Rank the Rookie RBs as if you were drafting dynasty today (1 Viewer)

[Sabertooth]

I was just looking over one of my rosters and I have a crapload of rookie running backs. So I got to thinking it my rankings in order would probably go:

1. Trent Richardson

2. Doug Martin

3. Daryl Richardson

4. David Wilson

5. Alfred Morris

6. Robert Turbin

7. Lamar Miller

8. Ronnie Hillman

9. Isiah Pead

Sound about right? Somebody too high or too low? I try not to take situation into account too much but Daryl Richardson appears to have it all, the skill and the situation. Turbin has looked like, well Beast Mode. And Lamar Miller is one Reggie Bush hammy away from stardom. Hillman and Pead appear to have been overvalued back in August.

 

[steveski]

It's too early to tell. If you did this ranking 1 week ago, your rankings would have been drastically different. A lot of these guys haven't even been given the opportunity yet. In another 4-5 weeks, the ranking should shake out a bit. I think #1 and #2 will stay though.

 

[cheese]

If I'm going to skyrocket a lower rookie already, give me Morris way before DRichardson. He has shown more, he's the clear starter right now and he was at least even with him before this season started IMO.

I like most of your list, but flip-flop 3 and 5 for me.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

Good list. A lot could change in a heartbeat. I think the Morris ranking is appropriate. We won't even remember who he was in 2 years. I would actually push him lower, below Miller. Miller looks like he should be the starter in Miami starting next year, and it could be sooner. Wilson has a lot of talent, but a lot to learn as well. Hillman and Pead don't look as appetizing right now, but give them time and they could rocket up the list. I like Turbin as well. Lynch is injury-prone and stupid so the opportunity is there for Turbin.

 

[lod01]

Before the season:

1. Trent Richardson

2. Doug Martin

3. Lamar Miller

4. Robert Turbin

5. David Wilson

6. Ronnie Hillman

7. Isiah Pead

Now:

1. Trent Richardson

2. Doug Martin

3. Daryl Richardson

4. Robert Turbin

5. Lamar Miller - I think R. Bush is currently writing himself a big FA check

6. David Wilson - never been high on this fumbler.

7. Alfred Morris - skeletor could render this guy useless at any second

8. Ronnie Hillman

 

[voiceofunreason]

1. Trent Richardson

2. Doug Martin

3. David Wilson

4. Lamar Miller

5. Daryl Richardson

6. Ronnie Hillman

7. Isiah Pead

8. Robert Turbin

9. Alfred Morris

Overreactions everywhere. People won't remember who Alfred Morris is a year from now. He's a fumble away from being on the bench for 2 months. Other than Pead & Richardson it's gone exactly as expected. And if you actually thought Hillman was going to be big this year, you were an idiot. Fox doesn't like rookies and they aren't puting a small, rookie back in to block for Manning. David Wilson is also a year away. The elephant in the room is, passing is king so rookies who can't pass protect are not going to be starters because what teams gain on the ground isn't worth the loss to the passing game (and potential qb injuries).

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Overreactions everywhere.

Dynasty rankings shouldn't be that volitile, where they cange drastically week to week. Richardson deserves to get bumped up a little but otherwise thinsg should not have changed all that much. Guys like Wilson, Hillman, Miller, etc. shouldn't have been expected to see much time this early in the season being behind solid veteran incumbents.

 

[BallparkFrank]

As a college football fan, it makes me a little sad to see LMJ not even mentioned in this thread. I guess being your teams 5th string RB at the moment will do that. I still like the ceiling, though, more than some of these other guys.

 

[Riffraff]

3 weeks from now Ballard (not listed yet) could make the big jump. Or maybe not. Who knows?

Don't put too much emphasis on 1 good game for DRichardson. He could slip right back into Jackson's shadow in a hurry.

Caveat: I own DRichardson and Miller. Not trying to think my dynasty team is set for years just yet. Way too early to change up your lists. It's 2 games into the season.

 

[EBF]

1. T Richardson - Looks as advertised. Only concerns are durability and supporting cast.

2. Martin - A little underwhelming so far, but not enough to drop down the list yet.

3. Wilson - Not a huge fan, but he's explosive with a really high upside.

4. D Richardson - The big riser for me. Looks like he could be a Jamaal Charles or Warrick Dunn type of player.

5. Miller - So far so good. Bush is playing well, but is getting a bit old. Thomas may vulture looks long term.

6. Pierce - Like his talent a lot, but he is stuck in a dead end situation for the time being.

7. Turbin - Like him a little less than Pierce, but he has more potential to actually get on the field.

8. James - Undersized, but explosive on a team with great coaches who might be able to get the most out of his unique skill set.

9. Morris - Would be a lot higher on a redraft list, but I'm not buying his staying power at all. I would only acquire with the intent to trade later.

10. Hillman - Was never a big fan and that hasn't changed now that he has been held off by McGahee and passed by Moreno.

11. Pead - Never liked his potential in the first place and the outlook has become really grim with Richardson clearly outshining him so far.

 

[Clifford]

I was just looking over one of my rosters and I have a crapload of rookie running backs. So I got to thinking it my rankings in order would probably go:1. Trent Richardson2. Doug Martin3. Daryl Richardson4. David Wilson5. Alfred Morris6. Robert Turbin7. Lamar Miller8. Ronnie Hillman9. Isiah PeadSound about right? Somebody too high or too low? I try not to take situation into account too much but Daryl Richardson appears to have it all, the skill and the situation. Turbin has looked like, well Beast Mode. And Lamar Miller is one Reggie Bush hammy away from stardom. Hillman and Pead appear to have been overvalued back in August.

ONly three rooks have proven they can hang in the NFL. I'd put those three as the top three. HIllman, ehhh, I guess he and Pead are tied for last in my mind.Really surprised to see so many people ranking guys ahead of Morris that are not currently playing due to ineptitude. Guy is not only playing, he's playing over two other capable backs, not fumbling, and averaging around 5ypc.

 

[Ariakis]

If we talk future value not just the 1st few games of 2012 then Hillman and Bryce Brown probably move up the list to join Richardson in the same tier with Wilson, Turbin, and Miller who need a break to be useful soon. If you are rebuilding then Morris is low if you are trying to win now then higher. I'd rather have any of the upside guys over him unless I really needed help now. Pead may be the biggest loser of the group atleast right now.

 

[Rhythmdoctor]

As a college football fan, it makes me a little sad to see LMJ not even mentioned in this thread. I guess being your teams 5th string RB at the moment will do that. I still like the ceiling, though, more than some of these other guys.

LaMichael James - I drafted him in both my dynasty leagues. He's obviously sitting on my taxi squad but I too love his ceiling. He'll get his and hopefully won't have to wait as long as Sproles to get his chance. Sproles is another guy I LOVED coming out of college and have been drafting annually since his rookie year. Never gave up hope on him and it's finally paying dividends the last couple years.

 

[duaneok66]

Come on people - Richardson 3rd?? You are honestly going to take Richardson over Wilson based on 2 or 3 weeks??? In a dynasty league format???

No way.

 

[duaneok66]

1. Trent Richardson2. Doug Martin3. David Wilson4. Lamar Miller5. Daryl Richardson6. Ronnie Hillman7. Isiah Pead8. Robert Turbin9. Alfred MorrisOverreactions everywhere. People won't remember who Alfred Morris is a year from now. He's a fumble away from being on the bench for 2 months. Other than Pead & Richardson it's gone exactly as expected. And if you actually thought Hillman was going to be big this year, you were an idiot. Fox doesn't like rookies and they aren't puting a small, rookie back in to block for Manning. David Wilson is also a year away. The elephant in the room is, passing is king so rookies who can't pass protect are not going to be starters because what teams gain on the ground isn't worth the loss to the passing game (and potential qb injuries).

great post.

 

[FUBAR]

All these first few weeks have proven IMO is TRich and Martin will be top performers.

Morris could be a stud, a decent player or an after thought in a few weeks. Short leash on a rookie RB.

Wilson can overcome his fumbling and improve or maybe he'll bust.

The rest don't appear to be fantasy worthy.

 

[Sabertooth]

I was just looking over one of my rosters and I have a crapload of rookie running backs. So I got to thinking it my rankings in order would probably go:1. Trent Richardson2. Doug Martin3. Daryl Richardson4. David Wilson5. Alfred Morris6. Robert Turbin7. Lamar Miller8. Ronnie Hillman9. Isiah PeadSound about right? Somebody too high or too low? I try not to take situation into account too much but Daryl Richardson appears to have it all, the skill and the situation. Turbin has looked like, well Beast Mode. And Lamar Miller is one Reggie Bush hammy away from stardom. Hillman and Pead appear to have been overvalued back in August.

ONly three rooks have proven they can hang in the NFL. I'd put those three as the top three. HIllman, ehhh, I guess he and Pead are tied for last in my mind.Really surprised to see so many people ranking guys ahead of Morris that are not currently playing due to ineptitude. Guy is not only playing, he's playing over two other capable backs, not fumbling, and averaging around 5ypc.

Both Richardsons, Martin, Miller, Morris and Turbin look like they belong in the NFL. Not sure why you say only three rooks have proven they can hang.

 

[Sabertooth]

All these first few weeks have proven IMO is TRich and Martin will be top performers. Morris could be a stud, a decent player or an after thought in a few weeks. Short leash on a rookie RB. Wilson can overcome his fumbling and improve or maybe he'll bust.The rest don't appear to be fantasy worthy.

You appear to be looking at this season only. I clearly stated this is a dynasty thread. I'm not sure how you can say that Lamar Miller and Daryl Richardson aren't fantasy worthy. Both look explosive.

 

[cheese]

1. Trent Richardson

2. Doug Martin

3. David Wilson

4. Lamar Miller

5. Daryl Richardson

6. Ronnie Hillman

7. Isiah Pead

8. Robert Turbin

9. Alfred Morris

Overreactions everywhere. People won't remember who Alfred Morris is a year from now. He's a fumble away from being on the bench for 2 months. Other than Pead & Richardson it's gone exactly as expected. And if you actually thought Hillman was going to be big this year, you were an idiot. Fox doesn't like rookies and they aren't puting a small, rookie back in to block for Manning. David Wilson is also a year away. The elephant in the room is, passing is king so rookies who can't pass protect are not going to be starters because what teams gain on the ground isn't worth the loss to the passing game (and potential qb injuries).

People won't remember who several of these guys are in a few years. In the mean time, Morris is racking up points and the others are useless. 2 guys have stood out as studs now and in the future. Beyond that, give me the guy scoring points. The rest of these guys are fliers.

 

[Sabertooth]

1. Trent Richardson

2. Doug Martin

3. David Wilson

4. Lamar Miller

5. Daryl Richardson

6. Ronnie Hillman

7. Isiah Pead

8. Robert Turbin

9. Alfred Morris

Overreactions everywhere. People won't remember who Alfred Morris is a year from now. He's a fumble away from being on the bench for 2 months. Other than Pead & Richardson it's gone exactly as expected. And if you actually thought Hillman was going to be big this year, you were an idiot. Fox doesn't like rookies and they aren't puting a small, rookie back in to block for Manning. David Wilson is also a year away. The elephant in the room is, passing is king so rookies who can't pass protect are not going to be starters because what teams gain on the ground isn't worth the loss to the passing game (and potential qb injuries).

People won't remember who several of these guys are in a few years. In the mean time, Morris is racking up points and the others are useless. 2 guys have stood out as studs now and in the future. Beyond that, give me the guy scoring points. The rest of these guys are fliers.

Lamar Miller scored 12.5 fantasy points last week? More than Demarco Murray, Matt Forte, and Adrian Peterson.

 

[cheese]

1. Trent Richardson

2. Doug Martin

3. David Wilson

4. Lamar Miller

5. Daryl Richardson

6. Ronnie Hillman

7. Isiah Pead

8. Robert Turbin

9. Alfred Morris

Overreactions everywhere. People won't remember who Alfred Morris is a year from now. He's a fumble away from being on the bench for 2 months. Other than Pead & Richardson it's gone exactly as expected. And if you actually thought Hillman was going to be big this year, you were an idiot. Fox doesn't like rookies and they aren't puting a small, rookie back in to block for Manning. David Wilson is also a year away. The elephant in the room is, passing is king so rookies who can't pass protect are not going to be starters because what teams gain on the ground isn't worth the loss to the passing game (and potential qb injuries).

People won't remember who several of these guys are in a few years. In the mean time, Morris is racking up points and the others are useless. 2 guys have stood out as studs now and in the future. Beyond that, give me the guy scoring points. The rest of these guys are fliers.

Lamar Miller scored 12.5 fantasy points last week? More than Demarco Murray, Matt Forte, and Adrian Peterson.

That's fine. Did you start him? Are you starting him this week? Morris has way more short-term value and I am surprised if you think that's debatable. A guy putting up a score once doesn't make him a relevant option this year.

 

[Shutout]

In general I agree its too early to know. Like someone said above, a fumble here or there and we may not remember some of these guys next year (Morris' situation especially..We could get to December and it will be Helu).

Overall, I think

TRICH-obvious

Martin-This is exactly what it looks like. He could esily be bumped down in production and end up 4-5 on the list but today...

Wilson-Things change in a heartbeat and if the talent is there, you stay with it. McCoy, Charles, Spiller, etc had slow starts too but we all knew the talent existed.

Turbin- should be in the top 4, depending on your theory. I think he and his team have shown there is a place for him.

Everyone else, who knows?

 

[Sabertooth]

1. Trent Richardson

2. Doug Martin

3. David Wilson

4. Lamar Miller

5. Daryl Richardson

6. Ronnie Hillman

7. Isiah Pead

8. Robert Turbin

9. Alfred Morris

Overreactions everywhere. People won't remember who Alfred Morris is a year from now. He's a fumble away from being on the bench for 2 months. Other than Pead & Richardson it's gone exactly as expected. And if you actually thought Hillman was going to be big this year, you were an idiot. Fox doesn't like rookies and they aren't puting a small, rookie back in to block for Manning. David Wilson is also a year away. The elephant in the room is, passing is king so rookies who can't pass protect are not going to be starters because what teams gain on the ground isn't worth the loss to the passing game (and potential qb injuries).

People won't remember who several of these guys are in a few years. In the mean time, Morris is racking up points and the others are useless. 2 guys have stood out as studs now and in the future. Beyond that, give me the guy scoring points. The rest of these guys are fliers.

Lamar Miller scored 12.5 fantasy points last week? More than Demarco Murray, Matt Forte, and Adrian Peterson.

That's fine. Did you start him? Are you starting him this week? Morris has way more short-term value and I am surprised if you think that's debatable. A guy putting up a score once doesn't make him a relevant option this year.

Clearly you didn't read the thread title. It states that it is a dynasty thread, not once but twice.

 

[cheese]

1. Trent Richardson

2. Doug Martin

3. David Wilson

4. Lamar Miller

5. Daryl Richardson

6. Ronnie Hillman

7. Isiah Pead

8. Robert Turbin

9. Alfred Morris

Overreactions everywhere. People won't remember who Alfred Morris is a year from now. He's a fumble away from being on the bench for 2 months. Other than Pead & Richardson it's gone exactly as expected. And if you actually thought Hillman was going to be big this year, you were an idiot. Fox doesn't like rookies and they aren't puting a small, rookie back in to block for Manning. David Wilson is also a year away. The elephant in the room is, passing is king so rookies who can't pass protect are not going to be starters because what teams gain on the ground isn't worth the loss to the passing game (and potential qb injuries).

People won't remember who several of these guys are in a few years. In the mean time, Morris is racking up points and the others are useless. 2 guys have stood out as studs now and in the future. Beyond that, give me the guy scoring points. The rest of these guys are fliers.

Lamar Miller scored 12.5 fantasy points last week? More than Demarco Murray, Matt Forte, and Adrian Peterson.

That's fine. Did you start him? Are you starting him this week? Morris has way more short-term value and I am surprised if you think that's debatable. A guy putting up a score once doesn't make him a relevant option this year.

Clearly you didn't read the thread title. It states that it is a dynasty thread, not once but twice.

Unless the thread says it's a league where the goal isn't to score points, my stance remains the same. It's no problem that you don't agree, but I read it just fine.As far as Morris, I guess I would just treat him like he was Steven Jackson or some veteran like that. You all might be right that he's worth nothing a couple of years from now, but I think his current production warrants more value than any of these other guys that MIGHT do something years from now.

ETA: I guess your comment was about me saying this year. My point was, and still is, that only 3 of these guys are helping teams this year.

In a dynasty league give me the studs, then give me the guys producing and then I'll rank the long term maybes after that.

 

[FUBAR]

All these first few weeks have proven IMO is TRich and Martin will be top performers. Morris could be a stud, a decent player or an after thought in a few weeks. Short leash on a rookie RB. Wilson can overcome his fumbling and improve or maybe he'll bust.The rest don't appear to be fantasy worthy.

You appear to be looking at this season only. I clearly stated this is a dynasty thread. I'm not sure how you can say that Lamar Miller and Daryl Richardson aren't fantasy worthy. Both look explosive.

You're right, in dynasty with decent sized-rosters, they're rosterable. Don't expect much this year.

 

[Assani Fisher]

It's too early to tell. If you did this ranking 1 week ago, your rankings would have been drastically different. A lot of these guys haven't even been given the opportunity yet. In another 4-5 weeks, the ranking should shake out a bit. I think #1 and #2 will stay though.

Well obviously. But since trades are allowed to be made now, it is important for FF owners to have a good idea based upon the information we do have.I'm a Skins fan(so I may be homering it up here), but I think people are way too low on Alfred Morris. I'd put him at #3 behind the big 2, although note that I think theres a huge gap between #2 and #3. The Redskins are fairly deep at RB and have traded away some draft picks to get RG3- I don't see them spending many picks on RBs in future years. Morris fits in great with the Shanny/RG3 system. So far in 2 weeks hes put up 96/2 and 89/0. He doesn't catch passes, so maybe I'd bump him to #4 or #5 in PPR, but the Skins offense looks to be set for years to come so I think he'll have good TD numbers.

I think people are overreacting to Shanny's past too much and not looking enough at this specific situation. Morris, in his first 2 career games, has gotten 44 carries, including those at the goalline(minus RG3's runs). Theres little reason to think that Shanny doesn't want this kid to be the #1 RB.

 

[flc735]

It's too early to tell. If you did this ranking 1 week ago, your rankings would have been drastically different. A lot of these guys haven't even been given the opportunity yet. In another 4-5 weeks, the ranking should shake out a bit. I think #1 and #2 will stay though.

its too early to tell now but it wasn't a few months ago

 

[flc735]

1. Trent Richardson

2. Doug Martin

5. Alfred Morris

3. Daryl Richardson

7. Lamar Miller

6. Robert Turbin

4. David Wilson

8. Ronnie Hillman

9. Isiah Pead

non ppr, i think i would switch alf and martin