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Ran a 10k in June (5 Viewers)
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Hang 10
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Congratulations!Haha, nice report parasaup.
No racing for me but had an interesting morning. My wife wakes me up at 6 am with a big grin on her face and says "Are you ready?" Gimme 10 seconds and I will be I'm thinkingShe says no are you ready for number 3 then shows me the positive pregnancy test. We just started to kind of try or more like not do anything to stop it so it was a bit of a surprise. So little koby #3 will arrive I guess next Feb or March.
Ran a sweaty 8 miles at 7:13 average late this morning. With a few of the miles at or sub 7. That pace is starting to feel pretty good.
USA Half-Marathon championship trip report - (warning - long/rambling)
Thursday - flew into Minneapolis. Met up with my dad (running the Grandma's full) and we made the 2.5 hr drive to Duluth. Met up with another friend sharing the room with us that's also running the full. We head over to the expo and pick up their packets, then to the elite packet pickup at the host hotel a few blocks away. Nice old lady gave me my packet and then asks if I am picking up expense checks, nope, not fast enough to get those. Ate a ridiculously large meal at red lobster, watched the outdoor track champs on the Internet, then went to bed.
Friday - slept in and then did a 2-mile test run, IT band feels okay but I didn't want to push it much more than that. Head over to the mandatory meeting for the athletes running in the championships and almost walked smack into Meb Keflizighi on my way in. My buddy wastes no time saying hi and got a fist bump from him after he told Meb he was doing the full. I go in the room and sit at the very back row with anther friend, then I notice Katie McGregor and Andrew Carlson are sitting 2 rows in front of me. My view is soon blocked when the entire Hansons-Brooks men's team walk in and sit in the row right in front of me. The meeting was uneventful and nobody has any questions besides Meb and Abdi. I come out after they gave us some sweet shirt/hoody and my buddy informs me that while I was in the meeting he found Sage Canaday (2:16 marathoner / ultra marathon elite) and picked his brains for about half an hour on nutrition/fueling for ultras and gossips about Hansons-Brooks program.
Race day- woke up at 4 to drive to catch the bus for participants in the championship races. I wore my hobo sweatpants and noticed everyone is running dri-fit running pants an windbreakers and feel even more out of place. Before I left I took a look at my trainin log and saw that I had run 54 miles in the 10 weeks since Boston because of my ITBS.. (Shake head). Then I reminded myself that I am just here for the experience and to run as long as my legs would let me and to keep my promise to my physical therapist to drop out when it flares up.
We get dropped off close to the start line about a hour before the race, and got directed to a tent about 200 meters in front of the starting line and completely separated from the people running the regular half. People start heading out of the tent to warmup, but I already decided beforehand I was just going to do some drills/stretches and a couple of strides and save my running legs as much as possible. I finally head out of the tent to drop my gear bag off 15 minutes before the race, and as I am finishing my strides towards the starting line I glance at the runner directly to my left and it was Meb again!
Pretty soon they sang the national anthem, lined us up and we were off. I was running by feel, and pretty soon found myself in last place by a second or so. We hit the first mile in 5:34 and I am feeling pretty good about the pace. Mile 2 was 5:30 and I have reeled in a couple of guys and running in the last pack. I am settling in now, feeling good and wonder how much longer I should run with this group before I start moving up and pick people off. I didn't have to think long as my IT band flared up around 2.6-2.7 miles and when I saw an aid station shortly after I passed 5k (17:12) I dropped out knowing there was no way I was going to run another 10 miles and if I am not going to finish there was no point in causing more damage and setting my recovery time table back.
10 minutes later the women came by and I was joined by a lovely young lady having a similar day. We started chatting on our bus ride to the finish and it turned out she was really good friends with Amy Hastings and told me some pretty awesome stories. More importantly, she's a physical therapist and gave me some really good advice on strengthening my core and injury prevention
Post-race: I head back to the finishline to wait for my buddy and my dad to finish. They had an area set up right next to the finish line with lawn chairs and I got in with my credentials. I got there a couple of minutes before the winner came in (2:11) and watched until my buddy rounded the corner as came in right under 2:44. Then an hour later my dad came in a few minutes under 4 hours, joining the 50-state club.
All in all it was a pretty cool trip. The only thing that would have been better was if I was actually healthy and got a chance to race while in top form. I am definitely fire up now about rehabbing, getting healthy and qualifying for next year's race. I definitely felt out of place and a bit awestruck all weekend, but I want to improve and get to the next level where I won't feel that way as much.
Now I am off to Colorado Springs to look for a new house with my wife. Yippee.
Thursday - flew into Minneapolis. Met up with my dad (running the Grandma's full) and we made the 2.5 hr drive to Duluth. Met up with another friend sharing the room with us that's also running the full. We head over to the expo and pick up their packets, then to the elite packet pickup at the host hotel a few blocks away. Nice old lady gave me my packet and then asks if I am picking up expense checks, nope, not fast enough to get those. Ate a ridiculously large meal at red lobster, watched the outdoor track champs on the Internet, then went to bed.
Friday - slept in and then did a 2-mile test run, IT band feels okay but I didn't want to push it much more than that. Head over to the mandatory meeting for the athletes running in the championships and almost walked smack into Meb Keflizighi on my way in. My buddy wastes no time saying hi and got a fist bump from him after he told Meb he was doing the full. I go in the room and sit at the very back row with anther friend, then I notice Katie McGregor and Andrew Carlson are sitting 2 rows in front of me. My view is soon blocked when the entire Hansons-Brooks men's team walk in and sit in the row right in front of me. The meeting was uneventful and nobody has any questions besides Meb and Abdi. I come out after they gave us some sweet shirt/hoody and my buddy informs me that while I was in the meeting he found Sage Canaday (2:16 marathoner / ultra marathon elite) and picked his brains for about half an hour on nutrition/fueling for ultras and gossips about Hansons-Brooks program.
Race day- woke up at 4 to drive to catch the bus for participants in the championship races. I wore my hobo sweatpants and noticed everyone is running dri-fit running pants an windbreakers and feel even more out of place. Before I left I took a look at my trainin log and saw that I had run 54 miles in the 10 weeks since Boston because of my ITBS.. (Shake head). Then I reminded myself that I am just here for the experience and to run as long as my legs would let me and to keep my promise to my physical therapist to drop out when it flares up.
We get dropped off close to the start line about a hour before the race, and got directed to a tent about 200 meters in front of the starting line and completely separated from the people running the regular half. People start heading out of the tent to warmup, but I already decided beforehand I was just going to do some drills/stretches and a couple of strides and save my running legs as much as possible. I finally head out of the tent to drop my gear bag off 15 minutes before the race, and as I am finishing my strides towards the starting line I glance at the runner directly to my left and it was Meb again!
Pretty soon they sang the national anthem, lined us up and we were off. I was running by feel, and pretty soon found myself in last place by a second or so. We hit the first mile in 5:34 and I am feeling pretty good about the pace. Mile 2 was 5:30 and I have reeled in a couple of guys and running in the last pack. I am settling in now, feeling good and wonder how much longer I should run with this group before I start moving up and pick people off. I didn't have to think long as my IT band flared up around 2.6-2.7 miles and when I saw an aid station shortly after I passed 5k (17:12) I dropped out knowing there was no way I was going to run another 10 miles and if I am not going to finish there was no point in causing more damage and setting my recovery time table back.
10 minutes later the women came by and I was joined by a lovely young lady having a similar day. We started chatting on our bus ride to the finish and it turned out she was really good friends with Amy Hastings and told me some pretty awesome stories. More importantly, she's a physical therapist and gave me some really good advice on strengthening my core and injury prevention
Post-race: I head back to the finishline to wait for my buddy and my dad to finish. They had an area set up right next to the finish line with lawn chairs and I got in with my credentials. I got there a couple of minutes before the winner came in (2:11) and watched until my buddy rounded the corner as came in right under 2:44. Then an hour later my dad came in a few minutes under 4 hours, joining the 50-state club.
All in all it was a pretty cool trip. The only thing that would have been better was if I was actually healthy and got a chance to race while in top form. I am definitely fire up now about rehabbing, getting healthy and qualifying for next year's race. I definitely felt out of place and a bit awestruck all weekend, but I want to improve and get to the next level where I won't feel that way as much.
Now I am off to Colorado Springs to look for a new house with my wife. Yippee.
Prince Myshkin
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Juxtatarot
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Congrats, Koby!
I'm glad your enjoyed your trip, Steve, and seem to be taking your injury in stride (no pun). That says a lot about your character!
I'm glad your enjoyed your trip, Steve, and seem to be taking your injury in stride (no pun). That says a lot about your character!
beer 302
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You ran 24 feet 40 inches? I wouldn't even bother to write up a report on that distance and I'm an attention whuore. Nice job gutting it outparasaurolophus said:
WOO HOO!!! Congratulations koby!!!!!koby925 said:
Steve, I'm with the Prince, can't fathom running at the back of the pack at 5:34. Still gotta be proud you were where you were. Would love to see what you could do in that field healthy. Next year man!
Prince Myshkin
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You bastards and your dang contagious ITBS!!! Cruising along through mile 4 of 10 when I get a little twinge on the outside/back of my left knee. Half a mile later and I can't run without a major limp. Shut it down and walk and the pain goes away. I decide to try to run again, and no pain...for about a quarter mile. Then it's back as bad as ever. Repeat the process again and decide to just walk it on back (of course I'm a couple miles from my truck). I'd just about rather take a beating than have to walk back like that.
Anyway, get back and do some research and it sounds like ITBS to me. Looks like I'll be going back through the thread to check out the recovery/prevention strategies.
Anyway, get back and do some research and it sounds like ITBS to me. Looks like I'll be going back through the thread to check out the recovery/prevention strategies.
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Hang 10
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Hang 10
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Prince Myshkin
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sho nuff
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Congrats....but just because she told you that news does not mean you can't stillkoby925 said:Haha, nice report parasaup.
No racing for me but had an interesting morning. My wife wakes me up at 6 am with a big grin on her face and says "Are you ready?" Gimme 10 seconds and I will be I'm thinking
Ran a sweaty 8 miles at 7:13 average late this morning. With a few of the miles at or sub 7. That pace is starting to feel pretty good.
parasaurolophus
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Nice! Wow that is hot and thick weather.
Congrats Mac. Is that a PR or close? Either way it's solid and sounds like it was done in suboptimal conditions.
Prince I sure hope if you are aggressive about taking a few days off, icing / foam roll / stretch / take antiinflammatories at this poor you can stop it from getting worse.
And thanks for the kind words on my race and current ordeal. It's frustrating because it's by far be worst injury I've had since I started back up in 2007. While I have been trying to stay patient and think long-term, this past weekend has had a tremendous impact on me though. A few years ago I read about a regular Joe who somehow got to run the 5th Avenue mile against the pros in the elite field, and the whole weekend I kept on thinking about how I felt very much the same. It's a cool experience and that's why I shared it, but I also realized there are a lot of guys there who feel very much like I do. More importantly, my training has been in a limbo for awhile and I am now fired up about getting healthy, training smarter, and start going after faster times so I can run again next year.
Prince I sure hope if you are aggressive about taking a few days off, icing / foam roll / stretch / take antiinflammatories at this poor you can stop it from getting worse.
And thanks for the kind words on my race and current ordeal. It's frustrating because it's by far be worst injury I've had since I started back up in 2007. While I have been trying to stay patient and think long-term, this past weekend has had a tremendous impact on me though. A few years ago I read about a regular Joe who somehow got to run the 5th Avenue mile against the pros in the elite field, and the whole weekend I kept on thinking about how I felt very much the same. It's a cool experience and that's why I shared it, but I also realized there are a lot of guys there who feel very much like I do. More importantly, my training has been in a limbo for awhile and I am now fired up about getting healthy, training smarter, and start going after faster times so I can run again next year.
Juxtatarot
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Congrats, Mac! I knew you could do it!
I'll just give a quick race report for my 5 miler. Kind of a meh race.
Mile 1: 6:13/ average HR 153
2: 6:17/165
3: 6:30/166
4: 6:25/166
5: 6:28/170 (Garmin measured an additional .03 taking 10 seconds.)
Overall, 32:03, 37th out of 421 overall and 7th out of 25 in AG.
I didn't know what to expect for this one. I ran a 4 mile tempo run on Tuesday but besides that I don't think I've run at fast paces for longer than 5K since my 10K in late March. I ran that 10K at a faster pace than this one but the weather was much worse today (suck index a tad under 140). I targeted around 32 minutes going in but, in retrospect after reviewing my HR data, I think I could have pushed myself a little harder. (Although this race was my no means easy.)
I'll just give a quick race report for my 5 miler. Kind of a meh race.
Mile 1: 6:13/ average HR 153
2: 6:17/165
3: 6:30/166
4: 6:25/166
5: 6:28/170 (Garmin measured an additional .03 taking 10 seconds.)
Overall, 32:03, 37th out of 421 overall and 7th out of 25 in AG.
I didn't know what to expect for this one. I ran a 4 mile tempo run on Tuesday but besides that I don't think I've run at fast paces for longer than 5K since my 10K in late March. I ran that 10K at a faster pace than this one but the weather was much worse today (suck index a tad under 140). I targeted around 32 minutes going in but, in retrospect after reviewing my HR data, I think I could have pushed myself a little harder. (Although this race was my no means easy.)
gruecd
Footballguy
That, and get going with some hip/glute strengthening exercises. I've been doing yoga 2-3 times/week, and that seems to be helping quite a bit, too. Good luck!
Hang 10
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I guess you weren't kidding when you said I gave you a time to shoot for. I ran 5.03 miles in 32:03 last Saturday.
Juxtatarot
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I have a feeling if we'd run together, we'd both have finished under 32!
I guess you weren't kidding when you said I gave you a time to shoot for. I ran 5.03 miles in 32:03 last Saturday.
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Hang 10
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Not a doubt in my mind.I have a feeling if we'd run together, we'd both have finished under 32!
beer 302
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I think I'd pay to go see a race between some of the guys in this thread. Boston was pretty close with everyone we had running but man t would be cool to see a FBG 5k or something like that. Nice job Juxt!Not a doubt in my mind.I have a feeling if we'd run together, we'd both have finished under 32!
And Mac, holy hell man! Apparently the training works, eh? Great job man!!!
tri-man 47
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Quite a range of race reports! Congrats, MAC and Juxt; SteveC, sorry to hear about the lingering injury, but what an incredible experience. You'll come back stronger.
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Another good training week ...nice to get one of these back-to-back sequences out of the way:
M: 3 miles easy
T: 7 miles, tempo work
W: SRD
Th: 5 miles easy
F: 7 miles, pace work (5 miles at 7:39/mile, 159 HR)
S: 10 miles w/some small hill loops (8:24/mile, 145 HR)
S: 20 miles (8:42/mile, 142 HR)
52 miles with a good mix. The long Sunday runs on tired legs aren't my favorite, but I feel it's good training. I was up early today and out the door by about 5:30 a.m. to beat the hot weather as much as possible and to get the run in before church.
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Another good training week ...nice to get one of these back-to-back sequences out of the way:
M: 3 miles easy
T: 7 miles, tempo work
W: SRD
Th: 5 miles easy
F: 7 miles, pace work (5 miles at 7:39/mile, 159 HR)
S: 10 miles w/some small hill loops (8:24/mile, 145 HR)
S: 20 miles (8:42/mile, 142 HR)
52 miles with a good mix. The long Sunday runs on tired legs aren't my favorite, but I feel it's good training. I was up early today and out the door by about 5:30 a.m. to beat the hot weather as much as possible and to get the run in before church.
edit to correct Saturday data
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Hang 10
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tri-man 47
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I'm hoping to run the Minocqua (WI) marathon on 9/1 as a Boston qualifier. It's a small race mostly on an old rails-to-trails path (gruecd has run it). 3:40 is my AG time, though I expect to need to a 3:35 or even 3:30 due to the demand for 2014. My HM times say it's feasible, and my current pacing + HR data seems to be better than 2011 (when I ran a 3:37).
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Sand
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Trip report:
Headed up to Beech Mountain Friday to hook up with BassNBrew. Managed to get in an hour before the preride. After some introductions BnB's girlfriend drove us up to the top of Beech for a wallop of a descent down into the valley to get our packets. Check out the starting descent here. I got more switchback practice in one ride than in years here. Crazy. I probably should have skipped this due to events during the real ride, but it was loads of fun. Some good long climbs in here, too.
After a nice early night we got up at zero dark thirty. Start time was 7:30 and despite getting there early we ended up near the back of the start of the century. The ride file is here. The goal here was to keep very controlled power output. I did pretty well at that, though the climbs were significantly longer than what I was used to, so HR kept getting pretty high and was difficult to get back down. Made good progress and at 50 miles I was right at 3 hours - I was on track to get in a bit over 6 hours (considering Snake Mountain was coming). Over the last bits of Snake Mountain (15-18%) I started cramping. Walked up the last couple hundred yards and had to take a decent break to let the legs calm down. For the next 40 miles I fought incipient to full blown cramps. Luckily they went away for the last big climb and the two nasty little climbs after, but returned with a vengeance for the last little killer at mile 100. After a break there to let the legs cool off I managed to crawl over the last climb and finish in right at 7 hours total, 6:25 ride time. Both time would have been vastly better without the physical issues. Not the time I wanted, but I did get over the finish line (rubber side down). After seeing more than a couple folks at rest stops with bandages and one guy getting loaded into an ambulance after riding off of Snake Mountain this was a perfectly acceptable result.
It was a spectacular course, though. That area of the country is quite stunning. Images from the ride and post ride here. Great group of guys - had a blast. BnB was a great host and I am indebted for him asking me to come up. BnB, just remember this little race is in my backyard.
Total tally: 131 miles, 11,000ft. of climbing. 5000 calories and just about as many cramps. Good weekend, eh?
Headed up to Beech Mountain Friday to hook up with BassNBrew. Managed to get in an hour before the preride. After some introductions BnB's girlfriend drove us up to the top of Beech for a wallop of a descent down into the valley to get our packets. Check out the starting descent here. I got more switchback practice in one ride than in years here. Crazy. I probably should have skipped this due to events during the real ride, but it was loads of fun. Some good long climbs in here, too.
After a nice early night we got up at zero dark thirty. Start time was 7:30 and despite getting there early we ended up near the back of the start of the century. The ride file is here. The goal here was to keep very controlled power output. I did pretty well at that, though the climbs were significantly longer than what I was used to, so HR kept getting pretty high and was difficult to get back down. Made good progress and at 50 miles I was right at 3 hours - I was on track to get in a bit over 6 hours (considering Snake Mountain was coming). Over the last bits of Snake Mountain (15-18%) I started cramping. Walked up the last couple hundred yards and had to take a decent break to let the legs calm down. For the next 40 miles I fought incipient to full blown cramps. Luckily they went away for the last big climb and the two nasty little climbs after, but returned with a vengeance for the last little killer at mile 100. After a break there to let the legs cool off I managed to crawl over the last climb and finish in right at 7 hours total, 6:25 ride time. Both time would have been vastly better without the physical issues. Not the time I wanted, but I did get over the finish line (rubber side down). After seeing more than a couple folks at rest stops with bandages and one guy getting loaded into an ambulance after riding off of Snake Mountain this was a perfectly acceptable result.
It was a spectacular course, though. That area of the country is quite stunning. Images from the ride and post ride here. Great group of guys - had a blast. BnB was a great host and I am indebted for him asking me to come up. BnB, just remember this little race is in my backyard.
Total tally: 131 miles, 11,000ft. of climbing. 5000 calories and just about as many cramps. Good weekend, eh?
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IvanKaramazov
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koby -- Congrats on your impending #3! I'll echo annyong and say that it seems like the third kid would be a huge step up from the second (we stopped at two). A sedan doesn't cut it at that point, and your house fills up fast. Good luck!
SteveC -- I didn't even realize you were doing this event. That sounds cool as hell. I hope you're healthy for it next year, because I want to read a full write-up of what this kind of race is like.
MAC -- Nice job. We've got one guy running with Meb, and another guy picking up hardware. Great weekend.
Juxt -- Looks like a good race to me, but I'm shocked that sub-6:30 for five miles is only good for 7/25 in your AG. Who the hell were you running against?
tri -- That's a solid week. Best of luck with the BQ attempt, and keep us updated.
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I mentioned a while back that Asics discontinued my old shoe (Gel Evolution) and that I had picked up a pair of Gel Kayanos from a local running store. That was a few weeks back. Today I took my Kayanos out for their first ever test run, a 10-miler near my house. Holy hell is there a difference. My old shoes weighed in at 13.3 ounces according to Asics, whereas these are 10.9. I didn't think I would notice the weight disparity, but these made my old shoes feel like bricks by comparison. It's not like the Kayanos are racing flats or anything close, but now I understand why people go with lighter shoes for races. I'm very pleased with these for now, although I want to get through a full week with them, including some speedwork, before I form any semi-solid conclusions.
SteveC -- I didn't even realize you were doing this event. That sounds cool as hell. I hope you're healthy for it next year, because I want to read a full write-up of what this kind of race is like.
MAC -- Nice job. We've got one guy running with Meb, and another guy picking up hardware. Great weekend.
Juxt -- Looks like a good race to me, but I'm shocked that sub-6:30 for five miles is only good for 7/25 in your AG. Who the hell were you running against?
tri -- That's a solid week. Best of luck with the BQ attempt, and keep us updated.
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I mentioned a while back that Asics discontinued my old shoe (Gel Evolution) and that I had picked up a pair of Gel Kayanos from a local running store. That was a few weeks back. Today I took my Kayanos out for their first ever test run, a 10-miler near my house. Holy hell is there a difference. My old shoes weighed in at 13.3 ounces according to Asics, whereas these are 10.9. I didn't think I would notice the weight disparity, but these made my old shoes feel like bricks by comparison. It's not like the Kayanos are racing flats or anything close, but now I understand why people go with lighter shoes for races. I'm very pleased with these for now, although I want to get through a full week with them, including some speedwork, before I form any semi-solid conclusions.
Sean
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Nice racing everyone!
Got in 9.5 miles yesterday morning which is a new long for me. Felt great. Actually wanted to keep going and hit double digits but had to get back home to get ready for my kids baseball game. Avg 8:40/mi.
Unfortunately my day ended in a pretty crappy way. We were over at a friends house and one of my twins (5 year old) ends up hurting what we thought was his ankle in the trampoline. He was freaking out and it swelled up a little but nothing too bad and we assumed he had at worst sprained his ankle. Woke up this morning and he still wouldn't put any weight on it. Took him over to an urgent care center and it turns out he has a buckle fracture in his tibia! Taking him to the ortho tomorrow. I feel so ####ty about this. Right at the start of summer too. Ugh.
Got in 9.5 miles yesterday morning which is a new long for me. Felt great. Actually wanted to keep going and hit double digits but had to get back home to get ready for my kids baseball game. Avg 8:40/mi.
Unfortunately my day ended in a pretty crappy way. We were over at a friends house and one of my twins (5 year old) ends up hurting what we thought was his ankle in the trampoline. He was freaking out and it swelled up a little but nothing too bad and we assumed he had at worst sprained his ankle. Woke up this morning and he still wouldn't put any weight on it. Took him over to an urgent care center and it turns out he has a buckle fracture in his tibia! Taking him to the ortho tomorrow. I feel so ####ty about this. Right at the start of summer too. Ugh.
IvanKaramazov
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Juxtatarot
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Sand - Sounds like a great event and a fun time! Too bad about the cramps.
Ivan - This race was a Chicago Area Runners Association event which draws in a lot of good runners from the area. It's not the normal mix of runners. Until recently I've trained and raced in Kayanos for at least three years and have been generally pleased. I think you'll like them. My new shoes are apparently 8.8 oz (Mizuno Wave Elixirs) and I certainly notice the lighter weight. You might want to buy an even lighter shoe for racing too, particularly since you're focusing on races 13.1 miles and under.
Ivan - This race was a Chicago Area Runners Association event which draws in a lot of good runners from the area. It's not the normal mix of runners. Until recently I've trained and raced in Kayanos for at least three years and have been generally pleased. I think you'll like them. My new shoes are apparently 8.8 oz (Mizuno Wave Elixirs) and I certainly notice the lighter weight. You might want to buy an even lighter shoe for racing too, particularly since you're focusing on races 13.1 miles and under.
tri-man 47
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Sean - excellent run! Sorry about your boy's injury!
Sand - congrats on getting through a very tough event. That's awesome stuff! I love the pics ...never had the chance to visit that area, but I really want to. So ...which of the other guys is BnB?
Sand - congrats on getting through a very tough event. That's awesome stuff! I love the pics ...never had the chance to visit that area, but I really want to. So ...which of the other guys is BnB?
parasaurolophus
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8 miles today. 85 degrees with a dew point of 71. Felt fine for about 4 miles, then started to drag. Feels good to be back in the AC. This was my longest run of the year so far. Even with the heat, I think the 7 hilly miles I did last saturday in Colorado were tougher. Happy to not have to run in either condition on a regular basis like some of you do.
Sand
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IvanKaramazov
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I've never done it, but I think I've seen this at almost every 5K I've ever done. Not frowned upon at all, except by the guys who get beaten by "running stroller guy." Go for it.
Edit to add that a couple of years ago, some ####### ran 1:40 or something in our local 15.25-mile race pushing a stroller. I don't know that person, but I hate him.
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gruecd
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Most races allow it, but check the rules. And for the love of god, please line up in back...
Juxtatarot
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Mac ran a 5K with a stroller about a month ago. (And at a brisk pace, IIRC.)
I heard this story on a runnin message board awhile back where the hero, a recent college grad who had trained his butt off for the past few months, was having a breakthrough race and on his way to the win in a local 5k and a massive PR when he heard some footsteps closing in as he was within sight of the finishline. The next thing he heard were two 5-6 year old twin brothers yelling "get him daddy get him!!!" followed immediately by a double-stroller zooming by him. It turned out the eventual winner/father of the twins was a former all-American with a sub-14 PR.
The winner of the 2009 Route 66 marathon broke the world record for running a marathon while pushing a stroller - 2:32. He gave the former record holder a fair shot at defending the title, but the former record holder (Michael Wardian - 2:17 marathoner and elite ultra-marathoner) finished 2 minutes behind.
The winner of the 2009 Route 66 marathon broke the world record for running a marathon while pushing a stroller - 2:32. He gave the former record holder a fair shot at defending the title, but the former record holder (Michael Wardian - 2:17 marathoner and elite ultra-marathoner) finished 2 minutes behind.
Juxt, Hang, Tri, and others interested, are you guys all in the Chicago area? I have been looking at shorter races I would like to run over be next year to work on my speed and have had the Shamrock Shuffle near the top of my list. Would be a good one for Juxt/Tri to have their show down, although I would think it should be more about going sub-31 or even sub-30 by that point
beer 302
Footballguy
Been there, done that
Sand - Nice ride in the hills! Holy hell there are some climbs in there! I don't know squat about the bikes but I got the hills & the times and know that's an impressive ride. Nice job man! How'd the old grumpy dude fair, err BnB?
MAC_32
Footballguy
Adult PR, yes. I ran 18:35 three years ago and have been trying to get to 18:30 ever since, it's either been over training, poor weather, just a choke job or a combination of all 3 since. Finally got it. I turned the final corner with about 50 meters left, saw 18:21, and I'm sure an audible "f%&$" was dropped as I laid down the hammer on my beyond dry tank. Stepped on the line as it turned to 18:30 - 18:30.18 to be exact. Passed two in the final 1/4 mile, but the winner was way out of reach. 17 something. Meant to SAND the start, but apparently I didn't, very consistent splits - 5:55, 5:58, 6:05, :32. May have been the right thing given the weather because I may have gassed myself if I went out too fast.
I'm optimistic I can lower that time significantly when the weather cools off this fall. Currently signed up for 5K's Aug 17, Sep 15, and Sep 29 as well as a 10K on Oct 12. We'll see if I need to sign up for another 5K after the Oct 12 race, but hopefully I won't have to if I've already locked down sub 18 in one of the September races. Going to take it easy the 10 days or so, just a couple of runs, then get after the training again later next week.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Varies. Bigger the race the more likely it is to be encouraged to not use or just not at all. Smaller races, see them all the time. I only push my kids in races with < 200. I always start on the very outside so I'm out of people's way as I work to pick up speed. I've noticed others that run a good pace with their stroller do the same thing. The rest start in the back.
koby925
Footballguy
Thanks to all on #3. Why a third? Well, I'm a runner so I guess I'm a glutton for punishment. Especially if we have a third girl.
Sand & BnB, nice race and cool pics
Sean, good job. Sorry to hear about Jr.
Jux, nice race. 5 miles is an odd distance to race if you haven't done it much but looks like you stuck to the goal
MAC - attaboy. Next time I expect a low or sub 18.
Steve, very cool experience. And damn you for running a 17:12 first 5k hurt, undertrained and thinking you were running a Half. I wanted to shoot for sub 17 this year anyway but you gave me more incentive to break my Old Man PR of 17:22 and run at least 17:12 soon.
A 44 year old guy I ran with some in PA (though we were often hurt on opposite schedules) just ran a 4:35 road mile. Cripes. So now I have what seems like a very difficult goal time for my September Road Mile.
Sand & BnB, nice race and cool pics
Sean, good job. Sorry to hear about Jr.
Jux, nice race. 5 miles is an odd distance to race if you haven't done it much but looks like you stuck to the goal
MAC - attaboy. Next time I expect a low or sub 18.
Steve, very cool experience. And damn you for running a 17:12 first 5k hurt, undertrained and thinking you were running a Half. I wanted to shoot for sub 17 this year anyway but you gave me more incentive to break my Old Man PR of 17:22 and run at least 17:12 soon.
A 44 year old guy I ran with some in PA (though we were often hurt on opposite schedules) just ran a 4:35 road mile. Cripes. So now I have what seems like a very difficult goal time for my September Road Mile.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Hang isn't.
I'm not planning anything for next year yet but I'll keep that one in mind.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I think our Chicago friends are moving to Cleveland next summer, but if they don't we will be making a trip to Chicago at some point. If you guys get a 10K or less together let me know,maybe link up the weekend. Saturday preferred to Sunday, my money would be on us getting sauced Sat night.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
On saturday a guy lined up right in front of me wearing a kilt, no shirt on, was flossing his teeth, and he had a stroller. Was disgusting.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
I've not done the Shamrock Shuffle due to the early season timing and the massive crowds. With corporate involvement, this race is like the health clubs in early January ...a lot of people overshooting their pay grade. Like a lot of the city races, the logistics are difficult, though I wouldn't rule it out if that's the one that works for you. In general, Steve, you might want to go to the CARA site and look at their list of races. Those are the most competitive ones around (Juxt's 5 miler was part of that). For you, a CARA race would be an excellent challenge and the best shot of getting some guys who could compete with you. The list varies a bit each year, but you can get a sense of their races (and check prior times). A nice suburban 5K/10K option in October is the Frank Lloyd Wright run in my suburb of Oak Park, which has often been a CARA race, though not this year.
Juxt and I have raced together twice now, and both were no-show downs. Juxt came into those unsure of his top end speed, and he quickly learned at last year's 5 miler that he is, in fact, pretty darn fast! I now encourage him to pick on people his own age.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
If there is a Chicago cornhole race next year, I'll be sure to make it. I think the Shamrock Shuffle is always on a Sunday (April 7 this year) so that wouldn't work out with Mac's preference for a Saturday. It would be nice to get a big group of us together next year for something.
beer 302
Footballguy
Grue's trying to get a crew together for 12/7/13 in Memphis, not sure where that ended up or if it is still alive?
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