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gruecd
Footballguy
I think it's the former more than the latter. I run shirtless most of the time, so that's one less piece of clothing to absorb it. I can usually wring sweat out of my socks after summer runs.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Sometimes I'll do something more uniform like the others are describing, but I do a helter skelter approach to a lot of my speed interaval workouts. I think there's benefit in mixing these in because you can practice taking steps out of your comfort zone - doing more limit testing.
i.e. yesterday I decided that whenever I got to an incline or decline on my route I'd stride to the top or bottom. I did one last week in which I started off with a lot of rest in between and gradually shrunk that time in between with each passing rep. The week prior it was uniform - 250m, but it was up a hill. Did one earlier this summer in which I did four 200+ foot climbs as hard as I could across an 11 mile route. And my favorite late cycle workout is a progression run to > 5K pace, cool down for 5-10 mins, then do as many 30 second sprints with minimal rest in between as I can.
So that didn't answer your question at all, but maybe something to consider if looking to break up the monotony of training when the time is right.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Man, feeling good right now.
Worked Sunday night and got hammered. Ended up with no sleep as I was up all night busy. Continued yesterday without taking a nap but needed to get my 3 slow recovery miles in so made myself get out there yesterday evening. Legs were tired from long run day before and no rest, on no sleep, ate Chinese food for lunch and it was 90+ humid degrees to boot.... Just felt so "blah" but I got out there and got it done. Miserable 3 slow miles.
This morning was my youngest's first day of preschool so got her in and had to hustle to get my workout in as it's only a half day. And of course I forgot my watch (read wife's watch) and I'm thinking @tri-man 47 is going to want to kill me. And I'm doing 800s for the first time. And it's ####### hot as hell already with an SI of 158.
So what happens? Instead of running them at 10k pace (7:45 for me), I did them in the upper 6's - 7:00 pace without any difficulty. I just ran it by feel where I knew I could comfortably hold it for 2 laps and did the walk/run @gruecd mentioned above in between and feel awesome. Crazy that I wasn't really winded at those speeds after the 800. Couldn't do much warmup (got half a mile in) or cool down as I need to leave soon to pick her up but I'll add them to my slow miles tomorrow.
I love track days now and the day I most look forward to now in the week (followed by tempo run).
ETA -- Just manually figured out my 4 splits on the 800's. Not quite as fast as I first thought, but still faster than I needed to be and did them a little faster than 5K pace.
Lap 1 -- 3:40 (7:23 pace)
3:10 recovery
Lap 2 -- 3:37 (7:17 pace)
3:05 recovery
Lap 3 -- 3:36 (7:15 pace)
3:11 recovery
Lap 4 -- 3:39 (7:21 pace )
Worked Sunday night and got hammered. Ended up with no sleep as I was up all night busy. Continued yesterday without taking a nap but needed to get my 3 slow recovery miles in so made myself get out there yesterday evening. Legs were tired from long run day before and no rest, on no sleep, ate Chinese food for lunch and it was 90+ humid degrees to boot.... Just felt so "blah" but I got out there and got it done. Miserable 3 slow miles.
This morning was my youngest's first day of preschool so got her in and had to hustle to get my workout in as it's only a half day. And of course I forgot my watch (read wife's watch) and I'm thinking @tri-man 47 is going to want to kill me. And I'm doing 800s for the first time. And it's ####### hot as hell already with an SI of 158.
So what happens? Instead of running them at 10k pace (7:45 for me), I did them in the upper 6's - 7:00 pace without any difficulty. I just ran it by feel where I knew I could comfortably hold it for 2 laps and did the walk/run @gruecd mentioned above in between and feel awesome. Crazy that I wasn't really winded at those speeds after the 800. Couldn't do much warmup (got half a mile in) or cool down as I need to leave soon to pick her up but I'll add them to my slow miles tomorrow.
I love track days now and the day I most look forward to now in the week (followed by tempo run).
ETA -- Just manually figured out my 4 splits on the 800's. Not quite as fast as I first thought, but still faster than I needed to be and did them a little faster than 5K pace.
Lap 1 -- 3:40 (7:23 pace)
3:10 recovery
Lap 2 -- 3:37 (7:17 pace)
3:05 recovery
Lap 3 -- 3:36 (7:15 pace)
3:11 recovery
Lap 4 -- 3:39 (7:21 pace )
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MAC_32
Footballguy
That's about where I am. I sometimes run with a shirt and others times not, but when the dewpoint is into the 60's and higher it doesn't matter what I'm wearing up top - my socks are soaked.
Brony
Footballguy
I started today with ambitions of doing quarters-ish workout. I was in neighborhood so ran by time, not distance. 90 seconds on; 60 sec rest. I hit some busy roads so it became run hard to the next stop sign and then jog til my next turn. Not as quality as my original target of 90 on/ 60 rest, but man I am dragging today so it was still effective.
I think I complained earlier that my steroid shot from July 1 was ineffective. This was premature. It has done wonders and :knocksonwood: the leg has been awesome. Now if I'm feeling a little off, I'll take NSAIDs before the run and try to stave off inflammation from that joint.
I think I complained earlier that my steroid shot from July 1 was ineffective. This was premature. It has done wonders and :knocksonwood: the leg has been awesome. Now if I'm feeling a little off, I'll take NSAIDs before the run and try to stave off inflammation from that joint.
JAA
Footballguy
My first 70.3 HIM
My official results: http://www.ironman.com/triathlon/events/americas/ironman-70.3/maine/results.aspx?y=2018&rd=20180826&race=maine70.3&bidid=1650&detail=1#axzz5PPGtwBNp
Garmin: https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/2965305737
Some notables:
[*]Took my time on T1. No rush, didnt want to miss anything. I was also a little worried about the salt water on my body. Spent prolly a good 30 seconds under a water shower trying to get excess salt off.
[*]I was targeting above 17mph avg for the bike at around 135HR and ended with an average HR of 146 and 18mph, I cant be disappointed with the effort. I was surprised with the cadence average. I bet this was due to the amount of coasting I did. I bet if you took it out I was much closer to 90+.
[*]18mph is rather poor for a standard bike split, like horrible in my AG (134 outta 185). That said, I was on the hoods for 95+% of the ride since I didnt have any aero setup going on. Need to save for a tri-bike which will cost more than my car.
[*]One bottle drop on the bike in the first 20 miles. I was out of the saddle going up a hill and wanted to hit it harder. The bottle popped out the back of the jersey, I had to stop and pick it up
[*]Stopped halfway on the bike with full bladder to use porta-john. I so wanted to pee on the bike, which I have never done, but there were too many people around to think about it.
[*]Felt great on the bike fueling wise. I also consumed a clif bar like mid way. Went through about 3 of the 22+oz bottles each containing ~325 cal +electrolytes.
[*]Took a GU just before the end of the bike
[*]Took my time on T2, didnt want to miss anything
[*]Felt like I had a full bladder on the start of the run. However, never stopped and was fine. Didnt end up going until 1 hour after the race while at dinner
[*]My watch was set for 37min reminder to fuel. Took a GU at the first 3 reminders. Didnt take one for the last. I also took 2-3oz of water at almost every mile. Only used my Gatorade Endurance on my belt once.
[*]Potential GI distress: At about the start of the run I felt "full". I think this was because I consumed so much fluid on the bike. Im not sure if it was total calories, but since I peed halfway through the bike and felt like I wanted to at the start of the run, that is my guess. I felt this way most of the run. I consistently felt like I was on the brink of stomach cramps. Not anything I have felt before. The last GU I did take I had to force down. I was not wanting it. Also, I forced myself to drink some of the Gatorade endurance I brought to make sure I had enough electrolytes with the temps.
[*]The run was good and hard. When I started I felt like I was running a 9:30 pace, but it was a sub 9 pace. I was very surprised and happy. It was sunny and hot so I tried to keep to around a 165 HR. I was surprised my sub 9 min pace was only good enough for bottom 1/3rd
[*]I started to feel it about mile 4. Got a few mental thoughts about stopping and "is this worth it". Fortunately they were easy to disperse. I tried to steady my pace through mile 9 and then start going faster.
[*]While you cant tell I was going harder in mile 9, I chose it because that part of the course started on a trail. It was packed dirt/gravel, not my favorite running surface, especially with my knee. At the point my HR goes up some, but its a downhill and my pace doesnt change much. I was a little hesitant to really push it on those conditions. I exit those conditions shortly after mile 10. From there on you can see my pace pick up and HR grow when not on a downhill. Mile 10-13 I kept pushing and I was able to negative split from mile 9 through the end (GAP pace): 9:06, 9:02, 8:37, 8:21, 8:19
Finish the race fine with a small amount of suffering. I could have suffered a lot more, but for my first race I feel like this was the right call. This was the plan was perfect and it came off perfectly. Very happy to have a solid race and meet all my goals for it:
I just scheduled my first 100+ mile (120mi) bike for 9/7.
My official results: http://www.ironman.com/triathlon/events/americas/ironman-70.3/maine/results.aspx?y=2018&rd=20180826&race=maine70.3&bidid=1650&detail=1#axzz5PPGtwBNp
Garmin: https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/2965305737
Some notables:
- I swam some extra. The swim was chaotic and I wanted nothing to do with the mass of flailing bodies in the choppy. I wanted a relaxing swim. If anything, I swam slow. I wanted to guarantee no stress and no elevated HR. I definitely self-seeded myself too slow at 35-40 min as i did the swim in 32 min. Next time I would seed myself at something like 30-32 min as I easily could have swam faster with a true avg HR of less than 160. I could also have swam closer to the buoys, but in the moment I didn't care (no pincers). Not sure I care now either as 32 min for the swim was good enough to finish in the top 1/3rd.
What was nice about this is I did have a couple times where I wanted to pass people who I thought were out of control in sighting. At the pace I was I had plenty of gas to get by them quickly
[*]Took my time on T1. No rush, didnt want to miss anything. I was also a little worried about the salt water on my body. Spent prolly a good 30 seconds under a water shower trying to get excess salt off.
[*]I was targeting above 17mph avg for the bike at around 135HR and ended with an average HR of 146 and 18mph, I cant be disappointed with the effort. I was surprised with the cadence average. I bet this was due to the amount of coasting I did. I bet if you took it out I was much closer to 90+.
Side note: I averaged 17.8 mph and 174 HR for 11mile Bare Hill Bike leg. Significant improvement in the execution of the bike.
[*]18mph is rather poor for a standard bike split, like horrible in my AG (134 outta 185). That said, I was on the hoods for 95+% of the ride since I didnt have any aero setup going on. Need to save for a tri-bike which will cost more than my car.
[*]One bottle drop on the bike in the first 20 miles. I was out of the saddle going up a hill and wanted to hit it harder. The bottle popped out the back of the jersey, I had to stop and pick it up
[*]Stopped halfway on the bike with full bladder to use porta-john. I so wanted to pee on the bike, which I have never done, but there were too many people around to think about it.
[*]Felt great on the bike fueling wise. I also consumed a clif bar like mid way. Went through about 3 of the 22+oz bottles each containing ~325 cal +electrolytes.
[*]Took a GU just before the end of the bike
[*]Took my time on T2, didnt want to miss anything
[*]Felt like I had a full bladder on the start of the run. However, never stopped and was fine. Didnt end up going until 1 hour after the race while at dinner
[*]My watch was set for 37min reminder to fuel. Took a GU at the first 3 reminders. Didnt take one for the last. I also took 2-3oz of water at almost every mile. Only used my Gatorade Endurance on my belt once.
[*]Potential GI distress: At about the start of the run I felt "full". I think this was because I consumed so much fluid on the bike. Im not sure if it was total calories, but since I peed halfway through the bike and felt like I wanted to at the start of the run, that is my guess. I felt this way most of the run. I consistently felt like I was on the brink of stomach cramps. Not anything I have felt before. The last GU I did take I had to force down. I was not wanting it. Also, I forced myself to drink some of the Gatorade endurance I brought to make sure I had enough electrolytes with the temps.
I was thinking of trying to half my water intake on the bike, but keep my calories the same. That would mean ~45-55oz of water bottle instead of 100-120oz. Any thoughts here?
[*]The run was good and hard. When I started I felt like I was running a 9:30 pace, but it was a sub 9 pace. I was very surprised and happy. It was sunny and hot so I tried to keep to around a 165 HR. I was surprised my sub 9 min pace was only good enough for bottom 1/3rd
[*]I started to feel it about mile 4. Got a few mental thoughts about stopping and "is this worth it". Fortunately they were easy to disperse. I tried to steady my pace through mile 9 and then start going faster.
[*]While you cant tell I was going harder in mile 9, I chose it because that part of the course started on a trail. It was packed dirt/gravel, not my favorite running surface, especially with my knee. At the point my HR goes up some, but its a downhill and my pace doesnt change much. I was a little hesitant to really push it on those conditions. I exit those conditions shortly after mile 10. From there on you can see my pace pick up and HR grow when not on a downhill. Mile 10-13 I kept pushing and I was able to negative split from mile 9 through the end (GAP pace): 9:06, 9:02, 8:37, 8:21, 8:19
Finish the race fine with a small amount of suffering. I could have suffered a lot more, but for my first race I feel like this was the right call. This was the plan was perfect and it came off perfectly. Very happy to have a solid race and meet all my goals for it:
- Sub 6 hours overall
- 17+mph
- Sub 9min pace on the run
- Didnt suffer horribly
I just scheduled my first 100+ mile (120mi) bike for 9/7.
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
I thought we were pretty even in our fitness, but I'm recognizing you are quite a bit faster than me at this stage. I don't think I could do this workout. I've been running lots of miles, but mostly all slow easy runs. Trying to incorporate some speed here and there a bit more.
Can't wait to see how your marathon turns out.
ChiefD
Footballguy
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Congrats JAA!
gruecd
Footballguy
gruecd
Footballguy
Agreed. Can always count on the ultrarunners and triathletes to make me feel less crazy for the stuff I do as a marathoner...
gruecd
Footballguy
And no way that I could handle the mileage that you're putting down!
I feel pretty good about where I'm at with 9-1/2 weeks to go. The progressive 20-miler (working down into the low-7:00s for the last 5 miles) that I've got scheduled for the 8th should be a good test. I'm kinda committed to pacing 1:45 for the half at the Fox Cities Marathon on 9/23, but part of me wants to see if they can find somebody else so I can race it (assuming suitable weather) and see how I'm progressing.
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gianmarco
Footballguy
Just do both.
You'll undoubtedly have a bunch of out of breath, confused racers who can't finish but you may help someone to a PR. Win/win for you and maybe someone else and you'll get out of there faster.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Great job, @JAA !
I can appreciate what you went through - my back-to-back tris a dozen years ago were sub-6, though ten minutes behind your times. - I like the plan to take it easy and avoid traffic on the swim. You can't 'win' on the swim, but you could wreck your day with a bad mosh pit experience.
- Nice pace on the bike! These events are so hard to gauge, given the huge disparity of bike quality. That's why it's really you against yourself and your own limits. Holding 18+mph represents a strong effort. As to the above, you probably could have cut back some of the fluids and tried a bit more solid food ...e.g., mash a banana, or munch a Clif Bar.
- Nice job as well keeping the run pace under 9:00. That definitely takes some effort (and means you're not run/walking, as many do). Good to see you had the mental strength for this.
- Rather slow on the transitions, but for your first Half-IM, better to play it safe.
Overall, congrats! These events are a great test of physical training and mental strength.
gruecd
Footballguy
Ha!
Just found out that (unbeknownst to me) a different company is handling the pace team for Fox Cities this year, so I'm free to race! Still all depends on weather. I'm not gonna go out there and have a ####ty race because it's too warm and destroy my confidence...
Brony
Footballguy
Nice race JAA! I was surprised that was your first IM based on all of your activity on Strava. I'm still waiting for a triathlon with a 50 yard swim, 25 mile bike and 5K run.
just go man
just go man
JAA
Footballguy
It prolly means I set the bar low enough to trip over ...Man, awesome job. If you hit all your goals in THAT type of race - wow.
JAA
Footballguy
Absolutely!Just awesome. Kind of makes me want to see how I would do if I attempted a triathlon.
Just find a local sprint and don’t die. Really that easy.
JAA
Footballguy
Ha! You would do awesome. It’s simple specificity. Just like all the other work you guys are doing, you just need to practice it. It’s nothing special, trust me.
Nervous AF! I had intended one final decent, though not crazy high volume, week just last week followed by a less than two week taper. Well work and life spiraled out of control so one 7 mile run, a couple short hikes, and an 11 mile family bike ride later and I guess I'm tapering for three weeks instead of two.
On top of that, I had a full weekend similar to your night (sans the solid workout with vertical) in that we were up at a huge cabin in northern MN with two other families this past weekend. Let's just say there were copious amounts of food and alcohol consumed. I've lost the three pounds I put on in the couple days since, but definitely feeling the affects.
All that said, honestly what I'm most disappointed about is that my wife just left the doctor and has a confirmed fracture of her tibia (actually unbeknownst to her a re-fracture). She's been super diligent in her training to run the Moose Mountain Marathon on the Superior Hiking Trail the same weekend that I'm running the 100, and now (unless she's dumb about it) will not be able to do so. Feel super bummed for her.
About what sums up the last 10 days is that I was absolutely CRUSHING a 100 in a dream last night...I was at mile 70 and on a sub-20 hour pace! I was in 12th place, though the top 11 were 2+ hours ahead of me. I have no idea what race it was but there were sections that went through school hallways, so it was very unique.
I was being paced by one of my good friends, a former college runner, whom I don't normally run with. I don't have vivid dreams very often, so the detail was incredibly hilarious but damn I was in a zone. And then BAM! (cue crying) "Daddy! I wet my pajamas! (more crying) My bed is wet!" And just like that, my three year old dashed what was likely my only hope to ever go sub-20 hours in a 100. Back to the drawing board...
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
Sorry to hear about your wife, that sucks. Hope she heals up well and quickly.Nervous AF! I had intended one final decent, though not crazy high volume, week just last week followed by a less than two week taper. Well work and life spiraled out of control so one 7 mile run, a couple short hikes, and an 11 mile family bike ride later and I guess I'm tapering for three weeks instead of two.
On top of that, I had a full weekend similar to your night (sans the solid workout with vertical) in that we were up at a huge cabin in northern MN with two other families this past weekend. Let's just say there were copious amounts of food and alcohol consumed. I've lost the three pounds I put on in the couple days since, but definitely feeling the affects.
All that said, honestly what I'm most disappointed about is that my wife just left the doctor and has a confirmed fracture of her tibia (actually unbeknownst to her a re-fracture). She's been super diligent in her training to run the Moose Mountain Marathon on the Superior Hiking Trail the same weekend that I'm running the 100, and now (unless she's dumb about it) will not be able to do so. Feel super bummed for her.
About what sums up the last 10 days is that I was absolutely CRUSHING a 100 in a dream last night...I was at mile 70 and on a sub-20 hour pace! I was in 12th place, though the top 11 were 2+ hours ahead of me. I have no idea what race it was but there were sections that went through school hallways, so it was very unique.
You still have time for one @BassNBrew standby pre-100 miler workout - run 8 miles, take 2 hours off, run 8 miles, take 2 hours off, run 8 miles, take 2 hours off, run 8 miles. Preferably through the night. Did I get that right, BnB?
at the dream. During races I've run through 2-mile tunnels in the dark, roped down a 40% grade through the forest, climbed up ladders, run down stairs, gone across snow and ice and mud....but never any school hallways.
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
Congrats on the race! Sounds like you executed it really well for your first one.
Yeah, I think you answered your own question. Now I know cramming in fluid and calories during the bike is a thing in triathlon to take advantage of that time when there isn't that pounding you'll get on the run. But if I'm reading your activity right you consumed 100-120 oz of in three hours, plus some Gatorade. We can pretty much only process 26-34 oz of water an hour during exercise, and it sounds like you were at the top end of that, if not above. So you were running with a gut full of fluid, hence the stomach cramps.
Here are a couple of resources to check out:
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
Close. Hour on, three hour off. 5 pm, 9 pm, 1am, 5 am, 9 am, 1pm. Should work out to 30+ miles with lots of dark miles. Doesn’t beat you up too bad. I’ll nap between 2am and 5am and again between the next segment. If you worked the day of the 5 pm start it does a decent job of simulating the back half of a race from a body clock standpoint.Sorry to hear about your wife, that sucks. Hope she heals up well and quickly.
You still have time for one @BassNBrew standby pre-100 miler workout - run 8 miles, take 2 hours off, run 8 miles, take 2 hours off, run 8 miles, take 2 hours off, run 8 miles. Preferably through the night. Did I get that right, BnB?
ChiefD
Footballguy
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
That was it.
On another note, do you know anyone that has run Grindstone 100? I’m having a hard time getting much intel on the course, what the race is like, and why it has a 38 hour cutoff.
gianmarco
Footballguy
gianmarco
Footballguy
We have this business here in town called Stretch U. I've been meaning to try it and they recently had a Groupon so I bought one to give it a shot.
Instead of a massage, this is just a stretching place with active stretching and myofascial release. 4.9/5.0 stars so I made an appointment for this morning. 30 minutes of stretching for whole body and it was pretty good. Not painful but helped increase range of motion, especially with my legs and hips. Actually made a difference with my right piriformis and when I ran tonight it felt great.
I'll probably go a couple more times and see if it makes a difference. Today's 30 minutes session was only $15. The subsequent 20 minute sessions where you can concentrate on one area are $37 which is a bit pricey, but I got 2 of those with the Groupon for only $20 total. After that, I can get 8 of them for $120 which isn't bad. If it helps loosen things up and keeps me feeling good, I'll go for it. It's nice because it doesn't take too long, still feels good, and far less painful than a good massage (both during and after). Just need to see how effective it actually is.
Instead of a massage, this is just a stretching place with active stretching and myofascial release. 4.9/5.0 stars so I made an appointment for this morning. 30 minutes of stretching for whole body and it was pretty good. Not painful but helped increase range of motion, especially with my legs and hips. Actually made a difference with my right piriformis and when I ran tonight it felt great.
I'll probably go a couple more times and see if it makes a difference. Today's 30 minutes session was only $15. The subsequent 20 minute sessions where you can concentrate on one area are $37 which is a bit pricey, but I got 2 of those with the Groupon for only $20 total. After that, I can get 8 of them for $120 which isn't bad. If it helps loosen things up and keeps me feeling good, I'll go for it. It's nice because it doesn't take too long, still feels good, and far less painful than a good massage (both during and after). Just need to see how effective it actually is.
JAA
Footballguy
Just got done a 3 mile run with the wife. All she was doing was complaining about the humidity. “Can you feel that?”. I’m like “yea, it feels great”. The entire time she complained all I could think about was you guys complaining and trying to figure out the suck index. I think it is 142 ... dew point + temp? Whatever it was I loved it.
gruecd
Footballguy
So I did an easy recovery run with my buddy last night, and while I was looking at Strava afterwards, I noticed that we'd run a little 0.35-mile segment and that the dudes with the two fastest times are friends of mine. The CR was fast (2:01...5:42/mile pace), but I thought it might be doable if I sprinted it, and I thought it would be funny for my friend to get a notification showing that I'd stolen his CR.
So this morning I got up and did my scheduled 7-mile run, ending at the beginning of that segment. Naturally I took off sprinting, and while I definitely slowed down towards the end, I managed to clock 1:57, beating him my 4 seconds and taking the CR.
Looking forward to seeing if he notices and if he gives me any #### about it. 
So this morning I got up and did my scheduled 7-mile run, ending at the beginning of that segment. Naturally I took off sprinting, and while I definitely slowed down towards the end, I managed to clock 1:57, beating him my 4 seconds and taking the CR.
Looking forward to seeing if he notices and if he gives me any #### about it.
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MAC_32
Footballguy
gianmarco
Footballguy
Yeah, I had some choice words to share when I read that but didn't want to get reported.
Just got home from work and it's a glorious 70 degrees outside with only a 66 degree dew point. It feels magnificent. I wasn't planning on running yet but I'm not passing this up. About to go drop my daughter off and then do my tempo run back to my house.
I'll have plenty of thoughts and prayers for @gruecd's humid 52 degrees while I'm knocking that out.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
MAC_32
Footballguy
I'm currently debating what to do - it'll be a glorious 72/58 over lunch and I intended to tempo, but I came down with a cold yesterday. I know you're not supposed to take drugs before running hard, but I'm doing it anyway. If I'm not feeling right I'll audible, but not sure what I'll do instead.
Brony
Footballguy
gruecd
Footballguy
To be clear, I wasn't complaining. Just stating my preference for NOT having my clothes be soaked with sweat when I finish running.
