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Juxtatarot
Footballguy
A group of blue jays by me is called a bond or a party. Interesting that your Wisconsin ones are more like wolves.
Zasada
Footballguy
First unintentional DNF yesterday.
Completed the distance but missed cutoff.
Dr_Zaius
Footballguy
What an insane race with that much vertical. I don’t know how you ultra guys do 50 miles and beyond. So impressive, missed cutoffs or not.First unintentional DNF yesterday.
Completed the distance but missed cutoff.
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
3. With crazy amounts of elevation.Well, there are two ways to look at this @Zasada .
1. You missed the cutoff.
2. You ran 75 ****ing miles!!!
I shall take #2. Awesome job, man.
beer 30
Footballguy
Here's a new one for you slackers
Dr_Zaius
Footballguy
It's of course amazingly impressive, but the one thing that struck me as strange is the race crowning the female winner based on chip time rather than gun time. It's odd when you can't know who won when they actually cross the finish line.
pbm107
Footballguy
Dealing with some knee soreness, I don’t think it is anything significant but annoying nevertheless. I am trying to be cautious with it, but getting frustrated with the minor injuries that seem to being occurring now more than ever. Thanks for asking and hope that your body allows you to train as much as you’d like.
MAC_32
Footballguy
My body's not allowing me to do what I want, but I've found a routine that's...good enough. While I've gained way too much weight, a lot of it is good weight. Pre-vacation I had a 6 week stretch in which I got at least 4 strength training sessions in each week. Squat isn't up to what I want it to be, but I think I departed for the beach ready to take a leap once on the other side (starting in about 2 hours). Upper body strength is as strong as it's been since my personal training days and that will only grow as I level up leg strength. And most importantly, I'm able to do most other activities I want to do, and do them well - golf, basketball, whiffleball, backyard QB'ing. That said, my balance is a mess (limited water activities) and nagging aches (feet, calves, hip, back) still surface when I spend too much time on my feet. I've decided to shift my focus towards that when the weather turns late calendar year. In the meantime, hoping to at least net 15-20 mpw around everything else I'm doing, but it'll be mostly of the recreational jogger miles. C'est la'vie
MAC_32
Footballguy
That 167 suck was just lovely
MAC_32
Footballguy
I wouldn't call it bragging rights as much as me continuing to not learn my lesson about setting an alarm in the morning.I had 85/76 this morning for a 161 SI, but I see that’s not even good enough for bragging rights around here
-OZ-
Footballguy
Unfortunately the group I’m mentoring meets on Monday evening. I figured I’d be ok to run 4 before we met to run 6. 93° with a dew point on the 70s sucked. It got better when the rest of the team showed up and we ran at 6 - it dropped to 88°I wouldn't call it bragging rights as much as me continuing to not learn my lesson about setting an alarm in the morning.I had 85/76 this morning for a 161 SI, but I see that’s not even good enough for bragging rights around here
Tonight we ride at 530, when it will be 93° with 76° dew point. So, 169 should be glorious.
Sunday’s ride started at 73°, 94% humidity (I didn’t look at dew), ended around 90°. And I learned the dollar general is a lifesaver when I bought an energy drink and Gatorade.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Hey guys, remember me??! 
Even though running sucks, been very slowly getting back to it so I don't kill myself in November.
Texted a couple of you about this, but I've decided I'm going to try a run/walk approach for NYC. I've seen others do it in races and read a bit more about it recently and it's supposed to help limit injury and overall easier on the body and it just makes too much sense for me at this point, especially the paces I would be "running".
I have no time target. Just finish. Initially figured I'd train and run this as a HM and then just walk and/or run whatever I could to the end. But, now with this, it also let's me actually try it with training. And with this stupid heat....
So I did it yesterday for the first time. It's interesting. Reminds me of when I did MAF for a bit. It's mentally engaging and I definitely felt better and enjoyed it than if I just straight ran. Did 2 miles of it yesterday morning and another 3 last night.
Anyway, I used ChatGPT to give me a plan and looking at it, it seems reasonable. I'll post it separately in a moment and welcome any feedback to this nonsense.
I see some of you are still running. That's cool.
Even though running sucks, been very slowly getting back to it so I don't kill myself in November.
Texted a couple of you about this, but I've decided I'm going to try a run/walk approach for NYC. I've seen others do it in races and read a bit more about it recently and it's supposed to help limit injury and overall easier on the body and it just makes too much sense for me at this point, especially the paces I would be "running".
I have no time target. Just finish. Initially figured I'd train and run this as a HM and then just walk and/or run whatever I could to the end. But, now with this, it also let's me actually try it with training. And with this stupid heat....
So I did it yesterday for the first time. It's interesting. Reminds me of when I did MAF for a bit. It's mentally engaging and I definitely felt better and enjoyed it than if I just straight ran. Did 2 miles of it yesterday morning and another 3 last night.
Anyway, I used ChatGPT to give me a plan and looking at it, it seems reasonable. I'll post it separately in a moment and welcome any feedback to this nonsense.
I see some of you are still running. That's cool.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Dr_Zaius
Footballguy
Great to see you back in the thread and also back on Strava with some runs.
The run/walk idea always made a lot of logical sense to me, so I'm curious to see how it works out for you, especially since you have some full run marathons in your past to compare it to. For myself I'd worry about fighting the inner voice to extend the walk breaks as I got tired, but maybe like anything else you just get used to the routine?
One thing I did notice with briefly doing run/walk in my training before the 40 miler is that it didn't help much as far as making the heat more bearable, which surprised me.
beer 30
Footballguy
I'm sure you've run across Jeff Galloway in your research. I tried the method back in the day and it didn't work for me then but I didn't invest any mental capacity into either. It's just a weird change when you're used to running a straight 10k or whatever. It really is mentally challenging to stop mid stride and walk for XX amount of time then pick up running again in XX amount of time, yada, yada, yada. But when you are sorta kinda starting over or after a long layoff, I could definitely see the merit to it, especially if you're just trying to finish a race with no time expectation.Hey guys, remember me??!
Even though running sucks, been very slowly getting back to it so I don't kill myself in November.
Texted a couple of you about this, but I've decided I'm going to try a run/walk approach for NYC. I've seen others do it in races and read a bit more about it recently and it's supposed to help limit injury and overall easier on the body and it just makes too much sense for me at this point, especially the paces I would be "running".
I have no time target. Just finish. Initially figured I'd train and run this as a HM and then just walk and/or run whatever I could to the end. But, now with this, it also let's me actually try it with training. And with this stupid heat....
So I did it yesterday for the first time. It's interesting. Reminds me of when I did MAF for a bit. It's mentally engaging and I definitely felt better and enjoyed it than if I just straight ran. Did 2 miles of it yesterday morning and another 3 last night.
Anyway, I used ChatGPT to give me a plan and looking at it, it seems reasonable. I'll post it separately in a moment and welcome any feedback to this nonsense.
I see some of you are still running. That's cool.
Good luck, saw you on Strava the other day and thought maybe you hit your watch when you were being chased by the cops or something
gianmarco
Footballguy
It does wonders getting my HR back down, which is always an issue for me. The heat itself doesn't bother me. The constant fluid loss from sweating does.
And honestly, if I end up walking longer/more during the race, I don't care. But, that's also why I'm going to train doing it.
Doing a 15-16 min/mile walk pace actually isn't "easy", so I'll play with it as the distances get longer, but I think it'll work for me.
Plus, I think I'll really enjoy the "race" more in this setting being able to take it all in with the location and everyone around. It's why I even agreed to do this one.
Zasada
Footballguy
Adopting the "I don't care about my time, I'm just going to enjoy it" approach for Boston was awesome. You've already proven you can race a marathon, nothing to prove here. So your plan to enjoy it is a good one. If I ever got into NY, I'd do the same.
gianmarco
Footballguy
xulf
Footballguy
The Iguana
Footballguy
Dr_Zaius
Footballguy
I ran past a Red-winged blackbird over the weekend, which always makes me think of juxt. I see them fairly regularly but somehow have never run across an aggressive jerk one like he did.
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
Great news! Want to be my co-pacer with my pacing group at NYC Marathon??!?!?!?Hey guys, remember me??!
Even though running sucks, been very slowly getting back to it so I don't kill myself in November.
Texted a couple of you about this, but I've decided I'm going to try a run/walk approach for NYC. I've seen others do it in races and read a bit more about it recently and it's supposed to help limit injury and overall easier on the body and it just makes too much sense for me at this point, especially the paces I would be "running".
I have no time target. Just finish. Initially figured I'd train and run this as a HM and then just walk and/or run whatever I could to the end. But, now with this, it also let's me actually try it with training. And with this stupid heat....
So I did it yesterday for the first time. It's interesting. Reminds me of when I did MAF for a bit. It's mentally engaging and I definitely felt better and enjoyed it than if I just straight ran. Did 2 miles of it yesterday morning and another 3 last night.
Anyway, I used ChatGPT to give me a plan and looking at it, it seems reasonable. I'll post it separately in a moment and welcome any feedback to this nonsense.
I see some of you are still running. That's cool.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
I've only seen turkeys twice while running by where I live. I got chased by a tom for maybe 10 to 20 yards one of those times. Nothing like that, though! If only all birds were like herons.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Sure!Great news! Want to be my co-pacer with my pacing group at NYC Marathon??!?!?!?Hey guys, remember me??!
Even though running sucks, been very slowly getting back to it so I don't kill myself in November.
Texted a couple of you about this, but I've decided I'm going to try a run/walk approach for NYC. I've seen others do it in races and read a bit more about it recently and it's supposed to help limit injury and overall easier on the body and it just makes too much sense for me at this point, especially the paces I would be "running".
I have no time target. Just finish. Initially figured I'd train and run this as a HM and then just walk and/or run whatever I could to the end. But, now with this, it also let's me actually try it with training. And with this stupid heat....
So I did it yesterday for the first time. It's interesting. Reminds me of when I did MAF for a bit. It's mentally engaging and I definitely felt better and enjoyed it than if I just straight ran. Did 2 miles of it yesterday morning and another 3 last night.
Anyway, I used ChatGPT to give me a plan and looking at it, it seems reasonable. I'll post it separately in a moment and welcome any feedback to this nonsense.
I see some of you are still running. That's cool.
We doing the 5:45 group?
Dr_Zaius
Footballguy
There's a truck yard along one of my less frequently used running routes that apparently has both a guard dog and a guard turkey. Both times I'm seen the tom he just watched me go by, but I'm on the opposite side of the street from his watchpost as that's where the sidewalk is. I'm curious what he'd do if I ran on his side of the road, but not curious enough to try it.
Dr_Zaius
Footballguy
Have a 15K trail race with ~1500ft of elevation on the 20th. Extremely popular local race that I did in 2015, 2017, and 2018, with my PR of 1:25
x in 2017. I was thinking I could maybe take a crack at besting that PR, but after doing 95% of the course last night I'm a little unsure what my strategy should be. I've been pretty good about my long runs and so was pretty pleased about being able to cruise at a decent clip for the flattish and downhill sections even in the heat and when tired, but the hills kicked my ***. I forgot how many 10%+ grade sections there are and I clearly haven't done enough hill work. I'll probably do a hill repeat cram session Saturday but it's too late at this point to do more than that.
The course clearly calls for power hiking the worst of the hills, but it's so easy to let your tiredness cloud your judgment and be too quick on the "time to walk" trigger, which is what led me to a disappointing 1:30x in 2018. On the other hand, most of the worst hills are in the first half, so if one is too aggressive you can completely shred your legs and have a hot sufferfest for the whole back half. I'm thinking of maybe trying to preplan walking based on the elevation profile and my 2017 run, and hopefully my cardio will allow me to chew up the relatively easy section from roughly 4.3-7.7, then gut out the two brutal climbs at the end.
x in 2017. I was thinking I could maybe take a crack at besting that PR, but after doing 95% of the course last night I'm a little unsure what my strategy should be. I've been pretty good about my long runs and so was pretty pleased about being able to cruise at a decent clip for the flattish and downhill sections even in the heat and when tired, but the hills kicked my ***. I forgot how many 10%+ grade sections there are and I clearly haven't done enough hill work. I'll probably do a hill repeat cram session Saturday but it's too late at this point to do more than that.The course clearly calls for power hiking the worst of the hills, but it's so easy to let your tiredness cloud your judgment and be too quick on the "time to walk" trigger, which is what led me to a disappointing 1:30
x in 2018. On the other hand, most of the worst hills are in the first half, so if one is too aggressive you can completely shred your legs and have a hot sufferfest for the whole back half. I'm thinking of maybe trying to preplan walking based on the elevation profile and my 2017 run, and hopefully my cardio will allow me to chew up the relatively easy section from roughly 4.3-7.7, then gut out the two brutal climbs at the end.
Zasada
Footballguy
It's that time of year in DFW when I get into this running funk. It's so hot that every run, even at an easy pace, feels like a slog. And every run is slow. Can't bring myself to force any kind of pace or intervals. Long runs (13+ miles) are off the table.
Intellectually, I know that I just need to keep at it, and when temps cool I'll realize the benefits and be able (willing) to run faster paces. But right now it just feels like I suck.
That is all.
Intellectually, I know that I just need to keep at it, and when temps cool I'll realize the benefits and be able (willing) to run faster paces. But right now it just feels like I suck.
That is all.
Dr_Zaius
Footballguy
Timely post, as Garmin just docked me a VO2Max point, dropping me to my lowest since 2023, and the "race predictor" has been slowly getting slower every week since the weather heated up. I wish it gave me the proper "suck index" credit.
I've been experimenting with an "ice bandana" around my neck for some of my runs and it seems to help with the overheating.
The Iguana
Footballguy
Could be worse... You could have quit running, gained 45 pounds, and actually suck while still dealing with ridiculous heat and humidity.
That said, this is week 4 of doing this and I'm hating it a little bit less each day. Working on slowly adding a little more distance and losing some of the weight.
ChiefD
Footballguy
55 degrees here in northern wisconsin right now. Might have to throw an extra blanket on tonight.
Dr_Zaius
Footballguy
Careful, you're giving folks like jshare carte blanche to talk about it being a bit chilly while you're stuck putting three socks over your dong in January.
Zasada
Footballguy
Yes, I've seen on Strava that you've strung together a number of runs, nice work. Keep it up!
The Iguana
Footballguy
I have worked my way back up to 4x a week this week and did about 20 miles this week. Trying my best to keep the pace slow and get my HR down but that's tough with the heat/humidity/dew point being what it is. But it is finally starting to stay in the 140s for most of a 5 mile run and top out at about 160 +/- by the end, depending on exactly how hot it is when I get out there. That said, I'm only averaging a pace between 10 and 10:30ish/mile. I've dropped almost 10 lbs over the last 5 weeks while starting to build some kind of base.
It is a total bummer, however, that I had to dig like 4 pages to even find this thread.
It is a total bummer, however, that I had to dig like 4 pages to even find this thread.
The Iguana
Footballguy
You guys make me sad. I'm running just to run over here and get in shape but makes me sad this goes weeks without anything being posted. But what are you going to do? I have now run more this year than any year since 2022, which isn't saying much. I mean if I can keep up what I'm doing recently for about 2 or 3 more weeks, I will have run more this year than the previous 2 years combined so. And, if I can stay "on the wagon" until the end of the year, I should have more miles this year than the previous 3 years combined.
Sand
Footballguy
I still ride regularly, just no big items to post. In a few weeks headed with the wife to ride the GAP and C&O trails, so maybe have something post worthy then.
The Iguana
Footballguy
The Iguana
Footballguy
No shovel reports?
Dr_Zaius
Footballguy
I've been doing 3 runs a week. I'd call it "maintenance," but Garmin keeps docking me time in its race predictor so maybe it's not quite that. I'd like to think that's heat related (and I swear the heat affects me more now that it did even a few years back), but who knows?
At any rate, I'm starting to do some speedwork to try to get ready for 5Ks at Thanksgiving and New Years. I may be reluctantly adding a Halloween 5K to that as well - one of my coworkers seems to be catching the running bug and is trying to get several of us to run in that.
At any rate, I'm starting to do some speedwork to try to get ready for 5Ks at Thanksgiving and New Years. I may be reluctantly adding a Halloween 5K to that as well - one of my coworkers seems to be catching the running bug and is trying to get several of us to run in that.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I won't speak for others, but I stopped posting as much in here because I felt I was bringing the thread down with my updates. I've not been able to string together more than a handful of active weeks (3-4 hours) in a row together since spring 23 without getting injured. That said, I re-discovered my love of technical running / hiking this summer...but am woefully out of shape.
While I'm very proud of this effort, I was humbled by this one. This was something I already knew, but now I have data to confirm. I compared Saturday's workout to this from 8 years ago and it shows just how far my performance has fallen. I was gasping for air 4+ miles in, telling myself just get to 5, and other than one stair climb the rest is all downhill. Eight years ago I went double the distance, had zero miles under 10 min pace, and rocked out a 6:50 finisher mile 11 despite covering ~1700 feet in elevation prior. Hopefully this 'new' habit both sticks and my body allows it to sustain and I'll be back to ~80% of where I was this time next year, but it's going to be a long, disciplined slug back...if it happens.
The Iguana
Footballguy
Oh, I disappeared from here almost all together. Back when I first found you guys I was starting to get into shape and eventually went from about 240 all the way down to about 192 and got into the best shape I had been in since high school. But over the last 2 years, I totally fell off the wagon and, by the mid/end of June, was all the way back up to almost 240 and in as bad of shape as I have ever been.
But I committed to trying to change things again. Over the last 8 weeks, I have slowly built myself back up to running 4x a week and about 5 miles per outing. Longest run was this past Saturday when I went 7 miles. I'm down about 14 pounds and just trying to build good habits and enjoy myself out there. I have no expectations right now, just trying to make good choices. The final kick in the pants to get moving again was @tri-man 47 's updates on his progress. Dude just went through hell and back and was out running longer and faster than I could think of doing. Total inspiration to quit being a fat, lazy, old man - I mean, compared to him I'm still a spring chicken. But he is the baddest of BMF's there ever was.
But I committed to trying to change things again. Over the last 8 weeks, I have slowly built myself back up to running 4x a week and about 5 miles per outing. Longest run was this past Saturday when I went 7 miles. I'm down about 14 pounds and just trying to build good habits and enjoy myself out there. I have no expectations right now, just trying to make good choices. The final kick in the pants to get moving again was @tri-man 47 's updates on his progress. Dude just went through hell and back and was out running longer and faster than I could think of doing. Total inspiration to quit being a fat, lazy, old man - I mean, compared to him I'm still a spring chicken. But he is the baddest of BMF's there ever was.
