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coolnerd
Footballguy
I think Rice will be a good prospect although some will state that he is too small. Honestly, he is more short than small, listed 5'9" (I don't think he is that tall). He seems to have a thick lower body and good muscle mass and is probably more than the listed 195.
We will have to wait until 2008's draft as he is a true sophomore.
We will have to wait until 2008's draft as he is a true sophomore.
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my man otis
Footballguy
Yes, he is. If MJD can do it at that height I don't think Ray Rice should have any trouble. He's very strong, bounces off tackles and fast enough to outrun people. I don't doubt he's got a shot at being a 2nd rounder.
If he has a 2007 as good as his 2006 I think he declares and goes out as a junior in the 2008 draft.
If he has a 2007 as good as his 2006 I think he declares and goes out as a junior in the 2008 draft.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Rice could be $$ for 2008 - he's just a 2nd year guy though, so wait one more year.....
bigupsetter
Footballguy
Ive been surprised how little talk Rice has been getting. Also, Im amazaed how an inch or two or 10 lbs is the measuring stick. If you look back over the last 20 years you find a fair variance in the size of a productive back.
Case in point, Barry Sanders to Eddie George. Both productive, but the smaller back had much better longevity. Besdies, they'll bulk Rice up with another 5-10lbs
Case in point, Barry Sanders to Eddie George. Both productive, but the smaller back had much better longevity. Besdies, they'll bulk Rice up with another 5-10lbs
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Be careful citing MJD for an example of a smaller back making it just fine - he's a freak of nature.That being said, Rice is smaller than ideal, but has the determination, power, change of direction and low running style (which gives him good balance) to overcome that. He's not on the level of a Slaton or McFadden, but he's worthy of being called the #3 RB in a ridiculously good soph RB class. He's not amazingly shifty or nimble, but he's efficient and mostly fluid with his change of direction, and he hits the hole full speed with great first step acceleration.He should be a first day pick, but not a first rounder.
Turbo Punch
Footballguy
Rice's problem as an NFL prospect is not going to be his size - It's his lack of break away speed. I've seen every game he has played and he seems to get caught from behind more than he should.
On the NFL network the guys calling the game kept throwing around names of NFL players that Rice reminded them of. The one name I can remember was Curtis Martin. I'm sure Rice will take a HOF career right now, but remember Martin wasn't that great of a prospect when he entered the draft being only a 3rd round pick.
On the NFL network the guys calling the game kept throwing around names of NFL players that Rice reminded them of. The one name I can remember was Curtis Martin. I'm sure Rice will take a HOF career right now, but remember Martin wasn't that great of a prospect when he entered the draft being only a 3rd round pick.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Major size difference between Rice and MJD. ESPN.com lists MJD at 5-7 212ESPN.com lists Rice at 5-9 195
Koya
Footballguy
Rice's biggest issue in regard to his size (height doesnt matter, but only being 195, if that, could be) will not be in running, but pass protection, which is HUGE on the next level.
Rice will likely need to add 10 lbs at least and be able to block to have any hope at the NFL level.
Rice will likely need to add 10 lbs at least and be able to block to have any hope at the NFL level.
ThisGuy
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Turbo Punch said:
I have said this from day one. I was lucky enough to have seen Curtis Martin more than a few times in college and the first time I saw Ray Rice play last year, I immediatelythought of Martin. Watching every Rutgers game this year only added to that. He's a talented kid with great vision and greater determination. There are larger and faster RB's, but Rice is special. I think he'd make a very good pro.
I'd go with rice at this point. Hill is a very intriguing big back with quickness, but it's hard to say how much of his success was due to the line - he did NOTHING against a good arkansas front 4.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I was looking at Rice's gamelogs for the season...they are pretty jaw dropping when you look thru them. Rutgers should have another great season next year with this guy in the backfield.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
This is what always stands out to me. It amazes me that he was recruited out of HS as a cornerback - his instincts are absolutely amazing. He is SO patient waiting for holes to develop, he knows how to keep moving forward waiting for his blockers, uses the blockers so well, knows when to go for the edge, knows when to turn it inside, etc. How many times this year did you see him try to get the corner and NOT get there? Almost never. How many times did it seem like he was going to be tripped up, only he ended up steamrolling a defender or keeping his legs moving to grind out an extra 2-3 yards and a first down? TONS.He doesn't have ideal size or speed, but he has the heart and the vision of a HOF-back. I'd draft him in a heartbeat.
texasyankee
Footballguy
They return most (4 out of 5) of the O-Line, the WR's & QB should be more productive as well which will keep teams from stacking up against him. Should be a fun season.This is what always stands out to me. It amazes me that he was recruited out of HS as a cornerback - his instincts are absolutely amazing. He is SO patient waiting for holes to develop, he knows how to keep moving forward waiting for his blockers, uses the blockers so well, knows when to go for the edge, knows when to turn it inside, etc. How many times this year did you see him try to get the corner and NOT get there? Almost never. How many times did it seem like he was going to be tripped up, only he ended up steamrolling a defender or keeping his legs moving to grind out an extra 2-3 yards and a first down? TONS.He doesn't have ideal size or speed, but he has the heart and the vision of a HOF-back. I'd draft him in a heartbeat.I have said this from day one. I was lucky enough to have seen Curtis Martin more than a few times in college and the first time I saw Ray Rice play last year, I immediatelythought of Martin. Watching every Rutgers game this year only added to that. He's a talented kid with great vision and greater determination. There are larger and faster RB's, but Rice is special. I think he'd make a very good pro.
