Rand Paul (5 Viewers)

[Fennis]

Maybe this win him some support:

The strangest episode of Paul's time at Baylor occurred one afternoon in 1983 (although memories about all of these events are understandably a bit hazy, so the date might be slightly off), when he and a NoZe brother paid a visit to a female student who was one of Paul's teammates on the Baylor swim team. According to this woman, who requested anonymity because of her current job as a clinical psychologist, "He and Randy came to my house, they knocked on my door, and then they blindfolded me, tied me up, and put me in their car. They took me to their apartment and tried to force me to take bong hits. They'd been smoking pot." After the woman refused to smoke with them, Paul and his friend put her back in their car and drove to the countryside outside of Waco, where they stopped near a creek. "They told me their god was 'Aqua Buddha' and that I needed to bow down and worship him," the woman recalls. "They blindfolded me and made me bow down to 'Aqua Buddha' in the creek. I had to say, 'I worship you Aqua Buddha, I worship you.' At Baylor, there were people actively going around trying to save you and we had to go to chapel, so worshiping idols was a big no-no."

Unless it involves a live boy or a dead hooker something like this won't move the needle.

Republicans don't look kindly on drug using atheists.

 

[Fennis]

Maybe this win him some support:

The strangest episode of Paul's time at Baylor occurred one afternoon in 1983 (although memories about all of these events are understandably a bit hazy, so the date might be slightly off), when he and a NoZe brother paid a visit to a female student who was one of Paul's teammates on the Baylor swim team. According to this woman, who requested anonymity because of her current job as a clinical psychologist, "He and Randy came to my house, they knocked on my door, and then they blindfolded me, tied me up, and put me in their car. They took me to their apartment and tried to force me to take bong hits. They'd been smoking pot." After the woman refused to smoke with them, Paul and his friend put her back in their car and drove to the countryside outside of Waco, where they stopped near a creek. "They told me their god was 'Aqua Buddha' and that I needed to bow down and worship him," the woman recalls. "They blindfolded me and made me bow down to 'Aqua Buddha' in the creek. I had to say, 'I worship you Aqua Buddha, I worship you.' At Baylor, there were people actively going around trying to save you and we had to go to chapel, so worshiping idols was a big no-no."

Unless it involves a live boy or a dead hooker something like this won't move the needle.

Republicans don't look kindly on drug using atheists.

well check that... he came our as Pro-Life. All is forgiven.

 

[Rush Limbaugh Fan]

Please nominate Paul...instant Dem win.

No doubt about it. Once the general public gets wind of the some of the positions he has held in the past, (particularly his criticism of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, making it illegal for private businesses to discriminate on the basis of race Link) if he gets the nomination he will fare about the as well as Barry Goldwater did.

If Democrats were given a choice of a serious possible candidate to face in 2016, Paul would probably be the overwhelming favorite, with Rubio a distant second.

Yeah! Let's hope the other team puts up a ####ty candidate so my teams' ####ty candidate can win and continue doing the same ####ty things as all the rest of them!

A ####ty Dem candidate beats a ####ty republican all day long.

Say hi to President John Kerry for me.

If only.

 

[Trey]

I imagine Hillary gets as close to 55% popular vote as possible in today's political climate if Paul is her opponent in 2016.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

This might be enough for him to get my vote.

 

[Fennis]

This might be enough for him to get my vote.

I almost started a thread on the topic. Absolutely fantastic. As is his introduction of his "third way" as a way to attract bipartisan support and support of minorities to the GOP. He is becoming very interesting to me..

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/07/25/rand-paul-lays-out-his-third-way-proposals-to-attract-minorities-to-the-gop/

 

[Fennis]

I mean who would expect this to come from a republican?

http://www.paul.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=1203

Washington, DC - U.S. Senators Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Ben Cardin (D-Md.) today hosted a briefing on solutions to end the disenfranchisement of individuals with past criminal convictions. The Senators were joined by an expert panel of witnesses who spoke of the national and local importance of restoring voting rights to millions of Americans who are currently out of prison but not fully able to claim a stake in their community due to a weak patch work of state laws.

"Our criminal justice system is broken. I recently introduced the Civil Rights Voting Restoration Act, a bill that would restore Federal voting rights for non-violent criminals. Additionally, I am working on legislation to reform federal drug laws to reduce the incarceration rate for non-violent offenders. I look forward to continuing to work with Senator Ben Cardin on this issue and towards finding a solution to restore voting rights in this country," Senator Paul said.

 

[Slapdash]

Hope he runs.

 

[Jobber]

Hope he runs.

I already abandoned the GOP as of the 2012 election cycle. A Paul run would be glorious.

 

[Rubi]

I mean who would expect this to come from a republican?

http://www.paul.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=1203

Washington, DC - U.S. Senators Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Ben Cardin (D-Md.) today hosted a briefing on solutions to end the disenfranchisement of individuals with past criminal convictions. The Senators were joined by an expert panel of witnesses who spoke of the national and local importance of restoring voting rights to millions of Americans who are currently out of prison but not fully able to claim a stake in their community due to a weak patch work of state laws.

"Our criminal justice system is broken. I recently introduced the Civil Rights Voting Restoration Act, a bill that would restore Federal voting rights for non-violent criminals. Additionally, I am working on legislation to reform federal drug laws to reduce the incarceration rate for non-violent offenders. I look forward to continuing to work with Senator Ben Cardin on this issue and towards finding a solution to restore voting rights in this country," Senator Paul said.

Agreed,who would expect this of a Republican...he just lost the "base" of the GOP with this,it's much to far to the right to agree with him on this one.

 

[Slapdash]

Hope he runs.

I already abandoned the GOP as of the 2012 election cycle. A Paul run would be glorious.

This liberal would certainly vote Paul over Clinton.

 

[SacramentoBob]

I see he's doing a better job of covering up his racism than his dad did.

 

[Todd Andrews]

I couldnt vote for him, but it sure would be interesting.

 

[Slapdash]

I couldnt vote for him, but it sure would be interesting.

Felon?

 

[timschochet]

He is certainly gaining in popularity. His isolationism would be, IMO, disastrous for this country. But a lot of people seem to support it.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

I see he's doing a better job of covering up his racism than his dad did.

Marginally.

 

[urbanhack]

I see he's doing a better job of covering up his racism than his dad did.

Marginally.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I see he's doing a better job of covering up his racism than his dad did.

Marginally.

 

[Fennis]

I am curious to hear why you think he is hiding racism?

"Our nation has come a long way since the Civil Rights Movement. But we must realize that race still plays a role in the enforcement of the law.

Just ask Raliek, Daequon, and Wan’Tauhjs, who were just standing on a street corner when a policeman arrived and told them to move on or be arrested.

What was their crime?

I guess it was: “Waiting While Black”

The boys explained that they were waiting for a school bus to take them to their game. They were handcuffed and taken to jail.

Anyone who thinks that race does not still, even if inadvertently, skew the application of criminal justice is just not paying close enough attention.

If I told you that one out of three African-American males is [prohibited] by law from voting, you might think I was talking about Jim Crow, 50 years ago. Yet today a third of African-American males are still prevented from voting because of the war on drugs

 

[Chaka]

Hope he runs.

I already abandoned the GOP as of the 2012 election cycle. A Paul run would be glorious.

This liberal would certainly vote Paul over Clinton.

Independent here and I would be very interested in a Paul candidacy that actually had a chance.

Voted for his father once but I knew it was a throw-away vote at the time.

 

[meatwad1]

Maybe this win him some support:

The strangest episode of Paul's time at Baylor occurred one afternoon in 1983 (although memories about all of these events are understandably a bit hazy, so the date might be slightly off), when he and a NoZe brother paid a visit to a female student who was one of Paul's teammates on the Baylor swim team. According to this woman, who requested anonymity because of her current job as a clinical psychologist, "He and Randy came to my house, they knocked on my door, and then they blindfolded me, tied me up, and put me in their car. They took me to their apartment and tried to force me to take bong hits. They'd been smoking pot." After the woman refused to smoke with them, Paul and his friend put her back in their car and drove to the countryside outside of Waco, where they stopped near a creek. "They told me their god was 'Aqua Buddha' and that I needed to bow down and worship him," the woman recalls. "They blindfolded me and made me bow down to 'Aqua Buddha' in the creek. I had to say, 'I worship you Aqua Buddha, I worship you.' At Baylor, there were people actively going around trying to save you and we had to go to chapel, so worshiping idols was a big no-no."

Unless it involves a live boy or a dead hooker something like this won't move the needle.

Republicans don't look kindly on drug using atheists.

If this really happened, you would have to be a blithering idiot to think that he or his frat buddy was serious. Seriously baked maybe....

 

[meatwad1]

If he is the guy, I will vote for him just because he would be totally unpredictable. Latley, we have had two jerkoffs in a row who pretty much kowtow to whatever special interests guide them.

 

[Binky The Doormat]

I would vote for almost anyone against hillary.

 

[whoknew]

I would vote for almost anyone against hillary.

Why?

 

[SacramentoBob]

I would vote for almost anyone against hillary.

Why?

Because she's the exact kind of person who shouldn't be within 50,000 miles of the White House.

 

[joffer]

I would vote for almost anyone against hillary.

Why?

Because she's the exact kind of person who shouldn't be within 50,000 miles of the White House.

As opposed to whoever will be running against her?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I would vote for almost anyone against hillary.

Why?

Because she's the exact kind of person who shouldn't be within 50,000 miles of the White House.

As opposed to whoever will be running against her?

Yeah especially if it's the likes of Paul or Cruz. I know that I don't want any of those three in the white house, would be a mess. I've had it working with the current administration, any of the above would be exponentially worse IMO. Hell, I'd take Jeb Bush over any of them to be honest. I can't believe I'm saying that...

 

[SacramentoBob]

I don't want Cruz within 50,000 miles of the White House either.

 

[Politician Spock]

8 more years of the current 28 year Bush/Clinton/Obama regime...

OH HELL YEAH!!!

 

[timschochet]

8 more years of the current 28 year Bush/Clinton/Obama regime...

OH HELL YEAH!!!

I just don't get people with this kind of thinking. Whatever your opinion of Bush or Obama, how can you describe them as the same guy? Let's start with what is probably the most long lasting effect of a President: his court nominations. Take a look at the guys Bush appointed and whom Obama has appointed. Do they strike you as the same?

 

[Politician Spock]

8 more years of the current 28 year Bush/Clinton/Obama regime...

OH HELL YEAH!!!

I just don't get people with this kind of thinking. Whatever your opinion of Bush or Obama, how can you describe them as the same guy?Let's start with what is probably the most long lasting effect of a President: his court nominations. Take a look at the guys Bush appointed and whom Obama has appointed. Do they strike you as the same?

I look at them in whole.

I don't look at one of thousand different details and say "see, that detail is different... therefore they are different".

 

[timschochet]

8 more years of the current 28 year Bush/Clinton/Obama regime...

OH HELL YEAH!!!

I just don't get people with this kind of thinking. Whatever your opinion of Bush or Obama, how can you describe them as the same guy?Let's start with what is probably the most long lasting effect of a President: his court nominations. Take a look at the guys Bush appointed and whom Obama has appointed. Do they strike you as the same?

I look at them in whole.

I don't look at one of thousand different details and say "see, that detail is different... therefore they are different".

If you want to look at them as a whole, they are all pretty similar in that they are American Presidents who uphold American values. Extremists of any ilk might want somebody way out of the mainstream, but most of us don't.

Besides, those "details" are pretty significant IMO.

 

[Politician Spock]

8 more years of the current 28 year Bush/Clinton/Obama regime...

OH HELL YEAH!!!

I just don't get people with this kind of thinking. Whatever your opinion of Bush or Obama, how can you describe them as the same guy?Let's start with what is probably the most long lasting effect of a President: his court nominations. Take a look at the guys Bush appointed and whom Obama has appointed. Do they strike you as the same?

I look at them in whole.

I don't look at one of thousand different details and say "see, that detail is different... therefore they are different".

If you want to look at them as a whole, they are all pretty similar in that they are American Presidents who uphold American values. Extremists of any ilk might want somebody way out of the mainstream, but most of us don't.Besides, those "details" are pretty significant IMO.

There you go again. According to you I'm an extremist and want somebody way out of the mainstream.

#### you!!! I hate you!!!

Mods, give me my time out. I can't stand this guy!!!

 

[timschochet]

Lol. First off, I never wrote that you were an extremist or outside the mainstream. What I wrote is that Extremists may want somebody outside the mainstream but most of us don't. That doesn't necessarily apply to you.

Do I consider you an extremist? On some issues, not most. But then, I consider myself an extremist on some issues. I don't regard the term as a smear or an insult, and characterizing you was not my intent either. Your reaction was quite over the top.

 

[timschochet]

And mods please don't give him a time out on my account.

 

[Politician Spock]

Your reaction was quite over the top.

You continue to refuse to understand why you bother people. That makes you no different than MC Gas Money.

 

[timschochet]

Your reaction was quite over the top.

You continue to refuse to understand why you bother people. That makes you no different than MC Gas Money.

I didn't call you extremist!!

JFC. Now you're starting to bother me.

 

[meatwad1]

8 more years of the current 28 year Bush/Clinton/Obama regime...

OH HELL YEAH!!!

I just don't get people with this kind of thinking. Whatever your opinion of Bush or Obama, how can you describe them as the same guy?Let's start with what is probably the most long lasting effect of a President: his court nominations. Take a look at the guys Bush appointed and whom Obama has appointed. Do they strike you as the same?

Why on earth would they be the same? Nobody is arguing that either one does not carry his party's flag. What we arguing is that both are spineless twits, who do not think or fight in the face of adversity.

Both are poor, pathetic leaders and they are the main reason why our country sucks right now.

 

[meatwad1]

8 more years of the current 28 year Bush/Clinton/Obama regime...

OH HELL YEAH!!!

I just don't get people with this kind of thinking. Whatever your opinion of Bush or Obama, how can you describe them as the same guy?Let's start with what is probably the most long lasting effect of a President: his court nominations. Take a look at the guys Bush appointed and whom Obama has appointed. Do they strike you as the same?

I look at them in whole.

I don't look at one of thousand different details and say "see, that detail is different... therefore they are different".

If you want to look at them as a whole, they are all pretty similar in that they are American Presidents who uphold American values. Extremists of any ilk might want somebody way out of the mainstream, but most of us don't.

Besides, those "details" are pretty significant IMO.

What American values does Obama project?

Celebrity, laziness, graft, affirmative action, treason?

 

[timschochet]

8 more years of the current 28 year Bush/Clinton/Obama regime...

OH HELL YEAH!!!

I just don't get people with this kind of thinking. Whatever your opinion of Bush or Obama, how can you describe them as the same guy?Let's start with what is probably the most long lasting effect of a President: his court nominations. Take a look at the guys Bush appointed and whom Obama has appointed. Do they strike you as the same?

Why on earth would they be the same? Nobody is arguing that either one does not carry his party's flag. What we arguing is that both are spineless twits, who do not think or fight in the face of adversity.

Both are poor, pathetic leaders and they are the main reason why our country sucks right now.

You didn't argue that they were the same. But Politician Spock, by describing the "28 year Clinton/Bush/Obama regime", is saying that they're all the same.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

8 more years of the current 28 year Bush/Clinton/Obama regime...

OH HELL YEAH!!!

I just don't get people with this kind of thinking. Whatever your opinion of Bush or Obama, how can you describe them as the same guy?Let's start with what is probably the most long lasting effect of a President: his court nominations. Take a look at the guys Bush appointed and whom Obama has appointed. Do they strike you as the same?

I look at them in whole.I don't look at one of thousand different details and say "see, that detail is different... therefore they are different".

If you want to look at them as a whole, they are all pretty similar in that they are American Presidents who uphold American values. Extremists of any ilk might want somebody way out of the mainstream, but most of us don't.Besides, those "details" are pretty significant IMO.

There you go again. According to you I'm an extremist and want somebody way out of the mainstream.#### you!!! I hate you!!!

Mods, give me my time out. I can't stand this guy!!!

Just self ban yourself again.

 

[Binky The Doormat]

8 more years of the current 28 year Bush/Clinton/Obama regime...

OH HELL YEAH!!!

I just don't get people with this kind of thinking. Whatever your opinion of Bush or Obama, how can you describe them as the same guy?Let's start with what is probably the most long lasting effect of a President: his court nominations. Take a look at the guys Bush appointed and whom Obama has appointed. Do they strike you as the same?

I look at them in whole.

I don't look at one of thousand different details and say "see, that detail is different... therefore they are different".

If you want to look at them as a whole, they are all pretty similar in that they are American Presidents who uphold American values. Extremists of any ilk might want somebody way out of the mainstream, but most of us don't.Besides, those "details" are pretty significant IMO.

There you go again. According to you I'm an extremist and want somebody way out of the mainstream.

#### you!!! I hate you!!!

Mods, give me my time out. I can't stand this guy!!!

This is so "un-Spock-like." You're gonna have to change your name.

 

[sheerterror]

8 more years of the current 28 year Bush/Clinton/Obama regime...

OH HELL YEAH!!!

Well...yea...it's been working out great so far.

I love the set up. When one [party] sucks, just fall back to the other with the mentality of "let's just try this again." Let's nitpick the little things like stances on abortion and gay marriage while not paying attention to things like health care and our very expensive imperialistic habits that have created the massive debt that can literally never be paid off. Crap in, crap out. Time for a change. This country needs an independent who can actually stand up to the corporatism that has taken a stranglehold on our country. If you really think it makes a fraction of a difference whether its a democrat or a republican in office, you probably aren't looking at the bigger picture.

 

[Sabertooth]

I think him having the name "Rand" works against him. Ron Paul sounds like a person. Rand Paul sounds too much like Ayn Rand. His distopian name is bad marketing. Randall. Randy. ok fine, but Rand make him sound like a fictional character.

 

[Politician Spock]

8 more years of the current 28 year Bush/Clinton/Obama regime...

OH HELL YEAH!!!

I just don't get people with this kind of thinking. Whatever your opinion of Bush or Obama, how can you describe them as the same guy?Let's start with what is probably the most long lasting effect of a President: his court nominations. Take a look at the guys Bush appointed and whom Obama has appointed. Do they strike you as the same?

I look at them in whole.

I don't look at one of thousand different details and say "see, that detail is different... therefore they are different".

If you want to look at them as a whole, they are all pretty similar in that they are American Presidents who uphold American values. Extremists of any ilk might want somebody way out of the mainstream, but most of us don't.Besides, those "details" are pretty significant IMO.

There you go again. According to you I'm an extremist and want somebody way out of the mainstream.

#### you!!! I hate you!!!

Mods, give me my time out. I can't stand this guy!!!

This is so "un-Spock-like." You're gonna have to change your name.

It's the "politician" side of me.

 

[timschochet]

How many politicians go around saying "#### you! I hate you!"? Not gonna win a lot of votes that way...

 

[Rayderr]

How many politicians go around saying "#### you! I hate you!"? Not gonna win a lot of votes that way...

Bush called someone a "major league ###hole" at a campaign stop and still won reelection.

 

[Politician Spock]

How many politicians go around saying "#### you! I hate you!"? Not gonna win a lot of votes that way...

Bush called someone a "major league ###hole" at a campaign stop and still won reelection.

Sometimes a politician just has to call a spade a spade.

 

[humpback]

How many politicians go around saying "#### you! I hate you!"? Not gonna win a lot of votes that way...

If they said it about Putin they would...

 

[Chadstroma]

I think him having the name "Rand" works against him. Ron Paul sounds like a person. Rand Paul sounds too much like Ayn Rand. His distopian name is bad marketing. Randall. Randy. ok fine, but Rand make him sound like a fictional character.

His biggest drag will be that people who pay attention will see him as a repackaging of his father.... which to be fair, is basically what he is.