Ran a 10k in June (2 Viewers)

[Prince Myshkin]

ran 3 times in the past 5 days...sunday - 18 degrees, tuesday - 70 degrees, thursday - 22 degrees. craziest temp swing i can remember! from 4 layers of clothing to shorts and a tee to back to 4 layers. strange that i think i enjoyed running in the 20 degree weather more than the 70!i'm also loving the zensah calf sleeves i just got. i really struggle with shin splints, but i can tell a big difference after just a couple of days. i think i remember reading in here that some of you guys use them. anybody have any tips for taking care of them? (how often do you wash them? hand wash or in the machine? ect.)

Yeah...started a thread about that.Cooler last weekend...70s and tornadoes tuesday/wednesday overnight.Snow started last night...and now we have the kids home from school and 19 degrees with the windchill at 6.

yeah i saw it after i had posted in here...we had a snow day here as well. i got my cross-training in this morning sleigh riding with my little girl. i guess you could call it hill repeats!thanks for the replies on the calf sleeves. i was a little worried about them holding up through repeated washings. also, do you guys normally wear them during workouts or afterwards to help with recovery or both? they felt so good on my shins that i almost wore them to teach in yesterday!

 

[2Young2BBald]

thanks for the replies on the calf sleeves. i was a little worried about them holding up through repeated washings. also, do you guys normally wear them during workouts or afterwards to help with recovery or both? they felt so good on my shins that i almost wore them to teach in yesterday!

Mostly just training and racing. I do keep them on as long as I can after I am done doing both as I do think they aid in recovery. I also have a pair of Sugoi socks that I've worn to sleep in after long races and use these for long drives and flights. My brother-in-law has a pair of the 2XU recovery tights and swears by their ability to help him recover faster.

 

[Sand]

Sand - I finally got in.

I see you made it too. I don't remember PSL's name to check. Took about 2.5 hours to get through that abortion of a signup process.

PSL is not in there. I tried to get in touch with Facebook with no luck. I actually got in right away, but it gave an error at the end and I kept retrying. After checking my credit card, though, there were two charges in there - so I was successful one too many times. Hopefully they'll remove one at some point.As soon as I saw that I went to sleep. Had a really early wakeup to get on a flight. And now right back to work - woohoo (<--- sarcasm).

 

[SteelCurtain]

I wash my 2XUs when they start to smell Probably about every week to 10 days. And I have 2 pairs I rotate. Machine wash and stick on top of the washer dry.

 

[sho nuff]

ran 3 times in the past 5 days...sunday - 18 degrees, tuesday - 70 degrees, thursday - 22 degrees. craziest temp swing i can remember! from 4 layers of clothing to shorts and a tee to back to 4 layers. strange that i think i enjoyed running in the 20 degree weather more than the 70!i'm also loving the zensah calf sleeves i just got. i really struggle with shin splints, but i can tell a big difference after just a couple of days. i think i remember reading in here that some of you guys use them. anybody have any tips for taking care of them? (how often do you wash them? hand wash or in the machine? ect.)

Yeah...started a thread about that.Cooler last weekend...70s and tornadoes tuesday/wednesday overnight.Snow started last night...and now we have the kids home from school and 19 degrees with the windchill at 6.

yeah i saw it after i had posted in here...we had a snow day here as well. i got my cross-training in this morning sleigh riding with my little girl. i guess you could call it hill repeats!thanks for the replies on the calf sleeves. i was a little worried about them holding up through repeated washings. also, do you guys normally wear them during workouts or afterwards to help with recovery or both? they felt so good on my shins that i almost wore them to teach in yesterday!

Not enough to sled here...so my cross training was chasing the kids and squats making snowballs.On the sleeves...I wear the zensahs for longer training runs and races.Have a pair of compression socks I wear for recovery.

 

[Ned]

I wash my 2XUs when they start to smell Probably about every week to 10 days. And I have 2 pairs I rotate. Machine wash and stick on top of the washer dry.

Whathcha up to lately, GB?

 

[Hang 10]

I was just at a running clinic with my son the night before last and they covered this. The guy leading the clinic stated that the optimum cadence is around 180 stride (steps) per/min (which seems insane, but I admit I have never counted my strides). His take was that the only way to increase cadence was to do so on the treadmill using a metronome or similar device setting a bpm/cadence to follow at target speed. This has the potential to completely #### with my head so I doubt I'll be trying it.

I am skeptical of any sort of one size fits all rule. My watch tracks cadence and the only time I hit 180 is in 5K-10K type of effort. Anything less and I'm in the mid 160s. I can't fathom trying to keep a 180 cadence on a LR. I would love to see some real science behind why 180 is the magic number for every human being on the planet.

This is a good point because isn't the 180 step for elite runners at their marathon pace? So how would I equal that without max effort?

 

[2Young2BBald]

I was just at a running clinic with my son the night before last and they covered this. The guy leading the clinic stated that the optimum cadence is around 180 stride (steps) per/min (which seems insane, but I admit I have never counted my strides). His take was that the only way to increase cadence was to do so on the treadmill using a metronome or similar device setting a bpm/cadence to follow at target speed. This has the potential to completely #### with my head so I doubt I'll be trying it.

I am skeptical of any sort of one size fits all rule. My watch tracks cadence and the only time I hit 180 is in 5K-10K type of effort. Anything less and I'm in the mid 160s. I can't fathom trying to keep a 180 cadence on a LR. I would love to see some real science behind why 180 is the magic number for every human being on the planet.

This is a good point because isn't the 180 step for elite runners at their marathon pace? So how would I equal that without max effort?

The primary audience for the clinic was HS X-country runners, so the 180 target was an aggressive one, but a parent did question if this was intended for longer distances and this got a yes reply, with a qualifier that many runners, not matter how hard they try to increase cadence cannot get about 165 steps per/minute. One other nugget I liked out of the clinic was their take on stretching. They are of the school that less is best and only stretch what needs to be stretched (and, of course, no cold stretching). The guy tossed out the question of why someone would stretch a warm muscle that feels fine, possibly pulling the muscle fibers further than they want to go. Instead, he advised to do focused stretching on the areas that are still tight after warm up or are problem areas that tend to tighten up during workouts. I am an OCD riddled creature of habit and have probably not altered my stretching routine in 10 years, but am going to give this a shot. Warm up, take stock of where I feel I need to stretch and be done and on my way.

 

[Hang 10]

I was just at a running clinic with my son the night before last and they covered this. The guy leading the clinic stated that the optimum cadence is around 180 stride (steps) per/min (which seems insane, but I admit I have never counted my strides). His take was that the only way to increase cadence was to do so on the treadmill using a metronome or similar device setting a bpm/cadence to follow at target speed. This has the potential to completely #### with my head so I doubt I'll be trying it.

I am skeptical of any sort of one size fits all rule. My watch tracks cadence and the only time I hit 180 is in 5K-10K type of effort. Anything less and I'm in the mid 160s. I can't fathom trying to keep a 180 cadence on a LR. I would love to see some real science behind why 180 is the magic number for every human being on the planet.

This is a good point because isn't the 180 step for elite runners at their marathon pace? So how would I equal that without max effort?

The primary audience for the clinic was HS X-country runners, so the 180 target was an aggressive one, but a parent did question if this was intended for longer distances and this got a yes reply, with a qualifier that many runners, not matter how hard they try to increase cadence cannot get about 165 steps per/minute. One other nugget I liked out of the clinic was their take on stretching. They are of the school that less is best and only stretch what needs to be stretched (and, of course, no cold stretching). The guy tossed out the question of why someone would stretch a warm muscle that feels fine, possibly pulling the muscle fibers further than they want to go. Instead, he advised to do focused stretching on the areas that are still tight after warm up or are problem areas that tend to tighten up during workouts. I am an OCD riddled creature of habit and have probably not altered my stretching routine in 10 years, but am going to give this a shot. Warm up, take stock of where I feel I need to stretch and be done and on my way.

That's a good point about the stretching. What is the point of stretching loosened muscles? I like the idea of just hitting the problem areas on an as needed basis.

 

[BassNBrew]

Sand - I finally got in.

I see you made it too. I don't remember PSL's name to check. Took about 2.5 hours to get through that abortion of a signup process.

PSL is not in there. I tried to get in touch with Facebook with no luck. I actually got in right away, but it gave an error at the end and I kept retrying. After checking my credit card, though, there were two charges in there - so I was successful one too many times. Hopefully they'll remove one at some point.As soon as I saw that I went to sleep. Had a really early wakeup to get on a flight. And now right back to work - woohoo (<--- sarcasm).

He can always ride bandit.I'd signed up asLast Name - StinksFirst Name - RacesonlineIt was posted that way for a bit, but they have since editted it.

 

[Ned]

Sand - I finally got in.

I see you made it too. I don't remember PSL's name to check. Took about 2.5 hours to get through that abortion of a signup process.

PSL is not in there. I tried to get in touch with Facebook with no luck. I actually got in right away, but it gave an error at the end and I kept retrying. After checking my credit card, though, there were two charges in there - so I was successful one too many times. Hopefully they'll remove one at some point.As soon as I saw that I went to sleep. Had a really early wakeup to get on a flight. And now right back to work - woohoo (<--- sarcasm).

He can always ride bandit.I'd signed up asLast Name - StinksFirst Name - RacesonlineIt was posted that way for a bit, but they have since editted it.

You're a nut.

 

[MAC_32]

Battery seems recharged. Been running two to three times per week. Much stronger than I was six weeks ago. Cardio has taken a modest hit but should be able to get it back quick. Thinking about taking up trail races. Tips?

 

[Sand]

Battery seems recharged. Been running two to three times per week. Much stronger than I was six weeks ago. Cardio has taken a modest hit but should be able to get it back quick. Thinking about taking up trail races. Tips?

Watch where you step?

 

[2Young2BBald]

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Thinking about taking up trail races. Tips?

Lots, here are a few off the top of my head:

Don't just trail race, trail train.

Trail shoes make a HUGE difference (big Brooks Cascadia fan)

Think about how to fall before you fall (as it will happen). Tuck your head, shoulder roll, etc.

Do watch the Garmin except to check distance. Your pace will be all over the place and in no way relative to your pavement pace.

There is a code of sorts to trail racing. Keep to your right except to pass type stuff. If you need to pass, "on your left" lets the runner ahead of you know you are coming and should be ready for the pass.

If you can, point out hazards to the racer behind you. It'll keep them from falling into the back of you taking you out. I typically just say "step" or "rocks", on work queues.

Maintain some distance behind the runner in front of you to spot hazards.

Bloody Marys are extra good after trail races

I never trail run with music. In races it can hear who is coming and while training it can allow the mtn bikers know they are there.

 

[Ned]

Thinking about taking up trail races. Tips?

Lots, here are a few off the top of my headon't just trail race, trail train.Trail shoes make a HUGE difference (big Brooks Cascadia fan)Think about how to fall before you fall (as it will happen). Tuck your head, shoulder roll, etc.Do watch the Garmin except to check distance. Your pace will be all over the place and in no way relative to your pavement pace.There is a code of sorts to trail racing. Keep to your right except to pass type stuff. If you need to pass, "on your left" lets the runner ahead of you know you are coming and should be ready for the pass.If you can, point out hazards to the racer behind you. It'll keep them from falling into the back of you taking you out. I typically just say "step" or "rocks", on work queues.Maintain some distance behind the runner in front of you to spot hazards.Bloody Marys are extra good after trail racesI never trail run with music. In races it can hear who is coming and while training it can allow the mtn bikers know they are there.

Nailed it. x10 on the Cascadia's (if you're a neutral shoe).Your pacing is going to be significantly slower if it resembles any sort of 'real' trail. Groomed trail where you can fit a car through it doesn't count. You will lose a lot of time navigating the obstacles - roots, rocks, trees, mud, creek crossings, etc. Big thing that I learned was to really try to flow with the trail. The more you start to force things, the harder the trail gets. You're going to fall. Get used to it.If you're on multi-use trail where mountain bikers are allowed on, keep your head on a swivel. Those suckers can sneak up on you in a heartbeat.

 

[tri-man 47]

Battery seems recharged. Been running two to three times per week. Much stronger than I was six weeks ago. Cardio has taken a modest hit but should be able to get it back quick. Thinking about taking up trail races. Tips?

2Young gave me the early guidance that on single-track trails in particular, your time will be 75-90 seconds per mile slower. Given the unknowns, though, I rely on HR for trail racing. There's no way to know if you're on a good pace ...but your HR will tell you where you're at.--Hard to know which I anticipate more: gruecd "vs" Juxt at Boston, or BnB "vs" Sand at Blood, Sweat and Gears. Heck, I'm spilling all my popcorn just thinking about both races.

 

[beer 302]

Good week of training, not gonna list out all the gory details but in a solid 45 miles. Decided to experiment with the HR GA runs. Tried to keep them under 136 which worked out to about a 10:40 pace for me. Did two 5 mile GA runs using this train of thought and on both the middle two miles HR crept up into 140's so had to drop pace down even slower. It was kinda neat actually, someday when I spring for a real HR monitor I could really get int this kind of training. Thanks for all the tips

Finished the week today with a good 4 mile pace run with a 12 mile warmup Ran the hills for a couple of hours then finished at about a 9:03 clip for the last 4. Good week of training.

Looking forward to the Grue v Juxt showdown, someone should print shirts

 

[tri-man 47]

200 lunges and squats yesterday (in lieu of a -15 degree wind chill run).Today was 25 degrees with a stiff north wind, 2" of snow and continuing flurries ...a good time for 8 miles with 8 x 800 meters at about 7:10/mile pace. But now my butt hurts, and my Yak Trax are breaking apart.

 

[sho nuff]

9 miles in a little snow this morning.About a quarter to a half inch of the fresh stuff on the roads.Was not too slick.Worst part was towards the end of the run it was warming up and it just became slush and then my shoes and feet were soaked and darn cold.

 

[FUBAR]

Stayed out later than we should have last night so I'll postpone my 15 miles this weekend until tomorrow. (We got the day off

Instead ran 6 x 1/2 mile intervals. (1/2 fast, 1/2 rest)

Warm-up: 1/2 mile, 3:58

1: 3:12, 4:10

2: 3:05, 4:10

3: 3:17, 4:15

4: 3:21, 4:27

5: 3:17, 4:38

6: 3:09, 4:11

Cool-down: 1/2 mile, 4:02

 

[sho nuff]

Pulled a 4 mile recovery this morning.Partially because I just could not sleep and a little anticipation of what I might eat and drink later today.

 

[BassNBrew]

Inside of the left need is not good. Feels like itb but on the opposite side of the knee. Came all of sudden at mile 7 of a 10 miler yesterday. Ice didn't help. Any suggestions.

 

[gruecd]

Got the 17 done yesterday. It was cold (like 10° with sub-zero wind chill), and the roads/sidewalks were still mostly snow-covered from the 1/2-inch we got overnight. Footing sucked, so my hips got super sore, and it was slow, but it's done. Week in review:

M - 12 GA (8:07/mile)

T - 11 GA (8:01/mile)

W - 5 not-really-recovery in a snowstorm (9:03/mile)

T - 9 with 4 tempo on the TM (tempo 6:40/mile, overall 7:34/mile)

F - 5 recovery on the TM (8:24/mile)

S - 17 LR (8:37/mile)

Total for Pfitz Week 2: 59 miles

Next week I've got 62 miles on tap. No speed work except for 10 miles at MP during my 17-mile long run. There's a relatively inexpensive 15K in Green Bay on Saturday, so as long as the roads are clear, I think I'm gonna do 2 or 3 miles beforehand, run the race at MP, and then keep going for another 5-6 miles afterwards. My MP should be good enough to win the Clydesdale division, so I'll pick up some cheap hardware in the process.

 

[Sand]

Inside of the left need is not good. Feels like itb but on the opposite side of the knee. Came all of sudden at mile 7 of a 10 miler yesterday. Ice didn't help. Any suggestions.

MCL strain? Hard to know without knowing exactly where the pain is. I believe your hamstring wraps around in that area, as well. I've strained a lower hamstring and had pains in that general area.

 

[beer 302]

Inside of the left need is not good. Feels like itb but on the opposite side of the knee. Came all of sudden at mile 7 of a 10 miler yesterday. Ice didn't help. Any suggestions.

Pes Anserinus?http://www.ndortho.com/Pt_Advisor-WEB/Pes_Bursitis.pdfI've been dealing with what I think is the above but it hasn't hampered my running, actually feels better when you run. My pain occurs when I sit for a while and get up, immediate sharp pain in the tendon area on the inside of my knee. No pun intended, but rub it out. Breaking up the scar tissue that forms seems to help as well as ice after a run

 

[spreagle]

I was just at a running clinic with my son the night before last and they covered this. The guy leading the clinic stated that the optimum cadence is around 180 stride (steps) per/min (which seems insane, but I admit I have never counted my strides). His take was that the only way to increase cadence was to do so on the treadmill using a metronome or similar device setting a bpm/cadence to follow at target speed. This has the potential to completely #### with my head so I doubt I'll be trying it.

I am skeptical of any sort of one size fits all rule. My watch tracks cadence and the only time I hit 180 is in 5K-10K type of effort. Anything less and I'm in the mid 160s. I can't fathom trying to keep a 180 cadence on a LR. I would love to see some real science behind why 180 is the magic number for every human being on the planet.

This is a good point because isn't the 180 step for elite runners at their marathon pace? So how would I equal that without max effort?

I remember hearing about the 180 stride a few years ago, and rather than use a metronome or watch I think the bass of certain songs are around 180. Eminem "Lose Yourself" comes to mind. Have your foot fall on every beat and you're at 180. The primary audience for the clinic was HS X-country runners, so the 180 target was an aggressive one, but a parent did question if this was intended for longer distances and this got a yes reply, with a qualifier that many runners, not matter how hard they try to increase cadence cannot get about 165 steps per/minute. One other nugget I liked out of the clinic was their take on stretching. They are of the school that less is best and only stretch what needs to be stretched (and, of course, no cold stretching). The guy tossed out the question of why someone would stretch a warm muscle that feels fine, possibly pulling the muscle fibers further than they want to go. Instead, he advised to do focused stretching on the areas that are still tight after warm up or are problem areas that tend to tighten up during workouts. I am an OCD riddled creature of habit and have probably not altered my stretching routine in 10 years, but am going to give this a shot. Warm up, take stock of where I feel I need to stretch and be done and on my way.

 

[spreagle]

I was just at a running clinic with my son the night before last and they covered this. The guy leading the clinic stated that the optimum cadence is around 180 stride (steps) per/min (which seems insane, but I admit I have never counted my strides). His take was that the only way to increase cadence was to do so on the treadmill using a metronome or similar device setting a bpm/cadence to follow at target speed. This has the potential to completely #### with my head so I doubt I'll be trying it.

I am skeptical of any sort of one size fits all rule. My watch tracks cadence and the only time I hit 180 is in 5K-10K type of effort. Anything less and I'm in the mid 160s. I can't fathom trying to keep a 180 cadence on a LR. I would love to see some real science behind why 180 is the magic number for every human being on the planet.

This is a good point because isn't the 180 step for elite runners at their marathon pace? So how would I equal that without max effort?

The primary audience for the clinic was HS X-country runners, so the 180 target was an aggressive one, but a parent did question if this was intended for longer distances and this got a yes reply, with a qualifier that many runners, not matter how hard they try to increase cadence cannot get about 165 steps per/minute. One other nugget I liked out of the clinic was their take on stretching. They are of the school that less is best and only stretch what needs to be stretched (and, of course, no cold stretching). The guy tossed out the question of why someone would stretch a warm muscle that feels fine, possibly pulling the muscle fibers further than they want to go. Instead, he advised to do focused stretching on the areas that are still tight after warm up or are problem areas that tend to tighten up during workouts. I am an OCD riddled creature of habit and have probably not altered my stretching routine in 10 years, but am going to give this a shot. Warm up, take stock of where I feel I need to stretch and be done and on my way.

I remember hearing about the 180 stride a few years ago, and rather than use a metronome or watch I think the bass of certain songs are around 180. Eminem "Lose Yourself" comes to mind. Have your foot fall on every beat and you're at 180.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Training Report - Week 8

Tues 6 recovery miles in a.m. 8:04/136. Too fast but it was nearing 60 degrees at 6 a.m. so I got a little carried away. Also, 4 recovery miles in the rain in the p.m. 8:27/125.

Wed 14 miles, 7:49/135. Enjoyable run although I had to stick to the well salted streets since it was lightly snowing.

Thurs 5 recovery miles. On treadmill. Probably 8:40ish pace.

Fri 11 w/ 6 at LTish pace. Treadmill. 2 1/2 up and 2 1/2 down, in middle miles of: 6:36, 6:31, 6:31, 6:31, 6:27 and 6:22. Heart rate stayed under 170.

Sat 6 recovery. In the cold and snow. 8:15/125.

Sun 20 treadmill miles. Eased into things for the first 5.5 miles, then ran at 8:00 the rest of the way. I've been running long runs faster than this but I've been nursing some nagging injuries and didn't want to be aggressive at all this time, particularly on the treadmill.

Total of 66 miles for the week. It seemed like an easy week, probably because there were 3 days of recovery runs instead of the usual 2.

 

[tri-man 47]

From a few FB posts, I'm one of a handful doing double digit miles this a.m. - 10 easy miles for me. gruecd and Wraith also slugging out cold, snowy midwest runs, while Hang 10 cruises to the Virginia shore and back, and SFDuck tromps around lovely SF. :sigh:

 

[BassNBrew]

Inside of the left need is not good. Feels like itb but on the opposite side of the knee. Came all of sudden at mile 7 of a 10 miler yesterday. Ice didn't help. Any suggestions.

MCL strain? Hard to know without knowing exactly where the pain is. I believe your hamstring wraps around in that area, as well. I've strained a lower hamstring and had pains in that general area.

Right on the boney part of the knew 90 degrees front the front.Went to the gym today - squats, leg ext, hammy curls, calf raises...not an ounce of pain. Let the leg hang free and swing backwards and it feels like someone is taking a hammer to it. Did a couple of minutes on the stair mill and elliptical with no play. I can feel it when I walk.

 

[pigskinliquors]

Hi All! Sorry I've been a stranger. Life has been crazy busy (all good), and I needed to get rid of some diversions. I'm still busy, but can't stay away. I miss you guys I have zero chance of catching up, but just looking at this page, I already see where Gru is tearing it up, Tri is having a long run, BnB made me laugh, Ned discussed his HR, Jux let me know his weekly output, Furley made an appearance (I've been gone too long), Sand made me want to purchase an item I've never heard of, and people are #####ing about cold weather in the winter. I might not have missed too much The below got me giddy just thinking about it

Hard to know which I anticipate more: gruecd "vs" Juxt at Boston, or BnB "vs" Sand at Blood, Sweat and Gears. Heck, I'm spilling all my popcorn just thinking about both races.

All's good on my end. I'm almost through a full year on P90x, and have been throwing in running/biking/elliptical where I can. I'm certainly in a hell of a lot better shape (physically, mentally and emotionally) at this time this year than I was last year. I always weigh in the day after the Super Bowl, and promise that, that day will be my heaviest of the year. I easily made it 52 weeks without hitting last year's high, and this year's will be much more difficult. I hope everyone has been well, and that you all are kicking ### with your training. I promise to check in here more often, and to try to pull my weight. Happy gorging to everyone today/tonight!

 

[Juxtatarot]

Hi All! Sorry I've been a stranger. Life has been crazy busy (all good), and I needed to get rid of some diversions. I'm still busy, but can't stay away. I miss you guys I have zero chance of catching up, but just looking at this page, I already see where Gru is tearing it up, Tri is having a long run, BnB made me laugh, Ned discussed his HR, Jux let me know his weekly output, Furley made an appearance (I've been gone too long), Sand made me want to purchase an item I've never heard of, and people are #####ing about cold weather in the winter. I might not have missed too much The below got me giddy just thinking about it

Hard to know which I anticipate more: gruecd "vs" Juxt at Boston, or BnB "vs" Sand at Blood, Sweat and Gears. Heck, I'm spilling all my popcorn just thinking about both races.

All's good on my end. I'm almost through a full year on P90x, and have been throwing in running/biking/elliptical where I can. I'm certainly in a hell of a lot better shape (physically, mentally and emotionally) at this time this year than I was last year. I always weigh in the day after the Super Bowl, and promise that, that day will be my heaviest of the year. I easily made it 52 weeks without hitting last year's high, and this year's will be much more difficult. I hope everyone has been well, and that you all are kicking ### with your training. I promise to check in here more often, and to try to pull my weight. Happy gorging to everyone today/tonight!

Welcome back!

 

[gruecd]

All's good on my end. I'm almost through a full year on P90x, and have been throwing in running/biking/elliptical where I can. I'm certainly in a hell of a lot better shape (physically, mentally and emotionally) at this time this year than I was last year.

Good to hear, my friend. Don't be a stranger!

 

[Sand]

I have zero chance of catching up, but just looking at this page, I already see where Gru is tearing it up, Tri is having a long run, BnB made me laugh, Ned discussed his HR, Jux let me know his weekly output, Furley made an appearance (I've been gone too long), Sand made me want to purchase an item I've never heard of, and people are #####ing about cold weather in the winter. I might not have missed too much

Yo! Glad you are doing well. And yes, you really do need a shoe dryer. ----Last month clocked in at 32 hour of work - 300 miles biked, 10k swum, and 85 miles run. That is the biggest run total in well over a year. Not getting injured really helps things!Today was a solo 34 mile ride. 15-20mph winds, and I swear the whole thing was against the wind. Power output was excellent - set new power record for 1:30-2:00 at 200-210 watts. The terrain around here is so broken it doesn't lend itself to high power for a long time (usually very high power for 5-15 minute increments and then a downhill break). For some reason the legs were working well today. Nice fun ride except for that one ##### of a hill in the middle - parts of that thing hit 20+%.

 

[sho nuff]

Welcome back PSL.

 

[beer 302]

Feel sick. Put in a 4 mile jog this morning, headed down to the gym and while switching around some weights on the bench I hyperextended my left calf. Felt a pop and then immediate pain. Can hardly walk now. Hurts the worst when you are on the ball of your foot pushing off or when the calf is fully extended.I'm no doc but this feels pretty bad. Gotta think the HM I've been training for is in serious jeopardy unless this thing heals up quick. HM is on March 9th. Just feel like throwing up.

 

[Ned]

All's good on my end. I'm almost through a full year on P90x, and have been throwing in running/biking/elliptical where I can. I'm certainly in a hell of a lot better shape (physically, mentally and emotionally) at this time this year than I was last year. I always weigh in the day after the Super Bowl, and promise that, that day will be my heaviest of the year. I easily made it 52 weeks without hitting last year's high, and this year's will be much more difficult.

I hope everyone has been well, and that you all are kicking ### with your training. I promise to check in here more often, and to try to pull my weight. Happy gorging to everyone today/tonight!

Glad to see you pop in. @ the bolded.

 

[Ned]

Feel sick. Put in a 4 mile jog this morning, headed down to the gym and while switching around some weights on the bench I hyperextended my left calf. Felt a pop and then immediate pain. Can hardly walk now. Hurts the worst when you are on the ball of your foot pushing off or when the calf is fully extended.I'm no doc but this feels pretty bad. Gotta think the HM I've been training for is in serious jeopardy unless this thing heals up quick. HM is on March 9th. Just feel like throwing up.

I'd go see a doc ASAP. Calves can be pretty finicky. When in doubt, keep resting it.

 

[Ned]

Back into 6 days/week and I can tell my body is responding to it already. I'm convinced my body loves the higher volume.

Tue (8mi w/ 4LT) - Already posted. 7:18/175. Felt great.

Wed (8mi MLR) - Continuing to work in as many hills as I can. Very windy and ran this too hard. 9:11/148

Thu (5mi recovery) - Still very windy. It affects me a lot. 9:55/140

Fri (9mi MLR) - Short on time so I cut this to 7mi. Very cold/windy and wasn't into it at all. 9:18/150

Sat (5mi recovery) - Felt pretty decent. 10:01/137

Sun (15mi MLR) - Was going to run trails, but got some snow Saturday night so I stayed on the roads. Should've slowed this one down, but felt really good. Hills were noticeably easier. 9:17/149

48mi total.

 

[sho nuff]

Feel sick. Put in a 4 mile jog this morning, headed down to the gym and while switching around some weights on the bench I hyperextended my left calf. Felt a pop and then immediate pain. Can hardly walk now. Hurts the worst when you are on the ball of your foot pushing off or when the calf is fully extended.I'm no doc but this feels pretty bad. Gotta think the HM I've been training for is in serious jeopardy unless this thing heals up quick. HM is on March 9th. Just feel like throwing up.

I'd go see a doc ASAP. Calves can be pretty finicky. When in doubt, keep resting it.

Hope it does well there beer...but agree with Ned. See a doc and don't do anything stupid trying to get back on it too early. Im sure all of us are guilty of that at some point or another.

 

[Sand]

Feel sick. Put in a 4 mile jog this morning, headed down to the gym and while switching around some weights on the bench I hyperextended my left calf. Felt a pop and then immediate pain. Can hardly walk now. Hurts the worst when you are on the ball of your foot pushing off or when the calf is fully extended.I'm no doc but this feels pretty bad. Gotta think the HM I've been training for is in serious jeopardy unless this thing heals up quick. HM is on March 9th. Just feel like throwing up.

Don't freak out yet. I've done more damage to my calves than any human alive, I think. It could be a gastroc pull/tear (which isn't good). It could also, however, be a plantaris tear. I did this a few years ago and it felt like a mule kicked me in the calf - same type symptoms as what you describe. Hurt like hell for a few days. That is a better outcome as we don't swing in trees anymore; that muscle is useless. May take a bit to heal up but it isn't a massive setback.Head over to a doc and cross your fingers.

 

[gruecd]

Just registered myself and the GF for the BAA 5K on Sunday morning before the Boston Marathon. She's just getting into running, so 9-minute pace will be "racing" for her, and it'll be a nice shakeout run for me. Plus it'll keep me from drinking too much the night before. Win-win.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Feel sick. Put in a 4 mile jog this morning, headed down to the gym and while switching around some weights on the bench I hyperextended my left calf. Felt a pop and then immediate pain. Can hardly walk now. Hurts the worst when you are on the ball of your foot pushing off or when the calf is fully extended.I'm no doc but this feels pretty bad. Gotta think the HM I've been training for is in serious jeopardy unless this thing heals up quick. HM is on March 9th. Just feel like throwing up.

Don't freak out yet.

A lot of injuries seem bad at first but heal remarkably quickly. Remember Prosopsis' ### from a few weeks ago?

 

[Ned]

Just registered myself and the GF for the BAA 5K on Sunday morning before the Boston Marathon. She's just getting into running, so 9-minute pace will be "racing" for her, and it'll be a nice shakeout run for me. Plus it'll keep me from drinking too much the night before. Win-win.

That's pretty cool. Totally envious of you Boston guys.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

USDO for me today, also due to a likely injury. I noticed last summer that I was starting to get mild groin pain during some of my runs, but it was never a big deal so I didn't give it too much thought. Unfortunately it never went away and has been getting worse over the past month or so. Yesterday it flared up much worse than usual during the first mile or so of my ten miler -- think sudden stabs of pain like somebody is squeezing your balls, only not in a good way. The pain went away on its own so I finished my run, but then I was sore most of the day yesterday, and even today I have a mild, dull achiness in my balls. The pain I'm getting is often in the inner, upper thigh, but sometimes, like yesterday and today, it manifests itself as ball-pain. I know that's often a sign of a hernia, but I figure a simple groin pull is more likely. Then again, this is probably how Marshall Faulk's ball cancer started off, god rest his soul. Thoughts on this? I'm thinking of just taking a few days off and seeing how it goes, but I'm kind of concerned that I seem to be developing an injury despite the large majority of my miles being low-intensity.

 

[gruecd]

I know that's often a sign of a hernia

This. See a doc.

 

[Ned]

I know that's often a sign of a hernia

This. See a doc.

Ouch. We're dropping like flies.

 

[beer 302]

I know that's often a sign of a hernia

This. See a doc.

Ouch. We're dropping like flies.

Oh he wins this race, no questions What Grue said too. My old man went through that, had to get cut to get it fixed because he ####ed around so long thinking it would get better and it just got progressively worse.

 

[gruecd]

I know that's often a sign of a hernia

This. See a doc.

Ouch. We're dropping like flies.

My Achilles is close to 100%, so hopefully I can help push the proverbial needle in the other direction a bit. That being said, I'm going to skip the strides on my 9-miler today because my left hamstring is a little tight. I won't even tell you guys how I think that happened....

 

[Sand]

I know that's often a sign of a hernia

This. See a doc.

Ouch. We're dropping like flies.

My Achilles is close to 100%, so hopefully I can help push the proverbial needle in the other direction a bit. That being said, I'm going to skip the strides on my 9-miler today because my left hamstring is a little tight. I won't even tell you guys how I think that happened....

Got in a minivan?