Ray Rice will be the #1 fantasy RB of 2011 (1 Viewer)

[JHuber77]

Don't give us that crap. The mods know damn well what LHUCKS is. You guys want to allow it to continue for whatever reason. He baits people into his threads under the guise of discussion then reports folks who rightfully call him out.

Uhh...I haven't reported a person in months. Not sure where you're getting your data big fella. ETA: calling the staff dense and telling them to shutup probably isn't going to get you very far around here.

Just stop already, although the premise of your discussion started well, its not ending that way. Your like the kid who always has to get the last word in. (the I know you are but what am I type kid) I am not saying let someone attack you personally but just because everyone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean you need to throw in snide comments just to get your point across. Back to the point...I agree that Rice will have a great year as well (Top 5 with the addition of Vonta and the subtractions of McGahee and McClain). Tomlinson, James, Sanders and Smith were the last ones to repeat the rushing title. Good chances are that it will be someone else other than Foster this year. As for someone stretching the field, Floyd would make a great addition. Torrey Smith may also be that guy. Who knows. I do know this though, if Rice is your #1 RB, draft him that way and don't give everyone else grief because you don't agree with them.

 

[LHUCKS]

I agree that Rice will have a great year as well (Top 5 with the addition of Vonta and the subtractions of McGahee and McClain). Tomlinson, James, Sanders and Smith were the last ones to repeat the rushing title. Good chances are that it will be someone else other than Foster this year. As for someone stretching the field, Floyd would make a great addition. Torrey Smith may also be that guy.

I doubt seriously Harbaugh and company would cut Mason/Heap if they thought it would harm the running game and/or offense.The Ravens are a well run organization...they know what they're doing.

 

[sho nuff]

The addition of Leach + McClain in KC now that could hurt Charles...Rice as #1 is more logical now than before (and it was not totally far fetched to begin with anyway).

Do you find it interesting that not a single ff writer has ranked Rice #1 this year(that I'm aware of.)

Sure...but they have their reasons.Not sure Id rank him #1 just yet...but there is more logic to it now that this has panned out than there was before.

 

[Sideline Warrior]

The addition of Leach + McClain in KC now that could hurt Charles...Rice as #1 is more logical now than before (and it was not totally far fetched to begin with anyway).

Do you find it interesting that not a single ff writer has ranked Rice #1 this year(that I'm aware of.)

Sure...but they have their reasons.Not sure Id rank him #1 just yet...but there is more logic to it now that this has panned out than there was before.

I wouldnt rank him there either at #1...Rice could be next season if he stays healthy and has a productive season...he wont get that with his schedule though.

 

[Ilov80s]

Agreed. I have some serious doubts about this Ravens offense. The offensive line doesn't look very good to me (Birk hurt, Gaither gone, Grubbs early appearance on the PUP list) and the Ravens have only 1 proven WR or TE to take the heat off Rice.

Everything I've read says the line will be intact by the beginning of the season. As for losing Mason and Heap, I don't really think that changes things for Rice much.

I don't know much about their o-line. Injuries aside, can you give me some info on the starting 5 and why it could lead the way for a #1 fantasy back?http://bleacherreport.com/articles/791702-baltimore-ravens-training-camp-observations-from-wednesdays-practice

Pressure on the quarterback consistently caused incompletions, interceptions, fumbles and sacks. The center of the offensive line was getting man-handled...There were very few running plays that were practiced, but when the offense tried to run, the offensive line had very little push versus the defensive line.

 

[BassNBrew]

The top 10 guys are usually the ones that stay the healthiest for 16 games, whether that's the concensus top 10 or a backup. Tough to predict that. All you can really predict is talent and touch potential.

FalseIf you don't believe me, you get Gore and I get Rice....1000 bucks says Rice loses fewer quarters to injury than Gore??

Want some of that action??

I don't think so.

This is a LHUCKS post in another thread..

Frank Gore - this kids is a beast. Do yourself a favor and look at his game log. Gore produced those stats on an awful offense. Easily the most underrated back in the league and for whatever reason that is translating to his fantasy value. Get this guy in the late first and don't be surprised if he's the best pick in that round. And spare me the injury risk argument. He's 100 percent and ready to go. Harbaugh is already calling him his workhorse. You do the math...it's pretty straightforward.

I guess Hucks got tired of being so wrong around here that he's decided to take both sides of an argument so he'll be right half the time.

So now we got Gore and Rice being the best pick of round one and Gore the beastly workhorse not being an injury risk who will miss more quarters than Rice.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Agreed. I have some serious doubts about this Ravens offense. The offensive line doesn't look very good to me (Birk hurt, Gaither gone, Grubbs early appearance on the PUP list) and the Ravens have only 1 proven WR or TE to take the heat off Rice.

Everything I've read says the line will be intact by the beginning of the season. As for losing Mason and Heap, I don't really think that changes things for Rice much.

I don't know much about their o-line. Injuries aside, can you give me some info on the starting 5 and why it could lead the way for a #1 fantasy back?http://bleacherreport.com/articles/791702-baltimore-ravens-training-camp-observations-from-wednesdays-practice

Pressure on the quarterback consistently caused incompletions, interceptions, fumbles and sacks. The center of the offensive line was getting man-handled...There were very few running plays that were practiced, but when the offense tried to run, the offensive line had very little push versus the defensive line.

Well the Ravens Dline is elite, and they are missing their top 2 starting Centers, correct? Defense is always ahead of Offense always

 

[LHUCKS]

I guess Hucks got tired of being so wrong around here that he's decided to take both sides of an argument so he'll be right half the time.So now we got Gore and Rice being the best pick of round one and Gore the beastly workhorse not being an injury risk who will miss more quarters than Rice.

Gore is more of an injury risk than Rice...I don't see the problem here.Also, Gore is going in round 2 via ADP.Please don't piss in the pool Bass.

 

[LHUCKS]

Well the Ravens Dline is elite, and they are missing their top 2 starting Centers, correct? Defense is always ahead of Offense always

 

[Ilov80s]

Agreed. I have some serious doubts about this Ravens offense. The offensive line doesn't look very good to me (Birk hurt, Gaither gone, Grubbs early appearance on the PUP list) and the Ravens have only 1 proven WR or TE to take the heat off Rice.

Everything I've read says the line will be intact by the beginning of the season. As for losing Mason and Heap, I don't really think that changes things for Rice much.

I don't know much about their o-line. Injuries aside, can you give me some info on the starting 5 and why it could lead the way for a #1 fantasy back?http://bleacherrepor...esdays-practice

Pressure on the quarterback consistently caused incompletions, interceptions, fumbles and sacks. The center of the offensive line was getting man-handled...There were very few running plays that were practiced, but when the offense tried to run, the offensive line had very little push versus the defensive line.

Well the Ravens Dline is elite, and they are missing their top 2 starting Centers, correct?

Defense is always ahead of Offense always

and their best guard just got off PUP, they have a rookie at RT, and Oher hasn't really impressed at LT. This was kind of my point about being concerned about the o-line.

 

[Ilov80s]

I agree that Rice will have a great year as well (Top 5 with the addition of Vonta and the subtractions of McGahee and McClain). Tomlinson, James, Sanders and Smith were the last ones to repeat the rushing title. Good chances are that it will be someone else other than Foster this year. As for someone stretching the field, Floyd would make a great addition. Torrey Smith may also be that guy.

I doubt seriously Harbaugh and company would cut Mason/Heap if they thought it would harm the running game and/or offense.The Ravens are a well run organization...they know what they're doing.

You aren't talking about the Ravens running game remaining unharmed, you are talking about it improving a great deal. Ravens were 14th in total yards last year and 25th in ypc last year, why are they going to be so much better this year?

 

[LHUCKS]

You aren't talking about the Ravens running game remaining unharmed, you are talking about it improving a great deal.

Um no...that's not what I'm talking about.I'm talking about Rices' numbers improving enough to make him the #1 fantasy RB. That is much different than what you state above.

 

[solorca]

Typically I like a top 3 pick, just to pick up the best RB I can get. This year, I'm kind of hoping for number 5 or 6, because I think that in my league I will be able to steal Ray Rice at that point (I see Foster, Peterson, Johnson, and Charles going ahead of him...maybe Vick as well, if someone jumps too high for him). I may have a tough time deciding between him or Arian Foster as my top pick for the year, but I wouldn't take anyone else above those two...especially in a PPR.

I got Rice at #4 last year, and was slightly disappointed with his results, but he certainly did enough to warrant the pick for me. Without Mcgahee, I think he's about as much of a lock this season as you can have in fantasy football.

 

[matttyl]

The addition of Leach + McClain in KC now that could hurt Charles...Rice as #1 is more logical now than before (and it was not totally far fetched to begin with anyway).

Do you find it interesting that not a single ff writer has ranked Rice #1 this year(that I'm aware of.)

Sure...but they have their reasons.Not sure Id rank him #1 just yet...but there is more logic to it now that this has panned out than there was before.

I wouldnt rank him there either at #1...Rice could be next season if he stays healthy and has a productive season...he wont get that with his schedule though.

I'd like to argue that last point a little bit. Last year he was just shy of 1,800 yards from scrimmage with an out of division schedule which included the AFC East (Jets, Pats, Fins and Bills) and the NFC South (Panthers, Saints, TB and Falcons). Included in those 8 games were the #3, #7, #10, #11 rushing defenses and the #3, #4, and #6 overall defenses. This year swap out those 8 games with ones against the AFC South (Indy, Jax, Tenn, and Houston) and the NFC West (Arizona, SF, StL, and Arizona). There wasn't a single top 5 rushing defense and only 1 in the top half of rushing defenses in either of those divisions last year!! That's right, just one rushing defense in those 8 games that was top 16 in the league last year! There also isn't a single top 12 defense in yards given up last year in there, but there are 5 of the bottom 10! Technically, a RB couldn't find 2 easier divisions to make a schedule with. Bottom line, he's got a vastly easier schedule than he did last year, and now get to have it without Willis (or McClain) and with a better blocking fullback.

 

[BassNBrew]

I guess Hucks got tired of being so wrong around here that he's decided to take both sides of an argument so he'll be right half the time.

So now we got Gore and Rice being the best pick of round one and Gore the beastly workhorse not being an injury risk who will miss more quarters than Rice.

Gore is more of an injury risk than Rice...I don't see the problem here.Also, Gore is going in round 2 via ADP.

Please don't piss in the pool Bass.

Practice what you preach Huck.

 

[Ilov80s]

You aren't talking about the Ravens running game remaining unharmed, you are talking about it improving a great deal.

Um no...that's not what I'm talking about.I'm talking about Rices' numbers improving enough to make him the #1 fantasy RB. That is much different than what you state above.

For Rice to be the #1 RB, production needs to go up or touches need to go up. He was already near the top in touches last year, so I just don't see where this big increase comes from. Looking back the last few years at the points scored in ppr leagues by the #1 RB indicates that Rice will likely need at least 350 points to finish #1. In other words, about 75 points more than he scored last year. So lets say he gets all 5 TDs McGahee scored last year AND gets 400 touches @ 5 yards per touch with 70 receptions. That puts him at 2000 total yards, 70 receptions and 11 TDs or 336 points which in every year save for 2008 would NOT have been good enough to be the #1 RB.So your position is either: Rice gets well over 400 touches or the Baltimore run game is significantly improved this year.

 

[Bamac]

You aren't talking about the Ravens running game remaining unharmed, you are talking about it improving a great deal.

Um no...that's not what I'm talking about.I'm talking about Rices' numbers improving enough to make him the #1 fantasy RB. That is much different than what you state above.

For Rice to be the #1 RB, production needs to go up or touches need to go up. He was already near the top in touches last year, so I just don't see where this big increase comes from. Looking back the last few years at the points scored in ppr leagues by the #1 RB indicates that Rice will likely need at least 350 points to finish #1. In other words, about 75 points more than he scored last year. So lets say he gets all 5 TDs McGahee scored last year AND gets 400 touches @ 5 yards per touch with 70 receptions. That puts him at 2000 total yards, 70 receptions and 11 TDs or 336 points which in every year save for 2008 would NOT have been good enough to be the #1 RB.

And we're done here.

 

[LHUCKS]

You aren't talking about the Ravens running game remaining unharmed, you are talking about it improving a great deal.

Um no...that's not what I'm talking about.I'm talking about Rices' numbers improving enough to make him the #1 fantasy RB. That is much different than what you state above.

For Rice to be the #1 RB, production needs to go up or touches need to go up. He was already near the top in touches last year, so I just don't see where this big increase comes from. Looking back the last few years at the points scored in ppr leagues by the #1 RB indicates that Rice will likely need at least 350 points to finish #1. In other words, about 75 points more than he scored last year. So lets say he gets all 5 TDs McGahee scored last year AND gets 400 touches @ 5 yards per touch with 70 receptions. That puts him at 2000 total yards, 70 receptions and 11 TDs or 336 points which in every year save for 2008 would NOT have been good enough to be the #1 RB.

And we're done here.

No we're not.Two major reasons why he Rice is a good bet to score more1) More TDs - no more McGahee2) Easier Schedule - (noted in previous post)Also, from a risk analysis he has a very high floor IMHO, so although an upside RB like Foster might score more, I'm essentially saying that Rice has the best chance to score the most.Nobody had Foster as the #1 RB last year so I think we can all agree this is an excercise in handicapping, not an exercise in precision.

 

[Ilov80s]

You aren't talking about the Ravens running game remaining unharmed, you are talking about it improving a great deal.

Um no...that's not what I'm talking about.I'm talking about Rices' numbers improving enough to make him the #1 fantasy RB. That is much different than what you state above.

For Rice to be the #1 RB, production needs to go up or touches need to go up. He was already near the top in touches last year, so I just don't see where this big increase comes from. Looking back the last few years at the points scored in ppr leagues by the #1 RB indicates that Rice will likely need at least 350 points to finish #1. In other words, about 75 points more than he scored last year. So lets say he gets all 5 TDs McGahee scored last year AND gets 400 touches @ 5 yards per touch with 70 receptions. That puts him at 2000 total yards, 70 receptions and 11 TDs or 336 points which in every year save for 2008 would NOT have been good enough to be the #1 RB.

And we're done here.

No we're not.Two major reasons why he Rice is a good bet to score more1) More TDs - no more McGahee2) Easier Schedule - (noted in previous post)Also, from a risk analysis he has a very high floor IMHO, so although an upside RB like Foster might score more, I'm essentially saying that Rice has the best chance to score the most.Nobody had Foster as the #1 RB last year so I think we can all agree this is an excercise in handicapping, not an exercise in precision.

McGahee only scored 5x last year. In my brief analysis, I gave Rice all of McGahee's TDs.I agree that the schedule is easier, but at the same time I'd argue the Ravens aren't as good as they were last season. They have lot a lot to FA.

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

I don't have Ray Rice as my #1 RB but I think he's likely to improve upon last year's performance. All of the following experienced players are gone in Baltimore:

Willis McGahee

LeRon McClain

Todd Heap

Derrick Mason

TJ Housh

Basically Rice and Boldin are the only two experienced skill players returning to an offense that now has a Pro Bowl fullback, improved OL, a QB entering his prime and a softer schedule.

 

[LHUCKS]

Basically Rice and Boldin are the only two experienced guys returning to an offense that now has a Pro Bowl fullback, improved OL, a QB entering his prime and a softer schedule.

My understanding was the OL will be about the same...have seen/heard differently?

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

Basically Rice and Boldin are the only two experienced guys returning to an offense that now has a Pro Bowl fullback, improved OL, a QB entering his prime and a softer schedule.

My understanding was the OL will be about the same...have seen/heard differently?

Harbaugh made it a point at the NFL combine in February to say Yanda was the team’s priority in free agency. He epitomizes everything they want in an offensive lineman. He’s strong. He’s tough. And he’s a hard worker.

Yanda is expected to move back to right guard, where he could be a Pro Bowl performer. Some team officials believe starting Yanda at guard is key to picking up a sagging running game.

A third-round pick in 2007, Yanda can play every position on the offensive line. In starting 42 career games, he has bounced from guard to tackle and back throughout his career. He also serves as the third-string center.

Last season, Yanda started at right tackle after Gaither was sidelined for the entire year with a back injury.

Link

 

[Dragon1952]

In 7 division games last year (including playoff game vs PIT), plus a game vs the Jets Rice went 126 carries for 463 yds and 2 TD's ( a 57.8 ypg avg), and 21 rec for 124 yds and 0 TD's. He's got the Jets again this year, the 6 division games plus San Diego (who should be tough), so he better do lights out in the other 8 games to finish #1.

 

[krugoh]

You aren't talking about the Ravens running game remaining unharmed, you are talking about it improving a great deal.

Um no...that's not what I'm talking about.I'm talking about Rices' numbers improving enough to make him the #1 fantasy RB. That is much different than what you state above.

For Rice to be the #1 RB, production needs to go up or touches need to go up. He was already near the top in touches last year, so I just don't see where this big increase comes from. Looking back the last few years at the points scored in ppr leagues by the #1 RB indicates that Rice will likely need at least 350 points to finish #1. In other words, about 75 points more than he scored last year. So lets say he gets all 5 TDs McGahee scored last year AND gets 400 touches @ 5 yards per touch with 70 receptions. That puts him at 2000 total yards, 70 receptions and 11 TDs or 336 points which in every year save for 2008 would NOT have been good enough to be the #1 RB.So your position is either: Rice gets well over 400 touches or the Baltimore run game is significantly improved this year.

I love how little credit people give to Vonta Leach for Foster's success last year. McGahee or not, Vonta WILL boost Rice's value.That being said, I still think AP will be #1 and Rice will be #2

 

[Ilov80s]

You aren't talking about the Ravens running game remaining unharmed, you are talking about it improving a great deal.

Um no...that's not what I'm talking about.I'm talking about Rices' numbers improving enough to make him the #1 fantasy RB. That is much different than what you state above.

For Rice to be the #1 RB, production needs to go up or touches need to go up. He was already near the top in touches last year, so I just don't see where this big increase comes from. Looking back the last few years at the points scored in ppr leagues by the #1 RB indicates that Rice will likely need at least 350 points to finish #1. In other words, about 75 points more than he scored last year. So lets say he gets all 5 TDs McGahee scored last year AND gets 400 touches @ 5 yards per touch with 70 receptions. That puts him at 2000 total yards, 70 receptions and 11 TDs or 336 points which in every year save for 2008 would NOT have been good enough to be the #1 RB.So your position is either: Rice gets well over 400 touches or the Baltimore run game is significantly improved this year.

I love how little credit people give to Vonta Leach for Foster's success last year. McGahee or not, Vonta WILL boost Rice's value.That being said, I still think AP will be #1 and Rice will be #2

Leach might be the best run blocking FB in football, but McClain is a 2x All Pro and no slouch in run blocking himself. This isn't an upgrade so much as swapping 1 All Pro for another.

 

[matttyl]

You aren't talking about the Ravens running game remaining unharmed, you are talking about it improving a great deal.

Um no...that's not what I'm talking about.I'm talking about Rices' numbers improving enough to make him the #1 fantasy RB. That is much different than what you state above.

For Rice to be the #1 RB, production needs to go up or touches need to go up. He was already near the top in touches last year, so I just don't see where this big increase comes from. Looking back the last few years at the points scored in ppr leagues by the #1 RB indicates that Rice will likely need at least 350 points to finish #1. In other words, about 75 points more than he scored last year. So lets say he gets all 5 TDs McGahee scored last year AND gets 400 touches @ 5 yards per touch with 70 receptions. That puts him at 2000 total yards, 70 receptions and 11 TDs or 336 points which in every year save for 2008 would NOT have been good enough to be the #1 RB.So your position is either: Rice gets well over 400 touches or the Baltimore run game is significantly improved this year.

I love how little credit people give to Vonta Leach for Foster's success last year. McGahee or not, Vonta WILL boost Rice's value.That being said, I still think AP will be #1 and Rice will be #2

Leach might be the best run blocking FB in football, but McClain is a 2x All Pro and no slouch in run blocking himself. This isn't an upgrade so much as swapping 1 All Pro for another.

And swapping out a guy who took 200 yards from Rice last year for a guy who hasn't had a carry in what, 4 years now? Just being fair....

 

[Ilov80s]

You aren't talking about the Ravens running game remaining unharmed, you are talking about it improving a great deal.

Um no...that's not what I'm talking about.I'm talking about Rices' numbers improving enough to make him the #1 fantasy RB. That is much different than what you state above.

For Rice to be the #1 RB, production needs to go up or touches need to go up. He was already near the top in touches last year, so I just don't see where this big increase comes from. Looking back the last few years at the points scored in ppr leagues by the #1 RB indicates that Rice will likely need at least 350 points to finish #1. In other words, about 75 points more than he scored last year. So lets say he gets all 5 TDs McGahee scored last year AND gets 400 touches @ 5 yards per touch with 70 receptions. That puts him at 2000 total yards, 70 receptions and 11 TDs or 336 points which in every year save for 2008 would NOT have been good enough to be the #1 RB.So your position is either: Rice gets well over 400 touches or the Baltimore run game is significantly improved this year.

I love how little credit people give to Vonta Leach for Foster's success last year. McGahee or not, Vonta WILL boost Rice's value.That being said, I still think AP will be #1 and Rice will be #2

Leach might be the best run blocking FB in football, but McClain is a 2x All Pro and no slouch in run blocking himself. This isn't an upgrade so much as swapping 1 All Pro for another.

And swapping out a guy who took 200 yards from Rice last year for a guy who hasn't had a carry in what, 4 years now? Just being fair....

Ok, let's say Rice got every carry last year. That puts him at 2387 yards and 12 TDs and 63 receptions. In standard PPR, he would score 373 points. Which would have made him the 2nd RB behind Foster. Out of the last 10 years, only 3 times has the top PPR RB finished with less than 373 points.

 

[krugoh]

You aren't talking about the Ravens running game remaining unharmed, you are talking about it improving a great deal.

Um no...that's not what I'm talking about.I'm talking about Rices' numbers improving enough to make him the #1 fantasy RB. That is much different than what you state above.

For Rice to be the #1 RB, production needs to go up or touches need to go up. He was already near the top in touches last year, so I just don't see where this big increase comes from. Looking back the last few years at the points scored in ppr leagues by the #1 RB indicates that Rice will likely need at least 350 points to finish #1. In other words, about 75 points more than he scored last year. So lets say he gets all 5 TDs McGahee scored last year AND gets 400 touches @ 5 yards per touch with 70 receptions. That puts him at 2000 total yards, 70 receptions and 11 TDs or 336 points which in every year save for 2008 would NOT have been good enough to be the #1 RB.So your position is either: Rice gets well over 400 touches or the Baltimore run game is significantly improved this year.

I love how little credit people give to Vonta Leach for Foster's success last year. McGahee or not, Vonta WILL boost Rice's value.That being said, I still think AP will be #1 and Rice will be #2

Leach might be the best run blocking FB in football, but McClain is a 2x All Pro and no slouch in run blocking himself. This isn't an upgrade so much as swapping 1 All Pro for another.

And swapping out a guy who took 200 yards from Rice last year for a guy who hasn't had a carry in what, 4 years now? Just being fair....

Ok, let's say Rice got every carry last year. That puts him at 2387 yards and 12 TDs and 63 receptions. In standard PPR, he would score 373 points. Which would have made him the 2nd RB behind Foster. Out of the last 10 years, only 3 times has the top PPR RB finished with less than 373 points.

Heap gone = more checkdowns

 

[Sweet Love]

Typically I like a top 3 pick, just to pick up the best RB I can get. This year, I'm kind of hoping for number 5 or 6, because I think that in my league I will be able to steal Ray Rice at that point (I see Foster, Peterson, Johnson, and Charles going ahead of him...maybe Vick as well, if someone jumps too high for him). I may have a tough time deciding between him or Arian Foster as my top pick for the year, but I wouldn't take anyone else above those two...especially in a PPR.

I got Rice at #4 last year, and was slightly disappointed with his results, but he certainly did enough to warrant the pick for me. Without Mcgahee, I think he's about as much of a lock this season as you can have in fantasy football.

I think this point is missed on a lot of people. When I pick in the first round, I am not hoping to get a guy who will end up #1 (just waaaay too many variables go into that...it is a crapshoot), I just hope my guy does not fall more than 7+ places where I took him in the format. We are quick as a group to say you win in FF through the middle rounds, but we also expect our #1 pick to exceed his draft spot...it just does not make sense. Barring injury, with the moves I have seen this year, I have to think Rice is the safest pick, whether you get him at #1 or #6 in PPR.

 

[Ilov80s]

You aren't talking about the Ravens running game remaining unharmed, you are talking about it improving a great deal.

Um no...that's not what I'm talking about.I'm talking about Rices' numbers improving enough to make him the #1 fantasy RB. That is much different than what you state above.

For Rice to be the #1 RB, production needs to go up or touches need to go up. He was already near the top in touches last year, so I just don't see where this big increase comes from. Looking back the last few years at the points scored in ppr leagues by the #1 RB indicates that Rice will likely need at least 350 points to finish #1. In other words, about 75 points more than he scored last year. So lets say he gets all 5 TDs McGahee scored last year AND gets 400 touches @ 5 yards per touch with 70 receptions. That puts him at 2000 total yards, 70 receptions and 11 TDs or 336 points which in every year save for 2008 would NOT have been good enough to be the #1 RB.So your position is either: Rice gets well over 400 touches or the Baltimore run game is significantly improved this year.

I love how little credit people give to Vonta Leach for Foster's success last year. McGahee or not, Vonta WILL boost Rice's value.That being said, I still think AP will be #1 and Rice will be #2

Leach might be the best run blocking FB in football, but McClain is a 2x All Pro and no slouch in run blocking himself. This isn't an upgrade so much as swapping 1 All Pro for another.

And swapping out a guy who took 200 yards from Rice last year for a guy who hasn't had a carry in what, 4 years now? Just being fair....

Ok, let's say Rice got every carry last year. That puts him at 2387 yards and 12 TDs and 63 receptions. In standard PPR, he would score 373 points. Which would have made him the 2nd RB behind Foster. Out of the last 10 years, only 3 times has the top PPR RB finished with less than 373 points.

Heap gone = more checkdowns

He had 82 targets last year, how many more passes are you expecting to be thrown his way?

 

[LHUCKS]

Typically I like a top 3 pick, just to pick up the best RB I can get. This year, I'm kind of hoping for number 5 or 6, because I think that in my league I will be able to steal Ray Rice at that point (I see Foster, Peterson, Johnson, and Charles going ahead of him...maybe Vick as well, if someone jumps too high for him). I may have a tough time deciding between him or Arian Foster as my top pick for the year, but I wouldn't take anyone else above those two...especially in a PPR.

I got Rice at #4 last year, and was slightly disappointed with his results, but he certainly did enough to warrant the pick for me. Without Mcgahee, I think he's about as much of a lock this season as you can have in fantasy football.

I think this point is missed on a lot of people. When I pick in the first round, I am not hoping to get a guy who will end up #1 (just waaaay too many variables go into that...it is a crapshoot), I just hope my guy does not fall more than 7+ places where I took him in the format. We are quick as a group to say you win in FF through the middle rounds, but we also expect our #1 pick to exceed his draft spot...it just does not make sense. Barring injury, with the moves I have seen this year, I have to think Rice is the safest pick, whether you get him at #1 or #6 in PPR.

My rankings are heavily influenced by a risk factor that I apply so that obviously played a large role in making Rice my #1 RB this year.

 

[Ilov80s]

Typically I like a top 3 pick, just to pick up the best RB I can get. This year, I'm kind of hoping for number 5 or 6, because I think that in my league I will be able to steal Ray Rice at that point (I see Foster, Peterson, Johnson, and Charles going ahead of him...maybe Vick as well, if someone jumps too high for him). I may have a tough time deciding between him or Arian Foster as my top pick for the year, but I wouldn't take anyone else above those two...especially in a PPR.

I got Rice at #4 last year, and was slightly disappointed with his results, but he certainly did enough to warrant the pick for me. Without Mcgahee, I think he's about as much of a lock this season as you can have in fantasy football.

I think this point is missed on a lot of people. When I pick in the first round, I am not hoping to get a guy who will end up #1 (just waaaay too many variables go into that...it is a crapshoot), I just hope my guy does not fall more than 7+ places where I took him in the format. We are quick as a group to say you win in FF through the middle rounds, but we also expect our #1 pick to exceed his draft spot...it just does not make sense. Barring injury, with the moves I have seen this year, I have to think Rice is the safest pick, whether you get him at #1 or #6 in PPR.

My rankings are heavily influenced by a risk factor that I apply so that obviously played a large role in making Rice my #1 RB this year.

I agree with risk factor being a huge element early in a draft. However, your premise of this thread is that "Ray Rice will be the #1 fantasy back of 2011", which is different from, "I have Ray Rice ranked as my #1 RB". I think a healthy Ray is a surefire lock to be top 10. However, for Rice to finish as the #1 RB, he needs to score more TDs this year than he has in the sum of his entire 3 year career

 

[bmj87]

Just to add ... A lot of people are projecting Rice's numbers solely based off of last year's rushing stats.

Let's not forget what this running game is capable of under Cam Cameron:

2010: 1650 rushing yards, 10 rushing TDs

2009: 2080 rushing yards, 21 rushing TDs

2008: 2079 rushing yards, 17 rushing TDs

 

[Ilov80s]

Just to add ... A lot of people are projecting Rice's numbers solely based off of last year's rushing stats.Let's not forget what this running game is capable of under Cam Cameron:2010: 1650 rushing yards, 10 rushing TDs2009: 2080 rushing yards, 21 rushing TDs2008: 2079 rushing yards, 17 rushing TDs

The question becomes why? Was 2010 just some kind of random aberration? Has the offensive line play really fallen off? Is the stop in success because the backfield has transitioned from a RBBC to a workhorse back system?

 

[Raider Nation]

PPR, nobody plays TD only...at least not those of us who matter

Listen, new guy. I do things my way for a very particular reason. There are other threads if you don't like this one.

Nobody knows who you are.I was posting around here before you knew what fantasy football was.

You are a clown.It is AMAZING to me how you continue disrespecting Joe and David's board despite the fact they should have banned you five minutes after you began posting. It's clear your only mission here is to antagonize everyone, and try out your shtick on the few remaining people who don't yet realize you're a little weasel who contributes nothing to this fine community. Do everyone a favor and go away.

 

[higgins]

PPR, nobody plays TD only...at least not those of us who matter

Listen, new guy. I do things my way for a very particular reason. There are other threads if you don't like this one.

Nobody knows who you are.I was posting around here before you knew what fantasy football was.

You are a clown.It is AMAZING to me how you continue disrespecting Joe and David's board despite the fact they should have banned you five minutes after you began posting. It's clear your only mission here is to antagonize everyone, and try out your shtick on the few remaining people who don't yet realize you're a little weasel who contributes nothing to this fine community. Do everyone a favor and go away.

 

[matttyl]

You aren't talking about the Ravens running game remaining unharmed, you are talking about it improving a great deal.

Um no...that's not what I'm talking about.I'm talking about Rices' numbers improving enough to make him the #1 fantasy RB. That is much different than what you state above.

For Rice to be the #1 RB, production needs to go up or touches need to go up. He was already near the top in touches last year, so I just don't see where this big increase comes from. Looking back the last few years at the points scored in ppr leagues by the #1 RB indicates that Rice will likely need at least 350 points to finish #1. In other words, about 75 points more than he scored last year. So lets say he gets all 5 TDs McGahee scored last year AND gets 400 touches @ 5 yards per touch with 70 receptions. That puts him at 2000 total yards, 70 receptions and 11 TDs or 336 points which in every year save for 2008 would NOT have been good enough to be the #1 RB.So your position is either: Rice gets well over 400 touches or the Baltimore run game is significantly improved this year.

I love how little credit people give to Vonta Leach for Foster's success last year. McGahee or not, Vonta WILL boost Rice's value.That being said, I still think AP will be #1 and Rice will be #2

Leach might be the best run blocking FB in football, but McClain is a 2x All Pro and no slouch in run blocking himself. This isn't an upgrade so much as swapping 1 All Pro for another.

And swapping out a guy who took 200 yards from Rice last year for a guy who hasn't had a carry in what, 4 years now? Just being fair....

Ok, let's say Rice got every carry last year. That puts him at 2387 yards and 12 TDs and 63 receptions. In standard PPR, he would score 373 points. Which would have made him the 2nd RB behind Foster. Out of the last 10 years, only 3 times has the top PPR RB finished with less than 373 points.

2nd behind the guy who lost his blocking FB (to Rice no less), and who's in an offense that transitions far more to the passing game with a healthy Owen Daniels that they now have back. The following is something I came up with from another thread, but if that's your argument for Foster, I'll paste it here....In the 12 games with Daniels either out, or getting less than 40 receiving yards -Foster has1,348 rushing yards - 112 per game average477 receiving yards - 40 per game average16 total TDs - 1.33 per game averageExactly 300 fantasy points - 25 per game averageIn the 6 games with Daniels getting more than 40 receiving yards -Foster has482 rushing yards - 80 per game average (29% reduction)153 receiving yards - 25.5 per game average (36% reduction)5 total TDs - .833 per game average (half a TD less per game average, 38% reduction)101 fantasy points - 16.8 per game average (33% reduction)Honestly, that's staggering! That's a HUGE reduction from when the team is a running team (games with Daniels out) to when they are a passing team (when Daniels is in).Schaub's average attempts in games with Daniels out or getting less than 40 receiving yards - 34 / average when Daniels is over 40 receiving yards - 40 (18% more)Foster's average number of carries with Daniels out or getting less than 40 receiving yards - 21.3 / average when Daniels is over 40 receiving yards - 18.3 (14% less)These two stats clearly show the difference in the offense with and without Daniels.

 

[ravnzfan]

You aren't talking about the Ravens running game remaining unharmed, you are talking about it improving a great deal.

Um no...that's not what I'm talking about.I'm talking about Rices' numbers improving enough to make him the #1 fantasy RB. That is much different than what you state above.

For Rice to be the #1 RB, production needs to go up or touches need to go up. He was already near the top in touches last year, so I just don't see where this big increase comes from. Looking back the last few years at the points scored in ppr leagues by the #1 RB indicates that Rice will likely need at least 350 points to finish #1. In other words, about 75 points more than he scored last year. So lets say he gets all 5 TDs McGahee scored last year AND gets 400 touches @ 5 yards per touch with 70 receptions. That puts him at 2000 total yards, 70 receptions and 11 TDs or 336 points which in every year save for 2008 would NOT have been good enough to be the #1 RB.So your position is either: Rice gets well over 400 touches or the Baltimore run game is significantly improved this year.

I love how little credit people give to Vonta Leach for Foster's success last year. McGahee or not, Vonta WILL boost Rice's value.

That being said, I still think AP will be #1 and Rice will be #2

Leach might be the best run blocking FB in football, but McClain is a 2x All Pro and no slouch in run blocking himself. This isn't an upgrade so much as swapping 1 All Pro for another.

I was going to leave this alone, but Junior swings and misses huge hereMcClain didn't want to play FB, tried to get a gig as a RB and has landed in KC to do...well, I'm not sure

the cat had a FB page "let McClain carry the ball" or something to that effect

after landing Yanda, then next priority was to land a FB that knows his role---block for Rice and catch 25 balls or so out of the backfield...Ravens landed a bull in Leach

the Raven run game was tough w/LNeal as lead FB a couple seasons ago, when he led for "the 3 headed monster"

this year, there is but 1 monster, Thread subject Ray Rice

while #1 overall would make me , I fully expect better than top 5 finish for Rice...AND for him to finish ahead of AFoster

 

[Ilov80s]

You aren't talking about the Ravens running game remaining unharmed, you are talking about it improving a great deal.

Um no...that's not what I'm talking about.I'm talking about Rices' numbers improving enough to make him the #1 fantasy RB. That is much different than what you state above.

For Rice to be the #1 RB, production needs to go up or touches need to go up. He was already near the top in touches last year, so I just don't see where this big increase comes from. Looking back the last few years at the points scored in ppr leagues by the #1 RB indicates that Rice will likely need at least 350 points to finish #1. In other words, about 75 points more than he scored last year. So lets say he gets all 5 TDs McGahee scored last year AND gets 400 touches @ 5 yards per touch with 70 receptions. That puts him at 2000 total yards, 70 receptions and 11 TDs or 336 points which in every year save for 2008 would NOT have been good enough to be the #1 RB.So your position is either: Rice gets well over 400 touches or the Baltimore run game is significantly improved this year.

I love how little credit people give to Vonta Leach for Foster's success last year. McGahee or not, Vonta WILL boost Rice's value.That being said, I still think AP will be #1 and Rice will be #2

Leach might be the best run blocking FB in football, but McClain is a 2x All Pro and no slouch in run blocking himself. This isn't an upgrade so much as swapping 1 All Pro for another.

And swapping out a guy who took 200 yards from Rice last year for a guy who hasn't had a carry in what, 4 years now? Just being fair....

Ok, let's say Rice got every carry last year. That puts him at 2387 yards and 12 TDs and 63 receptions. In standard PPR, he would score 373 points. Which would have made him the 2nd RB behind Foster. Out of the last 10 years, only 3 times has the top PPR RB finished with less than 373 points.

2nd behind the guy who lost his blocking FB (to Rice no less), and who's in an offense that transitions far more to the passing game with a healthy Owen Daniels that they now have back. The following is something I came up with from another thread, but if that's your argument for Foster, I'll paste it here....In the 12 games with Daniels either out, or getting less than 40 receiving yards -Foster has1,348 rushing yards - 112 per game average477 receiving yards - 40 per game average16 total TDs - 1.33 per game averageExactly 300 fantasy points - 25 per game averageIn the 6 games with Daniels getting more than 40 receiving yards -Foster has482 rushing yards - 80 per game average (29% reduction)153 receiving yards - 25.5 per game average (36% reduction)5 total TDs - .833 per game average (half a TD less per game average, 38% reduction)101 fantasy points - 16.8 per game average (33% reduction)Honestly, that's staggering! That's a HUGE reduction from when the team is a running team (games with Daniels out) to when they are a passing team (when Daniels is in).Schaub's average attempts in games with Daniels out or getting less than 40 receiving yards - 34 / average when Daniels is over 40 receiving yards - 40 (18% more)Foster's average number of carries with Daniels out or getting less than 40 receiving yards - 21.3 / average when Daniels is over 40 receiving yards - 18.3 (14% less)These two stats clearly show the difference in the offense with and without Daniels.

Interesting stats, however the thread is about Ray Rice finishing as #1. Those numbers would be better suited for a discussion on Arian Foster repeating as #1.

 

[Ilov80s]

You aren't talking about the Ravens running game remaining unharmed, you are talking about it improving a great deal.

Um no...that's not what I'm talking about.I'm talking about Rices' numbers improving enough to make him the #1 fantasy RB. That is much different than what you state above.

For Rice to be the #1 RB, production needs to go up or touches need to go up. He was already near the top in touches last year, so I just don't see where this big increase comes from. Looking back the last few years at the points scored in ppr leagues by the #1 RB indicates that Rice will likely need at least 350 points to finish #1. In other words, about 75 points more than he scored last year. So lets say he gets all 5 TDs McGahee scored last year AND gets 400 touches @ 5 yards per touch with 70 receptions. That puts him at 2000 total yards, 70 receptions and 11 TDs or 336 points which in every year save for 2008 would NOT have been good enough to be the #1 RB.So your position is either: Rice gets well over 400 touches or the Baltimore run game is significantly improved this year.

I love how little credit people give to Vonta Leach for Foster's success last year. McGahee or not, Vonta WILL boost Rice's value.

That being said, I still think AP will be #1 and Rice will be #2

Leach might be the best run blocking FB in football, but McClain is a 2x All Pro and no slouch in run blocking himself. This isn't an upgrade so much as swapping 1 All Pro for another.

I was going to leave this alone, but Junior swings and misses huge hereMcClain didn't want to play FB, tried to get a gig as a RB and has landed in KC to do...well, I'm not sure

the cat had a FB page "let McClain carry the ball" or something to that effect

after landing Yanda, then next priority was to land a FB that knows his role---block for Rice and catch 25 balls or so out of the backfield...Ravens landed a bull in Leach

the Raven run game was tough w/LNeal as lead FB a couple seasons ago, when he led for "the 3 headed monster"

this year, there is but 1 monster, Thread subject Ray Rice

while #1 overall would make me , I fully expect better than top 5 finish for Rice...AND for him to finish ahead of AFoster

You have probably seen more Ravens games than I, I'll defer to you that Leron McClain is not a Pro Bowl caliber run blocker.

 

[krugoh]

You aren't talking about the Ravens running game remaining unharmed, you are talking about it improving a great deal.

Um no...that's not what I'm talking about.I'm talking about Rices' numbers improving enough to make him the #1 fantasy RB. That is much different than what you state above.

For Rice to be the #1 RB, production needs to go up or touches need to go up. He was already near the top in touches last year, so I just don't see where this big increase comes from. Looking back the last few years at the points scored in ppr leagues by the #1 RB indicates that Rice will likely need at least 350 points to finish #1. In other words, about 75 points more than he scored last year. So lets say he gets all 5 TDs McGahee scored last year AND gets 400 touches @ 5 yards per touch with 70 receptions. That puts him at 2000 total yards, 70 receptions and 11 TDs or 336 points which in every year save for 2008 would NOT have been good enough to be the #1 RB.

So your position is either: Rice gets well over 400 touches or the Baltimore run game is significantly improved this year.

I love how little credit people give to Vonta Leach for Foster's success last year. McGahee or not, Vonta WILL boost Rice's value.

That being said, I still think AP will be #1 and Rice will be #2

Leach might be the best run blocking FB in football, but McClain is a 2x All Pro and no slouch in run blocking himself. This isn't an upgrade so much as swapping 1 All Pro for another.

I was going to leave this alone, but Junior swings and misses huge hereMcClain didn't want to play FB, tried to get a gig as a RB and has landed in KC to do...well, I'm not sure

the cat had a FB page "let McClain carry the ball" or something to that effect

after landing Yanda, then next priority was to land a FB that knows his role---block for Rice and catch 25 balls or so out of the backfield...Ravens landed a bull in Leach

the Raven run game was tough w/LNeal as lead FB a couple seasons ago, when he led for "the 3 headed monster"

this year, there is but 1 monster, Thread subject Ray Rice

while #1 overall would make me , I fully expect better than top 5 finish for Rice...AND for him to finish ahead of AFoster

You have probably seen more Ravens games than I, I'll defer to you that Leron McClain is not a Pro Bowl caliber run blocker.

Glad to see the agreement here. Also, I wanted to mention Lorenzo Neal - but would have been labeled as bias due to chargers alleigance on my part.

 

[Ilov80s]

You aren't talking about the Ravens running game remaining unharmed, you are talking about it improving a great deal.

Um no...that's not what I'm talking about.I'm talking about Rices' numbers improving enough to make him the #1 fantasy RB. That is much different than what you state above.

For Rice to be the #1 RB, production needs to go up or touches need to go up. He was already near the top in touches last year, so I just don't see where this big increase comes from. Looking back the last few years at the points scored in ppr leagues by the #1 RB indicates that Rice will likely need at least 350 points to finish #1. In other words, about 75 points more than he scored last year. So lets say he gets all 5 TDs McGahee scored last year AND gets 400 touches @ 5 yards per touch with 70 receptions. That puts him at 2000 total yards, 70 receptions and 11 TDs or 336 points which in every year save for 2008 would NOT have been good enough to be the #1 RB.

So your position is either: Rice gets well over 400 touches or the Baltimore run game is significantly improved this year.

I love how little credit people give to Vonta Leach for Foster's success last year. McGahee or not, Vonta WILL boost Rice's value.

That being said, I still think AP will be #1 and Rice will be #2

Leach might be the best run blocking FB in football, but McClain is a 2x All Pro and no slouch in run blocking himself. This isn't an upgrade so much as swapping 1 All Pro for another.

I was going to leave this alone, but Junior swings and misses huge hereMcClain didn't want to play FB, tried to get a gig as a RB and has landed in KC to do...well, I'm not sure

the cat had a FB page "let McClain carry the ball" or something to that effect

after landing Yanda, then next priority was to land a FB that knows his role---block for Rice and catch 25 balls or so out of the backfield...Ravens landed a bull in Leach

the Raven run game was tough w/LNeal as lead FB a couple seasons ago, when he led for "the 3 headed monster"

this year, there is but 1 monster, Thread subject Ray Rice

while #1 overall would make me , I fully expect better than top 5 finish for Rice...AND for him to finish ahead of AFoster

You have probably seen more Ravens games than I, I'll defer to you that Leron McClain is not a Pro Bowl caliber run blocker.

Glad to see the agreement here. Also, I wanted to mention Lorenzo Neal - but would have been labeled as bias due to chargers alleigance on my part.

Ray Rice could be the #1 RB. If Arian Foster or Matt Forte can do it, than Rice can. I just see the pros (Leach, 2 potentially good young guards, easy schedule) and the cons (loss of key free agents, injuries and question marks at LT/RT/C, a below average running attack in 2010) cancel each other out and kind of leave me wondering where and how he manages to score 75-100 more points than he did last year. I didn't look at everyone, but as far as I can tell Ray Rice rushed or was the target of a pass on 38% of Baltimore's offensive plays. Foster was 40 % Chris Johnson was 41%. Those 3 appear to be the leaders amongst the league in % of offensive plays they are involved in. Rice isn't like a Jamal Charles (28%) whom is producing at a high level with a lot of room to increase touches. Baltimore's offense last year averaged 5.1 yards per play, amongst the bottom third in the league and the same amount as the Lions (whom had their 2nd and 3rd string QBs starting 14/16 games), Cinci, Minnesota, and Buffalo. This is a Baltimore offense that is losing parts and coming off a really below average year- especially for an offense that seemed poise to be one of the better all around attacks. The moves they have made don't make too inclined to project a big up tick in the effectiveness of the offense.

 

[ravnzfan]

You aren't talking about the Ravens running game remaining unharmed, you are talking about it improving a great deal.

Um no...that's not what I'm talking about.I'm talking about Rices' numbers improving enough to make him the #1 fantasy RB. That is much different than what you state above.

For Rice to be the #1 RB, production needs to go up or touches need to go up. He was already near the top in touches last year, so I just don't see where this big increase comes from. Looking back the last few years at the points scored in ppr leagues by the #1 RB indicates that Rice will likely need at least 350 points to finish #1. In other words, about 75 points more than he scored last year. So lets say he gets all 5 TDs McGahee scored last year AND gets 400 touches @ 5 yards per touch with 70 receptions. That puts him at 2000 total yards, 70 receptions and 11 TDs or 336 points which in every year save for 2008 would NOT have been good enough to be the #1 RB.

So your position is either: Rice gets well over 400 touches or the Baltimore run game is significantly improved this year.

I love how little credit people give to Vonta Leach for Foster's success last year. McGahee or not, Vonta WILL boost Rice's value.

That being said, I still think AP will be #1 and Rice will be #2

Leach might be the best run blocking FB in football, but McClain is a 2x All Pro and no slouch in run blocking himself. This isn't an upgrade so much as swapping 1 All Pro for another.

I was going to leave this alone, but Junior swings and misses huge hereMcClain didn't want to play FB, tried to get a gig as a RB and has landed in KC to do...well, I'm not sure

the cat had a FB page "let McClain carry the ball" or something to that effect

after landing Yanda, then next priority was to land a FB that knows his role---block for Rice and catch 25 balls or so out of the backfield...Ravens landed a bull in Leach

the Raven run game was tough w/LNeal as lead FB a couple seasons ago, when he led for "the 3 headed monster"

this year, there is but 1 monster, Thread subject Ray Rice

while #1 overall would make me , I fully expect better than top 5 finish for Rice...AND for him to finish ahead of AFoster

You have probably seen more Ravens games than I, I'll defer to you that Leron McClain is not a Pro Bowl caliber run blocker.

Glad to see the agreement here. Also, I wanted to mention Lorenzo Neal - but would have been labeled as bias due to chargers alleigance on my part.

Ray Rice could be the #1 RB. If Arian Foster or Matt Forte can do it, than Rice can. I just see the pros (Leach, 2 potentially good young guards, easy schedule) and the cons (loss of key free agents, injuries and question marks at LT/RT/C, a below average running attack in 2010) cancel each other out and kind of leave me wondering where and how he manages to score 75-100 more points than he did last year. I didn't look at everyone, but as far as I can tell Ray Rice rushed or was the target of a pass on 38% of Baltimore's offensive plays. Foster was 40 % Chris Johnson was 41%. Those 3 appear to be the leaders amongst the league in % of offensive plays they are involved in. Rice isn't like a Jamal Charles (28%) whom is producing at a high level with a lot of room to increase touches. Baltimore's offense last year averaged 5.1 yards per play, amongst the bottom third in the league and the same amount as the Lions (whom had their 2nd and 3rd string QBs starting 14/16 games), Cinci, Minnesota, and Buffalo. This is a Baltimore offense that is losing parts and coming off a really below average year- especially for an offense that seemed poise to be one of the better all around attacks. The moves they have made don't make too inclined to project a big up tick in the effectiveness of the offense.

I'd say there is a pretty strong likelihood that I've seen more Raven games than Iluv80's ;-)the upgrade @FB is huge for what the Ravens will want to do this yr, which is increase the productivity in the run game to better utilize play action...let's not kid ourselves--this offense is not SD, NE, Indy, Hous...we will run it, punch you in the mouth on defense, run it, punch you again then run play action to try to beat you deep as there are no burners save TSmith rostered

I expect RR to avg 4.5+, catch 70-ish and score a combined 15 TD's(say ...is that #1? I'm not sure...

but again, I'll go RRice over Foster, w/RR going 1950 combined/15TD's

 

[bostonfred]

If Rice goes down, who takes over?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Im starting to think 1. Ap. 2. Rice. 3. Foster.

Foster hammy concerns me although it was pulled on a 40yd td run.

Rice plays the steelers twice. Whats the rest of his schedule like? Did rice run behind Neal when he was fb there? If so, how was he with a true lead blocker? Whats the oline status?

 

[shortbow]

Im starting to think 1. Ap. 2. Rice. 3. Foster. Foster hammy concerns me although it was pulled on a 40yd td run. Rice plays the steelers twice. Whats the rest of his schedule like? Did rice run behind Neal when he was fb there? If so, how was he with a true lead blocker? Whats the oline status?

It looks like cake, his only two hard games are the steelers and the ravens will grind it out like they always do, he may not get a ton of yards but he will get the carries and catches.vs steelers@ titans@ ramsvs jetsBYEvs texans@ jaguarsvs cardinals@ steelers@ seahawksvs bengalsvs 49ers@ brownsvs colts@ chargersvs browns@ bengals.

 

[Not Sure]

PPR, nobody plays TD only...at least not those of us who matter

Listen, new guy. I do things my way for a very particular reason. There are other threads if you don't like this one.

Nobody knows who you are.I was posting around here before you knew what fantasy football was.

You are a clown.It is AMAZING to me how you continue disrespecting Joe and David's board despite the fact they should have banned you five minutes after you began posting. It's clear your only mission here is to antagonize everyone, and try out your shtick on the few remaining people who don't yet realize you're a little weasel who contributes nothing to this fine community. Do everyone a favor and go away.

 

[Ilov80s]

Im starting to think 1. Ap. 2. Rice. 3. Foster. Foster hammy concerns me although it was pulled on a 40yd td run. Rice plays the steelers twice. Whats the rest of his schedule like? Did rice run behind Neal when he was fb there? If so, how was he with a true lead blocker? Whats the oline status?

It looks like cake, his only two hard games are the steelers and the ravens will grind it out like they always do, he may not get a ton of yards but he will get the carries and catches.vs steelers@ titans@ ramsvs jetsBYEvs texans@ jaguarsvs cardinals@ steelers@ seahawksvs bengalsvs 49ers@ brownsvs colts@ chargersvs browns@ bengals.

Easy schedule, no doubt. However, I wouldn't call the Jets, Changers, or 49ers cake.

 

[Dragon1952]

Im starting to think 1. Ap. 2. Rice. 3. Foster.

Foster hammy concerns me although it was pulled on a 40yd td run.

Rice plays the steelers twice. Whats the rest of his schedule like? Did rice run behind Neal when he was fb there? If so, how was he with a true lead blocker? Whats the oline status?

It looks like cake, his only two hard games are the steelers and the ravens will grind it out like they always do, he may not get a ton of yards but he will get the carries and catches.

vs steelers

@ titans

@ rams

vs jets

BYE

vs texans

@ jaguars

vs cardinals

@ steelers

@ seahawks

vs bengals

vs 49ers

@ browns

vs colts

@ chargers

vs browns

@ bengals.

.....and the Jets possibly. Last year he carried 21 times for just 43 yds and caught 2 passes for 19 yds on just 4 targets. No TD's and just 8.2 FP's.

 

[shortbow]

Im starting to think 1. Ap. 2. Rice. 3. Foster.

Foster hammy concerns me although it was pulled on a 40yd td run.

Rice plays the steelers twice. Whats the rest of his schedule like? Did rice run behind Neal when he was fb there? If so, how was he with a true lead blocker? Whats the oline status?

It looks like cake, his only two hard games are the steelers and the ravens will grind it out like they always do, he may not get a ton of yards but he will get the carries and catches.

vs steelers

@ titans

@ rams

vs jets

BYE

vs texans

@ jaguars

vs cardinals

@ steelers

@ seahawks

vs bengals

vs 49ers

@ browns

vs colts

@ chargers

vs browns

@ bengals.

.....and the Jets possibly. Last year he carried 21 times for just 43 yds and caught 2 passes for 19 yds on just 4 targets. No TD's and just 8.2 FP's.

Possibly, but the only td in that game came from a Willis Mcgahee rushing TD.