Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Trump
Gabbard
Biden/Warren (tie)
spin off of the other thread with top candidates
Gabbard
Biden/Warren (tie)
spin off of the other thread with top candidates
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Same.Trump
Warren
Don’t really have a third I have strong feeling about.
Pretty much my thoughts hereTrump
Gabbard
Biden/Warren (tie)
spin off of the other thread with top candidates
You're worried about Steyer but not Bloomberg?Trump lapping the field.
Then probably Steyer, Warren.
I agree with The General - at least Bloomberg has some experience. Steyer would literally be buying the Presidency, IMO - continues the bad precedent we set last time. Bloomberg would probably be in my bottom 4 though.You're worried about Steyer but not Bloomberg?
Maybe. Or maybe it provides some insight into which candidates have excitement behind them, and which candidates will absolutely tank the voter turnout.The problem with polls like this and the other one (top 3) is the pretense that there is any viable candidate who is comparable to Donald Trump. There isn’t. It’s basically Trump, who has been a disaster as President, one one side, and everybody else running on the other side. The only question before the electorate is: are we going to to extend the disaster or stop it? That’s it. Everything else is insignificant.
Honestly I don’t think there’s too much relationship between the two. Excitement in the primaries does not necessarily lead to excitement in the general election. In fact, if we examine Presidential elections over the past 50 years I can point to just as many examples where it led to failure than to success. This is because, obviously, the base of each party tends to be more extreme than the population at large.Maybe. Or maybe it provides some insight into which candidates have excitement behind them, and which candidates will absolutely tank the voter turnout.
Hillary caused the disaster, quit pawning off on us to stop it.The problem with polls like this and the other one (top 3) is the pretense that there is any viable candidate who is comparable to Donald Trump. There isn’t. It’s basically Trump, who has been a disaster as President, one one side, and everybody else running on the other side. The only question before the electorate is: are we going to to extend the disaster or stop it? That’s it. Everything else is insignificant.
A few thoughts on this. I agree with you about socialism. But I don’t think there’s any way that Bernie or Warren, if elected, could impose anything close to a socialist society. For that they would need the agreement of both houses of Congress and that will NEVER happen in our lifetimes, full stop. If elected both Bernie and/or Warren will govern as liberal Democrats in terms of foreign policy, and as helpless neuters in terms of domestic and economic policy. I can live with that. (Bernie in particular would be amusing since he would have virtually no allies; both Democrats and Republicans would cooperate to thwart nearly everything he tried to do.)of the leading candidates
Warren - phony/socialist
Bernie - way too progressives
Basically if you are a progressive you have zero shot at my vote as I believe socialism can kill our country and eventually destabilize the world order.
Well obviously I don’t agree but even if I did, so what? Whoever caused the disaster we still have to stop it.Hillary caused the disaster, quit pawning off on us to stop it.
Biden inches up for me every time he pokes someone in the chest or otherwise lashes out. It reminds me of watching my dad - similar age - exhibit senility driven anger.Exactly where I am.
Yeah, he is probably the third on my list, but still not close.Biden inches up for me every time he pokes someone in the chest or otherwise lashes out. It reminds me of watching my dad - similar age - exhibit senility driven anger.
And your solution of another candidate like HRC will fail again.Well obviously I don’t agree but even if I did, so what? Whoever caused the disaster we still have to stop it.
Why don’t you like Gabbard?Yeah, he is probably the third on my list, but still not close.
8% in recent NH poll.I keep forgetting that Gabbard is still running.
Bloomberg ran NYC. On all these political tests I always seem to lineup with him. Agree with him on quite a few policies.You're worried about Steyer but not Bloomberg?