Ran a 10k in June (10 Viewers)

[Ned]

Looking like there's a very good chance Madison is going to get canceled this weekend. This weather is ridiculous.

It bites, but that's the best way to handle it. Refund is a sticky situation...I'd refund the difference between the 1/2 and full price.Laugh out loud at them still giving out finisher medals. I'd saw mine in half.

 

[pigskinliquors]

Looking like there's a very good chance Madison is going to get canceled this weekend. This weather is ridiculous.

Not good for Madison, but we'd LOVE it to cool down that much. SC: :fingerscrossed:

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My update:

After my 24 hour muscle punishment, I just did Ab Ripper after work. I followed that by grilling out with some students and friends, followed by drinking beer in our pool until 10:00, and shooting pool until 1:00 am. I skipped my scheduled ride this morning and will do what I can to sweat out hops and barley after work today on the elliptical and in the pool.

 

[gruecd]

Laugh out loud at them still giving out finisher medals. I'd saw mine in half.

Agreed. I saw people in Green Bay who stopped at Mile 20 and took the shuttles back to the start/finish area. They were wearing medals. Hell, I rarely even wear a shirt from a race that I didn't finish...

 

[2Young2BBald]

Looking like there's a very good chance Madison is going to get canceled this weekend. This weather is ridiculous.

It bites, but that's the best way to handle it. Refund is a sticky situation...I'd refund the difference between the 1/2 and full price.Laugh out loud at them still giving out finisher medals. I'd saw mine in half.

I know you're at least half joking here, but it made me think of something. Medals for Mettle and families of military were the major charities for the 1/2 I ran on Sunday. They gathered a ton of medals on site. I sent several medals to them in the past and would recommend anyone thinking of pitching one look into seeing if they have a place to send or drop them off locally.

 

[tri-man 47]

Looking like there's a very good chance Madison is going to get canceled this weekend. This weather is ridiculous.

It bites, but that's the best way to handle it. Refund is a sticky situation...I'd refund the difference between the 1/2 and full price.Laugh out loud at them still giving out finisher medals. I'd saw mine in half.

Giving out the medals is stupid.This new trend of cancellations could really mess up the race calendar and planning logistics. Why register for an event more than a week in advance and risk losing your money (unless the race fills up, which is pretty rare)?

And: Why not just advance the start time? Tell everyone to get up early and send them off at 5 or 6 a.m. Or really, for a chip-timed race, just say the starting shoot will be open from 5-6 a.m. Have a race announcer rallying the troups as they take off just like they cheer them on at the end ("crossing the start line now, #1234, one of our favorite Clydsdales from Appleton, gruecd!") Or bunch up the runners as they arrive and send off each block that has gathered in 5 minute increments to add some pizazz to the start. The point would be to get everyone on the course earlier so they avoid the worst of the heat. Even hot days aren't bad until the sun gets higher in the sky.

 

[tri-man 47]

Laugh out loud at them still giving out finisher medals. I'd saw mine in half.

Agreed. I saw people in Green Bay who stopped at Mile 20 and took the shuttles back to the start/finish area. They were wearing medals. Hell, I rarely even wear a shirt from a race that I didn't finish...

Having seen enough of your race pics ...fixed.

 

[gruecd]

And: Why not just advance the start time?

Logistical nightmare with street closures, police & fire, volunteers, etc.

 

[comfortably numb]

SUN 3miles went well, trying to keep my splits tight

9:46

9:43

9:55

29:27

Just got back from hot muggy run

9:04

8:59

9:13

27:19

This weather is killing you distance guys.

Stay safe man.

Oh buzzkill people suck!

buzzkill people: "oh you run now"

me: "yea"

buzzkill people: "be careful, that stuff will destroy your knees in no time"

 

[tri-man 47]

And: Why not just advance the start time?

Logistical nightmare with street closures, police & fire, volunteers, etc.

Well, to a degree. But I'd prefer a logistical challenge of an advanced start (planned a day or even two in advance) to the true nightmare of a cancellation, which is a lose-lose for everybody. Triathlons commonly have rolling starts; large road races have scheduled corrals. It wouldn't be an insurmountable challenge to factor in some flexibility when the conditions appear to be unfavorable. I understand the need for caution, but this new trend in race cancelletions could really damage the summer racing schedule.

 

[Sean]

Oh buzzkill people suck!buzzkill people: "oh you run now"me: "yea"buzzkill people: "be careful, that stuff will destroy your knees in no time"

some jerk at the office just said the same thing to me. of course this guy is a good 50+ pounds overweight.didn't get a run in yesterday (still working on putting up new bball hoop). planning on some speed work later today.

 

[pigskinliquors]

This marathon might increase in popularity

FWIW: I just received today's Cross Fit WOD =

= Dirty thirty

.5 mile run or 1 mile bike (on a trainer)

30 KB swings

.5 or 1 mile

30 squats

.5 or 1 mile

30 rows

.5 or 1 mile

All timed. I think I might skip either my swim or elliptical (not both) and do this one. Giddy'up.

 

[2Young2BBald]

("crossing the start line now, #1234, one of our favorite Clydsdales from Appleton, gruecd!")

You catch that he is not just a Clyde, but now a member of Tall Man Running, restricted to those 6'4" and up? I am this close to calling the ACLU.

 

[pigskinliquors]

("crossing the start line now, #1234, one of our favorite Clydsdales from Appleton, gruecd!")

You catch that he is not just a Clyde, but now a member of Tall Man Running, restricted to those 6'4" and up? I am this close to calling the ACLU.

 

[Juxtatarot]

This new trend of cancellations could really mess up the race calendar and planning logistics. Why register for an event more than a week in advance and risk losing your money (unless the race fills up, which is pretty rare)?

How new is the trend? I remember hearing about races that cancelled several hours after the start, but never like what happened in Green Bay. I also think races need to do a much better job communicating with runners ahead of time what situations (WBGT, etc.) will result in cancellation.

 

[Ned]

("crossing the start line now, #1234, one of our favorite Clydsdales from Appleton, gruecd!")

You catch that he is not just a Clyde, but now a member of Tall Man Running, restricted to those 6'4" and up? I am this close to calling the ACLU.

O M F G

 

[2Young2BBald]

("crossing the start line now, #1234, one of our favorite Clydsdales from Appleton, gruecd!")

You catch that he is not just a Clyde, but now a member of Tall Man Running, restricted to those 6'4" and up? I am this close to calling the ACLU.

Man, that last guy can move.

 

[gruecd]

("crossing the start line now, #1234, one of our favorite Clydsdales from Appleton, gruecd!")

You catch that he is not just a Clyde, but now a member of Tall Man Running, restricted to those 6'4" and up? I am this close to calling the ACLU.

 

[gruecd]

some jerk at the office just said the same thing to me. of course this guy is a good 50+ pounds overweight.

It's always the fat/lazy people who say stupid #### like this. Cracks me up.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Oh buzzkill people suck!buzzkill people: "oh you run now"me: "yea"buzzkill people: "be careful, that stuff will destroy your knees in no time"

some jerk at the office just said the same thing to me. of course this guy is a good 50+ pounds overweight.didn't get a run in yesterday (still working on putting up new bball hoop). planning on some speed work later today.

I just say something like, "Actually, if you are careful with your runs, you can strengthen the muscles around your knees to better protect them." Works every time.

 

[tri-man 47]

This new trend of cancellations could really mess up the race calendar and planning logistics. Why register for an event more than a week in advance and risk losing your money (unless the race fills up, which is pretty rare)?

How new is the trend? I remember hearing about races that cancelled several hours after the start, but never like what happened in Green Bay. I also think races need to do a much better job communicating with runners ahead of time what situations (WBGT, etc.) will result in cancellation.

Maybe it's just the back to back situation of hearing about Boston's offer to participants to postpone and then the Wisconsin situations (GB and potentially Madison). But I could see the trend growing - once a few races start to use a measurement scale for cancellation, other race directors could get worried about being the one who doesn't cancel on a bad day, resulting in something serious. Time will tell as this summer goes on.

 

[pigskinliquors]

This new trend of cancellations could really mess up the race calendar and planning logistics. Why register for an event more than a week in advance and risk losing your money (unless the race fills up, which is pretty rare)?

How new is the trend? I remember hearing about races that cancelled several hours after the start, but never like what happened in Green Bay. I also think races need to do a much better job communicating with runners ahead of time what situations (WBGT, etc.) will result in cancellation.

Maybe it's just the back to back situation of hearing about Boston's offer to participants to postpone and then the Wisconsin situations (GB and potentially Madison). But I could see the trend growing - once a few races start to use a measurement scale for cancellation, other race directors could get worried about being the one who doesn't cancel on a bad day, resulting in something serious. Time will tell as this summer goes on.

Any races cancelled that Grue hasn't signed up for? I'm just guessing it might be a trend

 

[gruecd]

This new trend of cancellations could really mess up the race calendar and planning logistics. Why register for an event more than a week in advance and risk losing your money (unless the race fills up, which is pretty rare)?

How new is the trend? I remember hearing about races that cancelled several hours after the start, but never like what happened in Green Bay. I also think races need to do a much better job communicating with runners ahead of time what situations (WBGT, etc.) will result in cancellation.

Maybe it's just the back to back situation of hearing about Boston's offer to participants to postpone and then the Wisconsin situations (GB and potentially Madison). But I could see the trend growing - once a few races start to use a measurement scale for cancellation, other race directors could get worried about being the one who doesn't cancel on a bad day, resulting in something serious. Time will tell as this summer goes on.

Any races cancelled that Grue hasn't signed up for? I'm just guessing it might be a trend

Tell me about it. Looking like 70° and high humidity for my 8K on Monday morning, too. Unreal.Between the weather and my jacked-up hips/lower back, I'm really getting crabby. I need to get back to regular yoga and core workouts, stat.

 

[Ned]

While I was out slogging thru a muggy recovery run for lunch, I was thinking about all the chatter about the heat. I suddenly thought about

and all was right with the world. I was surprised I was able to keep my HR relatively in check, given the crummy weather. 9:54/137

 

[Ned]

This new trend of cancellations could really mess up the race calendar and planning logistics. Why register for an event more than a week in advance and risk losing your money (unless the race fills up, which is pretty rare)?

How new is the trend? I remember hearing about races that cancelled several hours after the start, but never like what happened in Green Bay. I also think races need to do a much better job communicating with runners ahead of time what situations (WBGT, etc.) will result in cancellation.

Maybe it's just the back to back situation of hearing about Boston's offer to participants to postpone and then the Wisconsin situations (GB and potentially Madison). But I could see the trend growing - once a few races start to use a measurement scale for cancellation, other race directors could get worried about being the one who doesn't cancel on a bad day, resulting in something serious. Time will tell as this summer goes on.

Any races cancelled that Grue hasn't signed up for? I'm just guessing it might be a trend

Tell me about it. Looking like 70° and high humidity for my 8K on Monday morning, too. Unreal.Between the weather and my jacked-up hips/lower back, I'm really getting crabby. I need to get back to regular yoga and core workouts, stat.

I feel your pain with the hips, man. I strongly recommend finding a certified in Muscle Activation Technique. Every time I have hip pain, my MT will go thru the MAT tests and always finds muscle or two that isn't firing on all cylinders.

 

[prosopis]

I did 4x400 today. I did the 400s at 8:00 mile pace. I rested at 12:00 mile pace for a half mile in between. Did one mile cool down. All of this was done on the treadmill. It was 110 out with strong winds today

 

[sho nuff]

Nothing to report here this week.

After a good recovery run on the weekend...have dealt with some stomach issues and a very tight calf and tweaked knee (thats what I get for playing a bit of soccer with my son). Twisted the knee making a turn on uneven grass and its been a little sore ever since.

That and the last week of school for the kids has thrown my schedule off.

Going to get back on it tomorrow as the knee is feeling a bit better tonight (had been hurting just walking down stairs for the past few days...).

 

[Sand]

I just say something like, "Actually, if you are careful with your runs, you can strengthen the muscles around your knees to better protect them." Works every time.

And increase bloodflow, and thicken cartilage. Negative chronic effects don't creep in until you run a great deal.

 

[Sand]

Tell me about it. Looking like 70° and high humidity for my 8K on Monday morning, too. Unreal.Between the weather and my jacked-up hips/lower back, I'm really getting crabby. I need to get back to regular yoga and core workouts, stat.

70F for 30 minutes? You poor thing.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Tell me about it. Looking like 70° and high humidity for my 8K on Monday morning, too. Unreal.Between the weather and my jacked-up hips/lower back, I'm really getting crabby. I need to get back to regular yoga and core workouts, stat.

70F for 30 minutes? You poor thing.

 

[beer 30]

Had a great run this morning, hit some hills that I thought would kick my ### and powered through them. Kept waiting for the monkey to hop on my back and apparently he took the morning off Been working on my breathing and it's really been helping me to focus on that and not the actual run. I'm one of those guys that needs to keep occupied during a run or I start thinking about stuff that makes me not want to run. My times have been improving as well, I've been shooting for a sub 10 min average on the runs and hit it twice this week on my longer runs. What i wouldn't give to be back in flat ### Ohio and running now, hills suck.

 

[gruecd]

Tell me about it. Looking like 70° and high humidity for my 8K on Monday morning, too. Unreal.

Between the weather and my jacked-up hips/lower back, I'm really getting crabby. I need to get back to regular yoga and core workouts, stat.

70F for 30 minutes? You poor thing.

Dude. It'll be at least 31 minutes...

 

[comfortably numb]

While I was out slogging thru a muggy recovery run for lunch, I was thinking about all the chatter about the heat. I suddenly thought about

You know how I know you are white?

 

[Juxtatarot]

Ran a 5 mile recovery run last night for the first time since Green Bay and all the body parts seem to be working OK.

The 10-day forecast came out for that marathon in South Bend on June 2. Low of 54, high of 74, 40% chance of rain in the morning. I also noticed sunrise is 6:12 (the race starts at 6:00). Sounds like that will be OK but I'll wait a few more days to see if things change before registering.

 

[tri-man 47]

beer30 -

Jux - I hope you get to race it!!

 

[2Young2BBald]

Nothing really new, but thought I'd share Hydration Tips from Desi Davila with the scorcher coming this long weekend.

Lately, I've been wondering about the calorie burn data on the Garmin after seeing my projected burn from my recent trail 1/2s. This past weekend's was 1,607 and the one a few weeks prior (on a tougher course, but 40 degrees cooler) was 1,624. That is the approx equivalent of burning 3 Big Macs worth of calories in each race. I don't think I took in that many calories 24 hours before the race. Like Desi mentioned in the link above, you learn through trial and error what works and I seem to have my water and gel plans dialed in for each race. However, is there anything that can be drawn from analyzing the calorie info?

 

[Ned]

Nothing really new, but thought I'd share Hydration Tips from Desi Davila with the scorcher coming this long weekend.

Lately, I've been wondering about the calorie burn data on the Garmin after seeing my projected burn from my recent trail 1/2s. This past weekend's was 1,607 and the one a few weeks prior (on a tougher course, but 40 degrees cooler) was 1,624. That is the approx equivalent of burning 3 Big Macs worth of calories in each race. I don't think I took in that many calories 24 hours before the race. Like Desi mentioned in the link above, you learn through trial and error what works and I seem to have my water and gel plans dialed in for each race. However, is there anything that can be drawn from analyzing the calorie info?

I'm not sure how accurate the calories data really is. My Garmin always had me in a very tight 150-155/mi range. My new motoactv is a bit broader depending on the intensity of the run:5K race = 130/mi

5mi recovery = 110/mi

Which is right? Hell if I know.

 

[pigskinliquors]

This marathon might increase in popularity

FWIW: I just received today's Cross Fit WOD =

= Dirty thirty

.5 mile run or 1 mile bike (on a trainer)

30 KB swings

.5 or 1 mile

30 squats

.5 or 1 mile

30 rows

.5 or 1 mile

All timed. I think I might skip either my swim or elliptical (not both) and do this one. Giddy'up.

I messed up as this wasn't the workout. It was 3 rounds of 30 Kettlebell swings, 30 squats, 30 situps, 30 rows then a half mile run. Rinse and repeat 2 more times. We had 11 of us do the workout for time, and I finished first odium: about :20 ahead of a friend of mine who is 32 and still plays very competitive soccer . It felt AWESOME To "race" without a bike under me. My legs feel great today, though I did postpone my scheduled legs and back workout until tomorrow as I want to make sure I fully recover.

some jerk at the office just said the same thing to me. of course this guy is a good 50+ pounds overweight.

It's always the fat/lazy people who say stupid #### like this. Cracks me up.

Great news Jux!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[eoMMan]

So how hot is too hot to run?

 

[Ned]

So how hot is too hot to run?

That's a loaded question... Depends on:individual's fitness level? an overweight novice won't handle the heat the same as a seasoned marathoner.what they're acclimated to? someone used to running in the 50's won't handle the 80s as well as someone who's trained in the 80's for months.how long is the run? obviously a 3mi run won't be as dangerous as a 20mi run.is the sun out? everyone loves to talk about the temps, but the sun exposure can make or break you.is it humid? humidity is the #1 killer, IMO. Look at that WBGT calc. Humidity accounts for 70% of the calc.is there a breeze? even a light breeze will make a big difference since your skin cools by evaporating the sweat on your skin.

 

[gruecd]

some jerk at the office just said the same thing to me. of course this guy is a good 50+ pounds overweight.

It's always the fat/lazy people who say stupid #### like this. Cracks me up.

Oh, my #######! You gave me a nurple!!

 

[gruecd]

Tell me about it. Looking like 70° and high humidity for my 8K on Monday morning, too. Unreal.

Between the weather and my jacked-up hips/lower back, I'm really getting crabby. I need to get back to regular yoga and core workouts, stat.

70F for 30 minutes? You poor thing.

Come run with me next winter, Sand, when the wind chills are -20°. We'll how how smart you are then....

 

[gruecd]

2nd annual Northeast Wisconsin Beer Mile in 9 days. This is an event my buddies and I started last year. From last year's race:

Anyway, here were the splits: 0:17, 1:26, 0:45, 1:32, 0:41, 1:24, 0:53, and 1:26. I was pretty consistent with the running part, but not so much with the drinking.

My total time of 8:26 was good for 2nd place, but there will be a lot more competition this year. Most importantly, I need to decide on a beer. Minimum 5% ABV, but I'm thinking the less carbonation, the better. Hmmm...

 

[Ned]

2nd annual Northeast Wisconsin Beer Mile in 9 days. This is an event my buddies and I started last year. From last year's race:

Anyway, here were the splits: 0:17, 1:26, 0:45, 1:32, 0:41, 1:24, 0:53, and 1:26. I was pretty consistent with the running part, but not so much with the drinking.

My total time of 8:26 was good for 2nd place, but there will be a lot more competition this year. Most importantly, I need to decide on a beer. Minimum 5% ABV, but I'm thinking the less carbonation, the better. Hmmm...

Is this sponsored by PSL?

The Protein Boost 4-Mile Burst (nut, mile, repeat 3 times - assistance allowed)

Best known effort: rumored to be 53 minutes

 

[gruecd]

Is this sponsored by PSL?

The Protein Boost 4-Mile Burst (nut, mile, repeat 3 times - assistance allowed)Best known effort: rumored to be 53 minutes

LOL at "assistance allowed!" Either way, 53 minutes is an impressive feat!

 

[BassNBrew]

Is this sponsored by PSL?

The Protein Boost 4-Mile Burst (nut, mile, repeat 3 times - assistance allowed)Best known effort: rumored to be 53 minutes

LOL at "assistance allowed!" Either way, 53 minutes is an impressive feat!

At my age 53 hours would make me

 

[Sand]

Tell me about it. Looking like 70° and high humidity for my 8K on Monday morning, too. Unreal.

Between the weather and my jacked-up hips/lower back, I'm really getting crabby. I need to get back to regular yoga and core workouts, stat.

70F for 30 minutes? You poor thing.

Come run with me next winter, Sand, when the wind chills are -20°. We'll how how smart you are then....

I'll be too busy #####ing about the weather when we dip below 40. It should keep me busy for about three days next winter. Thanks for the invite, though!

 

[BassNBrew]

Tell me about it. Looking like 70° and high humidity for my 8K on Monday morning, too. Unreal.

Between the weather and my jacked-up hips/lower back, I'm really getting crabby. I need to get back to regular yoga and core workouts, stat.

70F for 30 minutes? You poor thing.

Come run with me next winter, Sand, when the wind chills are -20°. We'll how how smart you are then....

I'll be too busy #####ing about the weather when we dip below 40. It should keep me busy for about three days next winter. Thanks for the invite, though!

You notice that most of our tris have swim temps above what they shut down northern run events.

 

[prosopis]

So how hot is too hot to run?

I was doing some runs last year in 105. I was not going very fast but I was out there. I am kinda sure I am done doing that.

 

[prosopis]

Tell me about it. Looking like 70° and high humidity for my 8K on Monday morning, too. Unreal.

Between the weather and my jacked-up hips/lower back, I'm really getting crabby. I need to get back to regular yoga and core workouts, stat.

70F for 30 minutes? You poor thing.

Come run with me next winter, Sand, when the wind chills are -20°. We'll how how smart you are then....

I'll be too busy #####ing about the weather when we dip below 40. It should keep me busy for about three days next winter. Thanks for the invite, though!

I am with you. Under 40

 

[Sean]

Set out to do 5 fairly easy today and ended up cutting it short at 4.5 / 8:33. Started getting some pain on outside of right knee (and below knee) around 4 miles. Had pretty much the same issue in my last run again right around mile 4. Iced my knee for a bit and it is still moderately sore. Seems like this is probably my ITB? If so should I scale things back for a bit? Foam roller? Is there a specific kind?