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Ran a 10k in June (5 Viewers)

9 in today right at 10 min/mile average over the 9.

Did better today trying to control my HR in the hills, just really had to back off on a few of them.

12 miles on Friday for my long run this week, then 4 recovery miles on Saturday or Sunday.

 
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You guys are a bad influence.OK.. how about no drinking the 2 nights before the race?
:thumbdown: Don't discount the importance of celebration training.
then tequila shots the night before but i'm stopping at 8
A beer or two here or there ain't gonna kill ya. Hell I make it a point to have a beer or glass of wine the night before every race. I need all the chillin I can get. :highstrung: :excited:
:thumbup: I do all my long runs on Saturday mornings and I cant remember the last Friday night where I didn't get my drink on. At this point my body is just trained to handle da booze. I drank the night before my first marathon without thinking twice about it. :banned:
 
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Mostly to keep from gaining weight during my taper. I've been training for 4mos and I haven't lost a friggin pound. 180lbs. Do not want to go into the race a 185.
Stick to vodka or bourbon. You get drunk too quick to get a lot of calories in.----

On my end, an interesting week so far. Bagged a swim Monday due to being sick (thanks to my 6 year old). I'm winding down right now, so got my work done yesterday and today - yesterday was a 30 mile ride with a few new PRs. Felt great on that ride and really rode strong :excited: . Today was a 5 mile run at lunch, holding a relatively easy 8:30 pace (getting hot, though). Tonight was a 2k swim. The main set was a 1500TT - done in 19:43(karate chop! :ninja: ). Not bad considering the run and bike before this and about 20 seconds faster than last year. Pretty good set of workouts and it will ease up from here.

 
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40 min tempo run was on the schedule for today. I decided to make it 6 miles instead of by time. I think I'm doing this right? Only my second attempt at a tempo run.

1 - 9:10 141

2 - 8:35 150

3 - 7:51 160

4 - 7:14 166

5 - 6:51 172

6 - 8:19 163

.37 - 8:13 161

 
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40 min tempo run was on the schedule for today. I decided to make it 6 miles instead of by time. I think I'm doing this right? Only my second attempt at a tempo run.

1 - 9:10 141

2 - 8:35 150

3 - 7:51 160

4 - 7:14 166

5 - 6:51 172

6 - 8:19 163

.37 - 8:13 161

A little something non running related - We were talking here about our kids working out with us and being so flexible - Was looking through some pictures on my phone and came across one of my 4 year old twins (3 in the picture) showing me their "yoga" that they were doing at day care. Nothing crazy here just thought it was funny. They had about 6-7 different poses to show us.

namaste
Solid speed on miles 4 & 5 but if you're doing a tempo run, you generally want to be a little more consistent in your pacing. The idea is run at a pace which is challenging but sustainable for whatever distance you're running that day. I try to keep my miles between 5 to 10 seconds of each other.
 
Damn. I won't have more than a drink or two the week before an event and at least a few days before any challenging training run. I don't know if it's more physical or mental but any time I get drunk, I pay for it during my runs for at least a day and a half.

 
Decent run this afternoon. Purposely waited until late afternoon so I'd be running in the heat, and then did 7 miles including 2 at ~GHMP (6:25, 6:27).

Still gonna shoot for the 1:25 on Sunday. Probably a pipe dream considering the heat, but #### it. It's only a half. Worst-case scenario, it'll be a few painful-as-hell miles at the end.

 
Damn. I won't have more than a drink or two the week before an event and at least a few days before any challenging training run. I don't know if it's more physical or mental but any time I get drunk, I pay for it during my runs for at least a day and a half.
I think it really just comes down to your body adapting to your diet and training. If you're used to drinking a 6 pack on friday and running on a saturday, your body will respond fine. If you never drink the night before, there's a good chance you might have poor result the next day. Now, saying all that. I still make sure that I'm hydrated before running. I usually just drink a glass of water before bed and then drink water in the morning. This has always worked for me. :shrug:
 
Mostly to keep from gaining weight during my taper. I've been training for 4mos and I haven't lost a friggin pound. 180lbs. Do not want to go into the race a 185.
Stick to vodka or bourbon. You get drunk too quick to get a lot of calories in.----

On my end, an interesting week so far. Bagged a swim Monday due to being sick (thanks to my 6 year old). I'm winding down right now, so got my work done yesterday and today - yesterday was a 30 mile ride with a few new PRs. Felt great on that ride and really rode strong :excited: . Today was a 5 mile run at lunch, holding a relatively easy 8:30 pace (getting hot, though). Tonight was a 2k swim. The main set was a 1500TT - done in 19:43(karate chop! :ninja: ). Not bad considering the run and bike before this and about 20 seconds faster than last year. Pretty good set of workouts and it will ease up from here.
Awesome.

5 mile run "at lunch"

not to get too gay, but how is the scenery on that bike ride?

 
40 min tempo run was on the schedule for today. I decided to make it 6 miles instead of by time. I think I'm doing this right? Only my second attempt at a tempo run.

1 - 9:10 141

2 - 8:35 150

3 - 7:51 160

4 - 7:14 166

5 - 6:51 172

6 - 8:19 163

.37 - 8:13 161

A little something non running related - We were talking here about our kids working out with us and being so flexible - Was looking through some pictures on my phone and came across one of my 4 year old twins (3 in the picture) showing me their "yoga" that they were doing at day care. Nothing crazy here just thought it was funny. They had about 6-7 different poses to show us.

namaste
Solid speed on miles 4 & 5 but if you're doing a tempo run, you generally want to be a little more consistent in your pacing. The idea is run at a pace which is challenging but sustainable for whatever distance you're running that day. I try to keep my miles between 5 to 10 seconds of each other.
:goodposting: nice run, regardless.

 
but how is the scenery on that bike ride?
Chickitude is awesome at the start and end, but honestly there is only one girl that can keep up during the ride.
Pretty sure he was actually asking about... you know... the landscape scenery... :otis:
You mean I'm supposed to be looking at something other than chicks' asses? Scenery is decent. We have better around here, but the climbs are good (2k ft in a 30 mile ride).
 
'Protocols of Stringer Bell said:
Running my first 10k this Sunday (in Santa Monica). Have been reading alot of the advice in here, excited for it
Just picture Omar chasing you and you'll probably win your age group.
:lmao: I thought I was being original with an Omar reference and I see you beat me to it.
 
We interrupt your regularly scheduled heart rate talk for me to ##### about the weather...

I seriously can't get a ####### break lately.... :hot:

Marathon Prepares for Hot Weather

Back to your regularly scheduled programming...
Sorry about this. I know you are no fan of the heat. If any one can over come it I do believe it is you though. Drink a pre race gatorade slushy and goooooo!!!!!!!!!On the glass half full side I would expect lots of chicks wearing less clothing and maybe even some wet sweaty t shirts :excited:

 
Research has shown that endurance athletes get the best results from their training when they do 80 percent of it at a truly low intensity (below the lactate threshold), 10 percent at moderate intensity (at or near the lactate threshold), and 10 percent at a high intensity (above the lactate threshold).
Discuss.
 
'Protocols of Stringer Bell said:
Running my first 10k this Sunday (in Santa Monica). Have been reading alot of the advice in here, excited for it
My favorite race distance. Have a blast!
Research has shown that endurance athletes get the best results from their training when they do 80 percent of it at a truly low intensity (below the lactate threshold), 10 percent at moderate intensity (at or near the lactate threshold), and 10 percent at a high intensity (above the lactate threshold).
Discuss.
I'm so ####ed.
 
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Research has shown that endurance athletes get the best results from their training when they do 80 percent of it at a truly low intensity (below the lactate threshold), 10 percent at moderate intensity (at or near the lactate threshold), and 10 percent at a high intensity (above the lactate threshold).
Discuss.
Ive been trying to cut back to something like that.I think my intervals and even tempos or pace runs were taking up too high of a percentage and it was hurting me some.Increasing my base with more slower miles to hopefully balance it out better.
 
Life got real busy the last few weeks coaching baseball, volunteering at track meets and this whole job thing that keeps getting in the way. I've stuck to the don't miss your long day mantra, but other than swimming during the week, I've had few quality workouts. Seems like I am maintaining the aerobic fitness, but the strength is sure off. Lots of good stuff going on here and I appreciate the booze chat. I had the brilliant idea to train for a marathon while giving up booze for lent. It was miserable for me and my friends made me promise to never do something so stupid again as I was apparently very boring (they kept calling me Fun Bobby).

Sand, again, I can't wait to read the 5K swim report. That 1500 TT at sub 20 is hard to wrap my brain around, especially during what should be a swim taper week. I did 2,000 last night too, but at a much less insane pace.

Gru, be safe this weekend. I am running a half too and highs here are predicted to be 86. Way different approach for me. I signed up for this one based on the course and not for any type of speed goal. Every type of surface on this one and tons of hills. This will be a training-fun run. Seeing the predicted heat, I did post a question on the Race's FB page asking if there would be electrolyte replacements at any of the aid stations. I got PM from one of the volunteers that they would not have these but would have non-race sanctioned Jell-o shots. My kind of race! Someone cited the amount of skin that should be out there on races this weekend. I am sure it will be a sports bra-lycra-fest. Looking at last year's results and those posting on this year's FB page, it appears that over 1/2 the filed will be women 20-35.

 
Sooooo, after a long break - close to 5 months - I finally got my fat self out for my first training run of 2012. yes, 2012. Anyway, it was a short 2.5 mile run in 22:31.

1 8:49 169 HR Avg.

2 9:10 180 HR avg.

.5 4:41 182 HR Avg.

Felt really good throughout the entire run. It was good to get out and get some training in. Looking forward to posting more in here again.

 
Oh yea!

I have an "adult tricycle" :bag: here at work I use to get back/forth from plant to plant.

I realized i could use my GPS watch to track my distance. :nerd:

I start/stop when i get on/off.

Take the long way to get from point A to point B, go for joy rides or do circles in the parking lot.

So far in a couple of hours, I am at 2.15m

Any drawbacks to this?

I was thinking of doing this perhaps on off running days?

OK to do on days when I do run?

When I do run, I am basically doing 3m at a 10ish pace.

 
Oh yea!I have an "adult tricycle" :bag: here at work I use to get back/forth from plant to plant.I realized i could use my GPS watch to track my distance. :nerd:I start/stop when i get on/off. Take the long way to get from point A to point B, go for joy rides or do circles in the parking lot.So far in a couple of hours, I am at 2.15mAny drawbacks to this?I was thinking of doing this perhaps on off running days?OK to do on days when I do run?When I do run, I am basically doing 3m at a 10ish pace.
This is active recovery type stuff. I don't think you can hurt anything doing this.
 
Tempo Day! 5 miles at Mid-Tempo Pace (8:15 target), 1/2 mile wu/cd:

4 miles @ 8:07, 174 HR

1 mile @ 7:41, 184 HR

5 miles @ 8:02 (40:10), 176 HR

Felt like I was really pushing hard that last mile. I'm not planning on trying to crush my target pace on most of my runs, but I'm still getting a feel for where I'm at.

 
'wraith5 said:
Research has shown that endurance athletes get the best results from their training when they do 80 percent of it at a truly low intensity (below the lactate threshold), 10 percent at moderate intensity (at or near the lactate threshold), and 10 percent at a high intensity (above the lactate threshold).
Discuss.
From strictly an experienced runner's perspective, I agree 100% with the premise. I'd even argue that marathoner's should be 85-90% endurance based.
 
Week #3 post-triple and I'm finally getting back to a more normal training volume. Ahhh, what a relief.

Tue - 5mi recovery. Snuck out between thunderstorms, which made for a very muggy run. It took all I had to keep the HR down to a respectable level. 10:09/139

Wed - 8mi MLR. YUCK. The only time I had to get this in was at lunch, which was the hottest part of the day. 83 degrees and humid. I usually don't carry water on anything under 10, unless it's hot. Today, however, I had to ration the 12oz bottle I carried with me. :X My watch somehow didn't recognize my HR strap, so I was flying blind. I'm guessing I was right around 150. Average pace was a meager 9:43.

Thur - 5mi recovery. Cold front blew through last night... What a gorgeous day for a run. I so wanted to turn this into an 8mi GA or so, but I decided to play it safe since I'm still tecnically in recovery mode. 9:50/134 (amazing how the conditions affect you)

I took the plunge and bought the MOTOACTV last week and so far I love this thing. The technology jump from the Garmin 305 is huge. The instant wifi sync was worth it alone. By the time I walk in the house, cool down, and get a drink, the run is already uploaded to the MOTOACTV website. So cool. :nerd: I think yesterday's HR mishap was because I turned it on before putting on the strap, which is a bunch of crap. Hopefully it was just an isolated incident since it's worked fine on the 3 other runs I've used it so far.

 
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At what point in your marathon taper should you stop feeling sore?

Based on the workouts left through this weekend, pretty sure I'll still have some soreness with 2 weeks to go... Should I rest-out the soreness now or hope it gradually fades?

 
At what point in your marathon taper should you stop feeling sore?Based on the workouts left through this weekend, pretty sure I'll still have some soreness with 2 weeks to go... Should I rest-out the soreness now or hope it gradually fades?
By the end of the 2nd week, you should be feeling a big difference. You'll probably go to the opposite end of the spectrum and get really anxious about not running enough <insert taper madness here>. Dead or heavy legs is pretty common also. Trust the training...The taper is designed with 1 purpose in mind - getting you to the starting line as healthy as possible with losing the least amount of fitness. Your weekly volume is going to decrease a little bit the first week, with a more significant drop in week 2, then next to no running (relatively speaking) for race week. If there's one thing I learned about the taper, its to decrease volume but maintain intensity (pretty sure that came from the Pfitz book). Don't start loafing on your runs because you're tapering. The drop in volume is the key.
 
At what point in your marathon taper should you stop feeling sore?Based on the workouts left through this weekend, pretty sure I'll still have some soreness with 2 weeks to go... Should I rest-out the soreness now or hope it gradually fades?
I imagine this would vary quite a bit per individual. I, for instance, rarely get sore muscles. I have more issues with mild tendonosis and stuff like that. If I were you, I'd just stick with the schedule.
 
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At what point in your marathon taper should you stop feeling sore?

Based on the workouts left through this weekend, pretty sure I'll still have some soreness with 2 weeks to go... Should I rest-out the soreness now or hope it gradually fades?
By the end of the 2nd week, you should be feeling a big difference. You'll probably go to the opposite end of the spectrum and get really anxious about not running enough <insert taper madness here>. Dead or heavy legs is pretty common also. Trust the training...The taper is designed with 1 purpose in mind - getting you to the starting line as healthy as possible with losing the least amount of fitness. Your weekly volume is going to decrease a little bit the first week, with a more significant drop in week 2, then next to no running (relatively speaking) for race week. If there's one thing I learned about the taper, its to decrease volume but maintain intensity (pretty sure that came from the Pfitz book). Don't start loafing on your runs because you're tapering. The drop in volume is the key.
:goodposting: Checking my 5K course for this weekend, I saw a 30-40 foot rise/fall around mile 1 then again on the way back around mile 2. I mean, you can't train for hills like that. You can only hope to endure. Right? :rolleyes: Anyway, it led me to add a new workout this a.m. Drove to a nearby urban hill (long and high RR overpass) and did some repeats (=3 miles). I should add that as a regular routine ...it's the best I can do for a weekday hill workout.

 
Mostly to keep from gaining weight during my taper. I've been training for 4mos and I haven't lost a friggin pound. 180lbs. Do not want to go into the race a 185.
Stick to vodka or bourbon. You get drunk too quick to get a lot of calories in.----

On my end, an interesting week so far. Bagged a swim Monday due to being sick (thanks to my 6 year old). I'm winding down right now, so got my work done yesterday and today - yesterday was a 30 mile ride with a few new PRs. Felt great on that ride and really rode strong :excited: . Today was a 5 mile run at lunch, holding a relatively easy 8:30 pace (getting hot, though). Tonight was a 2k swim. The main set was a 1500TT - done in 19:43(karate chop! :ninja: ). Not bad considering the run and bike before this and about 20 seconds faster than last year. Pretty good set of workouts and it will ease up from here.
Yo gb. 41 miles this morning at 20.4 mph pace (road bike, poopy wheels). Haven't downloaded the elevation yet, but it's the hillest local route we have. Feel like I'm starting to get the bike legs back. Flew up some short 7%er's at 20 mph and then blew up.Aero wheels going back on soon.

 
Mostly to keep from gaining weight during my taper. I've been training for 4mos and I haven't lost a friggin pound. 180lbs. Do not want to go into the race a 185.
Stick to vodka or bourbon. You get drunk too quick to get a lot of calories in.----

On my end, an interesting week so far. Bagged a swim Monday due to being sick (thanks to my 6 year old). I'm winding down right now, so got my work done yesterday and today - yesterday was a 30 mile ride with a few new PRs. Felt great on that ride and really rode strong :excited: . Today was a 5 mile run at lunch, holding a relatively easy 8:30 pace (getting hot, though). Tonight was a 2k swim. The main set was a 1500TT - done in 19:43(karate chop! :ninja: ). Not bad considering the run and bike before this and about 20 seconds faster than last year. Pretty good set of workouts and it will ease up from here.
Yo gb. 41 miles this morning at 20.4 mph pace (road bike, poopy wheels). Haven't downloaded the elevation yet, but it's the hillest local route we have. Feel like I'm starting to get the bike legs back. Flew up some short 7%er's at 20 mph and then blew up.Aero wheels going back on soon.
:thumbup: Those short punchy climbs always blow me up. I lose ground there and tend to pass people up the longer the climb.My bike is seemingly doing pretty well. Really happy with the one climb I did Tuesday - 358watts for 3 minutes. That is pretty darn good for me and it left my group in the dust. I really need to lose ####### weight if I want to get fast.

By the end of the 2nd week, you should be feeling a big difference. You'll probably go to the opposite end of the spectrum and get really anxious about not running enough <insert taper madness here>. Dead or heavy legs is pretty common also. Trust the training...
Right now I have to physically count back the number of days since my last swim, since it continually seems like I haven't been in the pool in forever. Despite the fact it was yesterday.
 
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5 miles today. 1 mile warmup 3 ST pace & 1 mile cool down

8:26

6:38

6:43

6:16 (finally got the wind at my back)

8:44

:naptime:

 
Been reading the posts about consuming alcohol the night before an event. Some things you should know I found on the net that make sense...

1. Before you chug down that beer (or three) the night before your training run, here's something you should know: alcohol is metabolized by the liver. While that process is going on, the liver is not making as much glycogen, which you need for fuel to swim, bike, or run. That can have an effect on your endurance.

2. Studies have shown that one beer will lower your heat tolerance for up to 3 days.

It's an individual choice but when weighing out the pros and cons of adult beverages the night before an event considering the weeks / months of training invested, I'm going to hold off until after the event. :nerd:

 
As I'm about 9 (or is 10?) days from the marathon, I did an easy 4 on Tuesday, 8 on Wednesday and a tougher than it should be 5K today. rest day tomorrow and then hit my last long run - 9 miles. Next week is lots of rest, water, and relaxation with a couple easy runs in the middle.

My confidence is all over the place on this race. Most say trust the training, but my training has been pretty sporadic.

Once the weather forecast is a bit closer, I'll throw out an initial time goal.

Grue -- careful this weekend and have fun.

Good luck to any other racers we have out there.

 
'BassNBrew said:
Been reading the posts about consuming alcohol the night before an event. Some things you should know I found on the net that make sense...1. Before you chug down that beer (or three) the night before your training run, here's something you should know: alcohol is metabolized by the liver. While that process is going on, the liver is not making as much glycogen, which you need for fuel to swim, bike, or run. That can have an effect on your endurance.2. Studies have shown that one beer will lower your heat tolerance for up to 3 days.It's an individual choice but when weighing out the pros and cons of adult beverages the night before an event considering the weeks / months of training invested, I'm going to hold off until after the event. :nerd:
I don't understand a single thing you just said.
 
'BassNBrew said:
Been reading the posts about consuming alcohol the night before an event. Some things you should know I found on the net that make sense...1. Before you chug down that beer (or three) the night before your training run, here's something you should know: alcohol is metabolized by the liver. While that process is going on, the liver is not making as much glycogen, which you need for fuel to swim, bike, or run. That can have an effect on your endurance.2. Studies have shown that one beer will lower your heat tolerance for up to 3 days.It's an individual choice but when weighing out the pros and cons of adult beverages the night before an event considering the weeks / months of training invested, I'm going to hold off until after the event. :nerd:
I don't understand a single thing you just said.
I think he was trying to tell us he has a mangina.
 
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'BassNBrew said:
Been reading the posts about consuming alcohol the night before an event. Some things you should know I found on the net that make sense...1. Before you chug down that beer (or three) the night before your training run, here's something you should know: alcohol is metabolized by the liver. While that process is going on, the liver is not making as much glycogen, which you need for fuel to swim, bike, or run. That can have an effect on your endurance.2. Studies have shown that one beer will lower your heat tolerance for up to 3 days.It's an individual choice but when weighing out the pros and cons of adult beverages the night before an event considering the weeks / months of training invested, I'm going to hold off until after the event. :nerd:
I am pretty sure none of that is true. :banned:
 
I did a Higdon humpback tempo run on the treadmill. I went 6.25 miles.

Each pace was 10 mins in length 10:00 min pace,9:30 pace,9:00 pace, 9:30 pace, 10:00 pace and then cool down for 15 mins.

Right foot is killing me. I just hit the IBU.

I do feel like I am making progress.

Good luck to Grue and all the other racers. Stay hydrated and have fun.

 
So I just started taking up running. I like to hike, but with gas prices and being pretty close (1/2 mile) from a 1.4 mile dirt path around a park I figured taking up running during the week days was a cheaper alternative for my cardio. I'll still be a hiker/backpacker on the weekends so I'll probably never have the time to invest to become much of a runner. Either way, I ran 2 days last week and 3 this week. I was drinking a lot which killed my exercise schedule so I'm planning on running 4 times a week or so probably for short distances mainly. This week was 3 miles Monday, 4 miles Wednesday and only 2.5 miles today (still not running/jogging the whole way but most of it).

Anyway, all that being said are there any good training tips around? I doubt I'll be doing much in the way of races and if I do probably no more than 5 or 10Ks. But I'd like to be in good enough shape to go for a run 45 minutes or an hour without walking. Is the best bet just keep going without much of a plan and try and improve each week until I'm a bit stronger then worry about training ideas?

 
So I just started taking up running. I like to hike, but with gas prices and being pretty close (1/2 mile) from a 1.4 mile dirt path around a park I figured taking up running during the week days was a cheaper alternative for my cardio. I'll still be a hiker/backpacker on the weekends so I'll probably never have the time to invest to become much of a runner. Either way, I ran 2 days last week and 3 this week. I was drinking a lot which killed my exercise schedule so I'm planning on running 4 times a week or so probably for short distances mainly. This week was 3 miles Monday, 4 miles Wednesday and only 2.5 miles today (still not running/jogging the whole way but most of it).Anyway, all that being said are there any good training tips around? I doubt I'll be doing much in the way of races and if I do probably no more than 5 or 10Ks. But I'd like to be in good enough shape to go for a run 45 minutes or an hour without walking. Is the best bet just keep going without much of a plan and try and improve each week until I'm a bit stronger then worry about training ideas?
Id make sure your pace is slow enough that you can easily keep a conversation if you needed to.Build up the mileage slowly where you can run/jog the whole distance you are going for.4 days a week is a nice place to start at those 3-4 mile runs while you build up your strength.As for saying you doubt you will be doing many races...well, there is a long list of things many of us have said we likely would not do. :)But yeah, once you build up that base where you can run that 4 miles 4 times a week...or a bit more and build that base up, then you can start doing other things in there (intervals, fartleks, tempo runs...the fun stuff that hurts but feels great).
 

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