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You can set a clock by my wide's 10-minute mile pace, but she blew out a 45:09 and was 5th in her age group.
Did I mention there was free beer? I am the king of typos without it! It was certanly not a Freudian Slip.gruecd said:2Young2BBald said:You can set a clock by my wide's 10-minute mile pace, but she blew out a 45:09 and was 5th in her age group.I'd highly suggest not letting your WIFE see this!!!
For a non-trained for run, don't beat yourself up. Great to hear that your son and wife both had great races. You also learned that cross-training does not equal training. Congrat's for "just doing it" and to your family and friend who get to boast that they had a better day than you. Get them back by kicking ### on your tri!
"Just" a sprint. 500M Swim, 20K Bike & 5K run. I'd like to look at the Olympic distance in the future, but it baby steps for me on the swimming.El Floppo said:For a non-trained for run, don't beat yourself up. Great to hear that your son and wife both had great races. You also learned that cross-training does not equal training. Congrat's for "just doing it" and to your family and friend who get to boast that they had a better day than you. Get them back by kicking ### on your tri!Not every race should be your "A" race. And this one- last minute and a few weeks before the Tri- is most definitlely not one of those. I also have a hard time racing at night- my training was always set to match morning race-starts... getting the body to race after a full day of work/eating etc is brutal (at least for me)<>What distance tri are you doing?
The 705 can take the maps and will display them for car driving. It's not the best thing to have saftey wise as the screen is small, but it's really helped me out on longer trips and going to strange places and once you get used to using it you learn how to get it to display the directions in a concise manner.Also the 705 takes data from several power meters which can come in handy for the racer boys as well as the cadence/speed like the 305. It's also got numerous settings for following a course, your history, prior workouts etc. and can tell you where you are in front/behind your goals. It was really nice to be able to tell where we stood at certain times and keep track of our splits as time went on during the big rides. There are some strange software quirks that I wish they'd fix, but nearly all of them have a resonable workaround. Most people say either get the 305 or the 705. The 605 is a waste of time and is nothing more (I think) than a 305 with a bigger screen. Don't sue me if I'm wrong on that. tiaPigskins & Culdeus: which Garmin units are each of you using? Any significant negatives to the units you use?
Thanks to both of you. Sounds like the 705 is the item to save for and hopefully the cost comes down a bit while I save. The real-time map features are what I thought was missing from the 305 and the ability to do in-car directions or time-to-destination features are things I'd want. But that extra $$$ is too much to justify right now and wasn't planned for...So now my cycling/hobbies related savings goals include money for a fancy-shmancy Edge 705 with HR & Cadence and a personal LT test. Maybe I should start working at that second job again...The 705 can take the maps and will display them for car driving. It's not the best thing to have saftey wise as the screen is small, but it's really helped me out on longer trips and going to strange places and once you get used to using it you learn how to get it to display the directions in a concise manner.Also the 705 takes data from several power meters which can come in handy for the racer boys as well as the cadence/speed like the 305. It's also got numerous settings for following a course, your history, prior workouts etc. and can tell you where you are in front/behind your goals. It was really nice to be able to tell where we stood at certain times and keep track of our splits as time went on during the big rides. There are some strange software quirks that I wish they'd fix, but nearly all of them have a resonable workaround. Most people say either get the 305 or the 705. The 605 is a waste of time and is nothing more (I think) than a 305 with a bigger screen. Don't sue me if I'm wrong on that. tiaPigskins & Culdeus: which Garmin units are each of you using? Any significant negatives to the units you use?
Like you said, keep the expectations low. You really can't add any physical preparation at this point. Running the distance (slowly!) will help mentally. Just enjoy the race. Find a hot female to follow and enjoy the view.2Young - tough race for you, but sounds like a great event for your family. I like hearing about your son's running! What a great example you're setting for him.bentley said:Any of you other dudes running the Nike Human Race 10K on Sunday night? I just let someone talk me into it today. I've cut back on running and started weightlifting the last few weeks to try and add some muscle, so I haven't run more than four miles at a stretch in a couple months. My one training session plan is to get in seven miles tomorrow after work to get the feel back for the distance (Austin start time on Sunday is 6:30 p.m.) and to set my expectations low. Any other advice?
Yeah. I looked at it as a GPS unit AND a cycling unit. I needed both so it came along at the right time. If you have the need for just one or the other then no need to combine because there isn't much of a price break for getting the two bundled and the GPS side comes with some compromises. Make no mistake it's a cycling computer first.Thanks to both of you. Sounds like the 705 is the item to save for and hopefully the cost comes down a bit while I save. The real-time map features are what I thought was missing from the 305 and the ability to do in-car directions or time-to-destination features are things I'd want. But that extra $$$ is too much to justify right now and wasn't planned for...So now my cycling/hobbies related savings goals include money for a fancy-shmancy Edge 705 with HR & Cadence and a personal LT test. Maybe I should start working at that second job again...The 705 can take the maps and will display them for car driving. It's not the best thing to have saftey wise as the screen is small, but it's really helped me out on longer trips and going to strange places and once you get used to using it you learn how to get it to display the directions in a concise manner.Also the 705 takes data from several power meters which can come in handy for the racer boys as well as the cadence/speed like the 305. It's also got numerous settings for following a course, your history, prior workouts etc. and can tell you where you are in front/behind your goals. It was really nice to be able to tell where we stood at certain times and keep track of our splits as time went on during the big rides. There are some strange software quirks that I wish they'd fix, but nearly all of them have a resonable workaround. Most people say either get the 305 or the 705. The 605 is a waste of time and is nothing more (I think) than a 305 with a bigger screen. Don't sue me if I'm wrong on that. tiaPigskins & Culdeus: which Garmin units are each of you using? Any significant negatives to the units you use?
My wife & I are VERY lucky to have 2 kids that like to keep active. My son had a water gun, slip & slide, water ballon themed birthday party earlier this summer. We have group photo up of him and his buddies and its really sad to see, to be frank, how fat most of these kids are. It may embarrass the heck out of my kids when they are older, but its way up there on my life to-do list to cross a 1/2 marathon finish line hand in hand as a family (although we may have to settle for a 10K and a slow one for my daughter).2Young - tough race for you, but sounds like a great event for your family. I like hearing about your son's running! What a great example you're setting for him.
7 miles in 1:01:42 tonight. Maybe I won't die on Sunday.Any of you other dudes running the Nike Human Race 10K on Sunday night? I just let someone talk me into it today. I've cut back on running and started weightlifting the last few weeks to try and add some muscle, so I haven't run more than four miles at a stretch in a couple months. My one training session plan is to get in seven miles tomorrow after work to get the feel back for the distance (Austin start time on Sunday is 6:30 p.m.) and to set my expectations low. Any other advice?
Anybody heard from darren or SteveUK in the past few months? Seems like those two dropped off the face.
But that's good stuff!!culdeus said:Worst time of year for me. I think I'll just commute for awhile. I like to workout with a focus of some sort. I guess if I have no focus I can focus on just saving gas and wear and tear on the car.
It's entirely possible I won't do a major event until 2010. I think I'm going to do my World Climbing Tour starting then. Also have some unfinished business in LaGrange. Until then just treasure every free second I can. Probably pull my daughter in the trailer a lot more in the fall. That sort of stuff.
Sorry, man.My come-back got nipped in the bud (temporarily) by a flame up in and around my left ankle- same ankle that gave me problems during my IM training, but now in a different place (achilles area). Sorry state of affairs to have half a dozen runs no more than 3.5 miles put me into trouble.My knee is still messed up. It will be two weeks Monday since I went out. I am eating Ibuprofen like m&ms.![]()
Oh for sure.But that's good stuff!!culdeus said:Worst time of year for me. I think I'll just commute for awhile. I like to workout with a focus of some sort. I guess if I have no focus I can focus on just saving gas and wear and tear on the car.
It's entirely possible I won't do a major event until 2010. I think I'm going to do my World Climbing Tour starting then. Also have some unfinished business in LaGrange. Until then just treasure every free second I can. Probably pull my daughter in the trailer a lot more in the fall. That sort of stuff.
Sorry to hear about the injury problems, guys. Actually, there must be something going around, because I woke up this morning, and the ankle that I sprained almost six weeks ago--the one that had been feeling almost perfect lately--was sore as hell. I don't know if I slept with my foot turned the wrong way or what, but it really hurt. I don't know if I'm stubborn or tough or stupid (or some combination of the three), but I still managed to complete my 2-hour, zone 1 run at 8:13 pace. I limped through the first half mile or so, and then it loosened up to the point where it was more bearable. It was pretty sore this morning, but it felt better as the day went on, and what's really weird is that now it feels almost normal again. WTF?!!Anyway, planning on another hour at a similar pace tomorrow morning, so we'll see how it feels. Goodnight, all.Sorry, man.My come-back got nipped in the bud (temporarily) by a flame up in and around my left ankle- same ankle that gave me problems during my IM training, but now in a different place (achilles area).My knee is still messed up. It will be two weeks Monday since I went out. I am eating Ibuprofen like m&ms. :(
Followed up yesterday's 2-hour run with an hour this morning at 8:09 average pace. I was supposed to run 8:15s, but I had a hard time holding myself back, even despite the fact that it was warm and quite humid outside this morning. Ankle felt better than yesterday, but still not as good as it had been feeling. But at least it doesn't appear to be any major setback.Anyway, planning on another hour at a similar pace tomorrow morning, so we'll see how it feels.
2Young, I LOVE hearing of your tri-progress! Concerning the bike - it would be hard to make a beneficial change at this late point. Do you at least have stirrup pedals that give you better grip? My 'wide' and I will be visiting friends in Va Beach on the weekend of the 13th. I'm catching a 5K down there. But I'll be itching to hear your race report!!
Good, hard week for me - almost too hard.
Tues - 6 mile run with two 1/4-mile long striders at the end; Wed - 40 min swim; Thurs - 8 mile moderate run; Friday am - hour bike; Friday pm - 5 miles with mile repeats; Sat - 2 hr bike; Sun - 8 mile run with some hills.
Took Friday pm off work and hit the track. Did three repeat miles at 6:30/pace with an easy lap in between. But it was about 90 degrees and sunny, so I was getting cooked and verrrry tired. Last mile was a real challenge to maintain distance and pace. Ouch.
PSL, thank you for the link!! I read the whole darn thing and almost bumped it, it was so good (Tri-Man had some great stuff as always & Joe had a couple of great posts). For kicks, lets pretend I did go out and get a bike, lets call it Fuji Roubaix with straps instead of clips. What would be the best way to acclimate myself to this bike?2Young, I LOVE hearing of your tri-progress! Concerning the bike - it would be hard to make a beneficial change at this late point. Do you at least have stirrup pedals that give you better grip? My 'wide' and I will be visiting friends in Va Beach on the weekend of the 13th. I'm catching a 5K down there. But I'll be itching to hear your race report!!Great to hear how the training is going 2Young! Unless the course is really hilly, don't worry about a change this late in the game. 2Young: Here's the post that I started for my first tri (just over two years ago). I received great advice in the thread, that you might find useful. Post 26 has my race report, which might help you avoid some of the stuff I screwed up as a rookie. Looking very forward to your race report!
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PSL, thank you for the link!! I read the whole darn thing and almost bumped it, it was so good (Tri-Man had some great stuff as always & Joe had a couple of great posts). For kicks, lets pretend I did go out and get a bike, lets call it Fuji Roubaix with straps instead of clips. What would be the best way to acclimate myself to this bike?2Young, I LOVE hearing of your tri-progress! Concerning the bike - it would be hard to make a beneficial change at this late point. Do you at least have stirrup pedals that give you better grip? My 'wide' and I will be visiting friends in Va Beach on the weekend of the 13th. I'm catching a 5K down there. But I'll be itching to hear your race report!!Great to hear how the training is going 2Young! Unless the course is really hilly, don't worry about a change this late in the game. 2Young: Here's the post that I started for my first tri (just over two years ago). I received great advice in the thread, that you might find useful. Post 26 has my race report, which might help you avoid some of the stuff I screwed up as a rookie. Looking very forward to your race report!
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BTW, I am quite sure I would have not even tried this, this year without the help and support I get here!
PSL, thank you for the link!! I read the whole darn thing and almost bumped it, it was so good (Tri-Man had some great stuff as always & Joe had a couple of great posts). For kicks, lets pretend I did go out and get a bike, lets call it Fuji Roubaix with straps instead of clips. What would be the best way to acclimate myself to this bike?2Young, I LOVE hearing of your tri-progress! Concerning the bike - it would be hard to make a beneficial change at this late point. Do you at least have stirrup pedals that give you better grip? My 'wide' and I will be visiting friends in Va Beach on the weekend of the 13th. I'm catching a 5K down there. But I'll be itching to hear your race report!!Great to hear how the training is going 2Young! Unless the course is really hilly, don't worry about a change this late in the game. 2Young: Here's the post that I started for my first tri (just over two years ago). I received great advice in the thread, that you might find useful. Post 26 has my race report, which might help you avoid some of the stuff I screwed up as a rookie. Looking very forward to your race report!
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BTW, I am quite sure I would have not even tried this, this year without the help and support I get here!![]()
Other than getting used to going a lot faster, with the same effort, not too much of an adjustment. The first ride I had with my tri-bike (going from the 15 yr. old mt. bike) was 3+ MPH faster than any ride I had had before. My only shock was that it took just as much effort (= it took just as much out of me). For some reason, I thought I'd feel less winded. Also, work on turns at speed, to find what lines work best for you, for in a tri, you are typically going balls out on every turn, and there's a good chance you'll have some congestion at turns (people will try to pass you on turns, and you will most likely be trying to pass during turns as well). Make sure you get a couple of rides on it to ensure a good fit, practice turns, and getting out of the pedals and you should be good to go. Also, practice your transitions to get acclimated to doing things in an orderly fashion after completing the swim and bike.edited to add: I blindly did my first tri with just a six weeks of training. You are going to be so ready for this thing!2Young2BBald said:For kicks, lets pretend I did go out and get a bike, lets call it Fuji Roubaix with straps instead of clips. What would be the best way to acclimate myself to this bike?
BTW, I am quite sure I would have not even tried this, this year without the help and support I get here!
I took'er for a test drive this morning. Among other things, I learned what not to do as I derailed the chain playing with the gears too much. I did learn that I can get out of the straps qucik and got the chain back on in seconds. I have to read up on the gears and find just a couple that are comfy for me. The speed difference is silly and I thought it was a heck of alot less effort, but it was only 7 miles. It was so quiet compared to the dinosaur I was riding. I thought the noise of the old bike was the tires on pavement, but I think there was just a lot of friction all over the bike.Other than getting used to going a lot faster, with the same effort, not too much of an adjustment. The first ride I had with my tri-bike (going from the 15 yr. old mt. bike) was 3+ MPH faster than any ride I had had before. My only shock was that it took just as much effort (= it took just as much out of me). For some reason, I thought I'd feel less winded. Also, work on turns at speed, to find what lines work best for you, for in a tri, you are typically going balls out on every turn, and there's a good chance you'll have some congestion at turns (people will try to pass you on turns, and you will most likely be trying to pass during turns as well). Make sure you get a couple of rides on it to ensure a good fit, practice turns, and getting out of the pedals and you should be good to go. Also, practice your transitions to get acclimated to doing things in an orderly fashion after completing the swim and bike.edited to add: I blindly did my first tri with just a six weeks of training. You are going to be so ready for this thing!2Young2BBald said:For kicks, lets pretend I did go out and get a bike, lets call it Fuji Roubaix with straps instead of clips. What would be the best way to acclimate myself to this bike?
BTW, I am quite sure I would have not even tried this, this year without the help and support I get here!
OK, now I'm pissed at myself.Here's what I've got on tap:
15 min w/u at 8:15 pace
10 min 6:55
3 min 8:15
8 min 6:55
3 min 8:15
7 min 6:55
14 min c/d 8:15
It's been two weeks??!??!!!Haven't heard anything from RS in a while. I know he's in the process of moving to Minnesota, but it'll be two weeks tomorrow since his last post in here. Less than eight weeks 'til our big relay race. I hope he's ready!
I am not so sure you are mentally weak. I don't know much, but I think your ankle is telling you its not quite right. No matter how strong your mind is, if your body is not willing it doesn't matter. Why don't you consult your coach or a doc to determine if a short rest would do you some good in the long run? If you have a bum wheel you know you are doing more damage to it and its slowing you down. Just myOK, now I'm pissed at myself.Here's what I've got on tap:
15 min w/u at 8:15 pace
10 min 6:55
3 min 8:15
8 min 6:55
3 min 8:15
7 min 6:55
14 min c/d 8:15I honestly didn't feel like getting out of bed at all this morning, but I'm going straight from work to the Brewers game tonight, so I knew that I didn't have a choice. Did the warm-up and the first LT interval without much trouble, but I was sucking wind pretty bad towards the end of the second one. To make a long story short, I ended up
'ing and doing the balance of the run at 8:15 pace (skipping the last interval). It was warm and humid out there (70° and 70%+ humidity), and I honestly think that I would've puked if I'd attempted it--but I still wish that I would've tried. Just upset with myself for being mentally weak. Final line--7.76 miles at 7:44 average pace.
It's not the ankle. My ankle feels close to 100%. It's just that it was super humid outside, and I was running at my Lactate Threshold, which is difficult to start with. That type of workout is always mentally challenging; it's just that I lost the battle yesterday.I am not so sure you are mentally weak. I don't know much, but I think your ankle is telling you its not quite right. No matter how strong your mind is, if your body is not willing it doesn't matter. Why don't you consult your coach or a doc to determine if a short rest would do you some good in the long run? If you have a bum wheel you know you are doing more damage to it and its slowing you down. Just my.
Great weather for running.The cool temps and rains that is the fallout of Gustav have settled on Madison today; a long walk will feel great tomorrow.
Thanks!! If I could ask for a few cents more, THIS has me freaked out a bit. Its the swim map for the event. If I am reading this right, it looks like their goal is to have all (3) races "collide" in the long stretch and the turn for home. Is this your read, or are they trying to time it out so the sprint group is behind the olympic group and the olympic group is behind the 1/2 ironman? If you think they are chucking us all together, would it be better to hug the bouys or head out a bit in open space? It wont make a difference in the final chute.My .02
That ending does look pretty hanky. Assuming an average time of 10 minutes per 500k and that the final chute is approx. half (though it's a little less), each wave (on average) should hit the shoot at:Thanks!! If I could ask for a few cents more, THIS has me freaked out a bit. Its the swim map for the event. If I am reading this right, it looks like their goal is to have all (3) races "collide" in the long stretch and the turn for home. Is this your read, or are they trying to time it out so the sprint group is behind the olympic group and the olympic group is behind the 1/2 ironman? If you think they are chucking us all together, would it be better to hug the bouys or head out a bit in open space? It wont make a difference in the final chute.My .02
They are expecting 500 folks so I'll expect a cluster. As for smooth & rythmic, I think I am sort of smooth and very rythmic. In fact, this is where I think swimming clicked for me this summer, when I could get a song in my head and swim to it to slow myself down. Now, got any tricks to get the wetsuit off my calves faster? I can power it off the rest of my body, but I guess I have freakishly large calves 'cuz its a bear to get off this last part (overnight lows are supposed to be in the mid 40s, so I am wearing the suit for sure). I also went and bought tri pants as the running shorts were not cutting it on the bike and I rather not moon the crowd when taking off the wetsuit. Man I look like a dope in the tri pants, but after swimming, biking and running in them, I like the way the fit, feel and work.pigskinliquors said:That ending does look pretty hanky. Assuming an average time of 10 minutes per 500k and that the final chute is approx. half (though it's a little less), each wave (on average) should hit the shoot at:Thanks!! If I could ask for a few cents more, THIS has me freaked out a bit. Its the swim map for the event. If I am reading this right, it looks like their goal is to have all (3) races "collide" in the long stretch and the turn for home. Is this your read, or are they trying to time it out so the sprint group is behind the olympic group and the olympic group is behind the 1/2 ironman? If you think they are chucking us all together, would it be better to hug the bouys or head out a bit in open space? It wont make a difference in the final chute.My .02
Half: at 8:35
Olympic: at 8:50
Sprint: at 8:55
As a spectator it should be great, but it will most likely be quite congested coming in. Go very wide of the buoys as the turn into that chute will be crowded. No matter how small the race is (I don't have any clue how big this one is), this would be a cluster.
Go out slow for the first 50, find your bearings, site often and find a way to get a smooth stroke going. You will most likely take in some water. When this happens don't panic, just catch your breath, and get back at it. It is really easy to go out too fast on the swim. Think smooth, and rhythmic.
Really excited for you, gb- you%re going to do great!They are expecting 500 folks so I%ll expect a cluster. As for smooth & rythmic, I think I am sort of smooth and very rythmic. In fact, this is where I think swimming clicked for me this summer, when I could get a song in my head and swim to it to slow myself down. Now, got any tricks to get the wetsuit off my calves faster? I can power it off the rest of my body, but I guess I have freakishly large calves %cuz its a bear to get off this last part (overnight lows are supposed to be in the mid 40s, so I am wearing the suit for sure). I also went and bought tri pants as the running shorts were not cutting it on the bike and I rather not moon the crowd when taking off the wetsuit. Man I look like a dope in the tri pants, but after swimming, biking and running in them, I like the way the fit, feel and work.That ending does look pretty hanky. Assuming an average time of 10 minutes per 500k and that the final chute is approx. half (though it%s a little less), each wave (on average) should hit the shoot at:Thanks!! If I could ask for a few cents more, THIS has me freaked out a bit. Its the swim map for the event. If I am reading this right, it looks like their goal is to have all (3) races "collide" in the long stretch and the turn for home. Is this your read, or are they trying to time it out so the sprint group is behind the olympic group and the olympic group is behind the 1/2 ironman? If you think they are chucking us all together, would it be better to hug the bouys or head out a bit in open space? It wont make a difference in the final chute.My .02
Half: at 8:35
Olympic: at 8:50
Sprint: at 8:55
As a spectator it should be great, but it will most likely be quite congested coming in. Go very wide of the buoys as the turn into that chute will be crowded. No matter how small the race is (I don%t have any clue how big this one is), this would be a cluster.
Go out slow for the first 50, find your bearings, site often and find a way to get a smooth stroke going. You will most likely take in some water. When this happens don%t panic, just catch your breath, and get back at it. It is really easy to go out too fast on the swim. Think smooth, and rhythmic.