I like Blake Corum long term but I'm not sure about the "speed" reference to Brian Robinson being a good thing lol. Neither guy is fast so why highlight it? Odd. They both win without elite speed. Vision and shiftiness and ability to keep running through contact is some of their positives.Jeff Mueller, PT, DPT
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Yeah I read that as kind of an insult? As a Michigan fan I can say Blake has great vision and balance. Those are his gifts. Where he struggles is the speed. He's got the restrictor plate on him. So much so it could be a fatal flaw.I like Blake Corum long term but I'm not sure about the "speed" reference to Brian Robinson being a good thing lol. Neither guy is fast so why highlight it? Odd. They both win without elite speed. Vision and shiftiness and ability to keep running through contact is some of their positives.Jeff Mueller, PT, DPT
Blake Corum with the lateral agility/lane navigation of JK Dobbins and the straight line speed of Brian Robinsonx.com
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Just an odd reference lol.
If Corum's burst holds up he should be fine, he just won't out run anyone. But he can still hit the hole quick and have some big gains.Yeah I read that as kind of an insult? As a Michigan fan I can say Blake has great vision and balance. Those are his gifts. Where he struggles is the speed. He's got the restrictor plate on him. So much so it could be a fatal flaw.I like Blake Corum long term but I'm not sure about the "speed" reference to Brian Robinson being a good thing lol. Neither guy is fast so why highlight it? Odd. They both win without elite speed. Vision and shiftiness and ability to keep running through contact is some of their positives.Jeff Mueller, PT, DPT
Blake Corum with the lateral agility/lane navigation of JK Dobbins and the straight line speed of Brian Robinsonx.com
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Just an odd reference lol.
Yeah I read that as kind of an insult? As a Michigan fan I can say Blake has great vision and balance. Those are his gifts. Where he struggles is the speed. He's got the restrictor plate on him. So much so it could be a fatal flaw.
Sure, I guess best case scenario is he becomes the NFLs all time leading rusher.Yeah I read that as kind of an insult? As a Michigan fan I can say Blake has great vision and balance. Those are his gifts. Where he struggles is the speed. He's got the restrictor plate on him. So much so it could be a fatal flaw.
might lmit his upside but Emmit Smith is in the HOF
Haven’t heard anything. Kind of interesting situations both guys. Tough call.So where are we on this guy? Any news lately?
There's a chance I'll need to choose between him and Jaylen Wright (I own Kyren).
I think it is a very close call between Corum and Wright, but since you roster Kyren, I would think that tips the scales toward Corum.So where are we on this guy? Any news lately?
There's a chance I'll need to choose between him and Jaylen Wright (I own Kyren).
You likely invested a second round pick on Williams. You should draft Corum ahead of ADP to protect that investment. In the King’s Classic Auction draft at the FFExpo I took both Corum and Wright (as well as Vidal). Williams seems injury prone. I’m talking about both Corum and Wright on my podcast tonight. I believe Corum will start the season in a 60/40 split (KW with 60) but any injury could give him the job outright.So where are we on this guy? Any news lately?
There's a chance I'll need to choose between him and Jaylen Wright (I own Kyren).
It's an interesting topic by itself if it's better to draft your handcuff or someone else's? It's an internal debate I've had a few times during drafts the past few weeks.I think it is a very close call between Corum and Wright, but since you roster Kyren, I would think that tips the scales toward Corum.So where are we on this guy? Any news lately?
There's a chance I'll need to choose between him and Jaylen Wright (I own Kyren).
I just did a draft where I was hoping to get Wright (since I held Achane), but 'settled' for Korum. Couldn't believe the Kyren owner had not snatched him up. I'm not normally big on handcuffs, but given the situations it seems prudent with these players.I think it is a very close call between Corum and Wright, but since you roster Kyren, I would think that tips the scales toward Corum.So where are we on this guy? Any news lately?
There's a chance I'll need to choose between him and Jaylen Wright (I own Kyren).
Haven’t heard anything. Kind of interesting situations both guys. Tough call.So where are we on this guy? Any news lately?
There's a chance I'll need to choose between him and Jaylen Wright (I own Kyren).
I think it is a very close call between Corum and Wright, but since you roster Kyren, I would think that tips the scales toward Corum.So where are we on this guy? Any news lately?
There's a chance I'll need to choose between him and Jaylen Wright (I own Kyren).
You likely invested a second round pick on Williams. You should draft Corum ahead of ADP to protect that investment. In the King’s Classic Auction draft at the FFExpo I took both Corum and Wright (as well as Vidal). Williams seems injury prone. I’m talking about both Corum and Wright on my podcast tonight. I believe Corum will start the season in a 60/40 split (KW with 60) but any injury could give him the job outright.So where are we on this guy? Any news lately?
There's a chance I'll need to choose between him and Jaylen Wright (I own Kyren).
For Wright, it might take a little longer but I think he has a shot to earn significant touches at some point this year.
It's an interesting topic by itself if it's better to draft your handcuff or someone else's? It's an internal debate I've had a few times during drafts the past few weeks.I think it is a very close call between Corum and Wright, but since you roster Kyren, I would think that tips the scales toward Corum.So where are we on this guy? Any news lately?
There's a chance I'll need to choose between him and Jaylen Wright (I own Kyren).
Personally I used to be a big advocate of handcuffing my players but have gotten a little away from it in some situations.
In a home league or especially if I'm thin at RB I'm more inclined to take my handcuff. Just want to go a long way towards insuring I got a starter to put out there every week.
In the national type contest and/or if I'm got some decent RB depth I prefer to take someone else's handcuff all things considered.
As for these two RB's neither seem to have any tangible value without an injury, though Corum could help out some Best Ball lineups a few weeks even with Kyren healthy, maybe be a low end RB4 type option-which sometimes you need.
Points for Corum, other then maybe being a RB4 type without injury though this ties into that a little in that he's a safer bet right now because we know he's the clear cut backup, also know he's got a role every week. Wright should be the #3 but it's not a given yet. We also should confidently expect in the event of a Kyren injury for Corum to be a heavily used player who should be pretty close at least to what Kyren's been able to produce, whereas even if Wright is the #3 he'd form a RBBC with whoever is healthy between Mostert or Achane.
The main case IMO to be made for Wright is if he takes the #3 job, as most probably correctly assume, whereas Corum needs an injury to one guy to have value in Wrights case he would in theory need an injury to one of two players so his odds are higher of ascending to weekly role. That role is likely not as strong as Corums in the event of an injury to Kyren, but this is a two RB offense(at least when they got two healthy RB's they like) and it's for sure a role that has upside.
Corum's points win out IMO and in a vacuum he's the one I'd take in redraft(not dynasty).
Can he pass protect? I'm trying to gauge how much of a threat he is to Williams, who is moving way up on my draft board
Seems like most reports are he is a willing if not super effective pass protector. I also found this: Corum didn’t allow a single sack while in pass protection at MichiganCan he pass protect? I'm trying to gauge how much of a threat he is to Williams, who is moving way up on my draft board
60/40 split incomingListed as the starting kick returner.
Easily droppable in every format now.
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Smith is in the HOF because of a HOF line. Otherwise he would have been a JAG.Yeah I read that as kind of an insult? As a Michigan fan I can say Blake has great vision and balance. Those are his gifts. Where he struggles is the speed. He's got the restrictor plate on him. So much so it could be a fatal flaw.
might lmit his upside but Emmit Smith is in the HOF
Emmitt had a great OL, but c'mon man. Dude was a great back. Proven when they tried to roll with Derrick Lassic for a few games instead of pay Emmitt.Smith is in the HOF because of a HOF line. Otherwise he would have been a JAG.Yeah I read that as kind of an insult? As a Michigan fan I can say Blake has great vision and balance. Those are his gifts. Where he struggles is the speed. He's got the restrictor plate on him. So much so it could be a fatal flaw.
might lmit his upside but Emmit Smith is in the HOF
I stand by my comment. If he played for the Colts in the 90s before Manning he’s a JAG.Emmitt had a great OL, but c'mon man. Dude was a great back. Proven when they tried to roll with Derrick Lassic for a few games instead of pay Emmitt.Smith is in the HOF because of a HOF line. Otherwise he would have been a JAG.Yeah I read that as kind of an insult? As a Michigan fan I can say Blake has great vision and balance. Those are his gifts. Where he struggles is the speed. He's got the restrictor plate on him. So much so it could be a fatal flaw.
might lmit his upside but Emmit Smith is in the HOF
Ridiculous, I'm a Lion fan and love Barry but with a game on the line or yards needed Smith was one of the greatest ever. I will never forget watching a game in the 90's, he continued to play with a separated shoulder putting the team on his back.Smith is in the HOF because of a HOF line. Otherwise he would have been a JAG.Yeah I read that as kind of an insult? As a Michigan fan I can say Blake has great vision and balance. Those are his gifts. Where he struggles is the speed. He's got the restrictor plate on him. So much so it could be a fatal flaw.
might lmit his upside but Emmit Smith is in the HOF
I know it's bizarre, but the fact that this kid got jack squat tonight is precisely the reason why I'm finding him indispensable. As long as he's the next man up on an offense that insists on a workhorse role from their #1, how do you not make room on your bench for the guy that would be the next in line?
I know it's bizarre, but the fact that this kid got jack squat tonight is precisely the reason why I'm finding him indispensable. As long as he's the next man up on an offense that insists on a workhorse role from their #1, how do you not make room on your bench for the guy that would be the next in line?
Because if Kyren goes down it looks like Rivers might get the first crack at it. If McVay thought Corum gave them the better chance to win then he would have been on the field tonight instead of Ronnie. There's some real mental gymnastics going on thinking that zero playing time is somehow a positive sign.
I'm gonna hold for now unless I need to make sudden ww moved.They alluded to the fact that Corum doesn't have all the pass blocking protections down. Rams were missing two starting OTs and felt it was more important to have the better pass blocker in there.
So its not a talent thing, its a learning the system thing right now. He obviously needs to learn the system or he'll never see the field.
Didn't they pull him out of their final preseason game?
Is he next man up though?I know it's bizarre, but the fact that this kid got jack squat tonight is precisely the reason why I'm finding him indispensable. As long as he's the next man up on an offense that insists on a workhorse role from their #1, how do you not make room on your bench for the guy that would be the next in line?
This team can recover from anything other than Stafford going down. That’s all you need to knowThey alluded to the fact that Corum doesn't have all the pass blocking protections down. Rams were missing two starting OTs and felt it was more important to have the better pass blocker in there.
So its not a talent thing, its a learning the system thing right now. He obviously needs to learn the system or he'll never see the field.
Yep.Won’t be a fantasy factor…..until he is.
I would think there are better options on the WW in redraft leagues.Yep.Won’t be a fantasy factor…..until he is.
Every year people are way to high on rookies making an impact week 1. They eat up and believe all the hype. Doesn't mean they can't be great long term but not everyone makes an impact week 1.
See Kyren Williams or Zamir White who basically sat their whole first year. Reminds me of all the Tank Bigsby hype last year that he was going to take over, but Etienne ended up getting a massive workload.
These coaches are going to play the veterans - because they have proven it and done it before. There are guys on the roster that are also good RBs who are ahead of them (currently) on the depth chart.
I do believe Corum is a good talent and has the ability to be a 3 down back but he has a lot of work to do before that becomes reality. Sometimes it only takes a month or two, other times it takes a year. Maybe there is something else going on we don't know about and only the coaches do.
I'm still holding in my one redraft league where I have him but I also don't mind cutting bait (for now) and revisiting it week to week. I thought he might get some work this week but it didn't happen. I always take the rookie expectations slow to start the season.
It is a league where almost every backup RB is rostered. I like to collected backup RBs who could become instant starters if something happens to the lead back. I believe Corum has 3-down capabilities if given the chance. I'll hold for a while to see if his usage picks up or not. I didn't have an expectations for him to start other than being a back-up who could at some point be a lead back if given the opportunity.I would think there are better options on the WW in redraft leagues.Yep.Won’t be a fantasy factor…..until he is.
Every year people are way to high on rookies making an impact week 1. They eat up and believe all the hype. Doesn't mean they can't be great long term but not everyone makes an impact week 1.
See Kyren Williams or Zamir White who basically sat their whole first year. Reminds me of all the Tank Bigsby hype last year that he was going to take over, but Etienne ended up getting a massive workload.
These coaches are going to play the veterans - because they have proven it and done it before. There are guys on the roster that are also good RBs who are ahead of them (currently) on the depth chart.
I do believe Corum is a good talent and has the ability to be a 3 down back but he has a lot of work to do before that becomes reality. Sometimes it only takes a month or two, other times it takes a year. Maybe there is something else going on we don't know about and only the coaches do.
I'm still holding in my one redraft league where I have him but I also don't mind cutting bait (for now) and revisiting it week to week. I thought he might get some work this week but it didn't happen. I always take the rookie expectations slow to start the season.
Must be deep rosters, otherwise. handcuffs are expendable IMO. I don't hold players for fear of injuries unless I have plenty of roster space.It is a league where almost every backup RB is rostered. I like to collected backup RBs who could become instant starters if something happens to the lead back. I believe Corum has 3-down capabilities if given the chance. I'll hold for a while to see if his usage picks up or not. I didn't have an expectations for him to start other than being a back-up who could at some point be a lead back if given the opportunity.I would think there are better options on the WW in redraft leagues.Yep.Won’t be a fantasy factor…..until he is.
Every year people are way to high on rookies making an impact week 1. They eat up and believe all the hype. Doesn't mean they can't be great long term but not everyone makes an impact week 1.
See Kyren Williams or Zamir White who basically sat their whole first year. Reminds me of all the Tank Bigsby hype last year that he was going to take over, but Etienne ended up getting a massive workload.
These coaches are going to play the veterans - because they have proven it and done it before. There are guys on the roster that are also good RBs who are ahead of them (currently) on the depth chart.
I do believe Corum is a good talent and has the ability to be a 3 down back but he has a lot of work to do before that becomes reality. Sometimes it only takes a month or two, other times it takes a year. Maybe there is something else going on we don't know about and only the coaches do.
I'm still holding in my one redraft league where I have him but I also don't mind cutting bait (for now) and revisiting it week to week. I thought he might get some work this week but it didn't happen. I always take the rookie expectations slow to start the season.
Just to clarify do you not draft any back-up RBs? He's not my handcuff (I don't own Kyren) but I drafted him late as a bench spot/stash that if he gets an opportunity he could be a starter.Must be deep rosters, otherwise. handcuffs are expendable IMO. I don't hold players for fear of injuries unless I have plenty of roster space.It is a league where almost every backup RB is rostered. I like to collected backup RBs who could become instant starters if something happens to the lead back. I believe Corum has 3-down capabilities if given the chance. I'll hold for a while to see if his usage picks up or not. I didn't have an expectations for him to start other than being a back-up who could at some point be a lead back if given the opportunity.I would think there are better options on the WW in redraft leagues.Yep.Won’t be a fantasy factor…..until he is.
Every year people are way to high on rookies making an impact week 1. They eat up and believe all the hype. Doesn't mean they can't be great long term but not everyone makes an impact week 1.
See Kyren Williams or Zamir White who basically sat their whole first year. Reminds me of all the Tank Bigsby hype last year that he was going to take over, but Etienne ended up getting a massive workload.
These coaches are going to play the veterans - because they have proven it and done it before. There are guys on the roster that are also good RBs who are ahead of them (currently) on the depth chart.
I do believe Corum is a good talent and has the ability to be a 3 down back but he has a lot of work to do before that becomes reality. Sometimes it only takes a month or two, other times it takes a year. Maybe there is something else going on we don't know about and only the coaches do.
I'm still holding in my one redraft league where I have him but I also don't mind cutting bait (for now) and revisiting it week to week. I thought he might get some work this week but it didn't happen. I always take the rookie expectations slow to start the season.
Didn't they pull him out of their final preseason game?
He didn't play at all in the preseason and that got people all giddy, along with the Kyren on punt return news, that this was going to be some 60-40 split.
Now he didn't get a touch in week 1 and that's some how good??
Corum can still get time and be good, but the logical pretzels some people twist themselves into is wild to see.
I do because I only play dynasty, so Corum is an attractive dynasty asset and I play in leagues with ample roster sizes. Even then I’d rather not roster middling backup RBs, only high ceiling guys. In redraft, of course roster high ceiling backup RBs if you have the roster depth. If shallow benches, not so much.Just to clarify do you not draft any back-up RBs? He's not my handcuff (I don't own Kyren) but I drafted him late as a bench spot/stash that if he gets an opportunity he could be a starter.Must be deep rosters, otherwise. handcuffs are expendable IMO. I don't hold players for fear of injuries unless I have plenty of roster space.It is a league where almost every backup RB is rostered. I like to collected backup RBs who could become instant starters if something happens to the lead back. I believe Corum has 3-down capabilities if given the chance. I'll hold for a while to see if his usage picks up or not. I didn't have an expectations for him to start other than being a back-up who could at some point be a lead back if given the opportunity.I would think there are better options on the WW in redraft leagues.Yep.Won’t be a fantasy factor…..until he is.
Every year people are way to high on rookies making an impact week 1. They eat up and believe all the hype. Doesn't mean they can't be great long term but not everyone makes an impact week 1.
See Kyren Williams or Zamir White who basically sat their whole first year. Reminds me of all the Tank Bigsby hype last year that he was going to take over, but Etienne ended up getting a massive workload.
These coaches are going to play the veterans - because they have proven it and done it before. There are guys on the roster that are also good RBs who are ahead of them (currently) on the depth chart.
I do believe Corum is a good talent and has the ability to be a 3 down back but he has a lot of work to do before that becomes reality. Sometimes it only takes a month or two, other times it takes a year. Maybe there is something else going on we don't know about and only the coaches do.
I'm still holding in my one redraft league where I have him but I also don't mind cutting bait (for now) and revisiting it week to week. I thought he might get some work this week but it didn't happen. I always take the rookie expectations slow to start the season.
FTR I have no problem dropping this guy if something better comes up. Definitely need to be flexible but for now I don't mind holding as almost all RBs are gobbled up.
I'd rather roster a back-up RB than a 7th WR that will never see my starting lineup and just clogs my roster. I always fill my bench with backup RBs who have a chance to be league winners if given an opportunity.
Even then I’d rather not roster middling backup RBs, only high ceiling guys.
Didn't they pull him out of their final preseason game?
He didn't play at all in the preseason and that got people all giddy, along with the Kyren on punt return news, that this was going to be some 60-40 split.
Now he didn't get a touch in week 1 and that's some how good??
Corum can still get time and be good, but the logical pretzels some people twist themselves into is wild to see.
The week 1 shutout isn't what I wanted to see for Corum. I would have preferred to see 35% snap share, some splash runs, and buzz for him to overtake Kyren as the #1. However, the fact that it didn't go that way isn't shocking, nor does it mean that hope is lost for Corum to be a thing in fantasy in '24. The fact that McVay leans so heavily into a workhorse role is definitely reason to think twice about cutting the next man up in this backfield. Having said that, there's certainly a scenario where WIlliams goes down this season, and Corum hasn't earned the 3-down workhorse role. However, he's still the clear RB to own even if it starts out as more of a committee than I would have hoped.
There's a good chance Corum isn't the next man up for these next few weeks given the O-line injuries, if pass protection and a veteran's understanding of the offense is what kept him out for week 1. But If we're talking week 8, he's definitely the guy I'm betting on by a wide margin.
I'm also not discounting the possibility of Corum chasing down the lead spot without an injury to Williams. 10 carries combined in the first six weeks, followed by 8 carries, 10 carries, and then 15+ for the rest of the season wouldn't shock me in the least.
I agree, but you have to have to have deep enough rosters. Also, talent is rich enough in 10 team leagues with shallow rosters not to warrant rostering backups.....maybe.Even then I’d rather not roster middling backup RBs, only high ceiling guys.
He's a high ceiling guy.
This is a good point and must be considered when dealing with McVay. Never know what he might do but generally if the guy is on the field starting he's been valueable. Just have to figure out who it is.Didn't they pull him out of their final preseason game?
He didn't play at all in the preseason and that got people all giddy, along with the Kyren on punt return news, that this was going to be some 60-40 split.
Now he didn't get a touch in week 1 and that's some how good??
Corum can still get time and be good, but the logical pretzels some people twist themselves into is wild to see.
The week 1 shutout isn't what I wanted to see for Corum. I would have preferred to see 35% snap share, some splash runs, and buzz for him to overtake Kyren as the #1. However, the fact that it didn't go that way isn't shocking, nor does it mean that hope is lost for Corum to be a thing in fantasy in '24. The fact that McVay leans so heavily into a workhorse role is definitely reason to think twice about cutting the next man up in this backfield. Having said that, there's certainly a scenario where WIlliams goes down this season, and Corum hasn't earned the 3-down workhorse role. However, he's still the clear RB to own even if it starts out as more of a committee than I would have hoped.
There's a good chance Corum isn't the next man up for these next few weeks given the O-line injuries, if pass protection and a veteran's understanding of the offense is what kept him out for week 1. But If we're talking week 8, he's definitely the guy I'm betting on by a wide margin.
I'm also not discounting the possibility of Corum chasing down the lead spot without an injury to Williams. 10 carries combined in the first six weeks, followed by 8 carries, 10 carries, and then 15+ for the rest of the season wouldn't shock me in the least.
We all want Corum to be the backup plan if Kyren goes down because the other guys are absolute JAGs, but the situation was similar last year with Zach Evans and it was a combo of Freeman, Henderson and Rivers who got the nod.
In 10 team leagues I can usually snag a couple starters mid-later in the draft after I have my starting WRs locked up. I agree if I can snag a couple extra starters then I don't have to worry too much about back ups.I agree, but you have to have to have deep enough rosters. Also, talent is rich enough in 10 team leagues with shallow rosters not to warrant rostering backups.....maybe.Even then I’d rather not roster middling backup RBs, only high ceiling guys.
He's a high ceiling guy.
Didn't they pull him out of their final preseason game?
He didn't play at all in the preseason and that got people all giddy, along with the Kyren on punt return news, that this was going to be some 60-40 split.
Now he didn't get a touch in week 1 and that's some how good??
Corum can still get time and be good, but the logical pretzels some people twist themselves into is wild to see.
The week 1 shutout isn't what I wanted to see for Corum. I would have preferred to see 35% snap share, some splash runs, and buzz for him to overtake Kyren as the #1. However, the fact that it didn't go that way isn't shocking, nor does it mean that hope is lost for Corum to be a thing in fantasy in '24. The fact that McVay leans so heavily into a workhorse role is definitely reason to think twice about cutting the next man up in this backfield. Having said that, there's certainly a scenario where WIlliams goes down this season, and Corum hasn't earned the 3-down workhorse role. However, he's still the clear RB to own even if it starts out as more of a committee than I would have hoped.
There's a good chance Corum isn't the next man up for these next few weeks given the O-line injuries, if pass protection and a veteran's understanding of the offense is what kept him out for week 1. But If we're talking week 8, he's definitely the guy I'm betting on by a wide margin.
I'm also not discounting the possibility of Corum chasing down the lead spot without an injury to Williams. 10 carries combined in the first six weeks, followed by 8 carries, 10 carries, and then 15+ for the rest of the season wouldn't shock me in the least.
We all want Corum to be the backup plan if Kyren goes down because the other guys are absolute JAGs, but the situation was similar last year with Zach Evans and it was a combo of Freeman, Henderson and Rivers who got the nod.
With Evans, as much as I had hoped he would get a shot, I think we all (most) would agree Corum has more potential and upside than Evans did. So the example you give is important to consider I would say Corum has higher upside and potential if he's given the starting role.