Ranking the LB, DB and DL positions (1 Viewer)

[Rovers]

I frankly don't know enough about GB's scheme to explain it, but in the Jets D last year, Jason Ferguson was the technique 2, or nose tackle in the 4-3. The technique 2 is also called the slant nose tackle. DeWayne Robertson was the technique 3, or DT in the Jets front four. generally speaking, the T-3 has more opportunity for sacks, and will often, if not usually outscore the T-2 tackle. The T-3 has more room to roam with less rushing lane responsablity than the T-3. Of course, no formula always holds true, and Ferguson outpointed Robertson by a small margin last year.

 

[pretender]

So it is not necessarily where this UT or 3 T tackle lines up but whether or not he is responsible for shooting the single gap. So looking at a standard roster description, its not lgoing to say UT, you just need to know the schemes of the various teams and who on that defense would most likely by virtue of talent be that UT/ DT and should get more tackles and sacks therefore getting more fantasy points. But all in all you'd be better off getting talented RDE and LDE in a 4-3 lineup is what it sounds like.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

So it is not necessarily where this UT or 3 T tackle lines up but whether or not he is responsible for shooting the single gap. So looking at a standard roster description, its not lgoing to say UT, you just need to know the schemes of the various teams and who on that defense would most likely by virtue of talent be that UT/ DT and should get more tackles and sacks therefore getting more fantasy points.

But all in all you'd be better off getting talented RDE and LDE in a 4-3 lineup is what it sounds like.

actually, it does have something to do with where they line up. I think the NT usually lines up between the Center and the Guard and are asked to control the middle of the line (often 2 gaps). The UT usually lines up between the opposite Guard and Tackle, and thus only has 1-gap responsibility b/c the DE has the edge and the NT has the middle. If the G on that side double teams the NT, the UT has plenty of space and only 1 guard to beat. So, you generally put your quickest DT at the UT spot b/c they get a better chance to shoot gaps and make plays. Meanwhile, the NT relies more heavily on strength b/c they just need to anchor and control the middle of the line, often times taking on double teams.Some teams, like the Bears I believe, use 2 DTs who both are asked to shoot gaps rather than tie up blockers and let the LBs make plays. But, most teams usually employ a UT and a DT.

this might be a better description than the one I provided earlier:

DEFENSIVE TACKLE

The "2" Technique places the DT at the inside eye of the OG keying the Guard. Responsibilities are as follows:

#1=Defeat the Guard and pursue the play.

#2=Check for the Draw.

#3=Rush the passer.

The "3" Gap Technique aligns the Defensive Tackle (DT) in the gap between the Offensive Guard (OG) and Offensive Tackle (OT). The DT keys the movements of the OG and OT. Duties are as follows:

#1=Explode through the gap one to one and a half yards with the head up looking for the ball.

#2=If the gap is narrow make contact and read and react resisting the flow of the play.

#3=Look for the trap, then flow to the play.

#4=Rush the passer.

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[redman]

Why don't we create a list of the starting UT's in the league? Here are the ones I'm sure are UT's:Kevin WilliamsRod ColemanJohn HendersonCornelius GriffinFred RobbinsThe rest are a bit more ambiguous, or are on teams that are going to the 3-4 this year (e.g. L'Roi Glover in Dallas) unless I'm missing someone.

 

[Rovers]

Put Jet DeWayne Robertson on that list. I actually believe he makes the pro bowl, probably in 2005, but, barring injury, for sure by 2006. This is also my first year in IDP, so, I'm not at all up to speed on the rest of the NFL in this area....yet.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Why don't we create a list of the starting UT's in the league? Here are the ones I'm sure are UT's:

Kevin Williams

Rod Coleman

John Henderson

Cornelius Griffin

Fred Robbins

The rest are a bit more ambiguous, or are on teams that are going to the 3-4 this year (e.g. L'Roi Glover in Dallas) unless I'm missing someone.

you could probably add all these guys:Tommie Harris, Chicago

Dewayne Robertson, NY Jets

Warren Sapp, Oakland

Shaun Rogers, Detroit

Anthony McFarland, Tampa

Darnell Dockett, Arizona

Cletidus Hunt, Green Bay

 

[The Man With No Name]

Darnell Dockett is also a UT in Arizona. He was a rookie starter last season.

 

[Rovers]

I wonder about Sapp.... in more ways than this, but do we even know what the heck the Oakland D will do this year? #-4, 4-3, it seems they dont even know. I like that Dockett pick.....

 

[redman]

The problem is that the Jets play a hybrid 3-4, so it's difficult to say that Robertson is a true UT. Still, his duties by and large are to do the things that a UT does . . .

 

[Rovers]

redman, that is what they say..... but J Abraham has not played very well in the 3-4 at all. The Jets really are a base 4-3. Abraham has all the tools to play well in the 3-4, but he just doesnt have the desire. Bottom line. Abraham is not a team player.

 

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[ConstruxBoy]

This the one?

 

[jevy]

Bump, just because this info is useful.

 

[bcr8f]

Green Bay still plays the Jim Bates 4-3. And now Denver should too. They play a more safety supporting the run than a cover 2.

Denver drafted pass rushing ends but he believes in stopping the run first. Then getting Bly helps cover WR's so the ends can get pressure and sacks.

Green Bay drafted a run stuffing DT which should also help the ends on 3rd and long.