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Week five of Marathon training is underway and the first four weeks were all solid. Six runs a week and 41M average over that span. Looking back at my training logs from last year I'm averaging a minute/ mile faster on my long runs than I was then and don't feel like I'm working much harder, very encouraging. Everything feels good but my feet, going to experiment with some different shoes.

Today I led an impromptu hill workout at work with three colleagues. Had a blast, going to make it a weekly thing. One the runners is a 25 yo girl who works for me, played soccer and lax growing up but never ran until the past couple of years. Been following her on Strava and she's been banging out 50 mile weeks just for the heck of it. It's maddening how easy it is for her. She just signed up for a May marathon in VT, no doubt she'll get under 3:30 and BQ. Nice to be young...
Only words I caught were "25 year old" and 'banging".
lol ...I made the exact same connection.

 
Page 3? I forgot to mention a 'blast from the past' while down in Houston. While our hosts were at the Texans' game on Sunday, mrs. tri and I took a driving tour in the hill country NW of Houston. That got us close enough to College Station, so I left a message for pigskinliquors in case he was around. He didn't get my message until Monday, but he did call and we had a nice chat. We'll try to meet up next time he's around Chicago or if we go back to Houston for another visit. For those that don't know, PSL is a professor down at Texas A&M and a former regular in this thread. He has had a bad hip, though, which limits his running. He has become an active biker and swimmer. (We passed some bikers on the roads south of College Station, and on many Sundays, it very well might have been him!) I assume PSL can still drink and party like in the past. PSL is noteworthy for driving from Texas to Kentucky merely to join the first Bourbon Chase crew for the after-party. :suds: A good guy! His daughters are now 14 ('acts like a 13 year old') and 10 ('acts like a 16 year old').
Cool! Sad he doesn't post here anymore.
Yeah, I miss his posts. He's not even on Facebook much.

 
Week five of Marathon training is underway and the first four weeks were all solid. Six runs a week and 41M average over that span. Looking back at my training logs from last year I'm averaging a minute/ mile faster on my long runs than I was then and don't feel like I'm working much harder, very encouraging. Everything feels good but my feet, going to experiment with some different shoes.

Today I led an impromptu hill workout at work with three colleagues. Had a blast, going to make it a weekly thing. One the runners is a 25 yo girl who works for me, played soccer and lax growing up but never ran until the past couple of years. Been following her on Strava and she's been banging out 50 mile weeks just for the heck of it. It's maddening how easy it is for her. She just signed up for a May marathon in VT, no doubt she'll get under 3:30 and BQ. Nice to be young...
Only words I caught were "25 year old" and 'banging".
lol ...I made the exact same connection.
Nigel's banging a 25yr old?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNCkHsOTJT4

 
Week five of Marathon training is underway and the first four weeks were all solid. Six runs a week and 41M average over that span. Looking back at my training logs from last year I'm averaging a minute/ mile faster on my long runs than I was then and don't feel like I'm working much harder, very encouraging. Everything feels good but my feet, going to experiment with some different shoes.

Today I led an impromptu hill workout at work with three colleagues. Had a blast, going to make it a weekly thing. One the runners is a 25 yo girl who works for me, played soccer and lax growing up but never ran until the past couple of years. Been following her on Strava and she's been banging out 50 mile weeks just for the heck of it. It's maddening how easy it is for her. She just signed up for a May marathon in VT, no doubt she'll get under 3:30 and BQ. Nice to be young...
Only words I caught were "25 year old" and 'banging".
lol ...I made the exact same connection.
Yuppp.... :useless:

Or at least a name so we can do some Facebook stalking...

 
Week five of Marathon training is underway and the first four weeks were all solid. Six runs a week and 41M average over that span. Looking back at my training logs from last year I'm averaging a minute/ mile faster on my long runs than I was then and don't feel like I'm working much harder, very encouraging. Everything feels good but my feet, going to experiment with some different shoes.

Today I led an impromptu hill workout at work with three colleagues. Had a blast, going to make it a weekly thing. One the runners is a 25 yo girl who works for me, played soccer and lax growing up but never ran until the past couple of years. Been following her on Strava and she's been banging out 50 mile weeks just for the heck of it. It's maddening how easy it is for her. She just signed up for a May marathon in VT, no doubt she'll get under 3:30 and BQ. Nice to be young...
Only words I caught were "25 year old" and 'banging".
you missed easy?

 
Ugh! I'm already sick of my snow-on-the-ground, dark-outside winter routes and long for some of my 8 to 10 mile rectangles.

 
Ugh! I'm already sick of my snow-on-the-ground, dark-outside winter routes and long for some of my 8 to 10 mile rectangles.
I don't know how you guys north of the Mason Dixon line do it. It's bad enough here in Virginia. I'm actually going to look at a treadmill I saw on craigslist tonight. I'm sure I'll still run outside 90% of the time but it will nice to be able to have the option just in case it's horrible out the other 10%. That and to be able to do more hill workouts here living on the flattest place on earth.

 
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If she didn't work FOR me I might be more forthcoming.

Bunch of dirty old men in here...good to know I'm not the only one.

 
Juxtatarot said:
Ugh! I'm already sick of my snow-on-the-ground, dark-outside winter routes and long for some of my 8 to 10 mile rectangles.
Keep it west of here. It was frigid Monday (15 and windy), but it's been between 35 and 45 + sunny since. Great three days to be out.
 
Welp, this may be the last 'warm' run for a while. Rain gets here in an hour, will stick around all weekend, eventually turn to sleet/freezing rain and then snow, and it isn't supposed to be above 30 all next week once the rain leaves.

Hello, Winter. Please don't be a ##### like the last two years. Please, and hopefully thank you.

 
:X

Terrible run this morning. 21 degrees with north wind, so wind chill about 5. High HR for some reason. Survived, so there is that. May have been the 6 beers I drank last night. :yes:

 
Welp, this may be the last 'warm' run for a while. Rain gets here in an hour, will stick around all weekend, eventually turn to sleet/freezing rain and then snow, and it isn't supposed to be above 30 all next week once the rain leaves.

Hello, Winter. Please don't be a ##### like the last two years. Please, and hopefully thank you.
We're warmer down here but it will rain tonight, possible flurries, and 20 degrees in the morning makes for ice. :X So I might just hit the bike trainer, not sure if I'll use sufferfest or watch Netflix (orange is black or making a murderer).

 
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still having the problem of heart rate showing in the 170s for the first 10-15 minutes, then drops suddenly to 140 which is likely accurate. I'd understand if my body was reacting hard to the cold but my heart rate probably isn't dropping 30+ beats in two seconds.

 
Decent training week so far as I start ramping up for Warsaw:

M - 8 miles at 7:56/mile (AHR 164)

T - 11 miles at 8:17/mile (158)

W - 5 miles at 8:16/mile (161)

T - USRD (skipped 11-miler for fear of ramping up mileage too quickly and getting injured)

F - 5 miles at 8:10/mile (160)

S - 15 miles at 8:05/mile (144)

So that's 44 miles so far this week. Tomorrow is my 39th birthday, and we're going out tonight to celebrate. If I'm not too hungover tomorrow (a big "if"), I might try for a super easy 6-mile recovery jog to hit 50 for the week. If I were a betting man, I'd put my money on the hangover.

 
Decent training week so far as I start ramping up for Warsaw:

M - 8 miles at 7:56/mile (AHR 164)

T - 11 miles at 8:17/mile (158)

W - 5 miles at 8:16/mile (161)

T - USRD (skipped 11-miler for fear of ramping up mileage too quickly and getting injured)

F - 5 miles at 8:10/mile (160)

S - 15 miles at 8:05/mile (144)

So that's 44 miles so far this week. Tomorrow is my 39th birthday, and we're going out tonight to celebrate. If I'm not too hungover tomorrow (a big "if"), I might try for a super easy 6-mile recovery jog to hit 50 for the week. If I were a betting man, I'd put my money on the hangover.
In this corner, tequila.

In the other corner, running.

Tequila for the knockout

 
still having the problem of heart rate showing in the 170s for the first 10-15 minutes, then drops suddenly to 140 which is likely accurate. I'd understand if my body was reacting hard to the cold but my heart rate probably isn't dropping 30+ beats in two seconds.
I've given up on getting accurate HR ata on my TomTom, it's all over the place with sudden 30 beat drops in stretches where I know I'm working harder than pre-drop. I never look at it while I run anyway so I guess it's no big deal. In a few weeks I go in to the dr and they're going to put a round the clock monitor on my chest that I'll wear for a couple of weeks, will be interesting to see what data I get back from that.

 
still having the problem of heart rate showing in the 170s for the first 10-15 minutes, then drops suddenly to 140 which is likely accurate. I'd understand if my body was reacting hard to the cold but my heart rate probably isn't dropping 30+ beats in two seconds.
Still convinced that's more likely error in reading than anything else. Between lack of moisture and static interference caused by technical shirt material, they don't seem to be very accurate early in any run. You work up a little sweat and the connection with your skin is better and the static is gone, and suddenly it gets accurate.

 
still having the problem of heart rate showing in the 170s for the first 10-15 minutes, then drops suddenly to 140 which is likely accurate. I'd understand if my body was reacting hard to the cold but my heart rate probably isn't dropping 30+ beats in two seconds.
Still convinced that's more likely error in reading than anything else. Between lack of moisture and static interference caused by technical shirt material, they don't seem to be very accurate early in any run. You work up a little sweat and the connection with your skin is better and the static is gone, and suddenly it gets accurate.
That's what I thought. My run this week after lifting didn't have the same problem.

 
I was prepared to net my first 30+ mile week of the year, but then I looked outside. This warm blanket and three year old sleeping on my arm has been a much better choice.

 
A good post-marathon week:

T: 4 miles

W: 11 miles (8:24/mi, HR-146)

Th: 8 miles, 3 miles tempo (7:25/mi)

Sa: 1/2 mile swim!

Su: 5 miles - treadmill

28 miles plus the swim. First swim in a long time without a wetsuit (and I missed it). Mrs. Tri and I joined a health club: Her to start working out and losing weight (she 'retires' on Feb. 1); me to get access to a pool, stationary bikes, and other cross-training equipment. Decided to try the treadmill since it was 10 degrees outside with some ice. It was a kind of weird experience, and mildly unpleasant. But if I didn't do that, I wouldn't have done any miles today (didn't run until late afternoon). Juxt, et al, any treadmill advice? Use some incline? Vary the incline to mix it up? Are speeds comparable to outdoors? TIA

 
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My default is always 1% incline on the treadmill, I've heard it's easier on the knees than flat and you work a little harder without noticing it. And I don't know about others but I have a hard time running as fast on a treadmill as I do outdoors.

I don't mind doing interval workouts on the mill but I've really grown to hate it otherwise.

 
A good post-marathon week:

T: 4 miles

W: 11 miles (8:24/mi, HR-146)

Th: 8 miles, 3 miles tempo (7:25/mi)

Sa: 1/2 mile swim!

Su: 5 miles - treadmill

28 miles plus the swim. First swim in a long time without a wetsuit (and I missed it). Mrs. Tri and I joined a health club: Her to start working out and losing weight (she 'retires' on Feb. 1); me to get access to a pool, stationary bikes, and other cross-training equipment. Decided to try the treadmill since it was 10 degrees outside with some ice. It was a kind of weird experience, and mildly unpleasant. But if I didn't do that, I wouldn't have done any miles today (didn't run until late afternoon). Juxt, et al, any treadmill advice? Use some incline? Vary the incline to mix it up? Are speeds comparable to outdoors? TIA
Holy crap - Can't believe you can do this. :shock:

 
A good post-marathon week:

T: 4 miles

W: 11 miles (8:24/mi, HR-146)

Th: 8 miles, 3 miles tempo (7:25/mi)

Sa: 1/2 mile swim!

Su: 5 miles - treadmill

28 miles plus the swim. First swim in a long time without a wetsuit (and I missed it). Mrs. Tri and I joined a health club: Her to start working out and losing weight (she 'retires' on Feb. 1); me to get access to a pool, stationary bikes, and other cross-training equipment. Decided to try the treadmill since it was 10 degrees outside with some ice. It was a kind of weird experience, and mildly unpleasant. But if I didn't do that, I wouldn't have done any miles today (didn't run until late afternoon). Juxt, et al, any treadmill advice? Use some incline? Vary the incline to mix it up? Are speeds comparable to outdoors? TIA
Holy crap - Can't believe you can do this. :shock:
no kidding, 11 miles at a good speed and low HR means your recovery is exceptional. Tempo the next day just seems brutal for a "recovery" week.

 
A good post-marathon week:

T: 4 miles

W: 11 miles (8:24/mi, HR-146)

Th: 8 miles, 3 miles tempo (7:25/mi)

Sa: 1/2 mile swim!

Su: 5 miles - treadmill

28 miles plus the swim. First swim in a long time without a wetsuit (and I missed it). Mrs. Tri and I joined a health club: Her to start working out and losing weight (she 'retires' on Feb. 1); me to get access to a pool, stationary bikes, and other cross-training equipment. Decided to try the treadmill since it was 10 degrees outside with some ice. It was a kind of weird experience, and mildly unpleasant. But if I didn't do that, I wouldn't have done any miles today (didn't run until late afternoon). Juxt, et al, any treadmill advice? Use some incline? Vary the incline to mix it up? Are speeds comparable to outdoors? TIA
A treadmill is a little easier because there is no air resistance. It's like running with the wind at your back at your same speed. A 1% incline is suppose to balance the effort.

I used to like some of the hills settings on the treadmill...particularly the ones that varied the incline and I could see on the treadmill what I'd be in store for. I haven't done that since I switched gyms. I always like doing tempos and longer intervals on them. A challenging effort always makes it more exciting.

By the way, in honor of Bowie, I dialed up "Heroes" for my last mile repeat on the treadmill. It worked great and the mile was flying by! :excited: That is, until the song was over and I still had .3 to go. :X

 
I've always preferred running outside but almost never do. I'm always amazed when I see people bundled up in the winter running or mid-summer when it's 100 degrees outside.

Are these just people that just despise treadmills?

Also, what do you do with your stuff while you're running outside e.g. keys, ID, water etc.? :confused:

 
Arizona Ron said:
Also, what do you do with your stuff while you're running outside e.g. keys, ID, water etc.? :confused:
For me, I almost always run from home. If I need a key, I just take one key and tie it into the tie string of my shorts or running pants. For ID, I have a Road ID, which is a strap that goes around my wrist that has emergency phone numbers on it.

For water, if it's less than 6-7 miles, I don't carry any. Otherwise I'll carry it, or put a water bottle in my pocket, or wear a belt that has a place for a water bottle. I only use that when the run is longer than say, 12 miles.

 
Arizona Ron said:
I've always preferred running outside but almost never do. I'm always amazed when I see people bundled up in the winter running or mid-summer when it's 100 degrees outside.

Are these just people that just despise treadmills?

Also, what do you do with your stuff while you're running outside e.g. keys, ID, water etc.? :confused:
Most running shorts these days have a tiny little pocket for keys. They work great.

 
Arizona Ron said:
Also, what do you do with your stuff while you're running outside e.g. keys, ID, water etc.? :confused:
For me, I almost always run from home. If I need a key, I just take one key and tie it into the tie string of my shorts or running pants. For ID, I have a Road ID, which is a strap that goes around my wrist that has emergency phone numbers on it.

For water, if it's less than 6-7 miles, I don't carry any. Otherwise I'll carry it, or put a water bottle in my pocket, or wear a belt that has a place for a water bottle. I only use that when the run is longer than say, 12 miles.
Similar for me ...I'll tie the key into my shoelace. I always wear my RoadID, just in case. I don't bother with fluids on cooler/cold days unless it's over 12-14 miles.

My feet/legs feel none the worse for wear after yesterday's TM run, so I'm heading back today for a 10 miler. The gym membership comes with a couple consultations, so I'm meeting a trainer on Tuesday morning to discuss a routine for cross-training/core work to supplement my running (she did a prelim assessment last week). I'll target 2-3 non-running workouts a week.

As to the post-race recovery, I was surprised, too, how quickly I recovered. But it was a very flat course, which helped, and as mentioned, I do feel like I held back a bit from miles 18-23. But that's good: I far-surpassed my improve-the-BQ-time goal and came out of it in good shape!

 
Arizona Ron said:
I've always preferred running outside but almost never do. I'm always amazed when I see people bundled up in the winter running or mid-summer when it's 100 degrees outside.

Are these just people that just despise treadmills?

Also, what do you do with your stuff while you're running outside e.g. keys, ID, water etc.? :confused:
It's called the dreadmill for a reason.

In the winter time, while at work, I'll put my gym bag in the car then slide the key + remote inside of one of my gloves. Barely even notice it's there. Spring/Summer/Fall I just have to remember to pack shorts with a pocket. I have the same road ID Chief mentioned and I never need water over a 30-45 minute run.

Longer runs from home, I create a path that gives me fluid options after an hour or so and repeat options every 15-20 minutes. Sometimes it's a park, sometimes it's home. The park that I do the bulk of my trail running has water fountains everywhere, so if I'm struggling with fluids I am usually within 10 minutes of a fountain somewhere.

I think my hydration needs differ from most in here though. I rarely have any fluids while I'm running. I'll use chews for races and a couple of longer prep runs, but that's really it.

 
Arizona Ron said:
Also, what do you do with your stuff while you're running outside e.g. keys, ID, water etc.? :confused:
For me, I almost always run from home. If I need a key, I just take one key and tie it into the tie string of my shorts or running pants. For ID, I have a Road ID, which is a strap that goes around my wrist that has emergency phone numbers on it.

For water, if it's less than 6-7 miles, I don't carry any. Otherwise I'll carry it, or put a water bottle in my pocket, or wear a belt that has a place for a water bottle. I only use that when the run is longer than say, 12 miles.
My garage has an electronic keypad which is awesome. But if I run from work I'll leave my key somewhere hidden or carry it.

Water - agreed except I don't bother with water for 2 hours or less if it's less than 70 degrees or so.

ETA: I'd much rather put on cold weather clothing and run outside except when it's icy. But I also use the pool and put my bike on the trainer for the winter. So if it's nasty I have options besides the treadmill. The bike trainer is basically the same thing, but I find that okay for about an hour before I dislike it.

 
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Best running accessory I own is this thing I picked up at the Boston expo last year called a FlipBelt. It's like a big headband made of stretchy material you pull up over your waist, has four slots in the material you can tuck thing into: gels, phone, keys, tp, id, etc. Don't even know you're wearing it.

For long runs I usually drive somewhere to start, then loop back to the truck for fluids and fuel. Or I drive out beforehand and stash a Gatorade in some bushes along the route.

 
Best running accessory I own is this thing I picked up at the Boston expo last year called a FlipBelt. It's like a big headband made of stretchy material you pull up over your waist, has four slots in the material you can tuck thing into: gels, phone, keys, tp, id, etc. Don't even know you're wearing it.

For long runs I usually drive somewhere to start, then loop back to the truck for fluids and fuel. Or I drive out beforehand and stash a Gatorade in some bushes along the route.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UQFRL9M?keywords=flipbelt&qid=1452530683&ref_=sr_1_2&s=sports-and-fitness&sr=1-2

 
I took a deferral on the marathon. That's three of the last four years I have missed my favorite race.

Knee is a lot better, but clearly not up to 100%. I might have to reschedule my MRI which I cancelled last week thinking the knee was recovering.

 
Arizona Ron said:
Also, what do you do with your stuff while you're running outside e.g. keys, ID, water etc.? :confused:
For me, I almost always run from home. If I need a key, I just take one key and tie it into the tie string of my shorts or running pants. For ID, I have a Road ID, which is a strap that goes around my wrist that has emergency phone numbers on it.

For water, if it's less than 6-7 miles, I don't carry any. Otherwise I'll carry it, or put a water bottle in my pocket, or wear a belt that has a place for a water bottle. I only use that when the run is longer than say, 12 miles.
My new favorite bottle for shorter runs is this one from Simple Hydration. It tucks right into the waistband, and when worn on the rear hip area I don't even notice it's there (it bounces a little if in the small of the back).

For runs of 1-2 hours, when it's really warm, or if I just want to carry my phone then I use the Nathan Quickview Handheld.


Best running accessory I own is this thing I picked up at the Boston expo last year called a FlipBelt. It's like a big headband made of stretchy material you pull up over your waist, has four slots in the material you can tuck thing into: gels, phone, keys, tp, id, etc. Don't even know you're wearing it.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UQFRL9M?keywords=flipbelt&qid=1452530683&ref_=sr_1_2&s=sports-and-fitness&sr=1-2
I've heard this is awesome...think I'll finally get around to ordering one and checking it out.

 
Best running accessory I own is this thing I picked up at the Boston expo last year called a FlipBelt. It's like a big headband made of stretchy material you pull up over your waist, has four slots in the material you can tuck thing into: gels, phone, keys, tp, id, etc. Don't even know you're wearing it.

For long runs I usually drive somewhere to start, then loop back to the truck for fluids and fuel. Or I drive out beforehand and stash a Gatorade in some bushes along the route.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UQFRL9M?keywords=flipbelt&qid=1452530683&ref_=sr_1_2&s=sports-and-fitness&sr=1-2
Similar but this is the one I have:

http://www.flipbelt.com

 
Best running accessory I own is this thing I picked up at the Boston expo last year called a FlipBelt. It's like a big headband made of stretchy material you pull up over your waist, has four slots in the material you can tuck thing into: gels, phone, keys, tp, id, etc. Don't even know you're wearing it.

For long runs I usually drive somewhere to start, then loop back to the truck for fluids and fuel. Or I drive out beforehand and stash a Gatorade in some bushes along the route.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UQFRL9M?keywords=flipbelt&qid=1452530683&ref_=sr_1_2&s=sports-and-fitness&sr=1-2
Similar but this is the one I have:

http://www.flipbelt.com
Oh yeah, that's the one I heard was awesome.

 

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