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RB Carlos Hyde, JAC (2 Viewers)

If anyone is looking for perspective I just managed to sell Hyde. 12 team, super-flex, PPR redraft.

I had: J.Howard, Hyde, D.Martin, Darkwa, McKinnon, D.Henry & Adbullah.  My WRs were: Julio, Evans, Tyreek & Funchess.

I had been trying to package Hyde for a couple weeks to upgrade at QB (or WR) but everyone countered wanting one of my WRs instead so...

I gave up Hyde and Funchess and I received Michael Thomas (WR, NO).

I now plan to try and use a WR to upgrade at QB.

I still love Hyde ROS but for whatever reason, regardless of his production he has been tough to sell.

HTH

 
Chaka said:
If anyone is looking for perspective I just managed to sell Hyde. 12 team, super-flex, PPR redraft.

I had: J.Howard, Hyde, D.Martin, Darkwa, McKinnon, D.Henry & Adbullah.  My WRs were: Julio, Evans, Tyreek & Funchess.

I had been trying to package Hyde for a couple weeks to upgrade at QB (or WR) but everyone countered wanting one of my WRs instead so...

I gave up Hyde and Funchess and I received Michael Thomas (WR, NO).

I now plan to try and use a WR to upgrade at QB.

I still love Hyde ROS but for whatever reason, regardless of his production he has been tough to sell.

HTH
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Great deal for you. I'd like Hyde a lot and I would give that up for Thomas.

 
kutta said:
Great deal for you. I'd like Hyde a lot and I would give that up for Thomas.
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I'm thrilled with the deal (wouldn't have made it otherwise) but I feel that Carlos Dangerfield just doesn't get any respect. All the rumors about being traded, ceding time to Breida (or Mostert), not fitting the scheme, not being a Shanahan guy or Hightower coming back in etc. etc. etc.

But he has had one dud game, is the #9 RB in my league, is an every down back and I have no reason to believe we should expect a drop off.  I shopped the hell out of him, had maybe eight offers out there for various QBs & WRs and it was amazing how little people were willing to part with.  Draft position really ruled the day in discussing trades with people. "It's week 7 I don't care if Jordy Nelson was your second round pick and Hyde was a fifth round pick! Aaron Rodgers just went down for the year and your RBs are Crowell, McGuire and Jonathan Freaking Stewart!!!" "NO?!?!!? Hey Vonnegut, can you read lips..." Sorry, I'm rolling.

Whatever, something is only worth what someone will pay for it and I have learned over the years that you have to throw out a ton of offers if you want to learn the true value of your players.

 
FreeBaGeL said:
It's not a madden franchise.  The incentive to play vets is that 7-9 is a lot better for Shanahan's job security going forward than 2-14 is.  This is a team that's lost 5 straight games by 3 points or less.  They're not as bad as their record indicates.
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Shanahan and Lynch both signed 6 years contracts to re-build from scorched earth.

 
Anyone want to guess what Hyde does this week against Dallas?  Sean Lee is back, so the Dallas D gets a boost right? 

I'm in a full point PPR league and have been going back and forth between Howard and Hyde mainly because the Breida sharing carries hot hand approach could come back this week.  

 
Gotta tellya, as much as I enjoy watching Hyde run, and as much as I accepted some risk with the 9ers, I'm not really lovin' how this is going. Beathard comes in, looks every part the overmatched rookie he is, Jimmy G gets traded for (yeay) but Shanny says he can't guarantee he'll play this year (huh?), and then Garçon goes out for the year. 

 
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SaintsInDome2006 said:
Gotta tellya, as much as I enjoy watching Hyde run, and as much as I accepted some risk with the 9ers, I'm not really lovin' how this is going. Beathard comes in, looks every part the overmatched rookie he is, Jimmy G gets traded for (yeay) but Shanny says he can't guarantee he'll play this year (huh?), and then Garçon goes out for the year. 
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Hell, I would sit Garoppolo too, and start fresh next season with a VERY high first round pick.

 
Carlos Hyde was ejected late in the fourth quarter Week 9 against the Cardinals for fighting.

Hyde did not do much in a scrum following a late hit on C.J. Beathard, but he was ejected anyway. He racked up 41 yards on 12 carries and 84 yards on a team-high nine catches before being tossed, with several of those receptions coming as the 49ers were in comeback mode late in the game. Hyde also could have had a touchdown, but he was vultured at the goal line by Beathard. Assuming he is not suspended -- it would be a miscarriage of justice if he was -- Hyde will be a good play against a struggling Giants defense next week.
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Looks like Hyde not having great game and Brenda has better stats.

anyone watching this game care to provide an update?

 
Carlos Hyde rushed 16 times for 25 yards in the 49ers' Week 15 win over the Titans, adding two receptions for 14 additional yards.

It was one of Hyde's 2-3 worst games of the season, but the 49ers rode Jimmy Garoppolo's arm to a narrow victory. Hyde's stats have been worse since Garoppolo took over, which is surprising since the 49ers' offense has been much smoother overall. One of the main reasons for Hyde's statistical downtick is that Garoppolo isn't checking down to him nearly as often as Brian Hoyer and C.J. Beathard did. Hyde has only five catches in three games with Garoppolo at quarterback. Hyde will be a low-end RB2 for Week 16 against the Jaguars.
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Faust said:
It was one of Hyde's 2-3 worst games of the season, 
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In fairness, the Titans are the 2nd best defense against the run this year. And 4th best against RBs in fantasy. So can't really hold that against Hyde too much. 

 
Faust said:
It was one of Hyde's 2-3 worst games of the season, 
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In fairness, the Titans are the 2nd best defense against the run this year. And 4th best against RBs in fantasy. So can't really hold that against Hyde too much. 

 
Hyde has lost the check down receptions with Garrapolo.  Need more TDs to offset.  Maybe (hopefully) this week.  Meanwhile, Gould is gold...

 
The Sacramento Bee's Matt Barrows believes the odds are higher free agent Carlos Hyde leaves the 49ers.

The Niners didn't seem all that committed to Hyde throughout coach Kyle Shanahan's first year in charge. Hyde's week-to-week usage was flippy-floppy at best as he lost reps to UDFA Matt Breida, and Hyde's receiving numbers really fell off once Jimmy Garoppolo took over under center. However, Hyde did have some solid rushing days -- 14-78-1 and 15-90-2 -- with Garoppolo. We tend to side with Barrows here; Hyde can likely command more outside of San Fran.

Source: Sacramento Bee 

Jan 31 - 10:56 AM
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So how much do we think Hyde will generate in the open market? The only recent comps I could find that seemed relevant were Latavius Murray last year (3yrs/15mm) and Lamar Miller the year before (4/26), and Miller was only 24 at the time so that may not be that relevant. 

With all the RB talent that was added via the draft last year and this year I would be surprised if Hyde gets much more than Murray did last year, even though I think he is a much more talented back.

Is is that much of a stretch to think he stays put in SF? He played well last year, considering the dreck the O was before JG. He knows the system and SF has tons of cap space. Shanahan got "his guy" in the draft last year so will he want to spend another pick this year if they let Hyde walk? Resign Hyde at around 5mm/per to go with Breida and Joe Williams and cross RB off your offseason to do list.

 
I think it's very important that San Fran focuses on putting quality talent around Jimmy G...they look like they have solved the NFL's biggest mystery (getting a good QB) now they have to put him in the best position to be successful...a piece of that will be the backfield (with O line being the most important)...if they let Hyde go they need to make sure they are adding another piece or two...a backfield of Brieda and Williams has a ton of room for error...doesn't mean they can't produce but it does mean they need to add a solid vet or two or a rookie with a lot of upside...the only thing San Fran should be worrying about this offseason is Jimmy G's growth...get that squared away and everything else will eventually fall into place...

 
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Boston said:
I think it's very important that San Fran focuses on putting quality talent around Jimmy G...they look like they have solved the NFL's biggest mystery (getting a good QB) now they have to put him in the best position to be successful...a piece of that will be the backfield (with O line being the most important)...if they let Hyde go they need to make sure they are adding another piece or two...a backfield of Brieda and Williams has a ton of room for error...doesn't mean they can't produce but it does mean they need to add a solid vet or two or a rookie with a lot of upside...the only thing San Fran should be worrying about this offseason is Jimmy G's growth...get that squared away and everything else will eventually fall into place...
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Which is why I think it makes sense to resign Hyde. If he is a fit for Shanahan. And if he doesn't cost too much.

 
kneeshooter said:
Which is why I think it makes sense to resign Hyde. If he is a fit for Shanahan. And if he doesn't cost too much.
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If not Hyde than someone around his caliber...I think he is a quality RB but if there is something about him they don't like or if he is trying to break the bank I understand moving on from him but they need to bring someone in that solidifies that position...

 
Boston said:
If not Hyde than someone around his caliber...I think he is a quality RB but if there is something about him they don't like or if he is trying to break the bank I understand moving on from him but they need to bring someone in that solidifies that position...
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If that happens, Jeremy Hill would seem an ideal fit. Or McKinnon if shanny wants more of a receiving back.

 
-OZ- said:
If that happens, Jeremy Hill would seem an ideal fit. Or McKinnon if shanny wants more of a receiving back.
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I like Hill too...another guy that I think is just under valued.  The bengals should have never drafted mixon because they had a top 25% back already

 
Cenobite said:
Could be a nice fit on the Giants.  Oline awful but I think Hyde can still put up good numbers. 
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Could be, certainly fills a need.

But for his owners, hopefully their rival will decide to give Alex Smith some support by signing him.

 
Indy has a lot of money to work with, and Hyde is an upgrade over Gore and Mack. If Luck comes back healthy and they actually draft some O-linemen, he could do well there.

 
Not sure I agree that Hyde is much more talented than Latavius.

I like Hyde, a lot, and I loved him going into this season with Shanahan as his HC but he was...okay, I guess.

He finished RB#10 on the season, which is awesome ROI for where I drafted him but that really was more of a volume result than IRL NFL production (monster week 17 against a Rams team resting key players too). He had 3.9 ypc, 5.9 ypr and...I find that disappointing. Maybe he just isn't a fit for Shanny's scheme.

 
Chaka said:
Not sure I agree that Hyde is much more talented than Latavius.

I like Hyde, a lot, and I loved him going into this season with Shanahan as his HC but he was...okay, I guess.

He finished RB#10 on the season, which is awesome ROI for where I drafted him but that really was more of a volume result than IRL NFL production (monster week 17 against a Rams team resting key players too). He had 3.9 ypc, 5.9 ypr and...I find that disappointing. Maybe he just isn't a fit for Shanny's scheme.
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I think you need to take into account who was in Shanahan's offense this past year...this was not a Shanahan offense firing on all cylinders...it will be getting more talented the next few years...

 
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I think you need to take into account who was in Shanahan's offense this past year...this was not a Shanahan offense firing on all cylinders...it will be getting more talented the next few years...
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Agree. They will upgrade the interior line in free agency and possibly an early draft pick, along with hopefully getting Garnett back healthy and in better condition. Plus, having Garoppolo for a full season will open things up.  

He says he wants to stay in SF but don’t see it happening mainly because he isn’t a very good receiver.  He got a lot of dump offs that padded his numbers before Garoppolo got there but Shanahan wants a Freeman type back that can actually run routes and catch the ball in stride down the field.  Hyde doesn’t have that skill.  

 
All I've seen is 3-year worth "more than $15M"... if it isn't much more than $15M, then it's probably similar to Latavius Murray's contract (given the increase in cap this year) which didn't stop the Vikings from drafting Cook last year. So Hyde's job might not be that safe. Kind of surprised he didn't get more, but I haven't seen any of the other contracts, either (Dion or Crowell). 

 
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