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Rashad Jennings- Out for year (2011) (1 Viewer)

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Been reported by espn to be placed on IR. MJD looks like a safe bet to carry close to full load as long as knee holds out, with karim more of a change od pace guy.

 
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Picked up Karim in one league, but wish I had someone worse than Delone Carter or Antonio Brown to drop for Karim. He looks like poor man's MJD.

 
Wow, a bit unexpected.

I don't think MJD is automatically more valuable than he was yesterday.

With even less help to spell him, can his knee hold up for the whole season?

Some owners were already worried about him lasting the season.

Seems like Jacksonville will be looking to pick someone up.

 
How does Deji compare to other handcuff types like Delone Carter, Ben Tate, Derrick Ward, Kendal Hunter, Roy Helu, etc? Is his non handcuff value higher than any or all of them?

 
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For those who don't listen to MJD's fantasy football show on Sirius/XM, he's been pounding home a point all summer for everyone who doubts him. Just about every day, he tells a caller "I had over 1,600 total yards last year playing on ONE LEG! I was not healthy all season long. I am telling you right now that I am 100% and you will regret it if you don't draft me."

He got those 1,600+ yards in 14 games, BTW.

Maybe he sucked me in, but I'm a believer. At his size, he's had to prove himself every step of the way.

MJD with a chip on his shoulder = BAD THINGS, MAN!

:hifive:

 
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For those who don't listen to MJD's fantasy football show on Sirius/XM, he's been pounding home a point all summer for everyone who doubts him. Just about every day, he tells a caller "I had over 1,600 total yards last year playing on ONE LEG! I was not healthy all season long. I am telling you right now that I am 100% and you will regret it if you don't draft me."

He got those 1,600+ yards in 14 games, BTW.

Maybe he sucked me in, but I'm a believer. At his size, he's had to prove himself every step of the way.

MJD with a chip on his shoulder = BAD THINGS, MAN!

:hifive:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_complex
 
For those who don't listen to MJD's fantasy football show on Sirius/XM, he's been pounding home a point all summer for everyone who doubts him. Just about every day, he tells a caller "I had over 1,600 total yards last year playing on ONE LEG! I was not healthy all season long. I am telling you right now that I am 100% and you will regret it if you don't draft me."

He got those 1,600+ yards in 14 games, BTW.

Maybe he sucked me in, but I'm a believer. At his size, he's had to prove himself every step of the way.

MJD with a chip on his shoulder = BAD THINGS, MAN!

:hifive:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_complex
Sincerely,Guy Who Missed Out On Him

 
I never like to see anyone get hurt, but for those of us who stole MJD in the 3rd round....

:excited: :excited: :excited:
Not sure why you are so excited. :confused: Unless you think it wasn't MJD's recent injury history that was the reason MJD was slipping. Deji Karim just became this week's waiver wire darling.
Y'all are messing with me, right? DEJI KARIM (whatever that is) will not see the same workload that Jennings would have. Period.

Spinning this as anything other than GREAT news for MJD is foolish.

 
For those who don't listen to MJD's fantasy football show on Sirius/XM, he's been pounding home a point all summer for everyone who doubts him. Just about every day, he tells a caller "I had over 1,600 total yards last year playing on ONE LEG! I was not healthy all season long. I am telling you right now that I am 100% and you will regret it if you don't draft me."

He got those 1,600+ yards in 14 games, BTW.

Maybe he sucked me in, but I'm a believer. At his size, he's had to prove himself every step of the way.

MJD with a chip on his shoulder = BAD THINGS, MAN!

:hifive:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_complex
Sincerely,Guy Who Missed Out On Him
Yeah I get it RN. He's an elite back with a huge drive to prove the doubters wrong. Realize though, all of it will only go so far as his body allows him to. And he's on a bottom 3 in the league team as far as offense goes... In the 3rd you have to take him, but he was just outside the top 10 in most of my leagues and I didn't want him there.
 
For those who don't listen to MJD's fantasy football show on Sirius/XM, he's been pounding home a point all summer for everyone who doubts him. Just about every day, he tells a caller "I had over 1,600 total yards last year playing on ONE LEG! I was not healthy all season long. I am telling you right now that I am 100% and you will regret it if you don't draft me."

He got those 1,600+ yards in 14 games, BTW.

Maybe he sucked me in, but I'm a believer. At his size, he's had to prove himself every step of the way.

MJD with a chip on his shoulder = BAD THINGS, MAN!

:hifive:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_complex
Sincerely,Guy Who Missed Out On Him
Yeah I get it RN. He's an elite back with a huge drive to prove the doubters wrong. Realize though, all of it will only go so far as his body allows him to. And he's on a bottom 3 in the league team as far as offense goes... In the 3rd you have to take him, but he was just outside the top 10 in most of my leagues and I didn't want him there.
I am going to come back in December and laugh at all of you. LAUGH, I tell you!!!Unless he gets hurt again... in which case this thread never existed. :bag:

 
I never like to see anyone get hurt, but for those of us who stole MJD in the 3rd round....

:excited: :excited: :excited:
Not sure why you are so excited. :confused: Unless you think it wasn't MJD's recent injury history that was the reason MJD was slipping. Deji Karim just became this week's waiver wire darling.
Y'all are messing with me, right? DEJI KARIM (whatever that is) will not see the same workload that Jennings would have. Period.

Spinning this as anything other than GREAT news for MJD is foolish.
I'm not trying to burst your bubble, but I don't think it makes any difference. Karim is a solid player and battled Jennings for the #2 role pretty hard last year, and many, myself included, felt he was better than Jennings. I think he is a good talent. MJD's knees are on borrowed time. I doubt he gets more carries after the Jennings injury. I think Karim gets Jennings carries plus a few, and then Owens and whoever else pick up a few other carries. I think in essence it's a wash for MJD, providing his knees hold up.
 
I never like to see anyone get hurt, but for those of us who stole MJD in the 3rd round....

:excited: :excited: :excited:
Not sure why you are so excited. :confused: Unless you think it wasn't MJD's recent injury history that was the reason MJD was slipping. Deji Karim just became this week's waiver wire darling.
Y'all are messing with me, right? DEJI KARIM (whatever that is) will not see the same workload that Jennings would have. Period.

Spinning this as anything other than GREAT news for MJD is foolish.
Sleep on Deji Karim at your own risk, you have been warned.
 
Paul Kuharsky:

Running back Rashad Jennings tweeted that his knee injury prompted the Jaguars to place him on injured reserve.So Jacksonville officially has depth concerns at running back.Maurice Jones-Drew is coming off knee surgery and did little in the preseason, appearing only in the finale. The team has talked about lightening his load, and the primary guy to do that was going to be Jennings.Deji Karim is a nice change-up back, but the team could now look for a bigger guy as insurance for Jones-Drew, and to take some of his work on first and second down.Jacksonville media pressed Jack Del Rio recently about the running back plan if Jennings wasn’t ready for the Sept. 11 opener against the Titans.Here’s that exchange: If Rashad Jennings is not ready for the opener, how confident are you in Deji Karim to be the backup? Talk about him and his readiness if he has to be the number two guy. Del Rio: "I feel great about our backfield. I think we have depth. I think we have productive guys that will step up and play big for us. Deji is one of them. I think you’ll see an increased role with Montell (Owens), an increased role with Brock (Bolen). But Deji in particular has been very explosive this preseason. He’s got some real quicks, he’s got great vision and he’s been improved in all facets of his game. And the thing that stands out is the explosive element that he brings." So Brock Bolen and Montell Owens will carry the ball more? “Yes, they’ll be involved.” What’s your thinking there? “Just using our talent, just using the players we have.” So does that mean Maurice Jones-Drew won’t have quite as many carries as he has in the past? “No, that means that Maurice is still going to get his load but the question was asked if Rashad is not able to go, how will we fill that and I spoke about that.” So Deji Karim, Brock Bolen and Montell Owens will be the backups? “Yeah, we like the whole group top to bottom.”It’s hard to get excited about carries for Owens, a fullback who works as a special-teams ace or Bolen, also a fullback. Surely it was an oversight that Del Rio didn’t mention a longtime favorite, starting fullback Greg Jones. Frankly, no team should ever carry three fullbacks.The Jaguars need a second or third option who's spent time carrying the ball.
 
For those who don't listen to MJD's fantasy football show on Sirius/XM, he's been pounding home a point all summer for everyone who doubts him. Just about every day, he tells a caller "I had over 1,600 total yards last year playing on ONE LEG! I was not healthy all season long. I am telling you right now that I am 100% and you will regret it if you don't draft me."

He got those 1,600+ yards in 14 games, BTW.

Maybe he sucked me in, but I'm a believer. At his size, he's had to prove himself every step of the way.

MJD with a chip on his shoulder = BAD THINGS, MAN!

:hifive:
My thoughts exactly.Of course none of that has anything to do with whether it's Jennings or Karim backing him up. Hence the Jennings news not making a difference. MJD > Jennings. So if MJD is healthy and can hold up, then Jennings wasn't going to make much of a dent even if he hadn't got hurt.

 
I never like to see anyone get hurt, but for those of us who stole MJD in the 3rd round....

:excited: :excited: :excited:
Not sure why you are so excited. :confused: Unless you think it wasn't MJD's recent injury history that was the reason MJD was slipping. Deji Karim just became this week's waiver wire darling.
Y'all are messing with me, right? DEJI KARIM (whatever that is) will not see the same workload that Jennings would have. Period.

Spinning this as anything other than GREAT news for MJD is foolish.
I'm not trying to burst your bubble, but I don't think it makes any difference. Karim is a solid player and battled Jennings for the #2 role pretty hard last year, and many, myself included, felt he was better than Jennings. I think he is a good talent. MJD's knees are on borrowed time. I doubt he gets more carries after the Jennings injury. I think Karim gets Jennings carries plus a few, and then Owens and whoever else pick up a few other carries. I think in essence it's a wash for MJD, providing his knees hold up.
Good posting.Rashad Jennings wasn't a risk to take carries from MJD because Rashad Jennings was a talent that couldn't be denied touches. It's clear that the risk was based solely on the coaching staff's concerns about MJD's knee holding up under a full workload.

If the staff has concerns about MJD's knee, then they are going to address that concern even though Jennings has ended up on IR. Jennings going to IR doesn't help MJD's value because he will still be at risk of some of his carries going to someone who can lighten his load.

 
Paul Kuharsky:

Running back Rashad Jennings tweeted that his knee injury prompted the Jaguars to place him on injured reserve.So Jacksonville officially has depth concerns at running back.Maurice Jones-Drew is coming off knee surgery and did little in the preseason, appearing only in the finale. The team has talked about lightening his load, and the primary guy to do that was going to be Jennings.Deji Karim is a nice change-up back, but the team could now look for a bigger guy as insurance for Jones-Drew, and to take some of his work on first and second down.Jacksonville media pressed Jack Del Rio recently about the running back plan if Jennings wasn’t ready for the Sept. 11 opener against the Titans.Here’s that exchange: If Rashad Jennings is not ready for the opener, how confident are you in Deji Karim to be the backup? Talk about him and his readiness if he has to be the number two guy. Del Rio: "I feel great about our backfield. I think we have depth. I think we have productive guys that will step up and play big for us. Deji is one of them. I think you’ll see an increased role with Montell (Owens), an increased role with Brock (Bolen). But Deji in particular has been very explosive this preseason. He’s got some real quicks, he’s got great vision and he’s been improved in all facets of his game. And the thing that stands out is the explosive element that he brings." So Brock Bolen and Montell Owens will carry the ball more? “Yes, they’ll be involved.” What’s your thinking there? “Just using our talent, just using the players we have.” So does that mean Maurice Jones-Drew won’t have quite as many carries as he has in the past? “No, that means that Maurice is still going to get his load but the question was asked if Rashad is not able to go, how will we fill that and I spoke about that.” So Deji Karim, Brock Bolen and Montell Owens will be the backups? “Yeah, we like the whole group top to bottom.”It’s hard to get excited about carries for Owens, a fullback who works as a special-teams ace or Bolen, also a fullback. Surely it was an oversight that Del Rio didn’t mention a longtime favorite, starting fullback Greg Jones. Frankly, no team should ever carry three fullbacks.The Jaguars need a second or third option who's spent time carrying the ball.
You do realize that this article does nothing to support your assertion that the Jennings injury is good news for MJD, right?In fact, Del Rio essentially admits the opposite assertion that many of us were pointing out...that MJD's use is going to be determined by his ability to hold up...which has nothing to do with Jennings. If MJD needs to give those carries up to remain fresh and productive, the only impact of the Jennings injury will be in which other RB on the roster gets those carries. MJD isn't backing himself up.
 
Paul Kuharsky:

Running back Rashad Jennings tweeted that his knee injury prompted the Jaguars to place him on injured reserve.

So Jacksonville officially has depth concerns at running back.

Maurice Jones-Drew is coming off knee surgery and did little in the preseason, appearing only in the finale. The team has talked about lightening his load, and the primary guy to do that was going to be Jennings.

Deji Karim is a nice change-up back, but the team could now look for a bigger guy as insurance for Jones-Drew, and to take some of his work on first and second down.

Jacksonville media pressed Jack Del Rio recently about the running back plan if Jennings wasn’t ready for the Sept. 11 opener against the Titans.

Here’s that exchange:

If Rashad Jennings is not ready for the opener, how confident are you in Deji Karim to be the backup? Talk about him and his readiness if he has to be the number two guy.

Del Rio: "I feel great about our backfield. I think we have depth. I think we have productive guys that will step up and play big for us. Deji is one of them. I think you’ll see an increased role with Montell (Owens), an increased role with Brock (Bolen). But Deji in particular has been very explosive this preseason. He’s got some real quicks, he’s got great vision and he’s been improved in all facets of his game. And the thing that stands out is the explosive element that he brings."

So Brock Bolen and Montell Owens will carry the ball more?

“Yes, they’ll be involved.”

What’s your thinking there?

“Just using our talent, just using the players we have.”

So does that mean Maurice Jones-Drew won’t have quite as many carries as he has in the past?

“No, that means that Maurice is still going to get his load but the question was asked if Rashad is not able to go, how will we fill that and I spoke about that.”

So Deji Karim, Brock Bolen and Montell Owens will be the backups?

“Yeah, we like the whole group top to bottom.”

It’s hard to get excited about carries for Owens, a fullback who works as a special-teams ace or Bolen, also a fullback. Surely it was an oversight that Del Rio didn’t mention a longtime favorite, starting fullback Greg Jones. Frankly, no team should ever carry three fullbacks.

The Jaguars need a second or third option who's spent time carrying the ball.
You do realize that this article does nothing to support your assertion that the Jennings injury is good news for MJD, right?
I can read, yes.Fair and balanced.

 
MJD's knees are on borrowed time.
How do you figure? It was a routine meniscus surgery which was a complete success and there is no structural damage.
Rotoworld (from January):Maurice Jones-Drew revealed Tuesday that his right knee was "bone-on-bone" by the end of the season, and his recovery from meniscus surgery is now expected to take four months.The injury was initially described as a routine scope that would have Jones-Drew "back to normal" in short order. His clarification leads us to suspect the surgery may have, in fact, been microfracture in nature. Until sitting out the final two games, Jones-Drew played the whole season with a torn meniscus. It's fair to wonder if doing so will shorten his career. Torry Holt and Antonio Bryant never captured pre-injury form after bone-on-bone conditions related to meniscus surgeries. The news makes MJD a far less stable investment in Dynasty formats, and a threat to decline sharply in the short term.Source: Tania Ganguli on TwitterJan 25 - 4:02 PM
 
MJD's knees are on borrowed time.
How do you figure? It was a routine meniscus surgery which was a complete success and there is no structural damage.
Rotoworld (from January):Maurice Jones-Drew revealed Tuesday that his right knee was "bone-on-bone" by the end of the season, and his recovery from meniscus surgery is now expected to take four months.The injury was initially described as a routine scope that would have Jones-Drew "back to normal" in short order. His clarification leads us to suspect the surgery may have, in fact, been microfracture in nature. Until sitting out the final two games, Jones-Drew played the whole season with a torn meniscus. It's fair to wonder if doing so will shorten his career. Torry Holt and Antonio Bryant never captured pre-injury form after bone-on-bone conditions related to meniscus surgeries. The news makes MJD a far less stable investment in Dynasty formats, and a threat to decline sharply in the short term.Source: Tania Ganguli on TwitterJan 25 - 4:02 PM
Fair enough.Since it's a redraft, I still like the value and I'll take my chances.
 
I never like to see anyone get hurt, but for those of us who stole MJD in the 3rd round....

:excited: :excited: :excited:
Not sure why you are so excited. :confused: Unless you think it wasn't MJD's recent injury history that was the reason MJD was slipping. Deji Karim just became this week's waiver wire darling.
Y'all are messing with me, right? DEJI KARIM (whatever that is) will not see the same workload that Jennings would have. Period.

Spinning this as anything other than GREAT news for MJD is foolish.
I'm not trying to burst your bubble, but I don't think it makes any difference. Karim is a solid player and battled Jennings for the #2 role pretty hard last year, and many, myself included, felt he was better than Jennings. I think he is a good talent. MJD's knees are on borrowed time. I doubt he gets more carries after the Jennings injury. I think Karim gets Jennings carries plus a few, and then Owens and whoever else pick up a few other carries. I think in essence it's a wash for MJD, providing his knees hold up.
:goodposting: RN is going overboard with this. I didnt take Jennings in any league. Glad to have swiftly grabbed Karim in both my leagues before the IR announcement was even official.

 
I'm not trying to burst your bubble, but I don't think it makes any difference. Karim is a solid player and battled Jennings for the #2 role pretty hard last year, and many, myself included, felt he was better than Jennings. I think he is a good talent. MJD's knees are on borrowed time. I doubt he gets more carries after the Jennings injury. I think Karim gets Jennings carries plus a few, and then Owens and whoever else pick up a few other carries. I think in essence it's a wash for MJD, providing his knees hold up.
:goodposting:RN is going overboard with this. I didnt take Jennings in any league. Glad to have swiftly grabbed Karim in both my leagues before the IR announcement was even official.
We'll find out soon enough. Won't be the first time I've been wrong.But for now..... :banned:
 
If anything i think this hurts those of us who already thought MJD was gonna hit it big this year. Even playing hurt last year he still put up big #s. Year before that, on an equally poor Jags O, he was the #2 RB in FF.

ETA, i dont think the Jennings injury changes much for MJD in 2011. But i do think it brings him into the minds of people who might have quickly dismissed him this year

 
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MJD's knees are on borrowed time.
How do you figure? It was a routine meniscus surgery which was a complete success and there is no structural damage.
I can't believe you didn't know it was most likely microfracture and that his knee was bone on bone... I would have gone harder after you if you didn't know that, but I thought you accepted that and were taking it into account. I actually POSTED that his knee was bone on bone in the late winter. :rolleyes:
 
MJD's knees are on borrowed time.
How do you figure? It was a routine meniscus surgery which was a complete success and there is no structural damage.
I can't believe you didn't know it was most likely microfracture and that his knee was bone on bone... I would have gone harder after you if you didn't know that, but I thought you accepted that and were taking it into account. I actually POSTED that his knee was bone on bone in the late winter. :rolleyes:
Oh, well, in that case.... go have yourself one big ol' cookie! :thumbup:
 
MJD's knees are on borrowed time.
How do you figure? It was a routine meniscus surgery which was a complete success and there is no structural damage.
I can't believe you didn't know it was most likely microfracture and that his knee was bone on bone... I would have gone harder after you if you didn't know that, but I thought you accepted that and were taking it into account. I actually POSTED that his knee was bone on bone in the late winter. :rolleyes:
Oh, well, in that case.... go have yourself one big ol' cookie! :thumbup:
LOL. Alright well good luck with Mojo this year anyway, he's a great player and the game is better with him being superstar- and so is your team. :thumbup:

 
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Really impressed by Karim this preseason
Still, it makes sense that Jacksonville will be looking to pick someone else up.Stafon Johnson was just waived by the Titans.Hey, didn't Kareem Huggins look good in preseason last year?Then LeGarrette Blount was waived by the Titans...
 
Mjd isn't going to get anymore carrires than he would have with Jennings. MJD was and is the feature back. At times he'll need a break, and that's when Jennings would have been in and now Karim will be in.

The truth is if you were a believer in MJD, you were already getting good value in late first and early 2nd round drafts. The injury of Jennings does not make me now wish I had MJD, Jennings was not the deterant of me avoiding MJD, the deterant for me was MJD himself.

 
As a 2010-MJD-owner who listened to MJD tell us all he was 100% from the moment rumors came up about knee problems last August only to find out it was bone-on-bone, I put ZERO stock in anything MJD says about his level of health, especially when he, himself, was telling us a month ago that he was only 80%.

On top of that, while I realize he got a decent amount of goal line work last year, it SEEMED like the coaches pulled MJD every time they got inside the 15, at least for a few plays, resulting in Lewis catching 10TDs and Jennings having 1 less rushing TD than MJD, despite nearly 1/4 the carries.

The fact that we've seen this time and time again the year after a back has a huge increase in touches ( after Fragile Fred left ), has me worried. I'd be willing to bet that the team philosophy going into this season was to get MJD less touches and hope for higher efficiency. If the Jennings injury results in touches, I'd be worried that the increased workload will result in an exponentially higher chance of injury. It was admirable what he did last year, but surgery never makes the body BETTER than it was before.

Still, I'd project a very slight bump unless Karim comes out and sets the world on fire with his increased opportunity, which he'll surely have, now. Either way, my guess is they try to spread Jennings' touches among whomever is left on the RB-bench.

 
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