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What games did you watch to form that opinion?
What games did you watch to form that opinion?
And you consider him average? Every one of those teams that you named were Top 20. Three were top 5 at the time of the game.
5 games
104-502-9 (4.8 ypc) 5-43-1
Or
21.8 touches/game
109 y/g
2 TD/g
That seems like excellent production against superior talent to me. It really seems pedestrian to you? Who played better against that kind of competition?
Kamari Vidal, Troy - A smaller school player who could surprise a lot of people at the next level. He averaged over 21 att/gm last year showing his ability to be a lead back at the next level.
I disagree about the burst. His lateral quickness is top notch. But time will tell.And you consider him average? Every one of those teams that you named were Top 20. Three were top 5 at the time of the game.
5 games
104-502-9 (4.8 ypc) 5-43-1
Or
21.8 touches/game
109 y/g
2 TD/g
That seems like excellent production against superior talent to me. It really seems pedestrian to you? Who played better against that kind of competition?
I agree the production is excellent but it just doesn't seem like he has NFL burst for lack of a better description. I like the vision and durabiity, am concerned about size and burst. Profiles as a JAG to me. Not that , that's terrible. Just not expecting elite metrics or stats at the next level if that makes sense.
I hope the teams in front of me in the draft gobble him up. I’m glad I don’t have a Michigan biasSimply based on the eye test, Corum strikes me as a rather average prospect.
You’re glad now. Let’s see how you feel in December.I hope the teams in front of me in the draft gobble him up. I’m glad I don’t have a Michigan biasSimply based on the eye test, Corum strikes me as a rather average prospect.
If he falls far enough in dynasty drafts, and he probably will, I may end up with a share or two. A lot of players look better if they fall far enough.You’re glad now. Let’s see how you feel in December.I hope the teams in front of me in the draft gobble him up. I’m glad I don’t have a Michigan biasSimply based on the eye test, Corum strikes me as a rather average prospect.
Agreed - every player looks better if he falls far enough.If he falls far enough in dynasty drafts, and he probably will, I may end up with a share or two. A lot of players look better if they fall far enough.You’re glad now. Let’s see how you feel in December.I hope the teams in front of me in the draft gobble him up. I’m glad I don’t have a Michigan biasSimply based on the eye test, Corum strikes me as a rather average prospect.
The great thing about this is that we will know if Corum is average, as you suggest, or starting caliber, as I believe. Just wait 8 months and we will know.Simply based on the eye test, Corum strikes me as a rather average prospect.
Ian Rapoport
The #Rams add to their RB room, selecting #Michigan RB Blake Corum at No. 83.
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McVay on Corum: “One of the things that jumped off is there’s a lot of traits that reminded me of Kyren Williams. Obviously I love Kyren and he’s been so important, and just the human being, but then also when you just look at the way he works at it, the production and the things that he was able to bring to our offense last year, and even really some of the things that he worked through his rookie year. I think there’s a lot of similarities.”
Still think Williams is a strong RB 2, but Corum will eat into his volume, for sure.Awful spot for fantasy. For Williams and Corum
Why? Was Detroit a bad spot for Gibbs and Montgomery? How about Atlanta? Bijan shared with Allgeier.Awful spot for fantasy. For Williams and Corum
Kyren <> Bijan or GibbsWhy? Was Detroit a bad spot for Gibbs and Montgomery? How about Atlanta? Bijan shared with Allgeier.Awful spot for fantasy. For Williams and Corum
Rachaad 267.9 pointsKyren <> Bijan or GibbsWhy? Was Detroit a bad spot for Gibbs and Montgomery? How about Atlanta? Bijan shared with Allgeier.Awful spot for fantasy. For Williams and Corum
"For me, one of the things that jumped off is there's a lot of traits that reminded me of Kyren Williams," McVay told reporters after Corum was drafted at No. 83 overall. "... Obviously, Kyren will put Blake under his arm and be a great mentor and kind of a leader. But, (running backs coach) Ron Gould was really excited about him, (offensive coordinator) Mike LaFleur, I obviously love his game.
"He's got a bunch of tape to be able to evaluate, he's been a part of an incredibly successful program, he's been the bell cow for them in the midst of their successful runs they've had their last few years. And so, we're really looking forward to getting to work with him."
How can Corum see the field as a rookie?
"I think they've got to earn trust," McVay said. "Consistent production, based on the different situations that come up, through all three downs and fourth down. You want to see guys that are productive runners that understand where they're supposed to set blocks at the point of attack and what's the intent of the play. You (want to) see guys that compete without the ball, and he does a great job of competing without the ball in protection.
"I think there's some different things he can do to bring an added element in the passing game, and so, I think it's really just the trust and consistency of what (Gould) is asking snap in and snap out. You've seen a lot of those things that have been on tape for him, and there's a lot of things that you can evaluate that are easier. You see so often these running backs are accepting runs off the offset gun. They're a big under center outfit, taking runs from the pistol, and he does a great job.
"You can see he's at his best when his shoulders are square to the line of scrimmage. (Michigan) does a good job with different run schemes that are easy to evaluate, and you just see the competitive toughness and then as games wear on, it seems like that's when he gets better and better. I just remember even talking to a bunch of our coaches when the College Football Playoff was started and watching him and the impact he had on the Alabama game. That's a tough defense, back and forth, and then in crunch time, in the overtime period, he makes a great run where he's inside and moves it back out and is able to finish it that ultimately ended up being the game-winning play.
"He's had stuff like that show up throughout the course of his career."
Corum was the third running back selected in the draft, behind only Texas' Jonathan Brooks and Florida State's Trey Benson, who went 46th overall and 66th overall to the Carolina Panthers and Arizona Cardinals, respectively.
The first article shows the writer either doesn’t know football or never watched Michigan. While Corum is extremely good in short yardage situations, he is not a power back.
I don't know about McVay loving Akers ever. He felt like he always had 1 foot in the doghouse his entire Rams run.Corum is very intriguing - while Kyren absolutely balled out last year and McVay loves him, we've seen how fluid the Rams RB situation has been since Gurley retired. McVay also loved Akers heading into last year and he was quickly pushed aside. Not that I think Kyren will get anywhere close to that treatment, as he'll likely have a long leash. But one injury or a stretch of underperformance could spearhead a shift to Corum.
He had strong praise for him last offseason: https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2023/06/15/rams-cam-akers-sean-mcvay-offense-starter/I don't know about McVay loving Akers ever. He felt like he always had 1 foot in the doghouse his entire Rams run.Corum is very intriguing - while Kyren absolutely balled out last year and McVay loves him, we've seen how fluid the Rams RB situation has been since Gurley retired. McVay also loved Akers heading into last year and he was quickly pushed aside. Not that I think Kyren will get anywhere close to that treatment, as he'll likely have a long leash. But one injury or a stretch of underperformance could spearhead a shift to Corum.
Kyren is 5'9" and 195 pounds. ETN is 215. I'm not even going to revisit the Walker / Charbs debate. We all know how that went.I put a lot of bytes on the server last year trying to envision the splits between- Etienne/Bigsby (woof), Walker/ Charbs and Herbert/Roschon etc.
In the end, absent injuries, the vets held serve for the most part, especially in the running game. Etienne grew as a player, including his comfort in catching the ball, Bigsby stunk. Walker and Charbs turned out to be close to even in terms of snaps but way slanted to Walker as a runner. Injuries were the main driver for Charbs relevance. And Herbert/ Roschon turned out largely the same- rookie as a change of pace/ passing down guy with many fewer double digit rush games for the younger guys.
The Rams talked up Kyren quite a bit last year (during the year) He was depicted as one of the engines of the team in terms of energy on the broadcasts. They used him a LOT in the passing game (more than I recall seeing out of the Akers/Henderson 22/21 groups). As a smaller back, there's no way they want to put him through 25+ touch games.
Week 13-17- averaged 21.8 carries and 3.17 catches. Week 15 in particular- 27 carries and 5 catches. 195 pounds.
If they give him 15 rushes and 4 targets, he'll hopefully survive the season. Corum is good and will earn his 7-12 rushes.
average projection: 75 yards on the ground, 3.5 catches for 27 yards and .67 TDs- 17.7 ppr points per game- a mid tier RB1.
Just checked against ESPN- he's got him at 17.8 ppr points per game, RB6.
And Kyren already nursing a foot injury.All he needs is a window of opportunity and that may come sooner than later. It's not as if they have a lot invested in Williams. I know the Williams owners don't want to hear that, but IMO it is true that Corum is more of a threat to Kyren Williams' fantasy stock than they want to admit.
I know. That’s the reason I posted what I did.And Kyren already nursing a foot injury.All he needs is a window of opportunity and that may come sooner than later. It's not as if they have a lot invested in Williams. I know the Williams owners don't want to hear that, but IMO it is true that Corum is more of a threat to Kyren Williams' fantasy stock than they want to admit.
I am inclined to agree. Also just read that Kyren was in the bottom 5 at pass pro (forget how many touches to qualify, but there was a minimum # of touches qualifier)No one is a higher upside RB than Corum. Watch the 4th quarter of the Alabama game. The closest any of these RBs came to playing an NFL level defense wa s‘Bama or Michigan. Vidal and Brooks have clearer paths to starting but the Rams have the best run game, both in personnel and scheme.
Blake Corum: Schefter believes that the Rams prefer to keep Kyren Williams around 15 touches per game to protect his body and health over the long season, which is why Schefter believes they took Corum. Schefter expects Corum to be around 8-10 touches per game to take some of that load from Kyren, so keep an eye on Corum getting more work early in the season.
The Rams overused Kyren, and they know it. They prefer to keep Kyren to around 15 touches? In his 12 games played, you know how many times he was used less than 15 times? Once! They had no choice but to use the underweight Kyren, but now they have an option. Blake is my choice for breakout rookie RB.Blake Corum: Schefter believes that the Rams prefer to keep Kyren Williams around 15 touches per game to protect his body and health over the long season, which is why Schefter believes they took Corum. Schefter expects Corum to be around 8-10 touches per game to take some of that load from Kyren, so keep an eye on Corum getting more work early in the season.
https://youtu.be/mZkVawNvT3A
Rumor is Corum is being said to develop a 3 down skill set.. I think this is true, but I wouldn't touch Williams in early rounds right now.The Rams overused Kyren, and they know it. They prefer to keep Kyren to around 15 touches? In his 12 games played, you know how many times he was used less than 15 times? Once! They had no choice but to use the underweight Kyren, but now they have an option. Blake is my choice for breakout rookie RB.Blake Corum: Schefter believes that the Rams prefer to keep Kyren Williams around 15 touches per game to protect his body and health over the long season, which is why Schefter believes they took Corum. Schefter expects Corum to be around 8-10 touches per game to take some of that load from Kyren, so keep an eye on Corum getting more work early in the season.
https://youtu.be/mZkVawNvT3A
Nobody should. But somebody will and that's fine by me.Rumor is Corum is being said to develop a 3 down skill set.. I think this is true, but I wouldn't touch Williams in early rounds right now.The Rams overused Kyren, and they know it. They prefer to keep Kyren to around 15 touches? In his 12 games played, you know how many times he was used less than 15 times? Once! They had no choice but to use the underweight Kyren, but now they have an option. Blake is my choice for breakout rookie RB.Blake Corum: Schefter believes that the Rams prefer to keep Kyren Williams around 15 touches per game to protect his body and health over the long season, which is why Schefter believes they took Corum. Schefter expects Corum to be around 8-10 touches per game to take some of that load from Kyren, so keep an eye on Corum getting more work early in the season.
https://youtu.be/mZkVawNvT3A
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“ ‘On the offensive side, I’ve been pleased with a lot of guys but Blake Corum has really stood out,’ McVay said.
… Corum is going to get his opportunities, too. He said himself that he’ll ‘definitely’ be catching the ball out of the backfield, indicating he could be in for a third-down role as a blocker and receiver in obvious passing situations.”
Lol. Let's see what training camp do. It means nothing now. Kyren will lead the team in touches and Corum will have a role. 70/30.And Kyren already nursing a foot injury.All he needs is a window of opportunity and that may come sooner than later. It's not as if they have a lot invested in Williams. I know the Williams owners don't want to hear that, but IMO it is true that Corum is more of a threat to Kyren Williams' fantasy stock than they want to admit.
Corum is a 2025 play (upside 0 RB in 2024).Lol. Let's see what training camp do. It means nothing now. Kyren will lead the team in touches and Corum will have a role. 70/30.And Kyren already nursing a foot injury.All he needs is a window of opportunity and that may come sooner than later. It's not as if they have a lot invested in Williams. I know the Williams owners don't want to hear that, but IMO it is true that Corum is more of a threat to Kyren Williams' fantasy stock than they want to admit.
I'm not sure that'll be the case. RBs generally have a short viable timeline. Most guys can figure out the playbook pretty quickly, so the deciding factor on whether a RB will play as a rookie is pass protection. If Corum shows he can protect in training camp, he'll get touches in 2024. I project that they have similar touch totals by the end of the season due to Kyren's nagging injuries and worse than average pass pro.Corum is a 2025 play (upside 0 RB in 2024).Lol. Let's see what training camp do. It means nothing now. Kyren will lead the team in touches and Corum will have a role. 70/30.And Kyren already nursing a foot injury.All he needs is a window of opportunity and that may come sooner than later. It's not as if they have a lot invested in Williams. I know the Williams owners don't want to hear that, but IMO it is true that Corum is more of a threat to Kyren Williams' fantasy stock than they want to admit.
Kyren leads the backfield this year. Corum takes over as the 1a in 2025. Corum is more dynamic.
Who is arguing with you? Pretty sure we all think Kyren will lead the backfield to start. Johnny mentioned a "window of opportunity".Corum is a 2025 play (upside 0 RB in 2024).Lol. Let's see what training camp do. It means nothing now. Kyren will lead the team in touches and Corum will have a role. 70/30.And Kyren already nursing a foot injury.All he needs is a window of opportunity and that may come sooner than later. It's not as if they have a lot invested in Williams. I know the Williams owners don't want to hear that, but IMO it is true that Corum is more of a threat to Kyren Williams' fantasy stock than they want to admit.
Kyren leads the backfield this year. Corum takes over as the 1a in 2025. Corum is more dynamic.