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gianmarco
Footballguy
Similar to me stating my preference for my son not leaving his #### lying around the house. I'm not complaining, just prefer to not have to pick up after him.
To be clear, I wasn't complaining. Just stating my preference for NOT having my clothes be soaked with sweat when I finish running.
To be clear, NOT complaining.
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
gianmarco
Footballguy
Running headphones/earbud talk:
I had a Motorola S305 from long ago that worked perfectly for when I run. These were over the ear and had good enough sound and I could still hear people talking if I needed to. Unfortunately, being several years old, they died a few weeks ago.
I ended up picking up a pair of JLab Epic 2 BT earbuds at Sam's and have been using those. They are ok, but I never get a good enough fit, they block out all ambient sound which I don't really like, and now they completely died after just about 3 weeks (just read that's happened to other people as well). So I'm going to bring these back for a return.
Any recommendations? Ideally, I'd like to get an over the ear set now that I've tried these but I'm still open to the idea of ear buds. I don't care as much about the sound quality of music, only that I can hear it. Bigger preference for me is comfort and ease of fit and staying in place while running.
I had a Motorola S305 from long ago that worked perfectly for when I run. These were over the ear and had good enough sound and I could still hear people talking if I needed to. Unfortunately, being several years old, they died a few weeks ago.
I ended up picking up a pair of JLab Epic 2 BT earbuds at Sam's and have been using those. They are ok, but I never get a good enough fit, they block out all ambient sound which I don't really like, and now they completely died after just about 3 weeks (just read that's happened to other people as well). So I'm going to bring these back for a return.
Any recommendations? Ideally, I'd like to get an over the ear set now that I've tried these but I'm still open to the idea of ear buds. I don't care as much about the sound quality of music, only that I can hear it. Bigger preference for me is comfort and ease of fit and staying in place while running.
Brony
Footballguy
Interesting timing. I recently had a pair die. After much experimentation of about 6 to 8 earbuds over the last few years, I had been loving VAVA moov 11 earbuds. When they work, they are awesome, but pair #1 lasted 8 months and pair #2 lasted 2 weeks.
I just ordered MuveAcoustics and they will show up tonight. I'll keep you posted. My needs are (1) better stay in place while running even with sweat. (2) volume controls on the wire, (3) good sound and (4) ideally 90 angle on the jack so that it doesn't bend in my running sleeve.
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
Brony
Footballguy
I will add that I am not a fan of Bluetooth. One more thing that needs to stay charged and I haven't found one that doesn't bounce like I have a ponytail.
gianmarco
Footballguy
I'm only really interested in BT, unfortunately. Don't want to deal with wires from a belt or armband.
Ned
Footballguy
ChiefD
Footballguy
ChiefD
Footballguy
It's kind of hard to make fun of a guy who is pacing a race to help other people.
That being said, I'll be back tomorrow after I've had time to think up some witty comments.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Excuse me, sir, but I have a headlamp (never used) and I've run in the rain once. Let's be accurate here.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
It should work the opposite way. They should answer all the stock questions and you can decide if you want to pace them!
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
I only run with headphones in one ear. For years I bought cheap pairs at Ross, Marshalls, etc and just cut one of them off. Then I tried one specifically designed to be used as a single, something like this.
But a few months ago I bought the Jaybird Runs, and love them. I use just the right one whenever I run, and have used both a few times if sitting somewhere when I want to listen to some tunes. The only fear is it falling out and losing it, but that's only happened when I took my shirt off or messed with it or something. That and they only last 4-5 hours, so my long runs can push their limit, and obviously I can't use them in an ultra (but I don't usually listen to anything during races, anyway).
ETA: It's pretty decent when used for phone calls as well, which comes in handy when I get a work call when out on a run
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Juxtatarot
Footballguy
I have these. They are pretty good yet cheap. For some reason it sometimes falls out of my right ear (I'll have to push it back several times in a run) but fits better in my left.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Ward, don't you think you're being a little hard on the Beaver? After all, we're all in various stages of transition from being a FLM (
) to a BMF. It's really a life-long journey that we share together * .* Except for @SteelCurtain, aka "blind ref," who likes to train alone ("I run solo") whenthecorrectresponseis"irunsolobutItrainemotionallymentallyanddarnitevenspirituallywiththisamazinggroupofifriends."
gianmarco
Footballguy
Alright, just ordered a pair. They also come with a free pair of wired headphones . Also ordered a pair of these as they are similarly priced and reviews also seem to be excellent. I'll compare the two and don't mind having an extra set. If I love both, then who knows, maybe I'll end up sending them to someone who changes their avatar to one of my choosing.
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Spartans Rule
Footballguy
I had never thought to look at monthly miles before. I'm at 85, so I can preserve my rest day tomorrow. If I was in the 90s I might have joined you in being dumb. I'll make a hundred the goal for next month.
gianmarco
Footballguy
In all seriousness, I'm not OCD like most runners it seems. I don't care about stopping at 4.9 miles or hitting even numbers. My comment was somewhat in jest but I was thinking of getting out tomorrow anyway. When I did my base training in March/April, the Higdon plan had me running 7 days/week and I did well with it. MWF were always slow, 3 mile recovery days and they usually made me feel better after I ran them.
But, right now, the plan has me doing 4 pace miles on Saturday and then a 1:45 long run on Sunday (so about 11.5 miles for me), which is going to be put me at ~34 miles for the week. Looking at that, if I did 6 tomorrow that'll get me up to 40 and probably too big of a jump considering I've been at ~27 the last couple weeks.
So thanks for making me look at it closer just to make sure it wasn't a stupid idea. It looks like it is so I'll just take it easy tomorrow.
-OZ-
Footballguy
#### y'all
Mid 80s, with a 155SI.
my watch isn't speaking to my phone through Bluetooth so my runs don't count anyway
-OZ-
Footballguy
So you're saying the 2 year warranty might be worthwhile?
Am I the only one who detests running with his phone? I'll ride with it of course but not run.
Osaurus
Footballguy
#### y'all
Mid 80s, with a 155SI.
my watch isn't speaking to my phone through Bluetooth so my runs don't count anyway
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
I did if I wasn't wearing a pack until I got these shorts. Then I just recently got one of these so I can bring it with any shorts.
pbm107
Footballguy
gianmarco
Footballguy
I noticed my left arm was getting sore in the spot where I'd wear the arm band with my phone.
Now I'm just wearing my belt for every run and putting the phone in there. It doesn't bother me and helps me get used to it for the race anyway.
Those shorts look like something I might try, though. That would be nice.
Now I'm just wearing my belt for every run and putting the phone in there. It doesn't bother me and helps me get used to it for the race anyway.
Those shorts look like something I might try, though. That would be nice.
bushdocda
Footballguy
-OZ-
Footballguy
it's a cold front.
dude. You run like super long too. I haven't ran with water in a while but that's because I've stayed under 10 this summer.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Might have to pickup one of those belts. It would be better if they had the option to turn a light on.
gianmarco
Footballguy
I think I need to try this flip belt. That looks cool. Will it work with a larger phone?
pbm107
Footballguy
I am usually within 3-4 miles of a water fountain. I haven’t run many long runs so far this year, but that will change in about 4 weeks.
ChiefD
Footballguy
In all seriousness, I'm not OCD like most runners it seems. I don't care about stopping at 4.9 miles or hitting even numbers. My comment was somewhat in jest but I was thinking of getting out tomorrow anyway. When I did my base training in March/April, the Higdon plan had me running 7 days/week and I did well with it. MWF were always slow, 3 mile recovery days and they usually made me feel better after I ran them.
But, right now, the plan has me doing 4 pace miles on Saturday and then a 1:45 long run on Sunday (so about 11.5 miles for me), which is going to be put me at ~34 miles for the week. Looking at that, if I did 6 tomorrow that'll get me up to 40 and probably too big of a jump considering I've been at ~27 the last couple weeks.
So thanks for making me look at it closer just to make sure it wasn't a stupid idea. It looks like it is so I'll just take it easy tomorrow.
Dude, you are starting to sound like me. We only need one wishy-washy wank here.
bushdocda
Footballguy
Not sure but it’s made from spandex stuff so it can probably stretch to handle the bigger new ones. Prob is mentioned in amazon reviews.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I love how chill most of your responses are because of your avi. It helped that Oz also called you dude. If only you didnt like the Eagles too...
ChiefD
Footballguy
12 year old had his first cross country meet today. They had a 1 mile time trial for their middle school team so they could place the kids in the appropriate mileage/group for their future meets. They ran it after a high school meet, so they had their uniforms on, timing chips, the whole bit. He was of course a little bit nervous, but I just told him:
Run your race. Push it when you can, and try and race this. Not just run it.
So the kids are lined up, and the starter goes out in front of them to fire the gun. He raises his arms, pulls the trigger....and.....nothing.
So he regroups, starts the procedure all over again, raises his arms, pulls the trigger....and......nothing. 
Finally, he roots around, pulls a whistle out of his pocket, and gets the race started. While I was standing there, I had my Tom-Tom on, because I was going to just get his time so I had an idea of where he was at the end. I'm standing there, HR is at 61 just standing there, and as soon as this guy begins the starting proceedings, my HR jumps to 89. Clearly I'M ready.
The guy goes off, and the first section is downhill. We had done enough runs together where he knows - kill the downhills and save a little energy on the uphills. This is his first race, so I was interested to see his execution. I was positioned about .4 miles from the starting point, and as it looped around he would pass me and then pass me again coming home.
After the initial rush down the hill, the next bit is a long uphill. He is nice and steady up this stretch, so I'm there to encourage him on. Mom was down the hill, so she had seen him already. She was at the finish line, and I was positioned up from the finish line, so he would see me coming back down the hill toward the finish.
He passes me going up the hill and disappears over the horizon. So now I'm sitting there waiting. After about 9 minutes, we still haven't seen the rabbits come back. The leaders should have been long past, but something isn't right. At that point I realize - this course ain't 1 mile.
In a few seconds, they start coming over the hill. Several minutes after that, I see my son. As he's coming down the hill, I shout out to him:
"You are downhill. Time to push the pace. Your heart rate is gonna go down here. You got this." After the words came outta my mouth, I realized what a nerd I am. Thanks @Ned.
And he then starts to fly. He starts pumping the pace, so I start following about 15 yards behind. He is pushing hard here - by my watch he was running an 8:00 pace for the last .30 of a mile. Just killing it. He crosses the line at 18:05.
We find out later the course was measured at 1.86!
. Just a bit off.
His pace: 9:43/mile
His previous best when we were doing our previous running was 12:23!
When I told him this later, he had the best smile his face. I'm not sure he thought he did that great, but I assured him that he smoked his previous best. And THAT'S what he is racing against.
A good day.
Run your race. Push it when you can, and try and race this. Not just run it.
So the kids are lined up, and the starter goes out in front of them to fire the gun. He raises his arms, pulls the trigger....and.....nothing.
So he regroups, starts the procedure all over again, raises his arms, pulls the trigger....and......nothing. Finally, he roots around, pulls a whistle out of his pocket, and gets the race started. While I was standing there, I had my Tom-Tom on, because I was going to just get his time so I had an idea of where he was at the end. I'm standing there, HR is at 61 just standing there, and as soon as this guy begins the starting proceedings, my HR jumps to 89.
Clearly I'M ready.The guy goes off, and the first section is downhill. We had done enough runs together where he knows - kill the downhills and save a little energy on the uphills. This is his first race, so I was interested to see his execution. I was positioned about .4 miles from the starting point, and as it looped around he would pass me and then pass me again coming home.
After the initial rush down the hill, the next bit is a long uphill. He is nice and steady up this stretch, so I'm there to encourage him on. Mom was down the hill, so she had seen him already. She was at the finish line, and I was positioned up from the finish line, so he would see me coming back down the hill toward the finish.
He passes me going up the hill and disappears over the horizon. So now I'm sitting there waiting. After about 9 minutes, we still haven't seen the rabbits come back. The leaders should have been long past, but something isn't right. At that point I realize - this course ain't 1 mile.
In a few seconds, they start coming over the hill. Several minutes after that, I see my son. As he's coming down the hill, I shout out to him:
"You are downhill. Time to push the pace. Your heart rate is gonna go down here. You got this." After the words came outta my mouth, I realized what a nerd I am. Thanks @Ned.
And he then starts to fly. He starts pumping the pace, so I start following about 15 yards behind. He is pushing hard here - by my watch he was running an 8:00 pace for the last .30 of a mile. Just killing it. He crosses the line at 18:05.
We find out later the course was measured at 1.86!
. Just a bit off. His pace: 9:43/mile
His previous best when we were doing our previous running was 12:23!
When I told him this later, he had the best smile his face. I'm not sure he thought he did that great, but I assured him that he smoked his previous best. And THAT'S what he is racing against.A good day.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Do you usually stop to drink these days?
That’s one of my biggest changes over the years. I used to always drink a lot and never strayed too far from home so I could refill. Now, I hardly ever drink. I’ll sometimes bring a bottle on long runs (20 oz., I think) put don’t always finish the bottle. Morning running makes this easier to do, I think.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
JShare87
Footballguy
I never drink anything on my runs. The only time I do is on Saturdays when I venture out over 14 miles.
pbm107
Footballguy
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pbm107
Footballguy
On runs over 9 in the summer months I will stop at a water fountain. The more common scenario is that I stop to use a restroom.
jb1020
Footballguy
Logged 53 miles in August. Thats my highest mileage since Nov 2016. Plus I had 1 or 2 bike rides each week.
I feel like I can do more, but trying to keep it in the 10-15% increase rule. Probably not necessary for guys like me though.
Runs are all feeling good, even in the muggy condition.
I feel like I can do more, but trying to keep it in the 10-15% increase rule. Probably not necessary for guys like me though.
Runs are all feeling good, even in the muggy condition.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
281 miles for me for August. I ran every day and it's my first consistent month since I was marathon training this winter and spring.
Although I've sometimes ran over 300 mile months, I'm surprised with how much ground I regained so quickly. In fact, my mile repeats workout yesterday was faster and not as terrible as I've ever done before. I was a little apprehensive about this early September 5K with Tri-man and Brony but now I feel like I have a legitimate PR shot.
Although I've sometimes ran over 300 mile months, I'm surprised with how much ground I regained so quickly. In fact, my mile repeats workout yesterday was faster and not as terrible as I've ever done before. I was a little apprehensive about this early September 5K with Tri-man and Brony but now I feel like I have a legitimate PR shot.
bushdocda
Footballguy
Sick. Briefly, how was the progression to ‘needing’ less rest days or do your easy days really give you the rest you need?
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Yes, the latter is my opinion. An easy 6 mile day is enough recovery. When I start taking days off, I notice my average heart rate goes up pretty quickly.
Also, it helps that I rarely pre-decide on a specific pace for a run. If I feel more tired, I run slower. If I feel fresher, I pick it up. My body knows, I just have to listen to it.
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MAC_32
Footballguy
I'm experiencing it right now and while I'm nowhere near where @Juxtatarot is I'm starting to feel the same. I started taking rest days when my body said to after 16's marathon and once recovered from Spring 18's marathon I've noticed it takes longer and longer to get to that point. Granted my easy days are a whole lot easier than his though.
Zasada
Footballguy
I'm a little late to the discussion here, but I absolutely love the Plantronics Backbeat Fit:gianmarco said:
- Bluetooth, 6-8 hour battery life
- Hooks over my ears and never falls off when hiking/running
- Not in-ear (I hate in-ear) so I can hear them but also hear my surroundings
- Water-resistant
- Good for phone calls
