I am not able to do them early in the morning with feedings and such for the little one. I have to give my wife a break some times and that is when I choose to do it. I think she more has a problem with me trying to get my rest and going to be early when she is staying up til all hours trying to get the little guy down. I can understand where she is coming from and don't think it is so selfish.I think every situation is different regarding kids (for those that have them). Right now my boys are young enough that they don't have long practices that I can take advantage of, plus if I am not coaching them, I am trying to watch the practices so I can help them on the side. I am trying to walk both sides of the line and give them what they need and try and do what I want to do. I think right now in my life, I just can't do that because of a 2 month old in the house and we are kind of at his mercy right now. My wife has been great and very supportive, but I have been able to get my training in when it does not interfere with the rest of the family. It is starting to creep into the family now so I have to understand the broader picture.To further the point of just racing for fun. I can do that to a point, but these races are not getting any cheaper and in fact I feel like they are getting almost too expensive. Saying that if I am running a big race, for me personally, I want to try and make it a really strong effort. For me, that means getting in as much training as I can. Maybe I am different than most, but I love to race, but for me the training is much more the challenge and rewarding than the races that I have run. The race is just the bi-product of my efforts. So to me the training (hard) and racing go hand in hand...it is just the way I am built.All that said, I am still going to run and I think I can live with what I have to wait through as I would not change being a parent for anything. Running can't compete with that.

 

[gruecd]

One small favor to ask you guys. As someone who's made a conscious decision to not have kids, if we could keep this from becoming a place where one person's priorities are deemed to be "right" or "wrong," that would be great. I'm not accusing anybody of anything, but I know in the past I've become alienated from different groups of people when it got to the point where all they did was talk about their kids all the time. I like you guys, so I hope that doesn't happen here. In short, to each his own!

Happy Friday, dudes!

 

[Sand]

One small favor to ask you guys. As someone who's made a conscious decision to not have kids, if we could keep this from becoming a place where one person's priorities are deemed to be "right" or "wrong," that would be great. I'm not accusing anybody of anything, but I know in the past I've become alienated from different groups of people when it got to the point where all they did was talk about their kids all the time. I like you guys, so I hope that doesn't happen here. In short, to each his own!

Happy Friday, dudes!

Let's see - you like to run, females (or at least you fake it well ), and beer. Yeah, I think you're good.

 

[jb1020]

Finally got around to the RR BnB, awesome time.

Thanks for the well wishes from everyone for this weekend. I feel ready, all that's left to do is run this #####.

 

[tri-man 47]

Finally got around to the RR BnB, awesome time. Thanks for the well wishes from everyone for this weekend. I feel ready, all that's left to do is run this #####.

Go get 'em, jb!!!

 

[Sand]

Finally got around to the RR BnB, awesome time. Thanks for the well wishes from everyone for this weekend. I feel ready, all that's left to do is run this #####.

GL, JB. Watch your footing as the roads in NO suck (built on mud and all that). Stay in the center of the street. Because NO is completely, utterly flat the crown in the roads tend to be bigger for drainage.

 

[jb1020]

Finally got around to the RR BnB, awesome time. Thanks for the well wishes from everyone for this weekend. I feel ready, all that's left to do is run this #####.

GL, JB. Watch your footing as the roads in NO suck (built on mud and all that). Stay in the center of the street. Because NO is completely, utterly flat the crown in the roads tend to be bigger for drainage.

Being from Mississippi, I know all about ####ty roads. Good luck!

 

[Sand]

Finally got around to the RR BnB, awesome time. Thanks for the well wishes from everyone for this weekend. I feel ready, all that's left to do is run this #####.

GL, JB. Watch your footing as the roads in NO suck (built on mud and all that). Stay in the center of the street. Because NO is completely, utterly flat the crown in the roads tend to be bigger for drainage.

Being from Mississippi, I know all about ####ty roads. Good luck!

No offense to you Mississippian sensibilities, but NO is the epicenter of ####ty roads. No other place in the US is even close.But good to hear you aren't expecting pristine blacktop. Just think of it as an urban trail run.

 

[2Young2BBald]

Finally got around to the RR BnB, awesome time.

Thanks for the well wishes from everyone for this weekend. I feel ready, all that's left to do is run this #####.

GL, JB. Watch your footing as the roads in NO suck (built on mud and all that). Stay in the center of the street. Because NO is completely, utterly flat the crown in the roads tend to be bigger for drainage.

Being from Mississippi, I know all about ####ty roads. Good luck!

No offense to you Mississippian sensibilities, but NO is the epicenter of ####ty roads. No other place in the US is even close.But good to hear you aren't expecting pristine blacktop. Just think of it as an urban trail run.

You should wait until you get to Detroit later this year before finalizing this opinion. I worked in NOLA for three months post Katrina and Detroit is exponentially worse.

 

[jb1020]

Just received some excellent news I needed before this weekend. I've been stuck in class all week for this insurance agency license I desperately need for work. I had completely forgotten about this class on Tuesday morning and realized I was supposed to be there.

My mind has been wrapped around too many different things the past few months. I had actually signed up to take the test March 9th, but half way thru class I got an itch to get it over with and was actually able to get my test moved to this morning.

The last thing I wanted to do was run for 4 hours in Nola thinking about this test I had to take.

I cut myself a week short, but just got the email I passed. Needed a 70, got a 71.

#### yeah!

 

[prosopis]

PM- You are doing the right thing. Family has to come first. I like a lot of what Tri man has to say about this subject. The kids are only kids for so long. Enjoy them. I have four of my own and I hear what you are saying.

BnB- Freaking great race report

Good luck to all the racers this weekend.

Grue- I dont know your personal business but I am always saddened by a marital breakup. You do what you have to do. Please dont get tired of us guys. I enjoy vicariously living through you wild and crazy single guys. I love stories about drinking and hot running girls.I think you and pigskins should get together. That may be an epic tale.

* On a side note I I think many may know I am an emotional/sissy guy. BnB race report had me tearing up and then Pmbrown pushed me over the edge. I felt like I was going through the change

 

[tri-man 47]

Just received some excellent news I needed before this weekend. I've been stuck in class all week for this insurance agency license I desperately need for work. I had completely forgotten about this class on Tuesday morning and realized I was supposed to be there.

My mind has been wrapped around too many different things the past few months. I had actually signed up to take the test March 9th, but half way thru class I got an itch to get it over with and was actually able to get my test moved to this morning.

The last thing I wanted to do was run for 4 hours in Nola thinking about this test I had to take.

I cut myself a week short, but just got the email I passed. Needed a 70, got a 71.

#### yeah!

See? You SandedTM the schedule, and got the results.

 

[tri-man 47]

Finished off a recovery week - three runs totaling 27 miles. A 7 miler with some brisk fartlek over the back half; a 5 miler with four, quarter-mile 'block striders' (one stride per sidewalk square); then today an interesting 15 miler. It was cold (32) and very windy, so as my wife took the expressway to the burbs, she dropped me off by an exit and I ran on home with the wind at my back. I dipped south a bit to catch a seven mile paved trail for the middle of the run. Partway along the trail, a woman came alongside and we got talking as I picked it up to her pace. While I had been cruising comfortably at about 8:25/mile, I looked during the 3 1/2 miles with my new running buddy to see that we were cranking 7:05's while chatting away! I finished the last 6 miles at about an 8:00 pace (and the 15 mile run at 7:56/mile). Turns out (per some stalking) that this woman is 48 ..and fast. She has a sub-2:50 marathon to her name and is still sub-3:00. Her recent 5K time is mid-18's.

 

[Ned]

Finished off a recovery week - three runs totaling 27 miles. A 7 miler with some brisk fartlek over the back half; a 5 miler with four, quarter-mile 'block striders' (one stride per sidewalk square); then today an interesting 15 miler. It was cold (32) and very windy, so as my wife took the expressway to the burbs, she dropped me off by an exit and I ran on home with the wind at my back. I dipped south a bit to catch a seven mile paved trail for the middle of the run. Partway along the trail, a woman came alongside and we got talking as I picked it up to her pace. While I had been cruising comfortably at about 8:25/mile, I looked during the 3 1/2 miles with my new running buddy to see that we were cranking 7:05's while chatting away! I finished the last 6 miles at about an 8:00 pace (and the 15 mile run at 7:56/mile). Turns out (per some stalking) that this woman is 48 ..and fast. She has a sub-2:50 marathon to her name and is still sub-3:00. Her recent 5K time is mid-18's.

Wow you are in prime shape right now! If anyone runs in the Brooks Casicadia's, Amazon has them for 38% off right now.

 

[prosopis]

Finished off a recovery week - three runs totaling 27 miles. A 7 miler with some brisk fartlek over the back half; a 5 miler with four, quarter-mile 'block striders' (one stride per sidewalk square); then today an interesting 15 miler. It was cold (32) and very windy, so as my wife took the expressway to the burbs, she dropped me off by an exit and I ran on home with the wind at my back. I dipped south a bit to catch a seven mile paved trail for the middle of the run. Partway along the trail, a woman came alongside and we got talking as I picked it up to her pace. While I had been cruising comfortably at about 8:25/mile, I looked during the 3 1/2 miles with my new running buddy to see that we were cranking 7:05's while chatting away! I finished the last 6 miles at about an 8:00 pace (and the 15 mile run at 7:56/mile). Turns out (per some stalking) that this woman is 48 ..and fast. She has a sub-2:50 marathon to her name and is still sub-3:00. Her recent 5K time is mid-18's.

Odd, my pace also picks up when I see a lady.

 

[2Young2BBald]

If anyone runs in the Brooks Casicadia's, Amazon has them for 38% off right now.

That is a STEAL if they can actually be bought for $67.75. Looks like the 7 is out, which must be why the 6 is going on sale. The 6 is the best trail shoe I've ever had. Incredibly light, very stable and the funky sole grips real well.

 

[Ned]

If anyone runs in the Brooks Casicadia's, Amazon has them for 38% off right now.

That is a STEAL if they can actually be bought for $67.75. Looks like the 7 is out, which must be why the 6 is going on sale. The 6 is the best trail shoe I've ever had. Incredibly light, very stable and the funky sole grips real well.

I love these shoes. We have the amazon prime membership so I got them for the 67.75 price. I needed a second pair since the HM course has two creek crossings. They're strongly recommending you change shoes in between the HM and 10K races. This was perfect timing. My shoe obsession is getting worse than a chick's.

 

[tri-man 47]

Finished off a recovery week - three runs totaling 27 miles. A 7 miler with some brisk fartlek over the back half; a 5 miler with four, quarter-mile 'block striders' (one stride per sidewalk square); then today an interesting 15 miler. It was cold (32) and very windy, so as my wife took the expressway to the burbs, she dropped me off by an exit and I ran on home with the wind at my back. I dipped south a bit to catch a seven mile paved trail for the middle of the run. Partway along the trail, a woman came alongside and we got talking as I picked it up to her pace. While I had been cruising comfortably at about 8:25/mile, I looked during the 3 1/2 miles with my new running buddy to see that we were cranking 7:05's while chatting away! I finished the last 6 miles at about an 8:00 pace (and the 15 mile run at 7:56/mile). Turns out (per some stalking) that this woman is 48 ..and fast. She has a sub-2:50 marathon to her name and is still sub-3:00. Her recent 5K time is mid-18's.

Odd, my pace also picks up when I see a lady.

I hear ya! This one has talent:http://runsmartproject.com/coaching/2011/12/07/christen-meyer-cracks-three-hours-at-cal-international-marathon/#more-4077http://runsmartproject.com/news/2006/10/christen-meyer-sets-new-10k-pr.html

 

[prosopis]

8 miles yesterday. The most since my sickness. I am feeling better.

 

[Sand]

Gents,

Race is done. 1:42:30 or so(7:47/mile). About what I figured with my pitiful training. I did hit mile 1 at 7:01, so a nice serene start for me. Tightened up at mile 10th or so, which fits with my limited long runs.

Just cold enough for full spandex leggings, which made the views incredible.

 

[Ned]

Gents, Race is done. 1:42:30 or so(7:47/mile). About what I figured with my pitiful training. I did hit mile 1 at 7:01, so a nice serene start for me. Tightened up at mile 10th or so, which fits with my limited long runs. Just cold enough for full spandex leggings, which made the views incredible.

Sand that's a great time with all the bumps and bruises you put up with this winter. Hopefully it's a building block for a strong summer.

 

[jb1020]

Nice job sand!

I just stumbled to the car...it was the longest walk ever.

I finished at 4:33. I felt great the first 14 miles or so, but about mile 16 I thought to myself I'll be lucky to finish this thing.

Thanks to everyone here, could not have done it without y'all.