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Randy Moss restraining order (1 Viewer)
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mad sweeney
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Because he was trying to go down either a one way street the wrong way or a closed street and she was trying to do her job. Regardless of how fast he was going, when a person is in front of your car, you stop. Duh.He isn't the type to beat a woman? How do you know? Anyone can smack a woman in an anger moment. There was obviously an accident/incident that he had a part in that she got hurt from. She could've hurt her hand hitting him after he called her a bunch names, who knows. But how you can say he isn't the type is beyond me.az_prof said:He didn't "run into her"...she stood in front of his car and wouldn't move and he was going like 1 mile an hour. She wasn't hurt. Have you never seen a meter maid that acted like a #####? I have. I don't hold that incident against Moss. I believe Moss on this claim. He isn't the type to beat a woman. And if she was trying to extort money to keep the issue out of the news that shoots her credibility.Ghost Rider said:I didn't say he wasn't right. I was just saying that if a man once ran into a woman with his car, there is a pretty good chance that he would strike one with his hand, if angry or provoked.redman said:Technically, that was his front bumper, so he's right.Ghost Rider said:"Well, I want to make something clear. In my whole entire life of living, 30 years, I have never put my hand on one woman, physically or in an angry manner," says the guy who once ran into a woman with his car. Sure, Randy. We all believe you.
Please note that I am not jumping to the conclusion of him automatically being guilty, but given his past, it is not difficult for some of us to think that there might be some merit to this story.
Dude has half a dozen kids from his youth whose mother's don't get a dime from him and he won't even acknowledge. Just because he has one incident free (until now) season in NE doesn't turn him into a good guy. He's still a POS "straight cash homie" dirt bag.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
He's probably under direct orders from his lawyer to not to do so. Which is pretty standard. The fewer details he lets out, the less problems he may have in court. I would imagine that his lawyer is also trying to get a gag order put on the woman as well.Mr. PadresLakers said:
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Nothing really all that new here, but . . .
anyone got a link to the Ben Coats girlfriend clip that WEEI used to run.That was one nasty woman.
Actually, threads are closed or moved to the purged file where they don't show up when it has the potential to be explosive. We've done this while we run something down to try and verify. The size of the board has a lot do with it. When you guys break something, it takes off from here fast.But I hear what you're saying. Passions are high on both sides of this one.Jjonessed said:David Yudkin said:Speculation runs rampant around here and threads aren't closed. I know you are a big Pats fan, but they are big boys, I'm sure they don't need special moderation.
fatness
Footballguy
pettifogger
Footballguy
The Smoking Gun website has the petition up. It seems that you don't have to allege much to get a restraining order in Florida.
redman
Footballguy
Pretty amazing, eh counselor? You need clear and convincing evidence in California as a restraining order is a quasi-criminal matter that can go onto your criminal record if violated. That was an eye-opener to me when I did my first one for a client a few years back.
chook
Footballguy
Exactly.
freelander
Footballguy
oh man ,, Moss is toast for this next game. SD should just focus on Welker.
Its all startin' to fall apart for the perfect team....
Its all startin' to fall apart for the perfect team....
Gopher State
Footballguy
Former Minnesota Viking Randy Moss is in trouble again, and the allegation is that he struck a woman.
According to the Boston Herald newspaper and WDBO Radio (AM580) in Orlando, the New England Patriots star wide receiver is the target of a temporary injunction out of Broward County for protection.
The Herald reports that the court papers say that Moss committed "battery upon [the woman] causing serious injury. [Moss] refused to allow [her] to seek medical treatment."
Speaking to reporters today in Boston, Moss denied any wrongdoing. "I didn't hit no woman," he said. "I've never hit a woman."
Moss' attorney, Joe Friedberg, defended Moss, saying that the woman's injury was no more than one finger and that she was seeking no less than half a million dollars.
Moss would not be specific about what he and the woman were doing at the time that led to her injury.
Friedberg, while on KFAN Radio (AM 1130) Wednesday afternoon, also declined to be specific, but he said Moss and the woman were engaged in "consensual horseplay" at the time.
The affidavit also says that Moss cannot come within 500 feet of the victim and cannot use or possess firearms, the Herald and WDBO report. The Herald reported that the court papers say the alleged incident occurred Jan. 6 at the Fort Lauderdale home of a 35-year-old woman. The Herald added that the woman claims in the papers that she and Moss have been in an "intimate relationship since 1997."
The newspaper also said the woman claimed in her filing that Moss has guns and "a drug or alcohol problem."
On Jan. 6, the Patriots were starting a bye week before their first playoff game against Jacksonville.
A hearing in this latest case is scheduled on Jan. 28, the radio station said. No charges have been filed. The incident comes just days before the undefeated Patriots play the San Diego Chargers in the AFC championship game. The winner goes to the Super Bowl.
In Boston, Moss told reporters in the locker room at Gillette Stadium today that he did not hurt the woman, whom he described as a friend for 11 years who in "an accident ... she hurt herself."
Then, Moss, said to the crush of reporters, "they called my attorneys trying to get X amount of dollars out of me, and if we don't give X amount of dollars to her they're going to go to the press before the game."
He said the woman is seeking a six-figure amount.
Moss added: "I don't know the whole story of what's being said... this lady by no means is hurt. I want to make very clear in my whole entire life of living, 30 years, I've never put a hand on one woman physically in an angry manner."
Moss has had several run-ins with the law starting in high school. He served time for kicking a high school classmate. He was booted from Florida State University for using marijuana and arrested for bumping a Minneapolis traffic control agent with his car. He's also been fined many times for misdeeds on the football field.
According to the Boston Herald newspaper and WDBO Radio (AM580) in Orlando, the New England Patriots star wide receiver is the target of a temporary injunction out of Broward County for protection.
The Herald reports that the court papers say that Moss committed "battery upon [the woman] causing serious injury. [Moss] refused to allow [her] to seek medical treatment."
Speaking to reporters today in Boston, Moss denied any wrongdoing. "I didn't hit no woman," he said. "I've never hit a woman."
Moss' attorney, Joe Friedberg, defended Moss, saying that the woman's injury was no more than one finger and that she was seeking no less than half a million dollars.
Moss would not be specific about what he and the woman were doing at the time that led to her injury.
Friedberg, while on KFAN Radio (AM 1130) Wednesday afternoon, also declined to be specific, but he said Moss and the woman were engaged in "consensual horseplay" at the time.
The affidavit also says that Moss cannot come within 500 feet of the victim and cannot use or possess firearms, the Herald and WDBO report. The Herald reported that the court papers say the alleged incident occurred Jan. 6 at the Fort Lauderdale home of a 35-year-old woman. The Herald added that the woman claims in the papers that she and Moss have been in an "intimate relationship since 1997."
The newspaper also said the woman claimed in her filing that Moss has guns and "a drug or alcohol problem."
On Jan. 6, the Patriots were starting a bye week before their first playoff game against Jacksonville.
A hearing in this latest case is scheduled on Jan. 28, the radio station said. No charges have been filed. The incident comes just days before the undefeated Patriots play the San Diego Chargers in the AFC championship game. The winner goes to the Super Bowl.
In Boston, Moss told reporters in the locker room at Gillette Stadium today that he did not hurt the woman, whom he described as a friend for 11 years who in "an accident ... she hurt herself."
Then, Moss, said to the crush of reporters, "they called my attorneys trying to get X amount of dollars out of me, and if we don't give X amount of dollars to her they're going to go to the press before the game."
He said the woman is seeking a six-figure amount.
Moss added: "I don't know the whole story of what's being said... this lady by no means is hurt. I want to make very clear in my whole entire life of living, 30 years, I've never put a hand on one woman physically in an angry manner."
Moss has had several run-ins with the law starting in high school. He served time for kicking a high school classmate. He was booted from Florida State University for using marijuana and arrested for bumping a Minneapolis traffic control agent with his car. He's also been fined many times for misdeeds on the football field.
az_prof
Footballguy
I don't know how you know details about his family life but my experience is that these things are usually more complicated than you make out. If it is a fact that he is the father then the law makes sure the kids get plenty of dimes, so I am skeptical about what you are claiming.Bottom line is that Moss has never done anything that bad but he has been unfairly labelled a problem because a few over the hill, former football players who were never good enough to carry Moss's jock didn't like how he played and claim he 'took plays off'.Because he was trying to go down either a one way street the wrong way or a closed street and she was trying to do her job. Regardless of how fast he was going, when a person is in front of your car, you stop. Duh.That was her story and I have seen enough meter maids to know that they are more often than not FOS. Please...she wasn't hurt and you could just as easily say that you don't stand in front of a moving car, no matter how slowly it is going.He didn't "run into her"...she stood in front of his car and wouldn't move and he was going like 1 mile an hour. She wasn't hurt. Have you never seen a meter maid that acted like a #####? I have. I don't hold that incident against Moss. I believe Moss on this claim. He isn't the type to beat a woman. And if she was trying to extort money to keep the issue out of the news that shoots her credibility.I didn't say he wasn't right. I was just saying that if a man once ran into a woman with his car, there is a pretty good chance that he would strike one with his hand, if angry or provoked.Technically, that was his front bumper, so he's right."Well, I want to make something clear. In my whole entire life of living, 30 years, I have never put my hand on one woman, physically or in an angry manner," says the guy who once ran into a woman with his car. Sure, Randy. We all believe you.
Please note that I am not jumping to the conclusion of him automatically being guilty, but given his past, it is not difficult for some of us to think that there might be some merit to this story.
He isn't the type to beat a woman? How do you know? Anyone can smack a woman in an anger moment. There was obviously an accident/incident that he had a part in that she got hurt from. She could've hurt her hand hitting him after he called her a bunch names, who knows. But how you can say he isn't the type is beyond me.
He is a laid back and easy going guy. I don't know it with a hundred percent certainty, but I the burden of proof is on her to prove that he did.
Dude has half a dozen kids from his youth whose mother's don't get a dime from him and he won't even acknowledge. Just because he has one incident free (until now) season in NE doesn't turn him into a good guy. He's still a POS "straight cash homie" dirt bag.
Sorry, I can't let this comment go without a :X
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phthalatemagic
Footballguy
Way wrong here. I hope you don't personally use this as an excuse. Domestic violence is nothing to excuse away.
Road Warriors
Footballguy
Right on point.
BigJim®
Footballguy
I listened to the entire interview with Friedberg, and he gave some interesting information despite feigning that he couldn't get too specific. According to Friedberg:1. The accident did not happen out of anger, it was during horseplay.
2. The injury did not result from Moss hitting/pushing.
3. Moss did not stop her from seeking medical attention. He in fact left that residence 45 minutes after the accident.
4. The woman wanted Moss to come over again the following night, and he refused [implying she felt scorned].
5. The woman never called the police, the night of the accident or otherwise.
6. The woman went to see an attorney before seeking medical help of any kind for her alleged injury.
7. The woman saw a doctor at the advice of the attorney.
8. X-rays were taken and there was no noticeable damage. There was no cut, she did have a splint according to her attorney however.
9. The opposing attorney demanded no less than $500,000 or he would leak this story before a playoff game. Friedberg very candidly said there is a fine line between lawyering and extortion. He personally views this as an extortion case.
10. This is a purely civil matter. There is no expectation that anything that occcured will result in criminal charges of any kind.
Link to Friedberg Podcast
redman
Footballguy
I'd respectfully suggest you go back and read his quote, which in context indicates mad sweeney does not disagree with you. You might start by quoting his entire post, and what he was responding to.Way wrong here. I hope you don't personally use this as an excuse. Domestic violence is nothing to excuse away.
My thoughts exactly. It's just too weird. Pro football player strikes woman, she calls police, we have an issue. She seeks the advice of an attorney first, and is willing to accept cash to the tune of $500k and it's all better? Very, very strange.
I absolutely agree, with a Patriotic view. *****************Some have implied Moss is some sort of career criminal in the past. There was the incident with the meter maid. Stupid yes, but hardly the actions of a psychopath. I will say that he's been less than a stellar teamate in the past, but to pretend that there's a connection between that and domestic violence is just absurd. This event brings up many of the comments by players after the Sean Taylor tragedy. These players are targets. Does it excuse his affair? Absolutely not. But again, there's a huge leap from adultery to violence. I'm not ready to cannonize Moss for his turnaround as a teamate, but this would be a huge leap, as a behavioral trait.
massraider
Footballguy
Randy's shady past didn't start with the meter maid, that was just the most famous.You ever wonder how a freak like Moss ended up playing college ball at Marshall?
He lost his scholarship to ND because of battery. The situation of which I do not know. He lost his scholarship to Florida State for marijuana. I'm not saying he's squaky clean, but a fight at 18 and smoking pot at 19 are not even close to domestic violence. As a man, he's been a bad tamate, some of which is blown way out of proportion. Regardless, I see nothing in his past that makes this likely.
maxwelledison
Footballguy
IIRC it was because he was busted for possession of mary jane while at Fla St. If that is accurate, what does it have to do with anything relating to this or the other incident (meter maid)?Based on the "details" in the petition and the sequence of events I would be very surprised if this woman's story turns out to be based in reality.
sho nuff
Footballguy
The fact that he has had multiple run ins with the law.And the mary jane in the car with the meter maid might have some connection wouldn't you think?Again, her story may not be true.But his past and his admitting that something did happen make his side just as fishy as hers.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
True, but Post #70 clears some of that up, doesn't it? Assuming that if your willing to draw conclusions based on what we've heard before Post #70, you're willing to draw conclusions based on Post #70, that is....
maxwelledison
Footballguy
He has had a few minor legal issues but none involve abuse of a partner, which is not something that comes out of the blue. Most domestic abuse is instigated by " repeat customers" and the first incident is more often than not preceded by well-defined and recognized conduct (possessiveness, threats, etc.) of which there is no evidence here. Implying a causal relationship b/t the dope and the meter maid incident is dubious at best. Basically, his prior conduct does nothing to implicate misconduct in this incident. That you equate these legal apples and oranges is exactly why (if true) this woman threatened to go to the press with this incident: people don't know or don't care to make informed distinctions between different types of (mis)conduct.
sho nuff
Footballguy
No relationship between dope and meter maid incident?He lost a scholarship because of dope.
Was there any dope found in the car at the meter maid incident? Or am I confusing that with something/someone else. But I thought there was some in the car and he got a misdemeanor posession charge out of that incident as well.
He admitted last year or so that he has smoked dope while in the NFL.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8999815/
I think there is a pretty strong relationship between pot and his actions in the past.
His prior conduct make me less likely to just believe him right off the bat as some have said.
Where am I equating this alleged action and what he has done before?
His past makes believing him harder. Its that simple.
phthalatemagic
Footballguy
Context schmontextI'd respectfully suggest you go back and read his quote, which in context indicates mad sweeney does not disagree with you. You might start by quoting his entire post, and what he was responding to.
massraider
Footballguy
Likely
? I agree.Possible? Umm, sorry, but this seems very possible. He got kicked out of Florida State, for pete's sake, you know how hard that is? randy has no history of hitting women, but he has a history.
Frankly, whenever I hear about women coming after pro athletes, I wonder about the gold-digger aspect. I have seen it first-hand, these guys are targets, and there are women out there that prey on them. There's also a bunch of dirtbags out there playing professional sports.
But no one has any info, and it's absurd that people are deciding what went down, based on how well Randy answered questions. I have no idea what happened.
Dman30
Footballguy
"It's really hard for me to sit up here and say that I'm innocent."
--Randy Gene Moss
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80608b8d
at the 6:05 mark
--Randy Gene Moss
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80608b8d
at the 6:05 mark
BelichicksRevenge
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Ghost Rider
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No kidding. I'mnot even remotely a Moss fan, but this guy is annoying. "The team I want to win has no chance, so let me cling rabidly to this irrelevant-to-football thing I found."You have chosen to ignore all posts from: Dman30.· View this post· Un-ignore Dman30
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Is this where we share who's behavior is pathetic?Take a guess on my opinion.
Phlash
Footballguy
Said right after your quote:"Battery? I hit no woman. I've never laid my hands on a woman."
That doesn't sound like an admission of guilt.
Please, don't interrupt his inane ramblings with facts.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
The timing of this is very suspicious.
phthalatemagic
Footballguy
I agree. Randy should wait to beat on women after the season is over.
Phlash
Footballguy
Watch the video Dman posted, he says she threatened him to pay her money, and if he didn't she would go to the media and file charges against him "before a certain game" which he was indicating was the AFC Championship. Pretty messed up on her part.
tombonneau
Footballguy
Moss' lawyer has now issued as statement:
Lawyer was also on the radio and apparently she injured her finger. Moss was over there watching a playoff game or something, they were horsing around, apparently she injured her finger, he helped her put ice on it, etc.If he's guilty of anything it's maybe cheating on his longtime girlfriend with a ladyfriend of clearly ill repute.
BelichicksRevenge
Footballguy
He was'nt willing to pay six figures because he thinks he is innocent. She threatened to get this in the media if he did'nt pay. He did'nt. Voila: The story is in the media.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Statement regarding Moss
Posted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff January 17, 2008 03:17 PM
The attorney representing Rachelle Washington, who filed a temporary restraining order against Randy Moss, released a statement today:
NBCSports.com has the text of the statement from David McGill, which reads:
"For the past 11 years, Ms. Washington has cared deeply for Mr. Moss and has been there for him throughout all of his trials and tribulations. However, she refuses to be further disrespected by him. It has never been her intention to hurt Mr. Moss in any way. However, she has suffered mental and physical harm as a result of his actions. She simply wants him to take responsibility for what he has done. As a battery victim, she has shown great strength throughout this entire ordeal.
"Ms. Washington has been unfairly characterized as someone simply seeking financial gain. In fact, it was Mr. Moss' representatives who first contacted our office to offer a "six figure" settlement with hopes of not having this incident become public record.
"We have heard Mr. Moss' statement regarding the incident. He has acknowledged that he was at Ms. Washington's Florida residence and that he was "guilty" of an "accident" which occurred. However, Mr. Moss fails to mention how his reckless and degrading conduct rendered Ms. Washington unable to drive her vehicle to seek medical attention. As the evidence will show, there is serious doubt that Mr. Moss is capable of recalling with clarity the exact details of what transpired that evening. As Mr. Moss has previously stated, "Do your homework and check his resume.
"We look forward to presenting all of the evidence at the court hearing on January 28, 2008."
Posted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff January 17, 2008 03:17 PM
The attorney representing Rachelle Washington, who filed a temporary restraining order against Randy Moss, released a statement today:
NBCSports.com has the text of the statement from David McGill, which reads:
"For the past 11 years, Ms. Washington has cared deeply for Mr. Moss and has been there for him throughout all of his trials and tribulations. However, she refuses to be further disrespected by him. It has never been her intention to hurt Mr. Moss in any way. However, she has suffered mental and physical harm as a result of his actions. She simply wants him to take responsibility for what he has done. As a battery victim, she has shown great strength throughout this entire ordeal.
"Ms. Washington has been unfairly characterized as someone simply seeking financial gain. In fact, it was Mr. Moss' representatives who first contacted our office to offer a "six figure" settlement with hopes of not having this incident become public record.
"We have heard Mr. Moss' statement regarding the incident. He has acknowledged that he was at Ms. Washington's Florida residence and that he was "guilty" of an "accident" which occurred. However, Mr. Moss fails to mention how his reckless and degrading conduct rendered Ms. Washington unable to drive her vehicle to seek medical attention. As the evidence will show, there is serious doubt that Mr. Moss is capable of recalling with clarity the exact details of what transpired that evening. As Mr. Moss has previously stated, "Do your homework and check his resume.
"We look forward to presenting all of the evidence at the court hearing on January 28, 2008."
