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Evilgrin 72

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And as such, I'm not really sure where I'm weak and could/should look to trade to shore up certain positions. Does this belong in the ACF?

This is a 10-team AL/NL 5x5 scoring, 22 round draft, start 1 at each position plus an extra infielder and a utility player, 5 SP and 2 RP. Daily lineup changes, so having a couple extra starters is advisable to pile up wins and Ks. Scoring is weekly head-to-head.

C- Brian McCann

1B - Albert Pujols

2B - Ian Kinsler

SS - Hanley Ramirez

3B - Ryan Zimmerman

IF - Dan Uggla

OF - Josh Hamilton

OF - Jay Bruce

OF - Adam Jones

Util - Jay Stubbs

BN - Yoenis Cespedes

BN - Brett Gardner

BN - Adam Lind

P - Madison Bumgarner

P - C.J. Wilson

P - Mat Latos

P - Anibal Sanchez

P - Johnny Cueto

BN - Jeremy Hellickson

BN - Jair Jurrjens

RP - Jordan Walden

RP - Carlos Marmol

Obviously, I went IF early and often, and I think I'm more than solid there, except that Ramirez is the only guy I have with SS eligibility, so if he gets hurt, I'm going to have to go to the waiver wire. OF is unspectacular, but I got Jay Bruce far later than I thought I might and if Hamilton can play 140 games, I think I'll be OK. Pitching is not a strength either, I didn't draft a starter until about round 7 or 8 and I waited on relievers (I think several teams had 2 before I chose my first.)

Any thoughts? If RMT threads are not de rigeur in here, that's cool - just ignore. TIA.

 
You must draft in a league with numbskulls because thats an awesome team. You got a number of stud hitters (not even sure how its possible). And you waited on pitching yet still got FOUR tier 2 SPs in Bumgarner, Latos, Wilson, and Sanchez.

You may need some more SBs. Perhaps trade Uggla to a team needing some power for a speedster

 
'Matthias said:
This is roto, right? Your hitting is good although shocked that Uggla was the best you could do for a generic IF slot. There wasn't a 1B left over who could have given more punch?Your pitching needs help. There isn't much reason to more than 2 relievers. You'll never know what game they're going to throw and most off-days happen on the same day so the marginal value of an extra one is very low.I would drop one of your bench OFers and pick up a speculative add SP. Trevor Bauer might not be a bad play. It's unsure when/if he'll get called up this year but Collender is getting rocked in spring training so there's about a 3% chance that Bauer starts the year in the bigs and maybe 25-30% chance that he'll be up by mid-May.And re: rate-my-team kinda questions here, don't worry. You're cool. Although for shtick purposes, you should also ask it in the Sharp Pool.
The 1B position dried up quick. I think Ryan Howard was my top rated 1B left when I drafted Uggla in the 7th or 8th round. Konerko, Hosmer, and all the big names were long gone. Plus, since I had Hanley who will have SS and 3B eligibility, I wanted a 2B and SS on the bench so I could shuffle a bit in case of injury. I had Bonifacio lined up in the 20th round, but he went 1 pick before me and all the hitting value where I drafted was in OF (Hence Cespedes, Gardner, and Lind, all of whom I drafted 2-3 rounds below where I thought they'd go.)I also had planned to draft Gio Gonzalez instead of Cespedes, but the same ##### took him one spot ahead of me.
 
You must draft in a league with numbskulls because thats an awesome team. You got a number of stud hitters (not even sure how its possible). And you waited on pitching yet still got FOUR tier 2 SPs in Bumgarner, Latos, Wilson, and Sanchez.You may need some more SBs. Perhaps trade Uggla to a team needing some power for a speedster
They are numbskulls. The stud hitters I got early - Pujols at #2, Ramirez at #19 and Kinsler at #22. That was the foundation of my team. Zimmerman and Hamilton were my 4th/5th rounders - I can only assume Hamilton's drinking binge scared people off as he hung around a long time. McCann/Bruce/Uggla were my 6th/7th/8th rounders - no catchers went off until the 5th, Bruce I think is just undervalued, and Uggla was unnecessary in the 8th.. I should have gone SP there as they guy drafting #1 took Strasburg and Matt Cain on the turn, so I pulled the trigger on Bumgarner in the 9th.I thought between Stubbs, Gardner, and Kinsler I was OK in steals (with Jones and Ramirez providing a few here and there) but as of now, Gardner's not in my starting lineup. You think I need more? There are a few SB guys out there, but they provide little else (Pagan, Revere, Rajai Davis, Ian Desmond.) Actually, I'm surprised Desomnd wasn't drafted and he plays SS, a position I could use a backup at. Would you recommend picking him up and dropping one of my reserve OFs or SPs?
 
'Matthias said:
Actually, I'm surprised Desomnd wasn't drafted and he plays SS, a position I could use a backup at. Would you recommend picking him up and dropping one of my reserve OFs or SPs?
I wouldn't worry about a reserve SS. In games that Hanley isn't playing, just leave it empty. If he gets injured, deal with it then. The league is shallow enough that there should be good options on the wire at all times and your bench/reserve spots are too valuable to have a mediocre player there just to cover yourself for an eventuality where the fix, if it occurs, will look pretty much the same as they do now.
OK, cool - that's kind of the approach I ended up taking during the draft, so good to know that wasn't foolish.
 
Looks like with this group you could have taken a round or 2 to get an elite SP. You're offense is ridulously stacked, I'm not sure how you got them all.

I'm not sure what shadyridr is talking about because you've got a ton of speed.

I want Bumgarner this year too, but as my #2 guy if possible. In that shallow league I don't think you're going to be all that pleased with the likes of Cueto, Hellickson, and Jurrjens. I'm guessing the other teams have a lot more pitching based on how much offense you ended up with.

 
Looks like with this group you could have taken a round or 2 to get an elite SP. You're offense is ridulously stacked, I'm not sure how you got them all.I'm not sure what shadyridr is talking about because you've got a ton of speed.I want Bumgarner this year too, but as my #2 guy if possible. In that shallow league I don't think you're going to be all that pleased with the likes of Cueto, Hellickson, and Jurrjens. I'm guessing the other teams have a lot more pitching based on how much offense you ended up with.
Here's another team that went more pitching heavy earlier on :C- Mauer 1B - Cabrera 2B - M. Young 3B - D. Wright SS - Jeter IF - A-Rod OF - Choo, Beltran, Ethier Util - Konerko BN - Swisher, LoMo, Jemile Weeks, Erick Aybar, Alex RiosSP - Kershaw, Verlander, Hamels, Hanson, Luebke RP - Papelbon, Axford
 
You have too many HR/RBI, a good problem to have. Unfortunately dangling Uggla and McCann might not be too effective because it'll be difficult to find players at those positions that hit for a high avg and steal bases (your weakness). Maybe if you could flip Uggla for a Kendrick? Your best bet is probbaly moving Stubbs for a closer then slide Gardner into his spot. More steals and a better average, plus you add saves and you're not losing any points with the HR/RBI loss because you're already well ahead of the rest of the league. Probably drop Lind for another one of those types too, maybe start with Figgins and see if he starts off hot. If he doesn't someone else will, then drop Figgins. Figgins is both likely available and if he reverts back to career norms helps you in your areas of need - avg and speed. He also does something the other guys you mentioned don't - plays everyday and leads off...for now. But that gives him more upside.

Regardless of the above and given what you did with your offense it's understandable your pitching will be light. That said, you have some arms that belong on waivers in this shallow of a mixed league. Dump Jair and Hell Boy, probably Cueto too because you need to speculate on saves. Two won't cut it and you can replace those guys with comparable options on waivers once you find another closer or two. Even if you're able to trade Stubbs to get a closer a 4th would be good in this sort of league. Holland? Balfour? Either of them out there? Even if they aren't I'd roll with some high K/9 MR's until you find another closer then use the last spot to rotate pitchers in and out. Keep your ratios down early then chase IP's as the season goes on

 
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'Matthias said:
Dump Jair and Hell Boy, probably Cueto too because you need to speculate on saves. Two won't cut it and you can replace those guys with comparable options on waivers once you find another closer or two.
He's in a 10-team league that only has 2 RP spots. At maximum, 20 closers will be starting every day. Speculating on closers shouldn't be a really high priority.
Especially considering he can only start 2 and has 2 with a stranglehold on their spots.
 
You have too many HR/RBI, a good problem to have. Unfortunately dangling Uggla and McCann might not be too effective because it'll be difficult to find players at those positions that hit for a high avg and steal bases (your weakness). Maybe if you could flip Uggla for a Kendrick? Your best bet is probbaly moving Stubbs for a closer then slide Gardner into his spot. More steals and a better average, plus you add saves and you're not losing any points with the HR/RBI loss because you're already well ahead of the rest of the league. Probably drop Lind for another one of those types too, maybe start with Figgins and see if he starts off hot. If he doesn't someone else will, then drop Figgins. Figgins is both likely available and if he reverts back to career norms helps you in your areas of need - avg and speed. He also does something the other guys you mentioned don't - plays everyday and leads off...for now. But that gives him more upside.Regardless of the above and given what you did with your offense it's understandable your pitching will be light. That said, you have some arms that belong on waivers in this shallow of a mixed league. Dump Jair and Hell Boy, probably Cueto too because you need to speculate on saves. Two won't cut it and you can replace those guys with comparable options on waivers once you find another closer or two. Even if you're able to trade Stubbs to get a closer a 4th would be good in this sort of league. Holland? Balfour? Either of them out there? Even if they aren't I'd roll with some high K/9 MR's until you find another closer then use the last spot to rotate pitchers in and out. Keep your ratios down early then chase IP's as the season goes on
Wow, this is a lot to digest, thanks for all the time you took here. Balfour was drafted, Holland was not, but was picked up off waivers this AM, the guy dropped Ubaldo Jimenez.RPs available : Jason Motte, Kenley Jansen (maybe I should dump Marmol for one of these two) Frank Francisco, Javy Guerra.I don't think I want to trade McCann, even though there are a few decent Cs out there (I think only 11 or so were drafted) but I'd be amenable to moving Uggla for an AVG guy. Any potential targets you think I might be able to get for him? Michael Young, Hunter Pence, Pablo Sandoval?
 
Looks like with this group you could have taken a round or 2 to get an elite SP. You're offense is ridulously stacked, I'm not sure how you got them all.I'm not sure what shadyridr is talking about because you've got a ton of speed.
He has gardner on the bench
Stubbs, Hanley, Kinsler.....that's 80-100 SB's right there.
Would you start Stubbs or Gardner? Or both, and bench Hamilton, Jones, or Bruce? I could start both speedsters in the OF/Util spots along with Bruce and Hamilton and use my OF for SBs and generate my HR/RBIs from my IF.
 
Looks like with this group you could have taken a round or 2 to get an elite SP. You're offense is ridulously stacked, I'm not sure how you got them all.I'm not sure what shadyridr is talking about because you've got a ton of speed.
He has gardner on the bench
Stubbs, Hanley, Kinsler.....that's 80-100 SB's right there.
Would you start Stubbs or Gardner? Or both, and bench Hamilton, Jones, or Bruce? I could start both speedsters in the OF/Util spots along with Bruce and Hamilton and use my OF for SBs and generate my HR/RBIs from my IF.
I'm not sure it makes all that much sense to have both Gardner and Stubbs on the same team. I don't bench any of those 3 OF's you mention....especially not Bruce or Hamilton.
 
Looks like with this group you could have taken a round or 2 to get an elite SP. You're offense is ridulously stacked, I'm not sure how you got them all.I'm not sure what shadyridr is talking about because you've got a ton of speed.
He has gardner on the bench
Stubbs, Hanley, Kinsler.....that's 80-100 SB's right there.
Would you start Stubbs or Gardner? Or both, and bench Hamilton, Jones, or Bruce? I could start both speedsters in the OF/Util spots along with Bruce and Hamilton and use my OF for SBs and generate my HR/RBIs from my IF.
I'm not sure it makes all that much sense to have both Gardner and Stubbs on the same team. I don't bench any of those 3 OF's you mention....especially not Bruce or Hamilton.
I drafted them both because they presented value at the time, hoping I could flip one early in the year to someone lagging badly in SBs for a pitcher. My plan at the moment is to start whoever's hotter in the Util spot along with Bruce, Hamilton, and Jones and keep the other as SB insurance until such time as I can get a good deal.
 
You have too many HR/RBI, a good problem to have. Unfortunately dangling Uggla and McCann might not be too effective because it'll be difficult to find players at those positions that hit for a high avg and steal bases (your weakness). Maybe if you could flip Uggla for a Kendrick? Your best bet is probbaly moving Stubbs for a closer then slide Gardner into his spot. More steals and a better average, plus you add saves and you're not losing any points with the HR/RBI loss because you're already well ahead of the rest of the league. Probably drop Lind for another one of those types too, maybe start with Figgins and see if he starts off hot. If he doesn't someone else will, then drop Figgins. Figgins is both likely available and if he reverts back to career norms helps you in your areas of need - avg and speed. He also does something the other guys you mentioned don't - plays everyday and leads off...for now. But that gives him more upside.Regardless of the above and given what you did with your offense it's understandable your pitching will be light. That said, you have some arms that belong on waivers in this shallow of a mixed league. Dump Jair and Hell Boy, probably Cueto too because you need to speculate on saves. Two won't cut it and you can replace those guys with comparable options on waivers once you find another closer or two. Even if you're able to trade Stubbs to get a closer a 4th would be good in this sort of league. Holland? Balfour? Either of them out there? Even if they aren't I'd roll with some high K/9 MR's until you find another closer then use the last spot to rotate pitchers in and out. Keep your ratios down early then chase IP's as the season goes on
Wow, this is a lot to digest, thanks for all the time you took here. Balfour was drafted, Holland was not, but was picked up off waivers this AM, the guy dropped Ubaldo Jimenez.RPs available : Jason Motte, Kenley Jansen (maybe I should dump Marmol for one of these two) Frank Francisco, Javy Guerra.I don't think I want to trade McCann, even though there are a few decent Cs out there (I think only 11 or so were drafted) but I'd be amenable to moving Uggla for an AVG guy. Any potential targets you think I might be able to get for him? Michael Young, Hunter Pence, Pablo Sandoval?
GOGETMOTTENOW!Sorry, I got excited. LaRussa tried to screw him up. Top 10 closer. Get him.I didn't realize you could only start 2 RP's at a time (didn't read the fine print just looked at the roster...whoops). Still, I'd get 3 on the roster, especially given how good he is. Michael Young would actually be a perfect target. Shoot for Panda first, but if that doesn't pan out go after Young.I strongly disagree with those that say SB's are fine. They would be better if Gardner were in the lineup, but it's still just middle of the road. Unlike many other teams you're currently not getting many SB's from your OF. I'm sure you can get a decent pitcher for Stubbs.McCann (< 5 SB)Pujols (5-10 SB)Kinsler (20-30 SB)Han Ram (20-30 SB)Zimm (< 5 SB)Young or Panda (< 5 SB)Hamilton (5-10 SB)Bruce (5-10 SB)Jones (10-15 SB)Gardner (40-50 SB)Figgins and Cespedes on the benchBumgarnerWilsonLatosPitcher received for StubbsAnibalWaldenMarmolMotte2 rotating SP'sI think that would look much better.
 
Also, with CJ Wilson, Latos, Anibal, and Marmol on your team the pitcher you target for Stubbs needs to be a low WHIP guy. In this sort of league it's going to take a sub 1.2 WHIP to finish near the top and there's a lot of WHIP risk in those guys. I'd target Jordan Zimmermann, Beachy, Marcum, Morrow, Luebke, or Dan Hudson.

 
You have too many HR/RBI, a good problem to have. Unfortunately dangling Uggla and McCann might not be too effective because it'll be difficult to find players at those positions that hit for a high avg and steal bases (your weakness). Maybe if you could flip Uggla for a Kendrick? Your best bet is probbaly moving Stubbs for a closer then slide Gardner into his spot. More steals and a better average, plus you add saves and you're not losing any points with the HR/RBI loss because you're already well ahead of the rest of the league. Probably drop Lind for another one of those types too, maybe start with Figgins and see if he starts off hot. If he doesn't someone else will, then drop Figgins. Figgins is both likely available and if he reverts back to career norms helps you in your areas of need - avg and speed. He also does something the other guys you mentioned don't - plays everyday and leads off...for now. But that gives him more upside.Regardless of the above and given what you did with your offense it's understandable your pitching will be light. That said, you have some arms that belong on waivers in this shallow of a mixed league. Dump Jair and Hell Boy, probably Cueto too because you need to speculate on saves. Two won't cut it and you can replace those guys with comparable options on waivers once you find another closer or two. Even if you're able to trade Stubbs to get a closer a 4th would be good in this sort of league. Holland? Balfour? Either of them out there? Even if they aren't I'd roll with some high K/9 MR's until you find another closer then use the last spot to rotate pitchers in and out. Keep your ratios down early then chase IP's as the season goes on
Wow, this is a lot to digest, thanks for all the time you took here. Balfour was drafted, Holland was not, but was picked up off waivers this AM, the guy dropped Ubaldo Jimenez.RPs available : Jason Motte, Kenley Jansen (maybe I should dump Marmol for one of these two) Frank Francisco, Javy Guerra.I don't think I want to trade McCann, even though there are a few decent Cs out there (I think only 11 or so were drafted) but I'd be amenable to moving Uggla for an AVG guy. Any potential targets you think I might be able to get for him? Michael Young, Hunter Pence, Pablo Sandoval?
GOGETMOTTENOW!Sorry, I got excited. LaRussa tried to screw him up. Top 10 closer. Get him.I didn't realize you could only start 2 RP's at a time (didn't read the fine print just looked at the roster...whoops). Still, I'd get 3 on the roster, especially given how good he is. Michael Young would actually be a perfect target. Shoot for Panda first, but if that doesn't pan out go after Young.I strongly disagree with those that say SB's are fine. They would be better if Gardner were in the lineup, but it's still just middle of the road. Unlike many other teams you're currently not getting many SB's from your OF. I'm sure you can get a decent pitcher for Stubbs.McCann (< 5 SB)Pujols (5-10 SB)Kinsler (20-30 SB)Han Ram (20-30 SB)Zimm (< 5 SB)Young or Panda (< 5 SB)Hamilton (5-10 SB)Bruce (5-10 SB)Jones (10-15 SB)Gardner (40-50 SB)Figgins and Cespedes on the benchBumgarnerWilsonLatosPitcher received for StubbsAnibalWaldenMarmolMotte2 rotating SP'sI think that would look much better.
Wow, cant disagree more. He's in a H2H league. Saves should be the least of his concerns. Sure, I'd rather have Motte than Marmol, but its not worth it in a league this shallow to hold onto closers on your bench, especially since in a 1 week H2H league you can easily win SVs for the week with 1 closer versus two. And in no way should he trade any hitting for SP. His entire bench should be hitters and he plays whoever is hot/has a good matchup. He should keep Bumgarner, Wilson and Latos. He should stream with the other two spots. See if you can trade for any hitter at all for those pitchers. Also, you should devalue average a ton. Too much variance in average from week to week for even the best hitters to give it too much value. You want ot avoid average dark holes in general, but you do have plenty of high average guys to balance things out. Basically, you were smart to go very heavy on offense in the draft. Now go get more.
 
Decent - very competitive team - but you lack in speed . Also it concerns me that 3 of your SPs pitch in bandboxes. I have gone down the 2 closer route and the 3 closer route. You need to play that by ear - just finsihing top 5 in saves is okay but not at the expense of Ks and raios. I would almost be tempted to stiock up on all SPs and not start ANY RPs. Punt the Save category and move on.

 
'MAC_32 said:
Also, with CJ Wilson, Latos, Anibal, and Marmol on your team the pitcher you target for Stubbs needs to be a low WHIP guy. In this sort of league it's going to take a sub 1.2 WHIP to finish near the top and there's a lot of WHIP risk in those guys. I'd target Jordan Zimmermann, Beachy, Marcum, Morrow, Luebke, or Dan Hudson.
That was why I drafted Hellickson and Jurrjens, both are sub 1.2 WHIP guys. I missed on Beachy by 1 pick (it was a trend)I'll start looking into moving Stubbs or Gardner for a SP now...
 
'dparker713 said:
'MAC_32 said:
'Evilgrin 72 said:
You have too many HR/RBI, a good problem to have. Unfortunately dangling Uggla and McCann might not be too effective because it'll be difficult to find players at those positions that hit for a high avg and steal bases (your weakness). Maybe if you could flip Uggla for a Kendrick? Your best bet is probbaly moving Stubbs for a closer then slide Gardner into his spot. More steals and a better average, plus you add saves and you're not losing any points with the HR/RBI loss because you're already well ahead of the rest of the league. Probably drop Lind for another one of those types too, maybe start with Figgins and see if he starts off hot. If he doesn't someone else will, then drop Figgins. Figgins is both likely available and if he reverts back to career norms helps you in your areas of need - avg and speed. He also does something the other guys you mentioned don't - plays everyday and leads off...for now. But that gives him more upside.Regardless of the above and given what you did with your offense it's understandable your pitching will be light. That said, you have some arms that belong on waivers in this shallow of a mixed league. Dump Jair and Hell Boy, probably Cueto too because you need to speculate on saves. Two won't cut it and you can replace those guys with comparable options on waivers once you find another closer or two. Even if you're able to trade Stubbs to get a closer a 4th would be good in this sort of league. Holland? Balfour? Either of them out there? Even if they aren't I'd roll with some high K/9 MR's until you find another closer then use the last spot to rotate pitchers in and out. Keep your ratios down early then chase IP's as the season goes on
Wow, this is a lot to digest, thanks for all the time you took here. Balfour was drafted, Holland was not, but was picked up off waivers this AM, the guy dropped Ubaldo Jimenez.RPs available : Jason Motte, Kenley Jansen (maybe I should dump Marmol for one of these two) Frank Francisco, Javy Guerra.I don't think I want to trade McCann, even though there are a few decent Cs out there (I think only 11 or so were drafted) but I'd be amenable to moving Uggla for an AVG guy. Any potential targets you think I might be able to get for him? Michael Young, Hunter Pence, Pablo Sandoval?
GOGETMOTTENOW!Sorry, I got excited. LaRussa tried to screw him up. Top 10 closer. Get him.I didn't realize you could only start 2 RP's at a time (didn't read the fine print just looked at the roster...whoops). Still, I'd get 3 on the roster, especially given how good he is. Michael Young would actually be a perfect target. Shoot for Panda first, but if that doesn't pan out go after Young.I strongly disagree with those that say SB's are fine. They would be better if Gardner were in the lineup, but it's still just middle of the road. Unlike many other teams you're currently not getting many SB's from your OF. I'm sure you can get a decent pitcher for Stubbs.McCann (< 5 SB)Pujols (5-10 SB)Kinsler (20-30 SB)Han Ram (20-30 SB)Zimm (< 5 SB)Young or Panda (< 5 SB)Hamilton (5-10 SB)Bruce (5-10 SB)Jones (10-15 SB)Gardner (40-50 SB)Figgins and Cespedes on the benchBumgarnerWilsonLatosPitcher received for StubbsAnibalWaldenMarmolMotte2 rotating SP'sI think that would look much better.
Wow, cant disagree more. He's in a H2H league. Saves should be the least of his concerns. Sure, I'd rather have Motte than Marmol, but its not worth it in a league this shallow to hold onto closers on your bench, especially since in a 1 week H2H league you can easily win SVs for the week with 1 closer versus two. And in no way should he trade any hitting for SP. His entire bench should be hitters and he plays whoever is hot/has a good matchup. He should keep Bumgarner, Wilson and Latos. He should stream with the other two spots. See if you can trade for any hitter at all for those pitchers. Also, you should devalue average a ton. Too much variance in average from week to week for even the best hitters to give it too much value. You want ot avoid average dark holes in general, but you do have plenty of high average guys to balance things out. Basically, you were smart to go very heavy on offense in the draft. Now go get more.
Thanks. I basically said to hell with average and saves and just went after W, K, HR, and RBI for the most part (with a couple SB guys thrown in, obviously.)I'm going to drop Marmol for Motte right now.
 
Decent - very competitive team - but you lack in speed . Also it concerns me that 3 of your SPs pitch in bandboxes. I have gone down the 2 closer route and the 3 closer route. You need to play that by ear - just finsihing top 5 in saves is okay but not at the expense of Ks and raios. I would almost be tempted to stiock up on all SPs and not start ANY RPs. Punt the Save category and move on.
2 roster/starting spots are RP only.
 
'MAC_32 said:
Also, with CJ Wilson, Latos, Anibal, and Marmol on your team the pitcher you target for Stubbs needs to be a low WHIP guy. In this sort of league it's going to take a sub 1.2 WHIP to finish near the top and there's a lot of WHIP risk in those guys. I'd target Jordan Zimmermann, Beachy, Marcum, Morrow, Luebke, or Dan Hudson.
That was why I drafted Hellickson and Jurrjens, both are sub 1.2 WHIP guys. I missed on Beachy by 1 pick (it was a trend)I'll start looking into moving Stubbs or Gardner for a SP now...
Noted on Hell Boy, just wary he regresses everywhere else. I just don't trust Jair, his good years seem to be more luck based than anything else and he's even more fragile than most pitchers. He's much closer to a 1.3 WHIP arm than sub 1.2.
 
'dparker713 said:
'MAC_32 said:
'Evilgrin 72 said:
You have too many HR/RBI, a good problem to have. Unfortunately dangling Uggla and McCann might not be too effective because it'll be difficult to find players at those positions that hit for a high avg and steal bases (your weakness). Maybe if you could flip Uggla for a Kendrick? Your best bet is probbaly moving Stubbs for a closer then slide Gardner into his spot. More steals and a better average, plus you add saves and you're not losing any points with the HR/RBI loss because you're already well ahead of the rest of the league. Probably drop Lind for another one of those types too, maybe start with Figgins and see if he starts off hot. If he doesn't someone else will, then drop Figgins. Figgins is both likely available and if he reverts back to career norms helps you in your areas of need - avg and speed. He also does something the other guys you mentioned don't - plays everyday and leads off...for now. But that gives him more upside.Regardless of the above and given what you did with your offense it's understandable your pitching will be light. That said, you have some arms that belong on waivers in this shallow of a mixed league. Dump Jair and Hell Boy, probably Cueto too because you need to speculate on saves. Two won't cut it and you can replace those guys with comparable options on waivers once you find another closer or two. Even if you're able to trade Stubbs to get a closer a 4th would be good in this sort of league. Holland? Balfour? Either of them out there? Even if they aren't I'd roll with some high K/9 MR's until you find another closer then use the last spot to rotate pitchers in and out. Keep your ratios down early then chase IP's as the season goes on
Wow, this is a lot to digest, thanks for all the time you took here. Balfour was drafted, Holland was not, but was picked up off waivers this AM, the guy dropped Ubaldo Jimenez.RPs available : Jason Motte, Kenley Jansen (maybe I should dump Marmol for one of these two) Frank Francisco, Javy Guerra.I don't think I want to trade McCann, even though there are a few decent Cs out there (I think only 11 or so were drafted) but I'd be amenable to moving Uggla for an AVG guy. Any potential targets you think I might be able to get for him? Michael Young, Hunter Pence, Pablo Sandoval?
GOGETMOTTENOW!Sorry, I got excited. LaRussa tried to screw him up. Top 10 closer. Get him.I didn't realize you could only start 2 RP's at a time (didn't read the fine print just looked at the roster...whoops). Still, I'd get 3 on the roster, especially given how good he is. Michael Young would actually be a perfect target. Shoot for Panda first, but if that doesn't pan out go after Young.I strongly disagree with those that say SB's are fine. They would be better if Gardner were in the lineup, but it's still just middle of the road. Unlike many other teams you're currently not getting many SB's from your OF. I'm sure you can get a decent pitcher for Stubbs.McCann (< 5 SB)Pujols (5-10 SB)Kinsler (20-30 SB)Han Ram (20-30 SB)Zimm (< 5 SB)Young or Panda (< 5 SB)Hamilton (5-10 SB)Bruce (5-10 SB)Jones (10-15 SB)Gardner (40-50 SB)Figgins and Cespedes on the benchBumgarnerWilsonLatosPitcher received for StubbsAnibalWaldenMarmolMotte2 rotating SP'sI think that would look much better.
Wow, cant disagree more. He's in a H2H league. Saves should be the least of his concerns. Sure, I'd rather have Motte than Marmol, but its not worth it in a league this shallow to hold onto closers on your bench, especially since in a 1 week H2H league you can easily win SVs for the week with 1 closer versus two. And in no way should he trade any hitting for SP. His entire bench should be hitters and he plays whoever is hot/has a good matchup. He should keep Bumgarner, Wilson and Latos. He should stream with the other two spots. See if you can trade for any hitter at all for those pitchers. Also, you should devalue average a ton. Too much variance in average from week to week for even the best hitters to give it too much value. You want ot avoid average dark holes in general, but you do have plenty of high average guys to balance things out. Basically, you were smart to go very heavy on offense in the draft. Now go get more.
My plan basically was to keep Bumgarner, Latos, Wilson, and Sanchez entrenched and just rotate Cueto, Hellickson, and Jurrjens through that 5th spot. A lot of teams are carrying 3-4 extra SPs on their bench that they'll cycle through the week, so just starting 5 SPs gives you a distinct disadvantage in W and K, no?
 
My plan basically was to keep Bumgarner, Latos, Wilson, and Sanchez entrenched and just rotate Cueto, Hellickson, and Jurrjens through that 5th spot. A lot of teams are carrying 3-4 extra SPs on their bench that they'll cycle through the week, so just starting 5 SPs gives you a distinct disadvantage in W and K, no?
Im advocating picking up 2 new SPs every day. Start them. Drop them for the next days starters. Repeat about 180 times.
 
'MAC_32 said:
'Evilgrin 72 said:
You have too many HR/RBI, a good problem to have. Unfortunately dangling Uggla and McCann might not be too effective because it'll be difficult to find players at those positions that hit for a high avg and steal bases (your weakness). Maybe if you could flip Uggla for a Kendrick? Your best bet is probbaly moving Stubbs for a closer then slide Gardner into his spot. More steals and a better average, plus you add saves and you're not losing any points with the HR/RBI loss because you're already well ahead of the rest of the league. Probably drop Lind for another one of those types too, maybe start with Figgins and see if he starts off hot. If he doesn't someone else will, then drop Figgins. Figgins is both likely available and if he reverts back to career norms helps you in your areas of need - avg and speed. He also does something the other guys you mentioned don't - plays everyday and leads off...for now. But that gives him more upside.

Regardless of the above and given what you did with your offense it's understandable your pitching will be light. That said, you have some arms that belong on waivers in this shallow of a mixed league. Dump Jair and Hell Boy, probably Cueto too because you need to speculate on saves. Two won't cut it and you can replace those guys with comparable options on waivers once you find another closer or two. Even if you're able to trade Stubbs to get a closer a 4th would be good in this sort of league. Holland? Balfour? Either of them out there? Even if they aren't I'd roll with some high K/9 MR's until you find another closer then use the last spot to rotate pitchers in and out. Keep your ratios down early then chase IP's as the season goes on
Wow, this is a lot to digest, thanks for all the time you took here. Balfour was drafted, Holland was not, but was picked up off waivers this AM, the guy dropped Ubaldo Jimenez.RPs available : Jason Motte, Kenley Jansen (maybe I should dump Marmol for one of these two) Frank Francisco, Javy Guerra.

I don't think I want to trade McCann, even though there are a few decent Cs out there (I think only 11 or so were drafted) but I'd be amenable to moving Uggla for an AVG guy. Any potential targets you think I might be able to get for him? Michael Young, Hunter Pence, Pablo Sandoval?
GOGETMOTTENOW!Sorry, I got excited. LaRussa tried to screw him up. Top 10 closer. Get him.

I didn't realize you could only start 2 RP's at a time (didn't read the fine print just looked at the roster...whoops). Still, I'd get 3 on the roster, especially given how good he is.

Michael Young would actually be a perfect target. Shoot for Panda first, but if that doesn't pan out go after Young.

I strongly disagree with those that say SB's are fine. They would be better if Gardner were in the lineup, but it's still just middle of the road. Unlike many other teams you're currently not getting many SB's from your OF. I'm sure you can get a decent pitcher for Stubbs.

McCann (< 5 SB)

Pujols (5-10 SB)

Kinsler (20-30 SB)

Han Ram (20-30 SB)

Zimm (< 5 SB)

Young or Panda (< 5 SB)

Hamilton (5-10 SB)

Bruce (5-10 SB)

Jones (10-15 SB)

Gardner (40-50 SB)

Figgins and Cespedes on the bench

Bumgarner

Wilson

Latos

Pitcher received for Stubbs

Anibal

Walden

Marmol

Motte

2 rotating SP's

I think that would look much better.
not sure i agree with that. he's already said a player like ian desmond is on the waiver wire. so are other good players then. and probably, so are a couple of decent pitchers. i'd take a look at the WW first unless you get a good offer for stubbs that really helps your team.

 
'MAC_32 said:
Also, with CJ Wilson, Latos, Anibal, and Marmol on your team the pitcher you target for Stubbs needs to be a low WHIP guy. In this sort of league it's going to take a sub 1.2 WHIP to finish near the top and there's a lot of WHIP risk in those guys. I'd target Jordan Zimmermann, Beachy, Marcum, Morrow, Luebke, or Dan Hudson.
That was why I drafted Hellickson and Jurrjens, both are sub 1.2 WHIP guys. I missed on Beachy by 1 pick (it was a trend)I'll start looking into moving Stubbs or Gardner for a SP now...
Noted on Hell Boy, just wary he regresses everywhere else. I just don't trust Jair, his good years seem to be more luck based than anything else and he's even more fragile than most pitchers. He's much closer to a 1.3 WHIP arm than sub 1.2.
Agreed. They were round 20-21 flyers, if they start off the year sucking the place out, I'll dump 'em.
 
My plan basically was to keep Bumgarner, Latos, Wilson, and Sanchez entrenched and just rotate Cueto, Hellickson, and Jurrjens through that 5th spot. A lot of teams are carrying 3-4 extra SPs on their bench that they'll cycle through the week, so just starting 5 SPs gives you a distinct disadvantage in W and K, no?
Im advocating picking up 2 new SPs every day. Start them. Drop them for the next days starters. Repeat about 180 times.
Ahhh. I think there are transaction limits that prevent you from doing that. 30 per season, IIRC.
 
'MAC_32 said:
'Evilgrin 72 said:
You have too many HR/RBI, a good problem to have. Unfortunately dangling Uggla and McCann might not be too effective because it'll be difficult to find players at those positions that hit for a high avg and steal bases (your weakness). Maybe if you could flip Uggla for a Kendrick? Your best bet is probbaly moving Stubbs for a closer then slide Gardner into his spot. More steals and a better average, plus you add saves and you're not losing any points with the HR/RBI loss because you're already well ahead of the rest of the league. Probably drop Lind for another one of those types too, maybe start with Figgins and see if he starts off hot. If he doesn't someone else will, then drop Figgins. Figgins is both likely available and if he reverts back to career norms helps you in your areas of need - avg and speed. He also does something the other guys you mentioned don't - plays everyday and leads off...for now. But that gives him more upside.

Regardless of the above and given what you did with your offense it's understandable your pitching will be light. That said, you have some arms that belong on waivers in this shallow of a mixed league. Dump Jair and Hell Boy, probably Cueto too because you need to speculate on saves. Two won't cut it and you can replace those guys with comparable options on waivers once you find another closer or two. Even if you're able to trade Stubbs to get a closer a 4th would be good in this sort of league. Holland? Balfour? Either of them out there? Even if they aren't I'd roll with some high K/9 MR's until you find another closer then use the last spot to rotate pitchers in and out. Keep your ratios down early then chase IP's as the season goes on
Wow, this is a lot to digest, thanks for all the time you took here. Balfour was drafted, Holland was not, but was picked up off waivers this AM, the guy dropped Ubaldo Jimenez.RPs available : Jason Motte, Kenley Jansen (maybe I should dump Marmol for one of these two) Frank Francisco, Javy Guerra.

I don't think I want to trade McCann, even though there are a few decent Cs out there (I think only 11 or so were drafted) but I'd be amenable to moving Uggla for an AVG guy. Any potential targets you think I might be able to get for him? Michael Young, Hunter Pence, Pablo Sandoval?
GOGETMOTTENOW!Sorry, I got excited. LaRussa tried to screw him up. Top 10 closer. Get him.

I didn't realize you could only start 2 RP's at a time (didn't read the fine print just looked at the roster...whoops). Still, I'd get 3 on the roster, especially given how good he is.

Michael Young would actually be a perfect target. Shoot for Panda first, but if that doesn't pan out go after Young.

I strongly disagree with those that say SB's are fine. They would be better if Gardner were in the lineup, but it's still just middle of the road. Unlike many other teams you're currently not getting many SB's from your OF. I'm sure you can get a decent pitcher for Stubbs.

McCann (< 5 SB)

Pujols (5-10 SB)

Kinsler (20-30 SB)

Han Ram (20-30 SB)

Zimm (< 5 SB)

Young or Panda (< 5 SB)

Hamilton (5-10 SB)

Bruce (5-10 SB)

Jones (10-15 SB)

Gardner (40-50 SB)

Figgins and Cespedes on the bench

Bumgarner

Wilson

Latos

Pitcher received for Stubbs

Anibal

Walden

Marmol

Motte

2 rotating SP's

I think that would look much better.
not sure i agree with that. he's already said a player like ian desmond is on the waiver wire. so are other good players then. and probably, so are a couple of decent pitchers. i'd take a look at the WW first unless you get a good offer for stubbs that really helps your team.
Ubaldo Jimenez was dropped, but then just claimed, dropping Dexter Fowler... other starters available on waivers are :Brandon Morrow (just dropped for Liriano moments ago)

Huroki Kuroda

Ryan Dempster

Tim Hudson

Doug Fister

Clay Buchholz

Wandy Rodriguez

Colby Lewis

Vance Worley

I think only something like 60 SPs were drafted and I had a number of these inside my top 50, so there's definitely some talent out there I can acquire.

 
Id add Morrow for Jurjens.

I dont get the hate for Cueto :shrug: Seems like a great back of the rotation guy. And sure Hell Boy's peripheral's sucked last year and he had a very lucky year but its not like he wasnt a highly ranked prospect. He can turn things around.

 
'Matthias said:
Your hitting is good although shocked that Uggla was the best you could do for a generic IF slot. There wasn't a 1B left over who could have given more punch?
Pujols, Fielder, Teixeira. /list
 
Although that might be a little pessimistic this year, with Kendrys Morales seemingly available on so many waiver wires. He seems to be hitting and running fine on that ankle again, and if he can, will pretty much bat cleanup behind Albert all year.

That happens, it's like a free .300/30/120.

 
Although that might be a little pessimistic this year, with Kendrys Morales seemingly available on so many waiver wires. He seems to be hitting and running fine on that ankle again, and if he can, will pretty much bat cleanup behind Albert all year.That happens, it's like a free .300/30/120.
Morales is drafted in this league.I'm torn on Morrow vs. Jurrjens. As a Braves fan, I might be overly optimistic, but I've seen this guy be VERY effective, even though he doesn't strike anyone out. He was lights out last year for half the year until he got hurt. If he doesn't look right in his first start or two, I'll dump him, but I want to see what he does if/when he regains full confidence in his injured knee.
 
Although that might be a little pessimistic this year, with Kendrys Morales seemingly available on so many waiver wires. He seems to be hitting and running fine on that ankle again, and if he can, will pretty much bat cleanup behind Albert all year.That happens, it's like a free .300/30/120.
Morales is drafted in this league.I'm torn on Morrow vs. Jurrjens. As a Braves fan, I might be overly optimistic, but I've seen this guy be VERY effective, even though he doesn't strike anyone out. He was lights out last year for half the year until he got hurt. If he doesn't look right in his first start or two, I'll dump him, but I want to see what he does if/when he regains full confidence in his injured knee.
When in doubt, avoid the AL East arm.
 
Although that might be a little pessimistic this year, with Kendrys Morales seemingly available on so many waiver wires. He seems to be hitting and running fine on that ankle again, and if he can, will pretty much bat cleanup behind Albert all year.That happens, it's like a free .300/30/120.
Morales is drafted in this league.I'm torn on Morrow vs. Jurrjens. As a Braves fan, I might be overly optimistic, but I've seen this guy be VERY effective, even though he doesn't strike anyone out. He was lights out last year for half the year until he got hurt. If he doesn't look right in his first start or two, I'll dump him, but I want to see what he does if/when he regains full confidence in his injured knee.
When in doubt, avoid the AL East arm.
I typically avoid the AL period when it comes to pitching. Last year, I actually had a 9-man squad that were all NLers. This year, I have Hellickson, Wilson, and Walden and 6 NLers.
 
My team (C, 1B, 2B, SS, 3B, 3 OF, 2 UTL, 2 SP, 2 RP, 4 P). 12 team league with yahoo scoring:

Joey Votto

Evan Longoria

Hanley Ramirez

Andrew McCutchen

Jon Lester

Yovani Gallardo

Dan Uggla

Matt Moore

Desmond Jennings

Ricky Romero

Max Scherzer

Adam Jones

Jamie Garcia

Chase Utley

Derek Holland

Mark Reynolds

Paul Goldschmidt

Yadier Molina

Adam Dunn

Carlos Lee

Justin Masterson

Alex Rios

Ricky Nolasco

I'm obviously punting saves, due to the fact they went like crazy, and possibly punting average.

 
rascal-

If that is a h2h league you should make the playoffs. You have a lot of good hitters. If you have to you could trade some for pitchers.

******

Had my keeper league auction draft today.

12 teams

23-man rosters

$260 to spend

5x5 defaults

Head-to-head

C, 1B, 2B, SS, 3B, OF, OF, OF, UTIL

SP, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, P

Entered draft with these 5 keepers-

Daniel Hudson- $8

Logan Morrison-1

Howie Kendrick- 1

Ben Zobrist- 6

Eric Hosmer- 8

Drafted-

Joey Votto

Miguel Montero

Jose Reyes

Cameron Maybin

Drew Stubbs

Nick Markakis

Josh Hamilton

Chris Young (Ari)

Erick Aybar

Mark Reynolds

Dexter Fowler

Edinson Volquez

Tim Stauffer

Javy Guerra

Andrew Bailey

Drew Storen

Mat Latos

I do not have enough pitchers at this time but am loaded with outfielders. This was by design. Last year my leading home run hitter was Vernon Wells with 12. I tried to make sure my team will hit HRs this year.

Pitching never worries me. I always find good pitchers on the wire every year.

Which of my hitters should I look to move? We have a very soft cap and it is not even enforced for two months, so dollar amounts at this time are not a big issue.

Should I try to package Kendrick or Zobrist plus one of my bench OFers for a really good pitcher?

Should I move Reyes in a deal and go with Aybar as my SS?

 

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