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Ran a 10k in June (5 Viewers)
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bentley
Footballguy
This is the kind of dedication we all need. Bravo to you, gruecd.
Maybe you should try stalking the fast chicks next race...
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
I did day 1 week 3 of cp25k today. I ran for 3 mins straight and I wanted to let out a string of words that would make Clark Griswold blush. I saw the neighbor kids were out so I refrained. My legs are hurting but I made it. I used to worry about running to fast. I now think I may be going to slow. I am hoping I figure out a good pace soon. It is annoying always wondering what speed I am running.
Looking forward to pics from gruecd of the girls.
Looking forward to pics from gruecd of the girls.
gruecd
Footballguy
I did stalk the fast chicks. Maybe next time I should try stalking the chicks who aren't so fast so I don't crash and burn again....Maybe you should try stalking the fast chicks next race...
Harris
Footballguy
Race report?Also Grue, have you thought about running Grandma's this year? Depending on how my knee is doing I'm going to try and be qualifying for Boston and it would be cool to push each other during the race. Just a thought...I did stalk the fast chicks. Maybe next time I should try stalking the chicks who aren't so fast so I don't crash and burn again....Maybe you should try stalking the fast chicks next race...
gruecd
Footballguy
Hmmm.....
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
The Mrs & I have the the 201. You can get them reconditioned on eBay with a 1yr warranty for around $90.00. For tris, I use both and use one on the bike and change it from minute/mile to MPH. I then use the other one for the run. Even the 201s have the pace/time alarm, history, etc.
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
atta boy,
Harris
Footballguy
Oof. Knee sore today...back to biking as a warm-up the rest of the week. This might take some getting used to.Just got back from lifting and ran my first mile after surgery for a warmup!No pain!
gruecd
Footballguy
Sorry to hear that. I'll let you know about Grandma's. Everything kinda hinges on whether or not I get the sponsor's exemption for Boston. If I do run Boston, I definitely will not be doing Grandma's two months later. If I don't run Boston, then it's a possibility, but I'd have to start training in mid February when it's still pretty crappy outside, and I'm not 100% sure how I feel about that. Like I said yesterday, might just stick with half marathons this spring and then train hard for another BQ attempt this fall. I'll keep you posted....Oof. Knee sore today...back to biking as a warm-up the rest of the week. This might take some getting used to.Just got back from lifting and ran my first mile after surgery for a warmup!
Decided this would be the week to start working on it so I could be ready to train by mid-Feb and ran 1 mile at a 10:00 pace. Not out of breath or anything, just a nice easy mile on the treadmill. I do wish I had my HR monitor on, but oh well. No pain, just giddiness to start training!
pigskinliquors
Dr. Parrothead
You're back! Congrat's on the surgery! I just saw your update = some pain. You have to expect that, but talk with your doctor if anything feels out of the ordinary.Just got back from lifting and ran my first mile after surgery for a warmup!
Fantastic run Bentley! Typically long runs are run SLOWER than expected pace, not faster. You are more than ready, and should most likely look at changing your race goal.
Still waitinggruecd said:
Tri-Man has completed the program. I had planned on starting this week, but am going to wait a week. I lifted way too much on Saturday, and can still barely lift my arms over my head. I planned on starting on week 3 = we should be synced next week. FYI: Looking at the finishing times at Houston, I don't think I could have won the race. Ethiopia’s Deriba Merga ran a 2:07:52 (4:52 per mile pace), which I don't think I could have kept up with.Harris said:
Harris
Footballguy
No biggie, you might be missing out on some hotties while couch surfing though. I like this one.She looks funSorry to hear that. I'll let you know about Grandma's. Everything kinda hinges on whether or not I get the sponsor's exemption for Boston. If I do run Boston, I definitely will not be doing Grandma's two months later. If I don't run Boston, then it's a possibility, but I'd have to start training in mid February when it's still pretty crappy outside, and I'm not 100% sure how I feel about that. Like I said yesterday, might just stick with half marathons this spring and then train hard for another BQ attempt this fall. I'll keep you posted....Oof. Knee sore today...back to biking as a warm-up the rest of the week. This might take some getting used to.Just got back from lifting and ran my first mile after surgery for a warmup!No pain!
Decided this would be the week to start working on it so I could be ready to train by mid-Feb and ran 1 mile at a 10:00 pace. Not out of breath or anything, just a nice easy mile on the treadmill. I do wish I had my HR monitor on, but oh well. No pain, just giddiness to start training!
tri-man 47
Footballguy
We've had some other recent posts regarding push-ups and core training ...and also regarding issues such as sore calf muscles. I believe a strong core routine built around push-ups and also sit-ups (and all the variations thereon) is very beneficial and particularly important as we get older (like ..me). I started a commitment to this 3 1/2 years ago, targeting 450-500 reps per week. I believe it has helped to keep me flexible and helped to prevent injuries and tight muscles. Push-ups do more than just build upper body muscles. They help shape muscles without adding much bulk ...I think they help with a lot of smaller muscles throughout the body (through the core and down to the legs). Add in the sit-ups, etc., and you really add to your overall fitness.I did that push-up challenge and was able to hit 100, though my normal reps are in sets of 30-50. In addition to sit-ups, you can add our favorite - lunges. But any number of stretches can be done to address the abs, obliques, lower back, hips, and legs. One favorite of mine is to stand on one leg in a superman-like pose. I really feel the leg muscles, down through the ankles and feet, working to retain the balance. A new variation I've added is to rotate from that position by slowly bending and swinging the back leg forward and up and moving the arms out to my side while squatting slightly with the planted leg (like Karate Kid). I'll rotate back and forth between the two positions.Harris said:
gruecd
Footballguy
Patience, young Jedi. The pictures aren't even out yet....Still waitinggruecd said:
gruecd
Footballguy
This is the first I've ever heard of CouchSurfing. Crazy. So let me get this straight. Young, good-looking, single girls are willing to let guys they've never met before crash on their couches?? Wow. I think I might send this Alisa a friend request on Facebook and tell her that a buddy and I are thinking about running Grandma's this summer and asking if we could maybe crash there with her and her roommate!!
Harris
Footballguy
This is the first I've ever heard of CouchSurfing. Crazy. So let me get this straight. Young, good-looking, single girls are willing to let guys they've never met before crash on their couches?? Wow. I think I might send this Alisa a friend request on Facebook and tell her that a buddy and I are thinking about running Grandma's this summer and asking if we could maybe crash there with her and her roommate!!
I've never used couch surfing before, only had heard about it and planned on using it for races. So far after 5 marathons I haven't needed to, but I'm gonna request her couch for marathon weekend (Friday/Saturday).
pigskinliquors
Dr. Parrothead
I have had students (undergraduates) use this with good success for many road trips. I can't imagine anything going wrong with this plan! For some reason, this reminded me of this Seinfeld episode.This is the first I've ever heard of CouchSurfing. Crazy. So let me get this straight. Young, good-looking, single girls are willing to let guys they've never met before crash on their couches?? Wow. I think I might send this Alisa a friend request on Facebook and tell her that a buddy and I are thinking about running Grandma's this summer and asking if we could maybe crash there with her and her roommate!!
Harris
Footballguy
I have had students (undergraduates) use this with good success for many road trips. I can't imagine anything going wrong with this plan! For some reason, this reminded me of this Seinfeld episode.This is the first I've ever heard of CouchSurfing. Crazy. So let me get this straight. Young, good-looking, single girls are willing to let guys they've never met before crash on their couches?? Wow. I think I might send this Alisa a friend request on Facebook and tell her that a buddy and I are thinking about running Grandma's this summer and asking if we could maybe crash there with her and her roommate!!
I love that episode
gruecd
Footballguy
Make sure you tell her that there might be two of us. Otherwise I'm going to contact her and tell her to look out for this guy "Harris" who's an axe murderer!
Harris
Footballguy
Couch request sent. Awaiting reply I'm all about traveling for marathons if I get to stay with hot wimmens who are impressed by my running skills. 
gruecd
Footballguy
I just tell them that I have "stamina."
Harris
Footballguy
Obviously implied.I just tell them that I have "stamina."I'm all about traveling for marathons if I get to stay with hot wimmens who are impressed by my running skills.
FixedI just tell them that I used have "stamina."I'm all about traveling for marathons if I get to stay with hot wimmens who are impressed by my running skills.
pigskinliquors
Dr. Parrothead
Maybe you should try stalking the fast chicks next race...
You are en fuego!FixedI just tell them that I used have "stamina."I'm all about traveling for marathons if I get to stay with hot wimmens who are impressed by my running skills.
FWIW: Gruecd can still kick all our asses!
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gruecd
Footballguy
OK, bi-otch, it's on now!!!FixedI just tell them that I used have "stamina."I'm all about traveling for marathons if I get to stay with hot wimmens who are impressed by my running skills.
He'll never be able to catch me....................on my bike.............going downhill.Maybe you should try stalking the fast chicks next race...You are en fuego!FixedI just tell them that I used have "stamina."I'm all about traveling for marathons if I get to stay with hot wimmens who are impressed by my running skills.
That's the spirit!!!On a serious note. What does your coach have to say about these recent events? I been doing some coached training and think that sometimes she is trying to pound a square peg into a round hole. Obviously you had a formula that worked for you and made changes to improve upon the results. Based on your posts here, I think you were pretty diligent in following thru on the training. Being a larger guy, are you training differently that the flyweights? Did your coach account for your size in the training plans?OK, bi-otch, it's on now!!!FixedI just tell them that I used have "stamina."I'm all about traveling for marathons if I get to stay with hot wimmens who are impressed by my running skills.
gruecd
Footballguy
Everything was based on individualized lactate blood profile testing, so I'd have to say yes. That being said, I know somebody who knows the race director at Boston, and it looks like I probably will be running this April, and I'm going to be training sans-coach. Honestly, I can tell you right now what I'm probably gonna try to do at Boston. I'll run the first half at an easy 7:30 or 8:00 pace and then try to run negative splits.
Hope that works out for you. Was cool watching your updates live last year. 8 min splits the whole way is still less than 3:30.
gruecd
Footballguy
It's pretty much a done deal. And you're right. Running a 3:30 marathon is no big deal for me. Hell, 3:20 is relatively easy for me. The problem is that I want/need to run 3:10, and I pretty much need ideal running conditions to make that happen.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Size doesn't matter when you've got a young man's stamina.
Sorry to hear about the race results from this weekend. Still very impressed. A marathon at any pace is still an amazing feat.
My Update:
I ran 5 miles again this Sunday, but have not run since. I will be running tonight/Friday and Sunday again this week, and then moving to running 4 days a week starting next week. I plan to do pace runs on Tuesday and Friday. Speed work on Wednesday and my long run will fall on Sunday. I have not done speed work in the past, so we will see how it goes.
My Update:
I ran 5 miles again this Sunday, but have not run since. I will be running tonight/Friday and Sunday again this week, and then moving to running 4 days a week starting next week. I plan to do pace runs on Tuesday and Friday. Speed work on Wednesday and my long run will fall on Sunday. I have not done speed work in the past, so we will see how it goes.
Bankerguy
Footballguy
Would love any advice on cross training.
I want to run a fall marathon (but don't necessarily want to always run Marathon's). This might be weird but....I just want to run one marathon in a decent time 1 time to say "I did it". For cross training, the plan is incorporating 1 Spin class a week and weight training but I am struggling with how to balance this all and to maximize results. Not to mention what exercises to do to get max results for upper body and core specifically
Can you guys share your Cross Training plans or any ideas/insight?
I want to run a fall marathon (but don't necessarily want to always run Marathon's). This might be weird but....I just want to run one marathon in a decent time 1 time to say "I did it". For cross training, the plan is incorporating 1 Spin class a week and weight training but I am struggling with how to balance this all and to maximize results. Not to mention what exercises to do to get max results for upper body and core specifically
Can you guys share your Cross Training plans or any ideas/insight?
Good question! As I ran this morning I was just thinking the same thing. I bartend two nights a week....so I'm on my feet, basically walking back and forth, for about 7 hours. Could this be considered "cross training?" My guess is that this would not be an intense enough workout.
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Harris
Footballguy
Skip the weight training, won't really help you for a marathon. If you are just running a marathon and then stopping, start weight training after you are done running, you'll see better results.
Bankerguy
Footballguy
So, I have to focus on one or other then? -If I run and marathon train, I won't likely gain muscle in my upper body?or-If I gain muscle in my upper body, I won't run as well?This seems overly complicated or I just don't "get it".
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Harris
Footballguy
Well...you don't HAVE to focus on one or the other....but it would be to your benefit to not do both at the same time.If you are looking for max results for upper body strength training AND looking to run one decent marathon time, I would start weight training now. For a fall marathon with 18 weeks of training I would put your training time to start around June. Why not weight train hard now until May or so and then focus on running?
The reason it will be hard to see good results and weight train at the same time is due to calories. When you run, and train hard as you will have to do to get the decent time that you want, you are going to be burning a ton of calories. Some of my long runs I burn about 3000 calories or more. You will need to be eating like crazy when you are in training in order to not be tired, maintain weight and nutrition, and keep healthy.
When you lift weights to get results, you don't necessarily burn as many calories when you lift, but when you are recovering your body also needs a caloric excess to grow muscle. If you lift weights and don't eat anything, your body will start to feed on itself in order to recover. Not good. It needs food to grow.
Doing both of these at the same time will simply require you to eat way too much in order to stay healthy and not get sick. Try lifting now and eating a caloric excess to get a bigger upper body. Then when you are running just eat as many calories as you burn to not lose as much weight. You will lose muscle when you run no doubt, but not as much if you eat a ton.
Bottom line is, after years of tinkering with training schedules and trying to do it all, I find it MUCH easier to make your training simpler for maximum results. Trying to do too many things at once only leads to burnout and that is not something you want while training for your first marathon.
Bankerguy
Footballguy
My apologies if I sounded curt. Not my intention.I have a habit of also not always explaining myself very well.
Right now I want to run to keep a good running base for heavier training (marathon) later on in May/June as you suggested. This is why I'll only run 3 times/week with two shorter mid week runs and 1 longer run on the weekend. So, I want to try and build the muscle now while I'm not running a ton.
Thanks for the eating advice. I would have messed that up as I have been eating only about 1900-2200 cal/day. I guess I am still learning about the right diet/exercise to max results. I'll fully admit I'm not the most patient person either-I want the info yesterday and have been frustarated with the mixed answers I've found on the internet.
Much appreciated for taking the time to write all of that
Harris
Footballguy
I'm coming off surgery an am lifting weights right now to get strength as well. I hope to ditch all weight training and focus on running/biking/swimming in mid-Feb. After almost two months I have gained 17-18 pounds eating around 4000-5000 Cal/day. I drink a gallon of milk per day. I have a pretty high basal metabolic rate so it takes a lot for me to gain weight, but anyone will need to eat a lot in order to grow muscle. The growth has to come from somewhere and if it's from your own body, nothing will really happen. It just takes a lot to weight train and seriously run at the same time, but some light running during the week is nothing to worry about. Just make sure that you can do the first week's long run of your plan with ease before you start your serious training. If the first week's long run is 8 miles, just work on building up to that and make sure you can do that feeling comfortable at a low heart rate.
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
Paging Tri-Man. As predicited, we have an opening on our 5-man 100K Ultra Relay Team for September. If you are still interested, the spot is yours (if we win a lottery spot). Please PM me or reply here to let me know if you are in so I don't need to look for someone else. I wont know until 3/7 if we have a spot, but think we have a very good chance. They have some squirrly dirt run followed by a drawing for new teams that day. Oh, and, gruecd wont be able to tease you about your age for this event. We get a time bonus taken off for each year each runner is over 40, so you give us a HUGE advantge
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
I have fallen in love with swimming. In fact, it is my favorite part of my workout routine. Back in June of last year, I couldn't swim 50 yards without stopping, now I can swim a mile+ straight with ease. I have seen huge cardio benefits from swimming. The last 3 1/2s I've run have been after I started swimming. At the end of all 3, my legs we toast, but I was no where near out of breath. I added triathlons to my mix last September and look forward to doing 4 or 5 sprints this year if time permits. (you've got time to get the swimming down by June 12th's MotorCity Triathlons on Belle Isle in Detroit - let me know if you want a link).I tend to be sore if I run back to back days, so swiming and biking have allowed me to workout more with less impact. I am debating doing a marathon this spring to do just like you, get it over with and say I did it (and determine if I want to train more for another once the kids are a little older). I am looking at the Galloway &/or Hadefeld (sp?) run/walk programs to determine if I can pull it off. I am batting around the idea with my wife and think we might run it together. I
gruecd
Footballguy
I've been using a coach since last summer. He's an Ironman triathlete and marathoner himself, and he's involved in my running club, so that's how I knew him. Has it been beneficial? I honestly don't know. I've been disappointed with my results lately, but I'm not sure if that's a result of improper or less than ideal training, or if it's been circumstances beyond our control.This spring, whether I end up doing Boston or Green Bay or Grandma's, I'm going to use either Pfitz or the Runner's World Smart Coach thingey....
pigskinliquors
Dr. Parrothead
Hi All,
I'm back from what felt like my death bed. I caught the flu that the rest of my family (both daughters and wife) had, and it kicked my ###. I stepped on the scale today, and in less than 48 hours I lost almost 8 lbs
I had a piece of dry toast this morning, and have now kept it down for 3 hours = my only caloric intake other than Gatorade over the last two days. I'm hoping that day 3 (tomorrow) is the charm. I'm also a wuss, as the last two days were the first sick days I've taken in my almost ten years at this job. Hopefully, I can get some strength up for my first run in two weeks, and a bike ride this weekend :fingerscrossed:
Regarding weight training; I disagree that it can't be a part of a solid running program. You certainly shouldn't be trying to add bulk, but consistently doing push-ups, squats, sit-ups, and arms should be a part of your overall program. I try to take 15-20 minutes each night to do some combination of these.
Regarding cross-training, both biking and swimming are great for cross-training. They work different muscles, and both are non-impact.
I'm back from what felt like my death bed. I caught the flu that the rest of my family (both daughters and wife) had, and it kicked my ###. I stepped on the scale today, and in less than 48 hours I lost almost 8 lbs
I had a piece of dry toast this morning, and have now kept it down for 3 hours = my only caloric intake other than Gatorade over the last two days. I'm hoping that day 3 (tomorrow) is the charm. I'm also a wuss, as the last two days were the first sick days I've taken in my almost ten years at this job. Hopefully, I can get some strength up for my first run in two weeks, and a bike ride this weekend :fingerscrossed:Regarding weight training; I disagree that it can't be a part of a solid running program. You certainly shouldn't be trying to add bulk, but consistently doing push-ups, squats, sit-ups, and arms should be a part of your overall program. I try to take 15-20 minutes each night to do some combination of these.
Regarding cross-training, both biking and swimming are great for cross-training. They work different muscles, and both are non-impact.
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