Randy Moss Thread (1 Viewer)

[justmike73]

My thoughts are that if you pick him high you are rolling the dice. Sure, in a solid system and when he is healthy he is a force and may start fast. However, he is in a system under reconstruction with a questionable at best QB situation and an O-line that may be average at best. Toss in his last 2 years history of flaking mid-season. I don't know. I don't think he is worth a high WR pick. Not to mention their running game, which if is decent can open up the pass, is well, not that desirable at this point.

For me, Randy can go to another team in my fantasy league. I'll let them take the chance.

 

[PahtyTom]

His worst year is 1000 and 8. Not that much of a risk.

 

[KCC]

My thoughts are that if you pick him high you are rolling the dice. Sure, in a solid system and when he is healthy he is a force and may start fast. However, he is in a system under reconstruction with a questionable at best QB situation and an O-line that may be average at best. Toss in his last 2 years history of flaking mid-season. I don't know. I don't think he is worth a high WR pick. Not to mention their running game, which if is decent can open up the pass, is well, not that desirable at this point.For me, Randy can go to another team in my fantasy league. I'll let them take the chance.

Just out of curiousity, which WRs would you draft before Moss?

 

[justmike73]

His worst year is 1000 and 8. Not that much of a risk.

Its a risk if you are in a mid season brawl for play off placement and he is out. Not to mention that the Raiders are in reformation stages. I dont see him making 1000 and 8 this year in a new system under a new (old) coach, new QB, with no running game and a marginal o-line. If anything I see him as a decoy to draw coverage and the 2nd and 3rd WR getting the passes. My 2 cents. We should restart this conversation in week 16 and see how many fantasy points he puts up.

 

[shredhead]

His worst year is 1000 and 8. Not that much of a risk.

Considering that 116 and 2 of that was in week 17 after most people's championship game, his totals without that huge week were 889 and 6. Not necessarily WR1 numbers. With the Raiders seemingly in somewhat of disarray, I won't take him unless the value is really high.

 

[PahtyTom]

His worst year is 1000 and 8. Not that much of a risk.

Considering that 116 and 2 of that was in week 17 after most people's championship game, his totals without that huge week were 889 and 6. Not necessarily WR1 numbers. With the Raiders seemingly in somewhat of disarray, I won't take him unless the value is really high.

I don't think he cares about fantasy football. It was just coincidence that he had a big game week 17 when no one could use him. It could have been any week, and will be any week in the future. I doubt he makes a habit of having huge games when the fantasy football season ends just to screw everyone.

 

[justmike73]

Just out of curiousity, which WRs would you draft before Moss?

Well the obvious, Steve Smith, Tory Holt, Chad Johnson, Santa Moss, T.O, Chambers. If they slip that far which in most cases they wont. However, I would take T.J. Housh for TDs over Moss. Larry Fitz as well as #2 WRs from teams such as the Pats, Denver, Seattle (Hasslebeck is not bad and thrives on getting the ball to the less obvious WR), NY Giants and Miami. I draft for consistancy, not for flashes in the pan. Those flashes never seem to work over the course of the season.

 

[The Jerk]

Randy Moss is perhaps the biggest tease in FF. He makes the impossible look almost routine -- when he wants to. The concerns I have with drafting him is questions over Brooks' duration as the starter, especially if the Raiders get off to a 3-6 start or worse. Also, will Moss remain CONSISTENTLY interested week by week if the team is out of contention?

I still see him as a potential late 2nd rounder and a must draft 3rd rounder. I would not choose Moss over Chad Johnson, Steve Smith, Holt or Harrison. Clearly he CAN outperform them all, but that's not the question.

 

[PahtyTom]

Just out of curiousity, which WRs would you draft before Moss?

Well the obvious, Steve Smith, Tory Holt, Chad Johnson, Santa Moss, T.O, Chambers. If they slip that far which in most cases they wont. However, I would take T.J. Housh for TDs over Moss. Larry Fitz as well as #2 WRs from teams such as the Pats, Denver, Seattle (Hasslebeck is not bad and thrives on getting the ball to the less obvious WR), NY Giants and Miami. I draft for consistancy, not for flashes in the pan. Those flashes never seem to work over the course of the season.

You're taking Patriot WRs over Randy Moss? Cool.

 

[The Jerk]

Just out of curiousity, which WRs would you draft before Moss?

Well the obvious, Steve Smith, Tory Holt, Chad Johnson, Santa Moss, T.O, Chambers. If they slip that far which in most cases they wont. However, I would take T.J. Housh for TDs over Moss. Larry Fitz as well as #2 WRs from teams such as the Pats, Denver, Seattle (Hasslebeck is not bad and thrives on getting the ball to the less obvious WR), NY Giants and Miami. I draft for consistancy, not for flashes in the pan. Those flashes never seem to work over the course of the season.

Consistency can be overrated. I look for it too, but typically lower-scoring players have a better chance of being mathematically consistent. I'll take a team of players who are inconsistent but have a higher average weekly score over a team of consistent lower average weekly scorers any day.

 

[justmike73]

His worst year is 1000 and 8. Not that much of a risk.

Considering that 116 and 2 of that was in week 17 after most people's championship game, his totals without that huge week were 889 and 6. Not necessarily WR1 numbers. With the Raiders seemingly in somewhat of disarray, I won't take him unless the value is really high.

I don't think he cares about fantasy football. It was just coincidence that he had a big game week 17 when no one could use him. It could have been any week, and will be any week in the future. I doubt he makes a habit of having huge games when the fantasy football season ends just to screw everyone.

I'll take a pair of WRs that gain 50-70 yards a game and score often over one guy that has 6 to 10 50 yard games with no touch downs and ocassionally busts out a 150 yard game with 2 TDs any day.

 

[The Jerk]

Just out of curiousity, which WRs would you draft before Moss?

Well the obvious, Steve Smith, Tory Holt, Chad Johnson, Santa Moss, T.O, Chambers. If they slip that far which in most cases they wont. However, I would take T.J. Housh for TDs over Moss. Larry Fitz as well as #2 WRs from teams such as the Pats, Denver, Seattle (Hasslebeck is not bad and thrives on getting the ball to the less obvious WR), NY Giants and Miami. I draft for consistancy, not for flashes in the pan. Those flashes never seem to work over the course of the season.

You're taking Patriot WRs over Randy Moss? Cool.

Chambers and Santana Moss have several years of consistent performances on their resumes as well.

 

[Sweetness_34]

Raiders WR Moss throws tantrum in preseason win vs. Vikings

Associated Press

8/14/2006

MINNEAPOLIS — Randy Moss’ return to Minnesota was filled with frustration. The way Aaron Brooks played, that could continue when it counts.

Moss had one catch for 16 yards in his first game at the Metrodome since the Vikings traded him to Oakland before last season, and Brooks looked ragged again in the Raiders’ 16-13 preseason victory on Monday night.

Moss, who lit up the Metrodome in the first seven years of his career, started the night with a feet-stomping tantrum after Brooks didn’t see that he was wide open in the end zone.

After making his only catch of the game against second-team cornerback Dovonte Edwards in the second quarter, Moss was pulled by coach Art Shell. Moss stormed off the field and threw his helmet in disgust, stewing on the bench for the rest of the game.

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....frankly I do not blame Moss here. Brooks is killing him based on his preseason performance until now.

 

[KCC]

Just out of curiousity, which WRs would you draft before Moss?

Well the obvious, Steve Smith, Tory Holt, Chad Johnson, Santa Moss, T.O, Chambers. If they slip that far which in most cases they wont. However, I would take T.J. Housh for TDs over Moss. Larry Fitz as well as #2 WRs from teams such as the Pats, Denver, Seattle (Hasslebeck is not bad and thrives on getting the ball to the less obvious WR), NY Giants and Miami. I draft for consistancy, not for flashes in the pan. Those flashes never seem to work over the course of the season.

As a position, WRs tend to be more "flash-in-the-pan" types than other positions. Some of the WRs you mentioned - Smith, Holt, Owens - have higher ADPs than R. Moss (which also means less value.) I would really be surprised if most of the others you listed have better numbers than R. Moss. I personally think that Moss makes for a good value pick this year, but your points about the line and Shell are valid. good food for thought.

 

[The Jerk]

His worst year is 1000 and 8. Not that much of a risk.

Considering that 116 and 2 of that was in week 17 after most people's championship game, his totals without that huge week were 889 and 6. Not necessarily WR1 numbers. With the Raiders seemingly in somewhat of disarray, I won't take him unless the value is really high.

I don't think he cares about fantasy football. It was just coincidence that he had a big game week 17 when no one could use him. It could have been any week, and will be any week in the future. I doubt he makes a habit of having huge games when the fantasy football season ends just to screw everyone.

I'll take a pair of WRs that gain 50-70 yards a game and score often over one guy that has 6 to 10 50 yard games with no touch downs and ocassionally busts out a 150 yard game with 2 TDs any day.

Again, don't confuse consistency with high average production. Two receivers could have identical fantasy points but be very different in terms of their variance (or standard deviation, take your pick). On balance, it is better to choose the player with the higher average ppg even if he is less consistent. A team full of these players will tend to even out their total by virtue of some of the players hitting highs each week while others hit their lows. The team as a whole will not be as inconsistent as any one individual player.

 

[bigfalconsfan]

This guy fell to me at 3.05 in my draft today and I had to pick him up. If he's healthy, he's money, bank on it!

 

[The Jerk]

....frankly I do not blame Moss here. Brooks is killing him based on his preseason performance until now.

It's not exactly Leadership 101 material either. There is a time and place for showing frustration, but I'm not sure mid-August is it. And you might be able to find a more private place than MNF.

 

[PahtyTom]

I thought I heard on ESPN that he was mellowed out this year cuz he opened up a Yogurt place or something.

 

[justmike73]

Chambers and Santana Moss have several years of consistent performances on their resumes as well.

They are safer bets then Randy Moss. Plus they have a better supporting cast. With WRs everyone seems to focus on the sports center high lights that happen 3 or 4 times a year. The fact remains that the Raiders are a mess. Randy Moss is a great talent and if placed in several other teams would be a huge threat. However, can he perform in a system that is in the beginig stages of rebuilding? I dont think so and I question if his heart is in it. It takes a solid team to make a star reciever. If you have no o-line, a poor defense, a questionable QB, and no running game, well, you could have Flash Gorden as a WR and it won't matter. The offense has to have the ball, and the QB has to have time to let Randy get open before things can happen. My 2 cents is, you need to look at the team as well as the player.

 

[TD32]

I thought I heard on ESPN that he was mellowed out this year cuz he opened up a Yogurt place or something.

Juice Bar

 

[justmike73]

Again, don't confuse consistency with high average production. Two receivers could have identical fantasy points but be very different in terms of their variance (or standard deviation, take your pick). On balance, it is better to choose the player with the higher average ppg even if he is less consistent. A team full of these players will tend to even out their total by virtue of some of the players hitting highs each week while others hit their lows. The team as a whole will not be as inconsistent as any one individual player.

It's not better when you are playing in a close league and fighting for playoff spots. That is when the consistant numbers over take the flash in the pans. Nothing sucks more than going into the final playoff contest and having a WR come up dry. Last year I watched the number 3 team in my league bit it big at the end of the season when the show boat players came up empty. Not to mention the damage Moss and T.O. did to one team in my league. My point is, Moss is a big fat (?) , he could have a great season, but when you need him, will he be injured or come up dry? He is a bigger crap shoot then a number of WRs you can get for a steal if you dont give in to the glam.

 

[PahtyTom]

Steve Smith, Santana Moss, T.O, Chambers, T.J. Housh, WRs from teams such as the Pats, Denver, Seattle , NY Giants and Miami have all put up plenty of bad weeks in their days. Believe me.

 

[justmike73]

Draft Moss early. Make sure you come back and report how he did for you here.

I won't touch him. I'll let him ruin someone elses team this year.

 

[The Jerk]

It takes a solid team to make a star reciever. If you have no o-line, a poor defense, a questionable QB, and no running game, well, you could have Flash Gorden as a WR and it won't matter. The offense has to have the ball, and the QB has to have time to let Randy get open before things can happen. My 2 cents is, you need to look at the team as well as the player.

This sounds good until you look at the stats.Last year's #3, #4, and #5 WR in ppg all came from losing teams:

3 Holt,Torry			STL (6-10)	13.38 ppg  4 Boldin,Anquan		 ARI (5-11)	13.31 ppg  5 Fitzgerald,Larry	  ARI (5-11)	12.81 ppg

Not only that, but "no o-line, a poor defense, a questionable QB, and no running game" sounds like it was taken directly from the soundtrack of "The 2005 Arizona Cardinals Story" -- although their defense arguably rose to the mediocre level.

 

[Deadzone21]

Chambers and Santana Moss have several years of consistent performances on their resumes as well.

They are safer bets then Randy Moss. Plus they have a better supporting cast. With WRs everyone seems to focus on the sports center high lights that happen 3 or 4 times a year. The fact remains that the Raiders are a mess. Randy Moss is a great talent and if placed in several other teams would be a huge threat. However, can he perform in a system that is in the beginig stages of rebuilding? I dont think so and I question if his heart is in it. It takes a solid team to make a star reciever. If you have no o-line, a poor defense, a questionable QB, and no running game, well, you could have Flash Gorden as a WR and it won't matter. The offense has to have the ball, and the QB has to have time to let Randy get open before things can happen.

My 2 cents is, you need to look at the team as well as the player.

I thought a poor defense helps the passing game, as teams find themselves having to come from behind as time runs out. In fact, many passing stats can be made during garbage 4th quarter times, and I'm sure their deep threat will get most of the targets during those situations. Rams with T.Holt comes to mind.The same goes for a bad running game, look at Arizona last year. They had to pass more because they had no running game.

 

[bocksheesh]

In a 12-team draft, at one point does Randy Moss become value?

At one point do you have to draft him because he's too valuable to pass up?

2.10? 3.02? 3.06?

 

[justmike73]

Steve Smith, Santana Moss, T.O, Chambers, T.J. Housh, WRs from teams such as the Pats, Denver, Seattle , NY Giants and Miami have all put up plenty of bad weeks in their days. Believe me.

Well T.O was the turd of the year last year as far as WRs no doubt. But in the big picture the others were better then Randy. Randy was out what, 4 weeks last year and came back strong at the end. By then it was too late. This is the last time I will state this. The Raiders are a mess team wide. I don't care how good Randy is, in a team in chaos and the beginings of rebuilding, one man can't throw up huge numbers. Sure, draft him, just make sure around late November you let us know how he does for you. I got Santana Moss and Plaxico last year in a steal. They were my meat and potatoes as far as WR. This year I am shooting for Holt and Hush with T.O after them. Chad Johnson and Steve Smith will be gone before I can get them but I am projecting Hush for 8-10 TDs this year.

 

[seahawk 17]

At halftime I traded Moss for Steven Jackson. Moss will give up by gme #4.

 

[The Jerk]

Again, don't confuse consistency with high average production. Two receivers could have identical fantasy points but be very different in terms of their variance (or standard deviation, take your pick). On balance, it is better to choose the player with the higher average ppg even if he is less consistent. A team full of these players will tend to even out their total by virtue of some of the players hitting highs each week while others hit their lows. The team as a whole will not be as inconsistent as any one individual player.

It's not better when you are playing in a close league and fighting for playoff spots. That is when the consistant numbers over take the flash in the pans. Nothing sucks more than going into the final playoff contest and having a WR come up dry. Last year I watched the number 3 team in my league bit it big at the end of the season when the show boat players came up empty. Not to mention the damage Moss and T.O. did to one team in my league. My point is, Moss is a big fat (?) , he could have a great season, but when you need him, will he be injured or come up dry? He is a bigger crap shoot then a number of WRs you can get for a steal if you dont give in to the glam.

I don't mind if you disagree, but you're not even paying attention to my argument. I get the fact you don't like Randy Moss. Let me in on a little secret: I probably won't draft him either for many of the reasons you list. Still, I understand that consistency of any one player is overrated. Take a look at any of the highest-scoring players -- especially WRs -- and you will see a lot of inconsistency. That's the nature of scoring many points. The most consistent players in the week are each team's fifth best WR. They get 0 each week.Here are the worst games for some of the top receivers in 2005:Edited to add: Yardage totals listed - no TDs scored in any of these weeks.Steve Smith: 34, 12, 34, 18 (18 in Week 16, championship week!)Marvin Harrison: 36, 17, 42, 19 (and missed Week 16 with an injury!)The great Chris Chambers: 40, 21, 40, 12Randy Moss: 0 (injury), 7, 40, 26, 28, 18No doubt Moss had the most bad games. But he also had a far lower ppg. He had an off year and still finished 17th in ppg.As far as consistency, Santana Moss only scored in five games last year: 3 TDs one week, 2 TDs twice, 1 TD twice. Randy Moss actually scored in 7 different games.If you haven't noticed yet, most WRs are more inconsistent than RBs and even QBs. I want the player with the higher average even if he is less consistent. Plus, consistency varies from year to year (see Doug Drinen posts for details).

 

[justmike73]

I thought a poor defense helps the passing game, as teams find themselves having to come from behind as time runs out. In fact, many passing stats can be made during garbage 4th quarter times, and I'm sure their deep threat will get most of the targets during those situations. Rams with T.Holt comes to mind.The same goes for a bad running game, look at Arizona last year. They had to pass more because they had no running game.

A poor defense does does not keep the offense on the feild long enough. You also have to look at the team your WRs and how long they have the ball. If the team your wide out of choice's defense sucks, their o-line is questionable, and the running game is untested, then the wide out will not have the time to get good looks. You need a strong defense to get the ball back to your offense. Look at the rebuild of Cinci defense for example. They had arguably a top 10 offense last season, but their defense was weak against the run and time of possetion cost them in their losses. Then toss in the o-line. Sure you can get lucky late and down by 3 scores tossing up hail marys. But those are rare cases and a risk. That is why I never draft QBs and wide outs from the same team. Anyway, a good o-line and running game will open up the passing game. This year there were so many trades and shifts, that will be more important then ever. Not to mention the fact that Warner in Arizona was well seasoned and more tested then Brooks.

 

[justmike73]

I don't mind if you disagree, but you're not even paying attention to my argument. I get the fact you don't like Randy Moss. Let me in on a little secret: I probably won't draft him either for many of the reasons you list. Still, I understand that consistency of any one player is overrated. Take a look at any of the highest-scoring players -- especially WRs -- and you will see a lot of inconsistency. That's the nature of scoring many points. The most consistent players in the week are each team's fifth best WR. They get 0 each week.Here are the worst games for some of the top receivers in 2005:Edited to add: Yardage totals listed - no TDs scored in any of these weeks.Steve Smith: 34, 12, 34, 18 (18 in Week 16, championship week!)Marvin Harrison: 36, 17, 42, 19 (and missed Week 16 with an injury!)The great Chris Chambers: 40, 21, 40, 12Randy Moss: 0 (injury), 7, 40, 26, 28, 18No doubt Moss had the most bad games. But he also had a far lower ppg. He had an off year and still finished 17th in ppg.As far as consistency, Santana Moss only scored in five games last year: 3 TDs one week, 2 TDs twice, 1 TD twice. Randy Moss actually scored in 7 different games.If you haven't noticed yet, most WRs are more inconsistent than RBs and even QBs. I want the player with the higher average even if he is less consistent. Plus, consistency varies from year to year (see Doug Drinen posts for details).

I am not ignoring your debate and I don't hate Randy. He is a rare talent and had his days. I just don't see them being replicated with the Raiders. Anyway, Sure Santana didn't score a lot but I play in leagues that award points per yards. That is where guys like Santa and Hush come in handy. Santana gave me 237 fantasy pts last season. I suppose the argument here comes from the type of league you are in. If the league awards points for total yards then you want a consistant reciever. If the weight is on touch downs you want a go to guy. Yes I have noticed that WRs are inconsitant. That is why in my leagues where yards matter as well I put weight on those 40-100 yards a game guys. I let my RBs pump up the big points for touch downs. I am a bit odd because I have been known to draft RBs that are well known to run on 3rd and goal over the primary 1st and 10 guys for just that reason.

 

[justmike73]

In a 12-team draft, at one point does Randy Moss become value?At one point do you have to draft him because he's too valuable to pass up?2.10? 3.02? 3.06?

What order are you in the draft? In my thoughts as I am sure you have seen, the Raiders are a mess. So I'd say I'd take him as a back up if he falls that far and see what happens in the first 4 to 5 weeks. I would not bank on him as a starter. My 2 cents.

 

[shadow2k]

Just out of curiousity, which WRs would you draft before Moss?

Well the obvious, Steve Smith, Tory Holt, Chad Johnson, Santa Moss, T.O, Chambers. If they slip that far which in most cases they wont. However, I would take T.J. Housh for TDs over Moss. Larry Fitz as well as #2 WRs from teams such as the Pats, Denver, Seattle (Hasslebeck is not bad and thrives on getting the ball to the less obvious WR), NY Giants and Miami. I draft for consistancy, not for flashes in the pan. Those flashes never seem to work over the course of the season.

I think the first ones you mentioned are obvious, except for maybe Santa! Moss. Housh's best TD total is 7, Moss' worst is 8. So if you're picking a guy for TD's, history would say you're picking the wrong one. Not to mention that Palmer isn't exactly a sure thing to start the year. Fitz is an obvious choice to me, and probably Boldin as well.But...So...Reche Caldwell, Walker, Burleson, Toomer, and Booker? Look at some of these ADP's in a 12 teamerS.Moss: 4thWalker: 4thHoush: 5thBurleson: 7thThe other guys like Caldwell , Toomer, and Booker won't even get drafted in 16 rounds!I can't believe how some people over-react after 2 pre-season games. Yes, Brooks looks like crap, and the O-line looks like what Brooks crapped out. But it's pre-season. They haven't even played a full half! They play these games to find the problems and fix them. I'm just glad HC's don't over-react like this. Dee Brown would be starting over LJ, Shaun Alexander would be riding pine, and Rudi Johnson would be cut.

 

[videoguy505]

In my 12-team keep-3 league, the following WRs were retained, while Randy Moss wasn't: T.O., Harrison, Chad J., Fitz, Boldin, Chambers, DJax, Wayne, Roy Williams, S. Moss, H. Ward, Holt, Javon Walker, and Steve Smith. The guy who dropped Moss kept Boldin instead.

Now, when my pick comes up at the equivalent of 4.05, my roster will have LJ, Rudi, and Javon Walker. My decision there is probably going to be between Moss or Plaxico, Driver, Houshmanzadeh, Mason, or Andre Johnson. At that spot, with no other viable WR alternatives and pretty much every worthwile RB kept as well (and no need to draft Chester Taylor or Julius Jones so early), only mid-range QBs around, I don't think I can pass on Moss.

 

[justmike73]

I think the first ones you mentioned are obvious, except for maybe Santa! Moss. Housh's best TD total is 7, Moss' worst is 8. So if you're picking a guy for TD's, history would say you're picking the wrong one. Not to mention that Palmer isn't exactly a sure thing to start the year.

Which is why Housh is a sleeper for this year. The pass coverage will be all over Chad when the back up QBs play expecting him to be the go to guy in a pench and in conjuction with his trash talking. Be it Wright or Johnson. Housh is a warrior with a penchent for getting open on slants on 3rd and long across the middle without fear of getting hit. Not to mention he is a major red zone threat. The Bengals are lacking hardcore at tight end for those redzone passing plays that call for a big tight in to run crossing plays for the TD. That means that when the blitz comes on what ever and goal the first look will be to Chad and he will be double teamed, the second look will be to T.J. and given the deep recieving corps and the gatget plays they are incorporating, T.J. will be a consistant red zone target.

 

[justmike73]

Ok, I need sleep. So I am not going to debate this any more. It has been fun and several of you have put up great arguments for drafting Randy high. That is why I enjoy this message board. For those of you that choose to start Randy Moss this fantasy season, please make sure to let us know how it works out for you over the course of the season.

It's been a fun debate. Next week we should debate QBs. I have some good arguments for why some top 5 QB options might be a bad idea. Let me know when you want to throw down on the QB debate.

 

[VikingFrog]

I searched and searched but couldn’t for the life of me figure out which thread was the official Randy Moss thread.

I saw he stepped away from the booth last week for personal reasons and almost posted then.

Sad news to hear he has been diagnosed with liver cancer.

One of the GOATs and as a 40 year old Vikings fan, a big part of my life growing up.

Here’s to hoping he can beat cancer like he beat so many DBs over the years.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Honestly, in their prime, is anyone better than prime Moss? Flawed, sure, but a complete problem for the other team.

 

[VikingFrog]

Honestly, in their prime, is anyone better than prime Moss? Flawed, sure, but a complete problem for the other team.

“If I can’t get to it… nobody can’t get to it.”

- Randy Moss

 

[eighsse2]

I searched and searched but couldn’t for the life of me figure out which thread was the official Randy Moss thread.

You raise a very good point. I looked too. There isn't any thread containing the word "Moss" in the title with thousands of posts. A couple with 900, several more in the 200-500s. I guess someone would just make a new thread whenever something interesting happened, and then people would carry on talking about him in that thread.

 

[VikingFrog]

I searched and searched but couldn’t for the life of me figure out which thread was the official Randy Moss thread.

You raise a very good point. I looked too. There isn't any thread containing the word "Moss" in the title with thousands of posts. A couple with 900, several more in the 200-500s. I guess someone would just make a new thread whenever something interesting happened, and then people would carry on talking about him in that thread.

I think I joined here around 2008. They may not have had official player threads in the olden days.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

LFG GOAT
You got this Randy. **** cancer

 

[kutta]

Freaking sucks. One of my all time favorite players, and I’m a Lions fan.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Sad news to hear he has been diagnosed with liver cancer.

Sounds like his son is disputing this

Randy Moss' son angrily pushes back on report of father's health issues

Thaddeus Moss calls out journalist Larry Fitzgerald Sr. for appearing to reveal reason for Hall of Famer's leave of absence from ESPN: "Disgusting."

www.yahoo.com

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

Randy Moss Reveals He Has Cancer After Multiple Surgeries, Says He’s a ‘Survivor’

NFL Hall of Famer Randy Moss revealed he underwent surgery on Thanksgiving and was hospitalized for a week following his cancer diagnosis. The ESPN analyst is now set to undergo radiation and chemotherapy.

people.com

Found around the Bile Duct, Pancreas and Liver.
None are good regardless of which is the official diagnosis.
Hopefully they caught it early enough

 

[BladeRunner]

Freaking sucks. One of my all time favorite players, and I’m a Lions fan.

He was special. As a packer homer, I remember his coming out party against us. I was embarrassed to be a Packer fan that day. Damn, he was amazing.

 

[LawFitz]

Turbo cancer epidemic is awful. :(

 

[BlackCrowes]

Sometimes He looked like he was barely trying. So smooth

 

[Judge Smails]

Prayers for Mr. Moss. What a great football player and smart/interesting man. Cancer sucks. I’m battling it myself. I really feel for those who are younger. You got this Randy

 

[Mister CIA]

This day sucks.