worrierking
Footballguy
Wow, Beer. That's just awful. Nothing to say.
My marathon is in doubt. Calf flared up Saturday.
My marathon is in doubt. Calf flared up Saturday.
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Ran a 10k in June (4 Viewers)
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tri-man 47
Footballguy
I'm still on hold for marathon training: Bronchial infection, which is getting better, but still lingering, plus I tweaked my back helping my daughter move yesterday. With a strong base, I'm not stressing it, but I will need to get back in action soon.
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gruecd
Footballguy
I've got a case of good, old-fashioned runner's knee. I'm guessing all of those hours folded into an airplane seat are at least partly to blame. Gonna try to run through it, but we'll see.
I'm still on hold for marathon training: Bronchial infection, which is getting better, but still lingering, plus I tweaked my back helping my daughter move yesterday. With a strong base, I'm not stressing it, but I will need to get back in action soon.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Ran 6 mile treadmill progression tempo* yesterday averaging about 6:30. I'm taking a day off today and will attempt a treadmill 5K at/near max effort tomorrow.
* Had to take a bathroom break half way through.
* Had to take a bathroom break half way through.
Ned
Footballguy
What are you ####### gumby?!pretty muchMan are we all
hit the gym yesterday - rowed 2k, kettlebell work, core, and deep squats (where you ### hits your heels) but could only do 85 lbs.sore today but did 5.5 miles easy.
ChiefD
Footballguy
I'm gonna need more kettlebell.kettlebell workMan are we all
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Speaking of strength work, Cross-fit's Camille:
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http://www.wodtalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Camille-Leblanc-Bazinet-26.jpg
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FUBAR
Footballguy
What are you ####### gumby?!pretty muchMan are we all
hit the gym yesterday - rowed 2k, kettlebell work, core, and deep squats (where you ### hits your heels) but could only do 85 lbs.
not me: https://razorhybridfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/DeepSquats.jpg (I went just a little deeper, but on a Smith machine)
worrierking
Footballguy
There are a couple of flavors of Gu that I can tolerate. The Chomps are ok. I really don't like any of the options. I eat a couple for each marathon. Good luck.
I have cancelled my hotel for Houston. I will get the calf healthy and see if I can get ready for Columbia on 3/7. I would be highly upset, but my hip really is ok, so I know there are more marathons in me.
Ned
Footballguy
Hang10 - I prefer Hammer Gel over Gu simply for the taste and consistency. It's a bit thinner than Gu, which makes it really easy to eat. I always chase it with water to help digestion, but I can easily eat one without water if forced.
worrier - Sucks, dude. You've got a great mindset though. Kudos for that.
worrier - Sucks, dude. You've got a great mindset though. Kudos for that.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Made it at 6:00 pace. That calculates out at 18:39 -- better than my outside official PR of 18:41. HR was under 170 until the last mile where I saw it as high as 173. I've been as high as the low 180s before so I guess I had a little room there to press harder. Breathing was fine. Really tough, though. I'm not used to running like that and my mind was screaming at me to quit.
Even at a 1% incline, I know the treadmill is a bit easier than outside with the hills, wind and everything. Still, I'm very pleased considering I've promised myself to focus exclusively on 5K training for the next several months. I have plenty of time to improve.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Guilty. One run in the last week, work has me bent over. New system implementation problems. Fun stuff! Still doing my exercises in the morning, but i really need to dig deep and knock a few miles out after work tomorrow no matter how tired I am.Man are we all
Sand
Footballguy
I haven't done anything in a week. Up to 90 hours in the last week - working until at least midnight tonight. No end in sight - this sucks.Guilty. One run in the last week, work has me bent over. New system implementation problems. Fun stuff! Still doing my exercises in the morning, but i really need to dig deep and knock a few miles out after work tomorrow no matter how tired I am.Man are we all
tri-man 47
Footballguy
A "go to" for me in distance races is Accelerade in my fluid containers (Amphipod). I like the 4/1 carb/protein ratio, and I like not being compelled to grab a small sip at the aid stations. I'll carry a couple of Gu's as well ..generally vanilla.Hang 10 said:
ChiefD
Footballguy
Formal training for my spring half starts on Monday, but I've been trying to run at least 3 days a week all winter. Stomach issues have been screwing with that over the last couple of weeks, but I look to be back to somewhat normal.
Ran a real smooth 6 last night. I think the rest this winter combined with really drinking little to no alcohol over the last month has helped me tremendously. Down about 5-6 pounds and really haven't started the hard training yet. Feeling good about the prospects this year. Weather finally broke, so about 32 when I started. Very pleasant.
Time to finally buck up and get the heart monitor. Probably pull the trigger on the Tom Tom watch on Monday or Tuesday. Wife will not be pleased.
Ran a real smooth 6 last night. I think the rest this winter combined with really drinking little to no alcohol over the last month has helped me tremendously. Down about 5-6 pounds and really haven't started the hard training yet. Feeling good about the prospects this year. Weather finally broke, so about 32 when I started. Very pleasant.
Time to finally buck up and get the heart monitor. Probably pull the trigger on the Tom Tom watch on Monday or Tuesday. Wife will not be pleased.
Ned
Footballguy
juxt - nice work on the speed! Curious how that translates to the road.
Chief - you got this. Just be smart and don't be a slave to the schedule. Listen to the cues your body is sending. HR is one of those critical cues.
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I've been doing a lot of thinking/reflecting lately.... I've always had a love/hate relationship with 26.2. I've come to realize that love was simply chasing the challenge. I've processed this for the past month and I've realized last month's 3:09 has scratched that itch for me. I have nothing else to prove to myself with the distance and it just takes so much out of me that I don't see the upside any more. So with that; I'm done. (I'll run Boston if I get in, obviously)
I feel like I'm breaking up with a long time GF that I've kind of hated for a while.
Chief - you got this. Just be smart and don't be a slave to the schedule. Listen to the cues your body is sending. HR is one of those critical cues.
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I've been doing a lot of thinking/reflecting lately.... I've always had a love/hate relationship with 26.2. I've come to realize that love was simply chasing the challenge. I've processed this for the past month and I've realized last month's 3:09 has scratched that itch for me. I have nothing else to prove to myself with the distance and it just takes so much out of me that I don't see the upside any more. So with that; I'm done. (I'll run Boston if I get in, obviously)
I feel like I'm breaking up with a long time GF that I've kind of hated for a while.
Hang 10
Footballguy
I'm sorry butjuxt - nice work on the speed! Curious how that translates to the road.
Chief - you got this. Just be smart and don't be a slave to the schedule. Listen to the cues your body is sending. HR is one of those critical cues.
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I've been doing a lot of thinking/reflecting lately.... I've always had a love/hate relationship with 26.2. I've come to realize that love was simply chasing the challenge. I've processed this for the past month and I've realized last month's 3:09 has scratched that itch for me. I have nothing else to prove to myself with the distance and it just takes so much out of me that I don't see the upside any more. So with that; I'm done. (I'll run Boston if I get in, obviously)
I feel like I'm breaking up with a long time GF that I've kind of hated for a while.
One day in the near future you will chase 2:59:59
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
pbm107
Footballguy
My plan in the past was to take a Clif Razz shot every 5 miles or so and that worked out well for me in my first marathon. In my second marathon it was a bit warmer than I'd hoped so I drank too much water early in the race which caused some GI distress. So I was only able to take in a shot at miles 5 and 10, after that I didn't take any gels or fluid.Hang 10 said:
In the future I am not sure how I am going to handle nutrition on race day, but I have been reading some stuff by Tim Noakes and I am only going to drink to thirst in races from now on.
pbm107
Footballguy
Agree, it is amazing that you are able to do put in a race level of effort into a workout and the fact that you did it on a treadmill is even more impressive. I would never consider attempting a workout like that, seems brutal.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Thanks, guys. I purposely posted that I was going to attempt this so I would feel obligated to post my success or failure afterwards. I thought about this thread during the workout and that helped me make it through it. Another example of how this thread makes us better runners!
koby925
Footballguy
That's how I'm thinking I'd feel and I've never done one. Don't know if it will be worth the time/effort/pain. And why IF I do one, I want to do it for a BQ, run Boston and hang up the 26.2 dreams.juxt - nice work on the speed! Curious how that translates to the road.
Chief - you got this. Just be smart and don't be a slave to the schedule. Listen to the cues your body is sending. HR is one of those critical cues.
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I've been doing a lot of thinking/reflecting lately.... I've always had a love/hate relationship with 26.2. I've come to realize that love was simply chasing the challenge. I've processed this for the past month and I've realized last month's 3:09 has scratched that itch for me. I have nothing else to prove to myself with the distance and it just takes so much out of me that I don't see the upside any more. So with that; I'm done. (I'll run Boston if I get in, obviously)
I feel like I'm breaking up with a long time GF that I've kind of hated for a while.
worrierking
Footballguy
I have done the exact same thing with Booze on 132 different occasions.I've been doing a lot of thinking/reflecting lately.... I've always had a love/hate relationship with 26.2. I've come to realize that love was simply chasing the challenge. I've processed this for the past month and I've realized last month's 3:09 has scratched that itch for me. I have nothing else to prove to myself with the distance and it just takes so much out of me that I don't see the upside any more. So with that; I'm done. (I'll run Boston if I get in, obviously)
I feel like I'm breaking up with a long time GF that I've kind of hated for a while.
Beer - So sorry to hear about the loss of your sister. That's such a tough thing to deal with, that I can't even imagine what you're going through. My guess is that running would help me just as it's seeming to help you. Glad that you can find strength through that outlet.
Hang 10 - Not sure if they've been mentioned, but Huma gels were my lifeline throughout training and running my first 50 miler this fall. I was essentially consuming a bottle of water with 200 calories of Tailwind along with one Huma gel, every hour. The Huma gels were just so much more tolerable for me personally than any of the bigger name brand of Hammer, Gu, etc. The Huma gels are all-natural and taste fantastic (no, I'm not a Huma rep!).
Tri-Man - Though Tailwind worked like a charm for me, I'm always open to new products so I may have to give the Accelerade a try. I've never had it. How did you decide on that? How's the taste?
It's been a long, long, long absence for me from the FFA boards in general, and this thread in particular. While I checked in occasionally I had been hoping to become a bit more active in this thread over the past year as I trained for my first 50 miler, but ultimately just didn't make the time for it. Big thanks to everyone for a lot of the wisdom I've gained from this thread. The wisdom, general encouragement of each other, and humor aided tremendously in scratching my ultramarathon itch.
As noted above, I consumed only Tailwind (one bottle per hour w/ 200 calories) and Huma gel (one per ~1 hour) with no solid food the entire race and never once felt low on energy or had any stomach issues. Can't say enough about those two products from my personal experience. I had some IT band issues from miles 45-52, which was the first time I had ever dealt with that. That said, my goal was to simply finish and based on finishes %'s from my first 50K in the spring and trail marathon mid-summer, I had planned on a 13-14 hour finish for this 52.1 mile race. I managed to go sub-12 hours which I was more than pleased with, including a surprising kick to knock out the last mile in 7:41 to get there. The race I did was run concurrently with a marathon and 100 miler (started the day prior), and it was an eye opener seeing some of those 100 milers continue to put one foot in front of the other on the trail, often times in a zombie-like fashion. Not sure why that didn't strike the thought of one day toeing the line of a 100 miler from my head, but it didn't.
I've really only run on average 1-2 times per week over the past 3-4 months, but it's time to get back on track as I've put back on the 10-12 pounds I lost during training. Have a 2nd child due on May, and I just can't decide whether to continue the long distance training or to switch gears and approach this year as the "Summer of Speed" and take a stab at some 5K/10K type races so that the time commitment is lessened. So, distance vs speed...where's everyone stand?!
Hang 10 - Not sure if they've been mentioned, but Huma gels were my lifeline throughout training and running my first 50 miler this fall. I was essentially consuming a bottle of water with 200 calories of Tailwind along with one Huma gel, every hour. The Huma gels were just so much more tolerable for me personally than any of the bigger name brand of Hammer, Gu, etc. The Huma gels are all-natural and taste fantastic (no, I'm not a Huma rep!).
Tri-Man - Though Tailwind worked like a charm for me, I'm always open to new products so I may have to give the Accelerade a try. I've never had it. How did you decide on that? How's the taste?
It's been a long, long, long absence for me from the FFA boards in general, and this thread in particular. While I checked in occasionally I had been hoping to become a bit more active in this thread over the past year as I trained for my first 50 miler, but ultimately just didn't make the time for it. Big thanks to everyone for a lot of the wisdom I've gained from this thread. The wisdom, general encouragement of each other, and humor aided tremendously in scratching my ultramarathon itch.
As noted above, I consumed only Tailwind (one bottle per hour w/ 200 calories) and Huma gel (one per ~1 hour) with no solid food the entire race and never once felt low on energy or had any stomach issues. Can't say enough about those two products from my personal experience. I had some IT band issues from miles 45-52, which was the first time I had ever dealt with that. That said, my goal was to simply finish and based on finishes %'s from my first 50K in the spring and trail marathon mid-summer, I had planned on a 13-14 hour finish for this 52.1 mile race. I managed to go sub-12 hours which I was more than pleased with, including a surprising kick to knock out the last mile in 7:41 to get there. The race I did was run concurrently with a marathon and 100 miler (started the day prior), and it was an eye opener seeing some of those 100 milers continue to put one foot in front of the other on the trail, often times in a zombie-like fashion. Not sure why that didn't strike the thought of one day toeing the line of a 100 miler from my head, but it didn't.
I've really only run on average 1-2 times per week over the past 3-4 months, but it's time to get back on track as I've put back on the 10-12 pounds I lost during training. Have a 2nd child due on May, and I just can't decide whether to continue the long distance training or to switch gears and approach this year as the "Summer of Speed" and take a stab at some 5K/10K type races so that the time commitment is lessened. So, distance vs speed...where's everyone stand?!
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SteelCurtain
Footballguy
Ned - WHOA! Congrats on BQing and for breaking up with the 26.2. I am with you every time I run the marathon. I get tired. Sick. Have no time. It beats you up. etc. With the cold weather, motivation is at an all time low. I estimate you will be running a marathon in Fall 2016. But it will will warm up in spring 2016.....and you'll wonder.....could you, should you. And I'll bet you will.juxt - nice work on the speed! Curious how that translates to the road.
Chief - you got this. Just be smart and don't be a slave to the schedule. Listen to the cues your body is sending. HR is one of those critical cues.
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I've been doing a lot of thinking/reflecting lately.... I've always had a love/hate relationship with 26.2. I've come to realize that love was simply chasing the challenge. I've processed this for the past month and I've realized last month's 3:09 has scratched that itch for me. I have nothing else to prove to myself with the distance and it just takes so much out of me that I don't see the upside any more. So with that; I'm done. (I'll run Boston if I get in, obviously)
I feel like I'm breaking up with a long time GF that I've kind of hated for a while.
In the meantime, enjoy hunting, 13.1's, 3.1's, and your family!
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
Beer - my condolences to you and your family. Always hard to lose a close family member.
gruecd
Footballguy
I'm sorry butjuxt - nice work on the speed! Curious how that translates to the road.
Chief - you got this. Just be smart and don't be a slave to the schedule. Listen to the cues your body is sending. HR is one of those critical cues.
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I've been doing a lot of thinking/reflecting lately.... I've always had a love/hate relationship with 26.2. I've come to realize that love was simply chasing the challenge. I've processed this for the past month and I've realized last month's 3:09 has scratched that itch for me. I have nothing else to prove to myself with the distance and it just takes so much out of me that I don't see the upside any more. So with that; I'm done. (I'll run Boston if I get in, obviously)
I feel like I'm breaking up with a long time GF that I've kind of hated for a while.
One day in the near future you will chase 2:59:59
tri-man 47
Footballguy
I picked up on Accelerade back during my active triathlon years. I did notice, when doing long (2-1 1/2 hour) indoor bike training in the basement, that Accelerade seemed effective to sustain energy while Gatorade or water just didn't cut it. The consistency is more of a watery milkshake than flavored water. The taste is OK ..probably something of an acquired taste (I get the orange).Tri-Man - Though Tailwind worked like a charm for me, I'm always open to new products so I may have to give the Accelerade a try. I've never had it. How did you decide on that? How's the taste?
I've really only run on average 1-2 times per week over the past 3-4 months, but it's time to get back on track as I've put back on the 10-12 pounds I lost during training. Have a 2nd child due on May, and I just can't decide whether to continue the long distance training or to switch gears and approach this year as the "Summer of Speed" and take a stab at some 5K/10K type races so that the time commitment is lessened. So, distance vs speed...where's everyone stand?!
While my two kids were young, I focused heavily on 5Ks and just occasionally went as far as 10 mile races. I liked that in terms of the family balance. It was only in the last five years that I ever ran a marathon, in large part because I've had more free time as the kids grew up and out. So with a young family, I vote speed.
And Ned, I hear you about the love/hate with marathons. I was convinced I was done with the distance after running Boston in 2011, but then the bombings happened. I don't know where I'll end up after this year. I'll run Boston again, and then a couple of the Bourbon Chase guys in Michigan asked me to join their June relay team in which I'll run a 50K ultra (4 runners running together: one does 5 miles (peeling off after 2.5 and returning to the start); one does 10; one does 20; one does 31 ..the slowest runner of the group dictates pace for each section ..and they have discounting based on age
). But when I get a full-time teaching gig next fall, my entire life pace will change dramatically. I'd like to get back to triathlons ..but I'll also move to a new ooold-man AG where I can medal mong to my heart's content. We'll see. And I agree that you'll be back at the marathoning at some point!
FUBAR
Footballguy
Almost same here. I did 10x 1 minute intervals after hearing an old friend committed suicide earlier this week. Running pissed off let some of that stream go.
Nigel
Footballguy
I gotta say, people in the workout thread can argue all they want about how other workouts are more efficient/effective for all around fitness. But I've done them all and nothing matches the mental benefits of a good run.
MAC_32
Footballguy
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Beer -- I'm very sorry to hear about your sister. That has to be tough. Sorry. :(
Hang 10
Footballguy
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Hang 10 -- Same as gruecd. "Solid" food every five miles, alternating water and poweraid in between. Except I vastly prefer Shot Blocks to gels. But that's obviously just personal preference.
Ned -- I hear you on the marathon. My last one (my fourth) was in 2012. It went extremely well by my standards, and the desire to do another has never come back. My wife wants to do another this fall and I agreed, but I have no time goal and at this point I don't plan on setting one. That might change depending on how training goes, but I kind of doubt it. Most of my running these days is just for fun, relaxation, and the occasional violent stress-reliever. I don't need to add any stress to my life by picking a life-or-death goal pace. Weirdly, I don't feel this way about any other distance. Just the marathon. That distance is too high-stakes IMO.
Edit: Upon re-reading it, that "fun and relaxation" line coupled with my lack of participation in the thread makes it sound like I'm not doing much. This is my off-season, at least until mid-February or early March, and I'm doing my normal 35 mpw (two 10s and three 5s) every week. All of it's easy with a weekly MP run or end-of-run mixed in for variety. I'm not worried about building back up to the marathon. But I'd rather go sub-100 in the HM. I ran 1:41:09 last year, so I'm only 70 seconds away. That would mean more to me than a marathon PR.
Ned -- I hear you on the marathon. My last one (my fourth) was in 2012. It went extremely well by my standards, and the desire to do another has never come back. My wife wants to do another this fall and I agreed, but I have no time goal and at this point I don't plan on setting one. That might change depending on how training goes, but I kind of doubt it. Most of my running these days is just for fun, relaxation, and the occasional violent stress-reliever. I don't need to add any stress to my life by picking a life-or-death goal pace. Weirdly, I don't feel this way about any other distance. Just the marathon. That distance is too high-stakes IMO.
Edit: Upon re-reading it, that "fun and relaxation" line coupled with my lack of participation in the thread makes it sound like I'm not doing much. This is my off-season, at least until mid-February or early March, and I'm doing my normal 35 mpw (two 10s and three 5s) every week. All of it's easy with a weekly MP run or end-of-run mixed in for variety. I'm not worried about building back up to the marathon. But I'd rather go sub-100 in the HM. I ran 1:41:09 last year, so I'm only 70 seconds away. That would mean more to me than a marathon PR.
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sho nuff
Footballguy
Updates...
-body hates me...lately its the asthma...i can work out some but running more than 3 or 4 miles hurts and brings it on.
- 3 to 4 miles is fine cause I still have not replaced my Garmin and only lasts about 45 minutes these days. Looking at the new Garmin vivo whatever all around watch thing. Looks pretty cool.
-kids activities are wearing me out too...coaching my son's basketball team plus soccer will gear up again soon.
On a not so fun note, they found another tumor on the other side of my Dad's brain. In a place they can't operate. The good news, it was not visible on a scan they did in November. The day after we left after Christmas, he began forgetting things and was confused about his medicine. Took him in and found it. Other good news...i guess, they didn't do radiation in that part with the last tumor so they can attack it with chemo and radiation.
Not the best start to the New year, but we are all taking it day by day to see how he responds to treatment. Just would appreciate any kinds thoughts or prayers or whatever it is you do.
Going to get my own health back on track and hit the road more often in the coming months.
-body hates me...lately its the asthma...i can work out some but running more than 3 or 4 miles hurts and brings it on.
- 3 to 4 miles is fine cause I still have not replaced my Garmin and only lasts about 45 minutes these days. Looking at the new Garmin vivo whatever all around watch thing. Looks pretty cool.
-kids activities are wearing me out too...coaching my son's basketball team plus soccer will gear up again soon.
On a not so fun note, they found another tumor on the other side of my Dad's brain. In a place they can't operate. The good news, it was not visible on a scan they did in November. The day after we left after Christmas, he began forgetting things and was confused about his medicine. Took him in and found it. Other good news...i guess, they didn't do radiation in that part with the last tumor so they can attack it with chemo and radiation.
Not the best start to the New year, but we are all taking it day by day to see how he responds to treatment. Just would appreciate any kinds thoughts or prayers or whatever it is you do.
Going to get my own health back on track and hit the road more often in the coming months.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Hoping the best for your dad, Sho Nuff.
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