Ran a 10k in June (3 Viewers)

[GStrot]

5 weeks until the SoldierField10...

So you'd better get your butt outside and start pounding those miles!!! You've really got three weeks of training left.

Thanx coach!! - planning to do 6 & 13 +/- each weekend until May 19th, and I'll probably only do one run that last weekend. Two treadmill runs during the week, including one for "speed" work. Should get me to the starting line OK.

This weekend was a vast improvement over my aborted 15 miler last weekend: 6 miles on Saturday & set a course PR by 17 seconds - I've done that run at least 20 times since Jan of 2006. I mixed in 2 fartlek segments each mile from 2-5 and finished with a 7:19, which is very fast for me. My hammy's were a little sore at the end, but I felt good enough to do yardwork the rest of the day... Sunday I set out for a 13 miler at 9/min pace like I have the past several weekends. I decided to change my drinking from every 2 miles to every 1.5 miles to see if that made any difference. After mile 8 I decided to keep my pace steady and complete the 15 miler I bailed on last weekend. After mile 12 my hammys were barking but I still pushed my pace and I finished mile 15 at an 8:22. Overall another very strong run for me!Two more weekends of work, then one easy weekend before the race.

Nice job! Congratulations on getting rid of the doubt from when you had to abort the 15 mile run and kicking its ###.

 

[GStrot]

Dead-freaking-last was a 71yo woman in 7:59:38 (clock 8:20:52). I was going thru airport security at about that time. GB her, she still managed a 4th place finish in her division. Actually, upon further review, the 2nd-to-last runner had the longest clock time, coming in at 8:31:57, but her chip time was 7:55:14. Only by virtue of starting a couple corrals further back was she the last one on the course (51yo).

I am usually more impressed with the people that finish at the end than those that finish at the beginning. Running for 2 hours (granted at super human speeds) seems a lot less impressive than running for 8 #######g hours. Maybe that is just me. But, I cheer a lot louder for the people who are fighting it for longer. I guess I like the underdog or something.GB that 71 year old woman.

 

[pigskinliquors]

So, the guy that I made the "bet" with (see post #1) was in town this weekend. Since his wife and my wife are probably going to run with me in this thing while he runs the marathon (see post #15 or so), we all ran my 4 miler on Sunday together. The good news is, we all finished. The bad news is the wimmen are going to slow me down. I will probably look for a local 10k or 5k or maybe even a half marathon later in the summer or fall to see how I do on my own. But, the goal of this one is finishing so not a big deal.After the 4 miles on Sunday, I am feeling really good about making that goal. Running with people is a lot more interesting and I had to recheck the route on mapmyrun to make sure that I had actually done a full 4 miles. I didn't time it but it was probably close to 45 or 50 minutes.Anyway, my wife and my friend's wife (and my friend) were impressed with how easily I was able to do the 4 miles. I guess I have made a lot of progress (although it makes me wonder how out of shape they thought I was back in January) and I thank everyone who has posted here for their help and encouragement.One month to go.

You've come a long ways, and you're getting stronger every week! Four miles is now a piece of cake for you. Can you imagine saying that when this thread started? Keep it up!!

 

[Schmegma]

Anatomy of a bonk

Blue = my pace, green = elevation in feet, from my Garmin.

Wow, the 1st half didn't look that bad, more gradual inclines, tho the 2nd half hills look steeper.

Blue spike at 2mi is a potty break. I probably should have gotten out of my corral at the first hint of needing to pee, as it took 34mins to get to the starting line.

Spikes at 16 and 18 are when I stopped to put on some Vaseline for thigh chafing.

Like that green spike at 19? I think that was a freeway overpass.

That graph is really freakin' cool - I never really considered getting a Garmin until right now. That's outstanding.

Quick hijack.I know they work great for running, but has anyone used the Garmin Forerunner 205 or 305 for biking? Does it still pick up the satellites reliably?

 

[tri-man 47]

Wraith and GStrot - good runs!

Liquors - I've looked at my age group competitors' times at the completion of my tri's and noticed (as you did) that the time gap is often a minute or two to the next faster or slower person. That is always a reminder to me that I'm really not racing them - I'm just challenging myself based on my training.

Running tip of the day: Work the corners. A good way to get a little pick-up in the pace, and save some accumulated seconds, is to "push it" while rounding corners/making turns. Instead of short-stepping through the turn, consciously work the stride and drive through it forcefully. This will lengthen the stride back out a bit, which will help to reestablish a good pace (even if it then slows a bit until the next turn). So a course or route with a number of turns then becomes a better opportunity to keep a nice pace, rather than being one that slows you down with the numerous turns. It also breaks the race down into smaller segments as you anticipate the next turn.

 

[pigskinliquors]

Anatomy of a bonk

Blue = my pace, green = elevation in feet, from my Garmin.

Wow, the 1st half didn't look that bad, more gradual inclines, tho the 2nd half hills look steeper.

Blue spike at 2mi is a potty break. I probably should have gotten out of my corral at the first hint of needing to pee, as it took 34mins to get to the starting line.

Spikes at 16 and 18 are when I stopped to put on some Vaseline for thigh chafing.

Like that green spike at 19? I think that was a freeway overpass.

That graph is really freakin' cool - I never really considered getting a Garmin until right now. That's outstanding.

Quick hijack.I know they work great for running, but has anyone used the Garmin Forerunner 205 or 305 for biking? Does it still pick up the satellites reliably?

I use my 305 for almost all of my Bike Rides, and it is incredibly reliable. You can also purchase a cadence kit, which is a great add-on; or a bike mount. I highly recommend it for biking. It's been most beneficial to me as a HR monitor. I've realized how low my HR is/was in comparison to running = I've been able to increase my effort more than I thought I could. Buy it! You know you want it, and deserve it .

 

[RoarinSonoran]

I am usually more impressed with the people that finish at the end than those that finish at the beginning. Running for 2 hours (granted at super human speeds) seems a lot less impressive than running for 8 #######g hours. Maybe that is just me. But, I cheer a lot louder for the people who are fighting it for longer. I guess I like the underdog or something.GB that 71 year old woman.

Same here. I usually try to hang out and cheer on those behind me, but I was beat. Didn't want to eat, even tho I know I needed to. Why do these morons (race folks) serve cookies, donuts, etc after a race?! I'm dehydrated, I don't want something to dry out my mouth even further! I took a couple bananas and some chips and ate them later on the plane. I crashed the TNT tent and should have snarfed some good BBQ (as opposed to the PBJ at PF Chang's ), but only had a couple bites of that. So, I got my bag (I believe it's a common marathon practice now that you can check a bag at the start and they'll ship it to the finish), found the shuttle back to near the airport hotels, took a shower, and headed to the airport. As it turned out, when all was said and done, I really didn't have the minutes available to cheerlead.I should be able to do some cheering in SD (no time constraint). Plus, I'll know a few more people there (some of my old AZ TNT buds). I didn't know anyone in this race, although there were 40 AZ folks in the full (I finished 22nd ) and 106 in the half.

 

[RoarinSonoran]

Running tip of the day: Work the corners. A good way to get a little pick-up in the pace, and save some accumulated seconds, is to "push it" while rounding corners/making turns. Instead of short-stepping through the turn, consciously work the stride and drive through it forcefully. This will lengthen the stride back out a bit, which will help to reestablish a good pace (even if it then slows a bit until the next turn). So a course or route with a number of turns then becomes a better opportunity to keep a nice pace, rather than being one that slows you down with the numerous turns. It also breaks the race down into smaller segments as you anticipate the next turn.

Caveat: Know thy race. CMM had a sharp right turn at 0.8mi. No way in hell did I want to cut that corner short, because 1000 other runners were going to do the same thing. It wasn't until mile 11 that there was some elbow room, as the half-marathoners made a right turn on towards their finish line (I later commented to someone around mile 23: "ya know, we had a 'Matrix' moment back there...red pill, blue pill...we could have turned right" ).

 

[GStrot]

So, the guy that I made the "bet" with (see post #1) was in town this weekend. Since his wife and my wife are probably going to run with me in this thing while he runs the marathon (see post #15 or so), we all ran my 4 miler on Sunday together. The good news is, we all finished. The bad news is the wimmen are going to slow me down. I will probably look for a local 10k or 5k or maybe even a half marathon later in the summer or fall to see how I do on my own. But, the goal of this one is finishing so not a big deal.

After the 4 miles on Sunday, I am feeling really good about making that goal. Running with people is a lot more interesting and I had to recheck the route on mapmyrun to make sure that I had actually done a full 4 miles. I didn't time it but it was probably close to 45 or 50 minutes.

Anyway, my wife and my friend's wife (and my friend) were impressed with how easily I was able to do the 4 miles. I guess I have made a lot of progress (although it makes me wonder how out of shape they thought I was back in January) and I thank everyone who has posted here for their help and encouragement.

One month to go.

You've come a long ways, and you're getting stronger every week! Four miles is now a piece of cake for you. Can you imagine saying that when this thread started? Keep it up!!

Maybe when the thread started (I was pretty motivated to do this after the bet was made) but certainly not the day before.

 

[wraith5]

which 10k are you doing? you probably told us somewhere along the way... but I'm not digging to look for it.

 

[GStrot]

which 10k are you doing? you probably told us somewhere along the way... but I'm not digging to look for it.

Sun burst in South Bend first weekend in June. Finish on the 50 yard line in Notre Dame stadium. http://www.sunburstraces.org/info.cfm

Only two hours from Chicago. Feel free to come out.

 

[wraith5]

which 10k are you doing? you probably told us somewhere along the way... but I'm not digging to look for it.

Sun burst in South Bend first weekend in June. Finish on the 50 yard line in Notre Dame stadium. http://www.sunburstraces.org/info.cfm

Only two hours from Chicago. Feel free to come out.

Dude - I thought maybe you were doing the Run for the Zoo at Lincoln Park, in which case I seriously would have come out. South Bend is a bit out of my flight path - but we'll all be with you in spirit. My BG who just ran Nashville ran Sunburst a few years ago - he literally almost melted by the time he was through with the marathon. I hope the weather is better this year.

 

[RustyFA]

Did 10mi today, the final big run before the marathon! Nearly got attacked by a hell-hound along the way. Y'all have seen movies or other shows where they show a dog running full out, low to the ground, ready to attack and kill their prey. This is exactly how this beast was running. Thanks to anti-gun nuts and their gun bannings , I wasn't packing, so I did the next logical thing -- I ran out into the street to the center median. Fortunately, it was during a break in traffic and I safely avoided becoming a red smear on the pavement. I figured that I'd have a chance at dodging cars, whereas a dog would more likely become a hood ornament. The dog didn't follow me, but I really wasn't interested in finding out what he wanted. Tie up your ####### dogs, people! Anyhow, it was a good run, around a 9:23 pace, and fairly steady at that. Still gotta find that lower gear so I can stretch it for 26.2, instead of finding that wall somewhere in the teens.Weather was similar to what's being forecast for Nashville on race day. Low 50's, overcast, damp from overnight sprinkles, perfect! 76/54 and t-storms is the forecast, so I'm hoping for a little rain and a lotta clouds.

Everyone seems to be in the final stages of their training. Hopefully you all keep checking in or find a new challenge for later in the year.

I'll be here until October(and beyond. Crazy amount of posts in the last couple days. I am over 100 behind.Question: I bought some compression shorts-1 pair-and want to know how they should fit. That is serious. Please, no borderline gay pron links to show. I am going to buy more but just don't know if these are tight enough.

 

[tri-man 47]

Did 10mi today, the final big run before the marathon! Nearly got attacked by a hell-hound along the way. Y'all have seen movies or other shows where they show a dog running full out, low to the ground, ready to attack and kill their prey. This is exactly how this beast was running. Thanks to anti-gun nuts and their gun bannings , I wasn't packing, so I did the next logical thing -- I ran out into the street to the center median. Fortunately, it was during a break in traffic and I safely avoided becoming a red smear on the pavement. I figured that I'd have a chance at dodging cars, whereas a dog would more likely become a hood ornament. The dog didn't follow me, but I really wasn't interested in finding out what he wanted. Tie up your ####### dogs, people! Anyhow, it was a good run, around a 9:23 pace, and fairly steady at that. Still gotta find that lower gear so I can stretch it for 26.2, instead of finding that wall somewhere in the teens.Weather was similar to what's being forecast for Nashville on race day. Low 50's, overcast, damp from overnight sprinkles, perfect! 76/54 and t-storms is the forecast, so I'm hoping for a little rain and a lotta clouds.

Everyone seems to be in the final stages of their training. Hopefully you all keep checking in or find a new challenge for later in the year.

I'll be here until October(and beyond. Crazy amount of posts in the last couple days. I am over 100 behind.Question: I bought some compression shorts-1 pair-and want to know how they should fit. That is serious. Please, no borderline gay pron links to show. I am going to buy more but just don't know if these are tight enough.

They should fit snuggly all over. But they shouldn't be so tight as to be uncomfortable around the waist or on the legs (shouldn't feel like their cutting off your circulation). A lot of us will be training for many weeks to come. As I soon start to wind down my marathon training I need to quickly gear up the serious phase of my triathlon training. RoarinS will be racing into the fall with his whole series of races (if they don't kill him first!). Do you feel like you're into training mode yet, or just running steady and building a good base? The latter is probably best at this point ...it'd be good if you're doing some strength training now as well.

 

[wraith5]

I'll be here until October(and beyond. Crazy amount of posts in the last couple days. I am over 100 behind.Question: I bought some compression shorts-1 pair-and want to know how they should fit. That is serious. Please, no borderline gay pron links to show. I am going to buy more but just don't know if these are tight enough.

It's tough to catch back up if you spend a week away from this thread - which is great, actually. A lot of people still staying active and contributing. Tri-man hit it on the head - compression shorts should compress, but not restrict. They should definitely be comfortable if they fit correctly.

 

[Poppa]

Dead-freaking-last was a 71yo woman in 7:59:38 (clock 8:20:52). I was going thru airport security at about that time.

GB her, she still managed a 4th place finish in her division.

Actually, upon further review, the 2nd-to-last runner had the longest clock time, coming in at 8:31:57, but her chip time was 7:55:14. Only by virtue of starting a couple corrals further back was she the last one on the course (51yo).

I am usually more impressed with the people that finish at the end than those that finish at the beginning. Running for 2 hours (granted at super human speeds) seems a lot less impressive than running for 8 #######g hours. Maybe that is just me. But, I cheer a lot louder for the people who are fighting it for longer. I guess I like the underdog or something.GB that 71 year old woman.

The courage of some of these 'tail-enders' never fails to impress me! Often comes to mind on a long race that...while I'm somewhere out there...fightin' the woods and the elements...1/2 way done...but completely at peace - that some young buck...and his girl...are done...sittin' back with their beers...! Something so enjoyable - so transcendent - should be done more slowly!

 

[pigskinliquors]

Dead-freaking-last was a 71yo woman in 7:59:38 (clock 8:20:52). I was going thru airport security at about that time.

GB her, she still managed a 4th place finish in her division.

Actually, upon further review, the 2nd-to-last runner had the longest clock time, coming in at 8:31:57, but her chip time was 7:55:14. Only by virtue of starting a couple corrals further back was she the last one on the course (51yo).

I am usually more impressed with the people that finish at the end than those that finish at the beginning. Running for 2 hours (granted at super human speeds) seems a lot less impressive than running for 8 #######g hours. Maybe that is just me. But, I cheer a lot louder for the people who are fighting it for longer. I guess I like the underdog or something.GB that 71 year old woman.

The courage of some of these 'tail-enders' never fails to impress me! Often comes to mind on a long race that...while I'm somewhere out there...fightin' the woods and the elements...1/2 way done...but completely at peace - that some young buck...and his girl...are done...sittin' back with their beers...! Something so enjoyable - so transcendent - should be done more slowly!

At the tri this weekend, a middle-aged female was literally 20 yards from the finish, and started dry heaving. she went down on her knees for a good 4 minutes with the crowd screaming like crazy for her. She got up, ran/walked/shuffled the last 20 yards, and yacked again at the finish line. Pretty darn courageous if you ask me!

 

[meeka]

I'll be here until October(and beyond. Crazy amount of posts in the last couple days. I am over 100 behind.Question: I bought some compression shorts-1 pair-and want to know how they should fit. That is serious. Please, no borderline gay pron links to show. I am going to buy more but just don't know if these are tight enough.

It's tough to catch back up if you spend a week away from this thread - which is great, actually. A lot of people still staying active and contributing. Tri-man hit it on the head - compression shorts should compress, but not restrict. They should definitely be comfortable if they fit correctly.

It is tough to keep things going. I think I will have to make a stonger effort to get into this thread more often. I have been having ankle pain since my 5k, but have found that if I do some streatching prior to running I am able to run. I have been mixing in some biking, and arc machine these last few weeks because of my ankle, but I think I will try to get back to running 4 times a week. Good to catch up will all of the progress.

 

[DolphinsPhan]

Have to do my very first tempo run tonight. About 30-40 minutes at 8:30 pace. Any advice? Should I warm up with a slow 1/2 mile, full mile????

 

[pigskinliquors]

Have to do my very first tempo run tonight. About 30-40 minutes at 8:30 pace. Any advice? Should I warm up with a slow 1/2 mile, full mile????

I always warm up and cool down with at least a full mile.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

a middle-aged female was literally 20 yards from the finish, and started dry heaving. she went down on her knees for a good 4 minutes with the crowd screaming like crazy for her. She got up, ran/walked/shuffled the last 20 yards, and yacked again at the finish line. Pretty darn courageous if you ask me!

Yeah, I remember my first 5K too.

 

[gruecd]

Have to do my very first tempo run tonight. About 30-40 minutes at 8:30 pace. Any advice? Should I warm up with a slow 1/2 mile, full mile????

For me, one-mile warm up and one-mile cool down. Let us know how it goes!I did my last tempo run tonight before my marathon on 5/20. Temps close to 70 degrees, sunny, and kinda humid, so it was a tough run, but a good reminder of how it feels to tough it out late in a race. Four fast miles in 6:39, 6:46, 6:52, and 7:02. I usually go negative splits on these, but considering that it was 20 degrees warmer than what I've been running in lately, I'm still pretty happy with how it went.How's the training going for everyone else?

 

[DolphinsPhan]

Have to do my very first tempo run tonight. About 30-40 minutes at 8:30 pace. Any advice? Should I warm up with a slow 1/2 mile, full mile????

I always warm up and cool down with at least a full mile.

Tempo run was a piece of cake Did a warm up mile at 10 min pace and then did 4 miles at 8:30 pace. Cool down with 10 min mile and then another five minutes of walking. Did 6 total miles and I wasn't even winded. I think I am ready for my 5k and I still have another 2 weeks to keep training. I also hit the 150 mile mark on my current running shoes...the furthest I have run on a pair of shoes!!

 

[Schmegma]

Sports Authority has had Brooks Adrenaline 6 shoes on sale for $45 this week - I picked up a pair and may go back for another. I now have three pairs of Brooks in rotation (2 for outside and one for the treadmill).

How do these compare to the "Adrenaline GTS 5" (well, that's what it says on the tongue) model? I need to replace my shoes, and figgered I'd just go back to the same place and get the same shoes, for twice the $ale price you mentioned. If these are comparable (maybe they have an extra racing stripe, and they stamped a 6 instead of a 5?), then I'd much rather save money.

I think they're pretty comparable, but I'm not sure. I ran in them for 3.5 miles on the treadmill and they felt good - I'm 200 lbs and look for stability & cushioning in a shoe. The sale is 50% off and I think ends tomorrow (Sat). Check out brooksrunning dot com - I didn't even see the GTS 5 listed, so I'm guessing that's no longer in production. There is a GTS 7, so maybe that's why the 6 is on sale. My other pairs are the Trance model, which are about $130. So I'd be pretty happy if this pair works out!

I decided to visit a local running store today since I have over 200 miles on my Asics GT-2100 shoes. They inspected my feet, my pronation/supination, watched me walk and watched me run, and I ended up with the shoes they recommended - Brooks Adrenaline GTS 7. They really think these will help with my knee problems. I ran an easy 2.5 in them tonight and once I adjust to the different feel I really think they will help.

 

[RustyFA]

Did 10mi today, the final big run before the marathon! :X Nearly got attacked by a hell-hound along the way. Y'all have seen movies or other shows where they show a dog running full out, low to the ground, ready to attack and kill their prey. This is exactly how this beast was running. Thanks to anti-gun nuts and their gun bannings , I wasn't packing, so I did the next logical thing -- I ran out into the street to the center median. Fortunately, it was during a break in traffic and I safely avoided becoming a red smear on the pavement. I figured that I'd have a chance at dodging cars, whereas a dog would more likely become a hood ornament. The dog didn't follow me, but I really wasn't interested in finding out what he wanted. Tie up your ####### dogs, people! Anyhow, it was a good run, around a 9:23 pace, and fairly steady at that. Still gotta find that lower gear so I can stretch it for 26.2, instead of finding that wall somewhere in the teens.Weather was similar to what's being forecast for Nashville on race day. Low 50's, overcast, damp from overnight sprinkles, perfect! 76/54 and t-storms is the forecast, so I'm hoping for a little rain and a lotta clouds.

Everyone seems to be in the final stages of their training. Hopefully you all keep checking in or find a new challenge for later in the year.

I'll be here until October(and beyond. Crazy amount of posts in the last couple days. I am over 100 behind.Question: I bought some compression shorts-1 pair-and want to know how they should fit. That is serious. Please, no borderline gay pron links to show. I am going to buy more but just don't know if these are tight enough.

They should fit snuggly all over. But they shouldn't be so tight as to be uncomfortable around the waist or on the legs (shouldn't feel like their cutting off your circulation). A lot of us will be training for many weeks to come. As I soon start to wind down my marathon training I need to quickly gear up the serious phase of my triathlon training. RoarinS will be racing into the fall with his whole series of races (if they don't kill him first!). Do you feel like you're into training mode yet, or just running steady and building a good base? The latter is probably best at this point ...it'd be good if you're doing some strength training now as well.

Thanks man. Right now I am just getting the miles in until June 6th when I start training. I've done 4 miles 22 times in my new shoes. I have been running since December but got regular starting in late Feb. I am very anxious to get started with the training but honestly more than a little scared. I am competitive and see all you guys having awesome times. But right now I am the slowest of my group of 4 and that is just the way it is. I'm not really doing much for weight training. A little but I look fit. 5'10 175. I have gone from hustling for a 10 min mile to breaking 8 min miles once in a while. I think 9-9:30 will end up being our pace.GREAT job on the finishing guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is awesome. Very inspiring!

 

[wraith5]

Sports Authority has had Brooks Adrenaline 6 shoes on sale for $45 this week - I picked up a pair and may go back for another. I now have three pairs of Brooks in rotation (2 for outside and one for the treadmill).

How do these compare to the "Adrenaline GTS 5" (well, that's what it says on the tongue) model? I need to replace my shoes, and figgered I'd just go back to the same place and get the same shoes, for twice the $ale price you mentioned. If these are comparable (maybe they have an extra racing stripe, and they stamped a 6 instead of a 5?), then I'd much rather save money.

I think they're pretty comparable, but I'm not sure. I ran in them for 3.5 miles on the treadmill and they felt good - I'm 200 lbs and look for stability & cushioning in a shoe. The sale is 50% off and I think ends tomorrow (Sat). Check out brooksrunning dot com - I didn't even see the GTS 5 listed, so I'm guessing that's no longer in production. There is a GTS 7, so maybe that's why the 6 is on sale. My other pairs are the Trance model, which are about $130. So I'd be pretty happy if this pair works out!

I decided to visit a local running store today since I have over 200 miles on my Asics GT-2100 shoes. They inspected my feet, my pronation/supination, watched me walk and watched me run, and I ended up with the shoes they recommended - Brooks Adrenaline GTS 7. They really think these will help with my knee problems. I ran an easy 2.5 in them tonight and once I adjust to the different feel I really think they will help.

ETA: Didn't even realize I was quoted when I started to reply... Sports Authority has continued to sell the GTS 6 for < $50 - the pair that I use on the treadmill have been great so far - I'm really liking them and will likely use my spare pair when my Trance 6's get retired or just start mixing them in this summer. I just retired my Trance 5's with God knows how many miles on them (probably about 500 and they are still comfortable). Brooks makes great running shoes - I think you will like them a lot (I am also a converted Asics runner).

 

[DolphinsPhan]

Sports Authority has had Brooks Adrenaline 6 shoes on sale for $45 this week - I picked up a pair and may go back for another. I now have three pairs of Brooks in rotation (2 for outside and one for the treadmill).

How do these compare to the "Adrenaline GTS 5" (well, that's what it says on the tongue) model? I need to replace my shoes, and figgered I'd just go back to the same place and get the same shoes, for twice the $ale price you mentioned. If these are comparable (maybe they have an extra racing stripe, and they stamped a 6 instead of a 5?), then I'd much rather save money.

I think they're pretty comparable, but I'm not sure. I ran in them for 3.5 miles on the treadmill and they felt good - I'm 200 lbs and look for stability & cushioning in a shoe. The sale is 50% off and I think ends tomorrow (Sat). Check out brooksrunning dot com - I didn't even see the GTS 5 listed, so I'm guessing that's no longer in production. There is a GTS 7, so maybe that's why the 6 is on sale. My other pairs are the Trance model, which are about $130. So I'd be pretty happy if this pair works out!

I decided to visit a local running store today since I have over 200 miles on my Asics GT-2100 shoes. They inspected my feet, my pronation/supination, watched me walk and watched me run, and I ended up with the shoes they recommended - Brooks Adrenaline GTS 7. They really think these will help with my knee problems. I ran an easy 2.5 in them tonight and once I adjust to the different feel I really think they will help.

Outstanding decision. One of the smartest things you can do as far as picking out running shoes. Mizuno lover here...been running in them for over a year and never even soreness let alone an injury :knocksonwood:

 

[tri-man 47]

DPhan - nice tempo run! You'll definitely be ready for your 5K.

Rusty - Before the training gears up in early June, I'd offer two suggestions. First, I'd suggest breaking the 4 mile runs by mixing in some speed work to improve your striding (quarter miles or half miles) and/or popping a few longer runs to build confidence. Second, I'd encourage you to do some structured, regular strength training. You've got a nice window here for a couple of months until the running starts to build later in June. I keep beating the drum for a steady routine of pushups and situps/etc. each week. In particular, lunge steps will help with the hips and butt. That, along with one or two pure weight workouts, will pay off later in the summer. All in all, though, you have to be excited for the summer training! You'll be surprised with the steady development throughout the summer. It'll be fun to follow it here in this thread.

 

[avoiding injuries]

I'm still training for my 10K at the end of this month, but I thought I would share a little success story. I started running right about the 1st of the year. I haven't changed my diet so much because I have always been "aware" of what I was eating. I weighed in at 229lbs when I started and am down to 214 today. Great F'n feeling!

Eta: I'm 6'2 with a big frame so 15lbs is a significant amount of weight for me. I'm back to my college weight.

 

[El Floppo]

I'm still training for my 10K at the end of this month, but I thought I would share a little success story. I started running right about the 1st of the year. I haven't changed my diet so much because I have always been "aware" of what I was eating. I weighed in at 229lbs when I started and am down to 214 today. Great F'n feeling!Eta: I'm 6'2 with a big frame so 15lbs is a significant amount of weight for me. I'm back to my college weight.

Great work!I've done nothing. Ok, then- talk to you all soon!

 

[wraith5]

I'm still training for my 10K at the end of this month, but I thought I would share a little success story. I started running right about the 1st of the year. I haven't changed my diet so much because I have always been "aware" of what I was eating. I weighed in at 229lbs when I started and am down to 214 today. Great F'n feeling!Eta: I'm 6'2 with a big frame so 15lbs is a significant amount of weight for me. I'm back to my college weight.

Congratulations on the weight loss - and more importantly the continued training! Absolutely a "Great F'n feeling!!" My "official" weigh-in report after 12 weeks of training is tomorrow, so I'll share then and celebrate your achievement in the meantime!

 

[tri-man 47]

I'm still training for my 10K at the end of this month, but I thought I would share a little success story. I started running right about the 1st of the year. I haven't changed my diet so much because I have always been "aware" of what I was eating. I weighed in at 229lbs when I started and am down to 214 today. Great F'n feeling!Eta: I'm 6'2 with a big frame so 15lbs is a significant amount of weight for me. I'm back to my college weight.

Sweet! Keep us up-to-date on the 10K.Y'know, if you keep running after the race, those warmer summer months will help you sweat off even more weight, if you so desire. Either way, making exercise part of your lifestyle is a good thing!

 

[pigskinliquors]

I'm still training for my 10K at the end of this month, but I thought I would share a little success story. I started running right about the 1st of the year. I haven't changed my diet so much because I have always been "aware" of what I was eating. I weighed in at 229lbs when I started and am down to 214 today. Great F'n feeling!Eta: I'm 6'2 with a big frame so 15lbs is a significant amount of weight for me. I'm back to my college weight.

F'n Awesome! Keep it up!!

 

[gruecd]

I'm still training for my 10K at the end of this month, but I thought I would share a little success story. I started running right about the 1st of the year. I haven't changed my diet so much because I have always been "aware" of what I was eating. I weighed in at 229lbs when I started and am down to 214 today. Great F'n feeling!

Eta: I'm 6'2 with a big frame so 15lbs is a significant amount of weight for me. I'm back to my college weight.

Finally, a fellow Clydesdale to join forces against all the "skinnies" in this thread! Seriously, great job on the weight loss! I weighed about 220 in HS, got up over 250 in college, then took up running 4-5 years ago, and today I'm 210-215 at age 30. I'm almost 6'5" with a bigger frame, too, and I'm about as light as I'm going to get, so I can definitely appreciate the significance of the 15lbs you lost.

On a different note, I must add that I absolutely HATE 10K races, which sucks because the sixth-largest 10K race in the nation, the Bellin Run, is held in nearby Green Bay each June. It's really a sprint, and I just can't hold my speed for that long like I can in the 5K. I'm doing another marathon this month, but honestly my ideal distance is somewhere between 15K and half mary.

 

[RoarinSonoran]

Weird. There were 3.5mos between PFC and CMM, and there will be 3mos between SD and VB, yet SD->VB seems SOOO long! lol I guess because it's "all summer".

 

[GStrot]

I'm still training for my 10K at the end of this month, but I thought I would share a little success story. I started running right about the 1st of the year. I haven't changed my diet so much because I have always been "aware" of what I was eating. I weighed in at 229lbs when I started and am down to 214 today. Great F'n feeling!Eta: I'm 6'2 with a big frame so 15lbs is a significant amount of weight for me. I'm back to my college weight.

15 pounds is a signifcant amount of weight for most everyone. Nice job.

 

[GStrot]

I'm still training for my 10K at the end of this month, but I thought I would share a little success story. I started running right about the 1st of the year. I haven't changed my diet so much because I have always been "aware" of what I was eating. I weighed in at 229lbs when I started and am down to 214 today. Great F'n feeling!

Eta: I'm 6'2 with a big frame so 15lbs is a significant amount of weight for me. I'm back to my college weight.

Finally, a fellow Clydesdale to join forces against all the "skinnies" in this thread! Seriously, great job on the weight loss! I weighed about 220 in HS, got up over 250 in college, then took up running 4-5 years ago, and today I'm 210-215 at age 30. I'm almost 6'5" with a bigger frame, too, and I'm about as light as I'm going to get, so I can definitely appreciate the significance of the 15lbs you lost.

On a different note, I must add that I absolutely HATE 10K races, which sucks because the sixth-largest 10K race in the nation, the Bellin Run, is held in nearby Green Bay each June. It's really a sprint, and I just can't hold my speed for that long like I can in the 5K. I'm doing another marathon this month, but honestly my ideal distance is somewhere between 15K and half mary.

I saw a website the other day where Clydesdales are any male over 170. That can't be right. Is it?

 

[GStrot]

Did 3.5 miles this morning.

Not significant on its own because it is part of the training program. But, it was 3.5 miles that, when I started the run, I did not think I was going to do.

First, my wife had something this morning which meant I had to watch the kids and could not leave the house. I had to run on the treadmill despite near perfect weather outside or get up at 4:30 to run. I chose the former.

Second, I was feeling a bit "achey" from the 4 mile run on Sunday.

Third, I was a bit tired because one of the kids woke up in the middle of the night.

So, I had all my excuses lined up. I set the treadmill for 30 minutes and thought I would be happy with a couple of miles. I knew full well that I was supposed to run 3.5.

Well, I kept hitting milestones and I kept feeling good and I kept running. 1 mile, 15 minutes, 2 miles, 20 minutes, 3 miles, done.

Part of me knew I had to come in here and report in (well, I guess I didn't have to) and part of me knew it was the right thing to do.

Really sort of a breakthrough for me.

I was actually checking out the Chicago Area Runners Association website trying to figure out what my next race was going to be realizing I have to get through this 10k first.

 

[gruecd]

I saw a website the other day where Clydesdales are any male over 170. That can't be right. Is it?

No, it's usually males over 200lbs.

 

[El Floppo]

I saw a website the other day where Clydesdales are any male over 170. That can't be right. Is it?

No, it's usually males over 200lbs.

I thought it was anybody who's running outfit made them look fat. No?

 

[GStrot]

I saw a website the other day where Clydesdales are any male over 170. That can't be right. Is it?

No, it's usually males over 200lbs.

That would seem to make the most sense. http://running.about.com/od/arunnersglossa...clydesgloss.htm

"Clydesdale Defined"

From Jesslyn Cummings,

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Definition: The Clydesdale Division in running is for male runners who are over a certain weight. Unfortunately that weight is not completely standardized. In some places, the minimum weight for a Clydesdale division runner is 165 lbs. The International Triathlon Union (ITU) Technical Commission, on the other hand, states that a Clydesdale athlete must be at least 198 lbs. Most races advertise the weight requirement for Clydes divisions on the race sign up. Otherwise, it's a good idea to ask.

Pronunciation: kliez-dale

Also Known As: Clydes

Examples: Team Clydesdale is a force to be reckoned with for any serious competitors in the Clydesdale division of racing.

Here is where I saw 170...

http://orik.com/runbig/#What%20is%20a%20Clydesdale

RunBig Chicago weight divisions for road races match the catagories established in 1993 for the

Chicago Area Runner's Association (CARA) Clydesdale circuit:

Age and Weight Divisions (open and masters)

MEN - A (170-184) B (185-199) C (200-224) D (225+ lbs.)

WOMEN - A (135-144) B (145-154) C (155-169) D (170+ lbs.)

Regardles of the specific weight divisions, any race which recognizes Clydesdale athletes and offers weight division competion is applauded for the recognition given to the larger athletes who are competing in the event.

 

[GStrot]

I saw a website the other day where Clydesdales are any male over 170. That can't be right. Is it?

No, it's usually males over 200lbs.

I thought it was anybody who's running outfit made them look fat. No?

This may make the most sense.do these compression pants make my ### look big?

 

[gruecd]

I saw a website the other day where Clydesdales are any male over 170. That can't be right. Is it?

No, it's usually males over 200lbs.

I thought it was anybody who's running outfit made them look fat. No?

I assure you that if you saw me, you'd agree that I don't look fat. Grr.

 

[RustyFA]

DPhan - nice tempo run! You'll definitely be ready for your 5K.Rusty - Before the training gears up in early June, I'd offer two suggestions. First, I'd suggest breaking the 4 mile runs by mixing in some speed work to improve your striding (quarter miles or half miles) and/or popping a few longer runs to build confidence. Second, I'd encourage you to do some structured, regular strength training. You've got a nice window here for a couple of months until the running starts to build later in June. I keep beating the drum for a steady routine of pushups and situps/etc. each week. In particular, lunge steps will help with the hips and butt. That, along with one or two pure weight workouts, will pay off later in the summer. All in all, though, you have to be excited for the summer training! You'll be surprised with the steady development throughout the summer. It'll be fun to follow it here in this thread.

Thanks tri-man. I get in 100 sit up type reps 5 days a week and do push ups now and again. I know I can get 40 and think I could probably get 55 to 60 but have to be careful with my shoulder. I tore my rotator cuff when I was serious with weight lifting. For 6 months I would wake up in the middle of the night in pain. Now I am much more aware of my limits. My upper body looks and is strong. My lower half is my weaker point. I am trying to strengthen my core with the crunches etc. I will start doing the lunges tommorow after my run. 20 a day alright? I have done 7 miles a half dozen times. My group of 4 has 3 new runners and 1 guy that ran a marathon incollege 15 years ago. We are just concerned wth pushing ourselves too soon and getting hurt. I don't care about time so much, I just want to run the whole way and FINISH!!!I am going camping starting tommorow night so I will get a run in Friday am and Sunday am by the lake. That will be nice. Thanks for all the advice.

 

[RustyFA]

I wanted to throw this out there. How do I keep the muscle I have while running? I won't say I am buff but I have a fair amount of muscle. I am worried that I am going to run it off. Should I take protein and creatine? I am perfectly fine at my current 175 at 5'10". Thanks guys. I will read any response around Monday night.

Nice job on the weight loss.

 

[Poppa]

I wanted to throw this out there. How do I keep the muscle I have while running? I won't say I am buff but I have a fair amount of muscle. I am worried that I am going to run it off. Should I take protein and creatine? I am perfectly fine at my current 175 at 5'10". Thanks guys. I will read any response around Monday night.

Nice job on the weight loss.

I mix protein powder with gatorade powder - so I can control the "strength" of each - into an old 64oz gatorade container. I don't go anywhere without it - drinking a couple a day...throughout the day. When I'm actually running - that's what's in my Camelbak.Don't know what percentage "plus" this gives me...physiologically, actually...but, psychologically it's a great boost! Makes me Superman...

ETA: "Hot water" the powder first...so it'll dissolve thoroughly!

 

[El Floppo]

I wanted to throw this out there. How do I keep the muscle I have while running? I won't say I am buff but I have a fair amount of muscle. I am worried that I am going to run it off. Should I take protein and creatine? I am perfectly fine at my current 175 at 5'10". Thanks guys. I will read any response around Monday night.

Nice job on the weight loss.

I mix protein powder with gatorade powder - so I can control the "strength" of each - into an old 64oz gatorade container. I don't go anywhere without it - drinking a couple a day...throughout the day. When I'm actually running - that's what's in my Camelbak.Don't know what percentage "plus" this gives me...physiologically, actually...but, psychologically it's a great boost! Makes me Superman...

ETA: "Hot water" the powder first...so it'll dissolve thoroughly!

Have you tried Accelerade? Has the protein right in the mix, saves you a step.

 

[RoarinSonoran]

Have you tried Accelerade? Has the protein right in the mix, saves you a step.

The Fruit Punch flavor is putrid. Lemonade was palatable. Seemed thick like there was actual pulp in it. lolI train with my old standby Gatorade, but PFC and CMM (and likely the rest of the races I'll be in) now have Accelerade as their "official drink".

 

[Dash]

 

[El Floppo]

Have you tried Accelerade? Has the protein right in the mix, saves you a step.

The Fruit Punch flavor is putrid. Lemonade was palatable. Seemed thick like there was actual pulp in it. lolI train with my old standby Gatorade, but PFC and CMM (and likely the rest of the races I'll be in) now have Accelerade as their "official drink".

The straight up Gatorade, or Endurance? I'm a heavy salt sweater, so I need more giddy-up in electroyltes than the normal Gatorade. Accelerade's claim was some kind of 4:1 carb/protein (IIRC) ratio that was supposed to help with recovery. Definitely helped me with longer workouts- but I can't really speak to it's recovery magic (and I also used Endurox, their post-workout, more protein, drink)Yeah- Fruit Punch Accelerade is really awful. Lemon's ok- I've been using the Orange flavor for years now- but I'm pretty sure that stuff would taste terrible to me if I was starting fresh. I ended up with a combo of Accelerade, Carbo Pro and AminoVitale for the longer workouts/races- a good combo of what I needed in terms of calories, electrolytes and taste. Of course, at this point I can't go more than 40 minutes at anything, so it doesn't matter what I'm drinking.