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RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire, KC (2 Viewers)
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Hot Sauce Guy
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barackdhouse
Footballguy
Yeah he looked elusive as heck. I thought he looked great and just needs to learn to go down better.
Is this a point-per-falling-down-purposely-at-the-goal-line league? If so, not nearly enough!
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Is this a point-per-falling-down-purposely-at-the-goal-line league? If so, not nearly enough!
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I'm not saying that's what happened here but you've really never seen that? Ahmad Bradshaw did in a SuperBowl once on the biggest stage. There was at least three times I can remember players stopping at the one and falling down to run clock - and that's without really thinking about it.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’ve seen the “fall down instead of score” far more often than the “let the other team score” strategy. The latter is far more rare IMO.
Smokin Okie
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
Great game last night except for getting stuffed about ten times inside the ten, six-seven times inside the five. Those are a lot of points left on the board there. Will Andy Reid keep running straight ahead plays with him if that keeps up and they're not in blowouts?
That was no good. But lots to love in terms of elusiveness. He's a hybrid. Bigger than a scat back, too small for a power back. We'll see how he holds up.
That was no good. But lots to love in terms of elusiveness. He's a hybrid. Bigger than a scat back, too small for a power back. We'll see how he holds up.
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rockaction
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I'd be stunned if he doesn't see more targets, but it looked like Houston was all over KC's screen and swing attempts, even those to the WR Robinson and other RB Darrel Williams. You could see them flock to the back or outlet. Which just means you get beat handily with Kelce and Watkins over the middle and in the seam, which is what happened.
Are there any other considerations, like salary cap, keeper spots/contract years, etc? If it's standard dynasty seems like a no-brainer, although you may have to deal some of those parts to truly max out the value.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
not with the rest of that package. Burrow & Ridley aren't scrubs, and he gets a future 1st!
I also have to assume the team willing to make that deal may not finish with the best of records in 2020.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
for....?
Is it a minimum keeper format? Do you lose anything by acquiring all those guys? Can you not keep them all? There has to be some reason you're waiting here.
rockaction
Footballguy
Huh. Mixon just signed an extension. When I tried to shop the 1.01, nobody bit even though we all knew it was CEH. This is exactly what I was looking for. YMMV of course, but I would also smash accept. Good luck regardless.
Smokin Okie
Footballguy
You are correct. The team making the deal is not going to be very good so there's a good chance that 1st turns into a top 3 pick. You keep 10 players every year. No contracts or salary cap or anything like that.
I think CEH looked great last night but I think it's time to cash out as his value might be as high as it's going to go. Plus if he keeps falling down on purpose at the goal line he will never reach his full potential!! LOL
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
lol - not every game will they be up 2 scores with 2 mins to go. I’d be willing to bet he scores there if the game is on the line.
More importantly why are you wasting precious time typing a post to me when you could be smashing accept?
”high as it’s going to go” is an understatement. You’re looking at a serviceable replacement RB, a future WR1 and a potential future QB1 AND a top ~6 draft pick?
Boggles my mind how you’ve not accepted it yet.
I-ROK
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Whoa. Finally something everyone at FBG can agree on!
....except of course dude who received that trade offer.
I-ROK
Footballguy
There is no player in fantasy that I would decline that offer for. That is an overpay for CEH by about the value of Mixon!Whoa. Finally something everyone at FBG can agree on!
....except of course dude who received that trade offer.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Exactly as I saw it. If someone offered me Mixon+Ridley for CEH I’d probably strongly consider it.
Burrow+Mixon would likely also get it done.
Add in that 2021 1.xx pick and it’s a slam dunk.
But to get ALL that tasty goodness in one package?
As you said - there isn’t a player in the game I wouldn’t click accept for that.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Yeah I have Barkley and CEH on one team, Zeke and McC on another, and Kamara and Cook in another. It wouldn’t be a no-brainer smash accept for any of them besides CEH (maybe Zeke) for any of those but I’d come to my senses quick and accept. The odds of “winning” that trade are just so much in your favor. Mixon isn’t far behind any of these guys - especially with what that offense could become.
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Smokin Okie
Footballguy
My patience is paying off man lol. Another team offered Lamar, Akers, and a #1 next year (has a good chance of being #1 overall pick). Let the bidding war begin! Those would be the only two teams in the league that will probably make offers though.Whoa. Finally something everyone at FBG can agree on!
....except of course dude who received that trade offer.
The CEH hype is out of control. A deal will be made shortly either way. Anyone else getting crazy offers for him? I've never really seen anything like this.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Smokin Okie
Footballguy
Those two guys are def a little crazy. No doubt. I accepted offer #1.
Trade him while hes hot!
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Mixon, Ridley, Burrow & a 2021 1.xx?I'm going to try to top it LOL
No crazy offers have come my way yet, but I just sent a message to everyone saying keep the CEH offers coming. I will move him for the right deal. Marketing 101
Unpossible.
TwinTurbo
Footballguy
Yes agreed. I was not as bullish on him as others prior to this game and it's a long season, but he looked great in game 1. Really nice start for the rookie.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
All these interviews (Reid, CEH, Kelce, Tyrann) were all a pretty good listen and everyone has great things to say about CEH.
https://www.chiefs.com/video/tyrann-mathieu-i-m-so-impressed-with-that-young-man-week-1-press-conference
Reid stated there was no plan to give him x amount of carries, but just want to play a balanced run and boss offense to keep things open.
https://www.chiefs.com/video/tyrann-mathieu-i-m-so-impressed-with-that-young-man-week-1-press-conference
Reid stated there was no plan to give him x amount of carries, but just want to play a balanced run and boss offense to keep things open.
Smokin Okie
Footballguy
All it takes is one guy to step up!! It could happen lolMixon, Ridley, Burrow & a 2021 1.xx?
Unpossible.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
He said it's a 10 keeper league.Exactly as I saw it. If someone offered me Mixon+Ridley for CEH I’d probably strongly consider it.
Burrow+Mixon would likely also get it done.
Add in that 2021 1.xx pick and it’s a slam dunk.
But to get ALL that tasty goodness in one package?
As you said - there isn’t a player in the game I wouldn’t click accept for that.
Still a great offer but Burrow is a cut next off-season (and likely never starts for him this yr) in a keep 10, one qb league. Keeping Ridley will require cutting another strong player as well.
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Yes, I read that.
10 is a lot. Why would Burrow be a cut? And Ridley is an ascending player.
weird take.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Agree to disagree. If Burrow turns out to be something special he will most certainly be worth more than a kicker.
Regardless that package was good enough without Burrow.
1.xx pick, Ridley & Mixon get it done IMO.
The Finist
Footballguy
In a 10 team league i dont think it was that great of a deal. And one i typically try to avoid.
Ive found you want elite players in small leagues. CEH isnt that yet, but i think he has the highest probability of becoming that out of all the players involved. QBs mean less in small leagues. Its easier to get WRs of Ridleys calibur. And that trading potential studs for 3 mediocre guys is a great way to not win.
It could work out, but i dont see slam dunk. In a 12+ team league its a much better deal and i get that. Jmo.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
who said it was a 10-team league? He said it was a keep 10 league. I don’t see that anywhere.
I believe it is a 12-teamer.
also Mixon isn’t an elite player? Might wanna tell the 85,000,000 teams that made him a late 1st/early 2nd that.
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kittenmittens
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Sure, just explaining why Burrow is a drop in that format. Unless he goes all LJax or Mahomes of course.
Agree that it's still a smash accept, just not quite as insane as we originally thought haha.
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The Finist
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In a 10 team keeper its a mixon for CEH deal. Id rather CEH. I could fill QB and WR with Burrow or Ridley equiv pretty ez.who said it was a 10-team league? He said it was a keep 10 league. I don’t see that anywhere.
I believe it is a 12-teamer.
also Mixon isn’t an elite player? Might wanna tell the 85,000,000 teams that made him a late 1st/early 2nd that.
Unless like another poster said, burrow becomes a mahomes type.
Agreed, it really depends on the rest of his roster. Burrow is a very likely cut if his other QB is Mahomes, Jackson, etc., but maybe not if it's Brees, Rodgers, etc. Same with Ridley- very likely a keeper but could be a small or large upgrade over the guy he has to now cut instead.
10 is a decent amount of keepers, but not the same as dynasty so it changes things some.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Yeah when I thought it was a no brainer I thought it was a full dynasty. This surely changes things.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
I think it still is a good deal, but I might not obliterate my finger and the mouse in the process of accepting.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Didn't it include a likely early 2021 1st too?
Still a very strong offer in that case but guys like Burrow and Ridley in that format as others have said are easy to replace and you have to factor in the strong players that will have to be cut to keep them as if they were part of the trade as well.
In keeper leagues the guys that generally have success are the ones that typically make offers like this. Ones that look like "Holy crap that's an insane offer" type deals but are really much more modest downgrades when you consider the value of the keeper spots opened up as part of the deal.
Still a very strong offer in that case but guys like Burrow and Ridley in that format as others have said are easy to replace and you have to factor in the strong players that will have to be cut to keep them as if they were part of the trade as well.
In keeper leagues the guys that generally have success are the ones that typically make offers like this. Ones that look like "Holy crap that's an insane offer" type deals but are really much more modest downgrades when you consider the value of the keeper spots opened up as part of the deal.
I-ROK
Footballguy
Yes that’s an easy decline. Even if you don’t believe in CEH, his value is way higher
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
And although I own Evans in one league and will most likely ride him out, there’s a very good chance his value declines by the end of the season as I don’t think he’s a great fit with Brady. I hope he scores enough TDs to make up for the probable decline in catches and yards.
