Ranking the young RB talent out there (1 Viewer)

[Warpig]

I'm in the middle of my draft. It's a 32 team league and we start 1 qb, 1rb, 2 wr, 1 te, 1 k, and 1 flex. It is an auction format and qb's and rb's have been flying off the boards for insane amounts of money. My strategy is to build depth incase I hit that one diamond in the rough. The names above are what are available and I'd rather spend money and contract years on a young player than a washed up 30 something. We also have to fill out IDP's so I'm not biting at the overpriced RB's. So far my team is compsed of:

qb) Pennington (he was cheap and has potential)

rb) Jamal Lewis (hoping for a return to glory)

lb) Jonathan Vilma

I still have over $900 of cap dollars (out of $1300) which puts me in good shape compared to everyone else financially for the stretch run coming up...player prices starting to come back down to earth. It is a point per reception league by the way. Without putting to much emphasis on the players team and whether they have good talent around them, I just need to know which of the above guys might have the best chance to produce if given the chance and who might be given the chance sooner rather than later.

Thanks!

 

[wannabee]

I think Perry stands out in this group

 

[brewer]

The answer is Perry even without the point per reception. Throw that in(no pun intended) and it's a no brainer.

 

[Spike]

The answer is Perry even without the point per reception. Throw that in(no pun intended) and it's a no brainer.

 

[-OZ-]

The answer is Perry even without the point per reception. Throw that in(no pun intended) and it's a no brainer.

this shouldn't be (and isn't) close. You can take a few of these guys out of consideration even IMO.Potential to be elite, if given the chance:

Chris Perry

Potential to be a decent starter, should the chance arise

Eric Shelton

T.J. Duckett

Greg Jones

Ciatrick Fason

Cedrick Houston

RBBC at best

Brandon Jacobs

Ryan Moats

Vernand Morency

Alvin Pearman

Correll Buckhalter

WTF knows / mind ain't right

Onterrio Smith

Just my opinion, and I am a lifelong Michigan fan, so I may be biased (also happen to own Perry in my main league), but Perry is among the top half of the league's RBs in talent. Rudi is an underrated RB in his own right, so it will take time before Perry realizes his potential, but then it did for Larry Johnson too.

 

[Renegades of Funk]

Micheal Turner is a guy that should definitely be on the list.

 

[Warpig]

Micheal Turner is a guy that should definitely be on the list.

I thought about him...but I ran out of room.

 

[wannabee]

i see turner on par with perry. they each stand out from this crowd.

 

[jeff_eaglz]

The answer is Perry even without the point per reception. Throw that in(no pun intended) and it's a no brainer.

this shouldn't be (and isn't) close. You can take a few of these guys out of consideration even IMO.Potential to be elite, if given the chance:

Chris Perry

Potential to be a decent starter, should the chance arise

Eric Shelton

T.J. Duckett

Greg Jones

Ciatrick Fason

Cedrick Houston

RBBC at best

Brandon Jacobs

Ryan Moats

Vernand Morency

Alvin Pearman

Correll Buckhalter

WTF knows / mind ain't right

Onterrio Smith

Just my opinion, and I am a lifelong Michigan fan, so I may be biased (also happen to own Perry in my main league), but Perry is among the top half of the league's RBs in talent. Rudi is an underrated RB in his own right, so it will take time before Perry realizes his potential, but then it did for Larry Johnson too.

Pretty much nailed it.

 

[-OZ-]

i see turner on par with perry. they each stand out from this crowd.

I can see that. I don't know that I'd put him on par, but ahead of the rest of these guys.

 

[Renegades of Funk]

Turner and Perry have both shown potential in their limited opportunities. It would be interesting to see how the poll would have went had Turner been on it - would keep Perry from running away with it at least.

 

[diesel7982]

Ryan Moats

Greg Jones

Chris Perry

Alvin Pearman

TJ Duckett

 

[Bloom]

I agree that OZ hit the nail on the head. I would also only put Turner a shade behind Perry for future prospects.

 

[wannabee]

not to hijack, but I would actually put Turner higher than Perry. I really like Turner. I think he could be special.

 

[theedge]

I think Perry is the best that you mention, however, playing behind Rudi he doesn't get enough playing time to help you out should something happen to Jamal.

Eric Shelton Don't know what Carolina will do as far as FA/draft.

Brandon Jacobs No.

T.J. Duckett Where will he end up?

Ryan Moats ? Probably not.

Chris Perry The best here.

Vernand Morency Where does he go?

Alvin Pearman No. RB in FA or draft?

Greg Jones No. RB in FA or draft?

Onterrio Smith What will the Vikes do? RB in FA or draft?

Ciatrick Fason No. RB in FA or draft?

Cedrick Houston He's liable to get a good amount of carries spelling

Martin and may replace him next year.

Correll Buckhalter No. Can't stay healthy.

Risky, I know but because I believe he will have more opportunities and a better chance of being a starter, I would take Houston.

 

[Warpig]

I think Perry is the best that you mention, however, playing behind Rudi he doesn't get enough playing time to help you out should something happen to Jamal.

Eric Shelton Don't know what Carolina will do as far as FA/draft.

Brandon Jacobs No.

T.J. Duckett Where will he end up?

Ryan Moats ? Probably not.

Chris Perry The best here.

Vernand Morency Where does he go?

Alvin Pearman No. RB in FA or draft?

Greg Jones No. RB in FA or draft?

Onterrio Smith What will the Vikes do? RB in FA or draft?

Ciatrick Fason No. RB in FA or draft?

Cedrick Houston He's liable to get a good amount of carries spelling

Martin and may replace him next year.

Correll Buckhalter No. Can't stay healthy.

Risky, I know but because I believe he will have more opportunities and a better chance of being a starter, I would take Houston.

I just read something else saying Houston is another possible steal. I'm just scared because of the new headcoach they have in NY. But my God...C-Mart is 33 years old! And what about Blaylock? He's shown flashes as well. I guess I've never seen much of Houston. I've seen plenty of Blaylock being here in KC.*** Also ***

Chris Perry has just been thrown out for bidding in my league and he's up over $600 now! I see him riding the pine for a couple more years due to Rudi. I'm starting to lean towards Shelton, Duckett, Moats, or Houston.

 

[David Yudkin]

I'd be worried at QB. Pennington might not ever be a starter again and his durability and arm strength are SERIOUS issues.

 

[Portis 26]

Moats has all the skills of Westbrook, there's no reason why he couldn't achieve exactly the same success he has.

 

[Warpig]

I think Perry is the best that you mention, however, playing behind Rudi he doesn't get enough playing time to help you out should something happen to Jamal.

Eric Shelton Don't know what Carolina will do as far as FA/draft.

Brandon Jacobs No.

T.J. Duckett Where will he end up?

Ryan Moats ? Probably not.

Chris Perry The best here.

Vernand Morency Where does he go?

Alvin Pearman No. RB in FA or draft?

Greg Jones No. RB in FA or draft?

Onterrio Smith What will the Vikes do? RB in FA or draft?

Ciatrick Fason No. RB in FA or draft?

Cedrick Houston He's liable to get a good amount of carries spelling

Martin and may replace him next year.

Correll Buckhalter No. Can't stay healthy.

Risky, I know but because I believe he will have more opportunities and a better chance of being a starter, I would take Houston.

Now that Chris Perry is gone (for around $700!), and Onterrio Smith was just won...I think I'm leaning more to Eric Shelton, Moats, Duckett, and Houston. I don't get a warm fuzzy from either of the backs in J-ville (Jones and Pearman). Vernand Morency has already been won! I don't see him ever doing anything stuck deep down on that Houston bench with Bush, D.Davis, J. Wells, and the other guy from Georgia Tech.

 

[BoltBacker]

I'd be worried at QB. Pennington might not ever be a starter again and his durability and arm strength are SERIOUS issues.

Warpigs also has Collins and is assuming Collins will start for someone next season. I tend to agree. OAK, NYJ, NO, DET..... SOMEBODY will give him a job and he's still got a strong arm. I can't think of many players that have been the scapegoat for more underachieving teams than Kerry Collins.Pennington is just a $69/yr backup that is a gamble just in case Chad can turn it all around.

 

[BoltBacker]

Now that Chris Perry is gone (for around $700!), and Onterrio Smith was just won...I think I'm leaning more to Eric Shelton, Moats, Duckett, and Houston.

I'm one of the "desperate" teams at RB but even I'm hesitant on Houston until after the draft. Of course, he'll be gone by then.

 

[Fumbleweed]

Is Perry that much younger than Rudi? I don't think he is.....

 

[Warpig]

I'd be worried at QB.  Pennington might not ever be a starter again and his durability and arm strength are SERIOUS issues.

Warpigs also has Collins and is assuming Collins will start for someone next season. I tend to agree. OAK, NYJ, NO, DET..... SOMEBODY will give him a job and he's still got a strong arm. I can't think of many players that have been the scapegoat for more underachieving teams than Kerry Collins.Pennington is just a $69/yr backup that is a gamble just in case Chad can turn it all around.

UH-OH!!! SAN DIEGO SURGE?!?!?

 

[Warpig]

Is Perry that much younger than Rudi? I don't think he is.....

Johnson was born in '79, Perry in '81. That's why I don't see Perry being that much of a contributor since Rudi just got a nice contract. Let someone else take Perry.

 

[wannabee]

Is Perry that much younger than Rudi? I don't think he is.....

Johnson was born in '79, Perry in '81. That's why I don't see Perry being that much of a contributor since Rudi just got a nice contract. Let someone else take Perry.

Good point on the ages of each. But, I would ask you to consider this:Rudi has 995 touches in his career, 736 of which occurred in the last two years

Perry has a total of 63 carries and 54 receptions in his career.

Now, I realize that Perry had injury issues with the hernia, but looking forward, which do you think has the higher probability to player longer for now on?

 

[BoltBacker]

I'd be worried at QB. Pennington might not ever be a starter again and his durability and arm strength are SERIOUS issues.

Warpigs also has Collins and is assuming Collins will start for someone next season. I tend to agree. OAK, NYJ, NO, DET..... SOMEBODY will give him a job and he's still got a strong arm. I can't think of many players that have been the scapegoat for more underachieving teams than Kerry Collins.Pennington is just a $69/yr backup that is a gamble just in case Chad can turn it all around.

UH-OH!!! SAN DIEGO SURGE?!?!?

Giving a FIVE YEAR contract to W.Dunn???? Not quite. But maybe that's why he doesn't have to slum in this thread looking for the cheap-o's. He'll pay later.

 

[BoltBacker]

I'd be worried at QB. Pennington might not ever be a starter again and his durability and arm strength are SERIOUS issues.

"Two Jets' players have lobbied for the release of QB Chad Pennington.

Impact: "I think we should release him; he's too injury-prone," one player said. "He's like an egg back there," another player said, referring to Pennington's fragility. "I mean, look at the ways he's gotten hurt. He hasn't even been hit that hard. The injuries have come from awkward hits and falls. I think we should just cut him." Sounds like offensive linemen.

"

coupled with...

" QB Chad Pennington's agent has rejected the Jets' proposal to slash the injured quarterback's base salary for 2006 to $1 million and force him to earn the remaining $8 million he is owed through incentives. The Jets have until March 3 to decide if they can live with Pennington's current contract, negotiate a cap reduction or release him. Pennington's camp is opposed to forfeiting any of the $9 million he is due, a scenario that, if unresolved, could lead to his release. "

... certainly don't sound positive.

 

[Death and Taxes]

Moats has all the skills of Westbrook, there's no reason why he couldn't achieve exactly the same success he has.

Not quite yet. He still has to develop his NFL receiving and blocking games. However he may be better at running the ball.Why are we wasting space with Buckhalter? This guy is one injury away from retirement.

 

[Bears_Man2]

Perry is the only one of the group with star quality.

OZ's post was right on.