RB Derrick Henry, BAL (7 Viewers)

[RaidersAreOne]

Have no idea of their cap situation but this guy in Baltimore makes too much sense, the Ravens could really win a title with him

Henry screams Raven imo. He'd look absolutely menacing in the all black uni w/ a visor.

Do it for the jersey sales!!!

 

[bolldpt]

I could see Cleveland but he would look pretty BA in purple and black

 

[Terpman22]

Have no idea of their cap situation but this guy in Baltimore makes too much sense, the Ravens could really win a title with him

I just can't see why they would keep him around in Tennessee anymore. They'd be doing him a favor sending him to Baltimore and I'm pretty sure he would immediately fit in with their locker room. Always full of vets in Baltimore...

Well, he is a big part of why fans buy tickets and his jersey sells. Thats two reasons to keep him He is and has been the face of the franchise. Seems like a Vrabel guy. Lots of reasons to keep and only one reason to move. That move is strictly good business. Hard to know what they do here. Would there ever be a real market for a trade?

He’s not the same player but probably on par with CMC for impact this year for a contender. So, yeah. There’s a market.
It looks like Achane will return so Miami is probably out. But Baltimore would be scary with him. Cook hasn’t been great but I don’t see Buffalo trading for him.

What about the Rams? I would think if they trade Henry he would go to the NFC

I'm not to keen on the Rams, but they seem a mess with the cap and draft picks, so I just can't see it happening without digging in any further.

 

[Bri]

Remember in the spring, the new GM wanted to trade Byard and upset everyone and issued a statement he wouldn't do so. Then he about forced him to take a pay cut if he wanted to stay. No one liked the new guy treating the gem this way.

The Titans have really taken a hit trading a perennial top player for peanuts to Philly. There's been people cutting up jerseys, selling season tickets, spray painting/vandalism, a zillion social media posts.
Today the national media keeps using the term fleeced- Eagles fleeced the Titans.
More outrage is expected tonight and then (radio shows I listen to) probably it dies down from there. Maybe Sunday some bad secondary play leads to outrage again but for the most part all down hill from tomorrow.

There's also an untrue story that Byard's high school (in Ten) was closed today.

Titans issued a statement asking everyone to please be understanding.

I've never seen a reaction like this. Ever.

I'll post another, just...I think there's some context needed

 

[-OZ-]

Remember in the spring, the new GM wanted to trade Byard and upset everyone and issued a statement he wouldn't do so. Then he about forced him to take a pay cut if he wanted to stay. No one liked the new guy treating the gem this way.

The Titans have really taken a hit teasing a perennial top player for peanuts to Philly. There's been people cutting up jerseys, selling season tickets, spray painting/vandalism, a zillion social media posts.
Today the national media keeps using the term fleeced- Eagles fleeced the Titans.
More outrage is expected tonight and then (radio shows I listen to) probably it dies down from there. Maybe Sunday some bad secondary play leads to outrage again but for the most part all down hill from tomorrow.

There's also an untrue story that Byard's high school (in Ten) was closed today.

Titans issued a statement asking everyone to please be understanding.

I've never seen a reaction like this. Ever.

I'll post another, just...I think there's some context needed

Fwiw while Byard is fantastic, I think Edmonds can be solid although not the best in coverage. Byard was (probably) leaving after the season anyway.

 

[Bri]

The fifth and sixth and failed first round draft pick of the Steelers was a pathetic return.

The RB market stinks and should not yield a good return for Henry.

I do not care that Bijan is on the Falcons. Henry and Arthur are BFFs and he would definitely trade for him. The Falcons are in town as the Titans next opponent. There is no way he's a Falcon but I have no doubt they make an offer n discuss Algeier or idk whoever by trade. No doubt. Arthur loves him like no other.

Arthur is adored in TEN and the offense has stunk since he left. Everyone knows he had their DC, Pees, til recently too. They have a lot of former Titans on their roster.

Idk what, but there will definitely be an impact from this game. Arthur's team looks great ours looks like poo, clean house. Fire Vrabel and Ran.

Arthur's team looks dysfunctional too so we're not alone.

Why did we cut that guy doing well for them? It could be anything but it is definitely a BIG game.

Also, the Titans are supposedly being cute and playing both inexperienced QBs.

Did I mention Byard was the only one athletic enough to cover Pitts? Ooof this could be a bad bad day to be the GM of the Titans.


Anywho...Tim Kelly has been not using Henry and getting in trouble then using Henry every other week. The offense has paralleled that looking serviceable and awful.

Spears hasn't proven he can be a between the tackles hard yardage runner. He's shown a flash n speed type. They loved Chestnut but he's hurt. They just released Patrick, another big bruiser back to sign Ward another third down back ST back.
I don't think a Henry trade is coming unless it's so good it defies the market.
I think he plays a couple more years, then his jersey is the first hung with a ceremony in the new stadium.

Again, the Titans had a ton of Hawaii fans for Marcus which curiously traveled well. When the Rams left, a lot of STL people became Titans fans and both have left so they've taken a huge hit in incoming $ before opening a stadium and probably a little nervous

 

[-OZ-]

Fire Vrabel and Ran.

Sorry man, but not yet. Maybe in 2025.

 

[Sunday Gravy]

This guy on Dallas would be VERY interesting.

 

[Bri]

This guy on Dallas would be VERY interesting.

I bet their linemen suddenly all get healthy. Half joking.
I still think he's a big commodity.
1500 yards and he was the most hit RB behind the LOS. The hits number was very close to the carry number. Who can do that? Behind a good line, maybe that's 2k? I don't know. 2k seems to much but 500 over the season to simply have a normal amount of hits behind the LOS doesn't.
He's been like flipping on a switch this year with this every other game stuff.

I think the Cowboys could use him well. They adore Pollard and it could be messy.
I think the Bengals need him badly and they can probably afford to give up a tackle that the Titans would want. Mixon is wearing down and if they can allow Burrow to just hand off a lot...Henry could be just what that team needs.
LaFleur probably has interest due to familiarity and since AJ hasn't become Henry and Jones is always hurt.... probably not.

I like the New England conspiracy theories. They're so fun. Vrabel was so happy to be back and honored to get that red jacket. Belichick could be gone or an advisor. What if the Pats trade for a bunch of these Titans and Vrabel is their coach next year?

 

[Faust]

Derrick Henry trade rumors: Cowboys, Bills, Ravens among best fits if Titans deal veteran RB at deadline.

 

[RenegadeRoy]

Henry on the Ravens would be nuts.

 

[ZADO]

Real football isnt Fantasy football , these types of trades rarely happen no matter how cool it would be

 

[RenegadeRoy]

Real football isnt Fantasy football , these types of trades rarely happen no matter how cool it would be

I tend to agree, but also I feel like the CMC trade last year might've cracked the mold a bit (but to your point: rare). RBs are the easiest to move mid-season because they can help a team immediately. There's certainly some smoke in TEN in regards to Henry moving: dead end season, end of his contract, TEN apparently in firesale mode, etc.

 

[ZADO]

Real football isnt Fantasy football , these types of trades rarely happen no matter how cool it would be

I tend to agree, but also I feel like the CMC trade last year might've cracked the mold a bit (but to your point: rare). RBs are the easiest to move mid-season because they can help a team immediately. There's certainly some smoke in TEN in regards to Henry moving: dead end season, end of his contract, TEN apparently in firesale mode, etc.

As a Henry owner id love the Ravens (no competition for touches) or Dallas (Hes the thunder and Pollard is the lightening)

 

[eighsse2]

As a Spears dynasty owner, I can think of 31 teams that would be a perfect fit.

ETA: Make that 26. I forgot I have other RB's.

 

[Bri]

Henry looked angry when asked if he wanted to be traded then followed up with if he wants to go to a team better suited to win a Superbowl

 

[Smack Tripper]

Henry looked angry when asked if he wanted to be traded then followed up with if he wants to go to a team better suited to win a Superbowl

Where was this?

 

[ZADO]

Henry looked angry when asked if he wanted to be traded then followed up with if he wants to go to a team better suited to win a Superbowl

Doesn't everyone?

 

[crushedspirit]

When asked Tuesday about whether he’d want to go play for a Super Bowl contender, he sharpened his glare: “Have I said anything like that?”

“I’m going to believe in myself if nobody does,” Henry went on to say. “I’m confident in myself. … That’s how I’ve always been.”

 

[Bri]

Henry looked angry when asked if he wanted to be traded then followed up with if he wants to go to a team better suited to win a Superbowl

Where was this?

Pretty much every reporter shared it on Twitter.
Full pressers are on the Titans site

 

[Bri]

Two days of rest this week on the injury report

Tea leaves say don't read into tea leaves

 

[Bri]

Normal rest

 

[ZADO]

If he plays a normal touch ratio Sunday than i cant see a trade coming, but if hes barely in the game then hes probably gone next week , going to be interesting

 

[Bri]

If he plays a normal touch ratio Sunday than i cant see a trade coming, but if hes barely in the game then hes probably gone next week , going to be interesting

Nope. Following Kelly's stupid every other week timeline he is on a down week.

Titans fans are hoping Vrabel blew this up during the bye since he corrected him three times previously but...ya can't read into his usage

 

[Bri]

I don't see teams with a big role for him. Surely he can come in, takeover, and be the King, but...
Wouldn't you take Cook at a cheaper rate than Henry?
The issue I have is they both need many carries to get going. Henry is getting better at making the best of it some weeks but in general. I think teams gotta consider the carry number if they're acquiring Henry.

 

[jobarules]

I don't see teams with a big role for him. Surely he can come in, takeover, and be the King, but...
Wouldn't you take Cook at a cheaper rate than Henry?
The issue I have is they both need many carries to get going. Henry is getting better at making the best of it some weeks but in general. I think teams gotta consider the carry number if they're acquiring Henry.

Cook is washed up. Henry isnt. Henry can help a team that likes to run the ball and play defense win a Super Bowl. Baltimore, Cleveland, & Dallas all fit that criteria.

 

[Bri]

I don't see teams with a big role for him. Surely he can come in, takeover, and be the King, but...
Wouldn't you take Cook at a cheaper rate than Henry?
The issue I have is they both need many carries to get going. Henry is getting better at making the best of it some weeks but in general. I think teams gotta consider the carry number if they're acquiring Henry.

Cook is washed up. Henry isnt. Henry can help a team that likes to run the ball and play defense win a Super Bowl. Baltimore, Cleveland, & Dallas all fit that criteria.

Ok if you think Cook is washed up, but those are shared roles with teams.
What about getting Henry the carries he needs to get rolling?

 

[jobarules]

I don't see teams with a big role for him. Surely he can come in, takeover, and be the King, but...
Wouldn't you take Cook at a cheaper rate than Henry?
The issue I have is they both need many carries to get going. Henry is getting better at making the best of it some weeks but in general. I think teams gotta consider the carry number if they're acquiring Henry.

Cook is washed up. Henry isnt. Henry can help a team that likes to run the ball and play defense win a Super Bowl. Baltimore, Cleveland, & Dallas all fit that criteria.

Ok if you think Cook is washed up, but those are shared roles with teams.
What about getting Henry the carries he needs to get rolling?

A team trading for him isnt looking to get him 2000 yards rushing, just win a Super Bowl. Hes averaging 4.3 YPC at 14 carries a game. That should suffice and on a better team (like the 3 mentioned) that YPC would improve.

 

[zoonation]

I bet he stays in Ten.

 

[RenegadeRoy]

What about getting Henry the carries he needs to get rolling?

I think part of this is that the remainder of the Titans offense is not great, so you need to crash Henry into the defense a dozen times to soften them up and/or make a few actual good pass plays to get the defense to move out of the box. On a more balanced offense I think Henry will be able to do more with less touches.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Baltimore needs him as I keep thinking, Lamar seems to get overwhelmed in the playoffs so often, would be great to have a steady, dependable guy to trust and account for. Would really open things up for him a Gus Edwards isn’t

 

[Dizzy]

Any contender could use a Derrick Henry.

If BUF had Henry las night that game never gets close. He would have been converting 1st downs and closing that game out. In fact if Chris Godwin was paying attention CLE TBB steals that one in walk off fashion.

IMO Henry would dramatically affect the Bills chances of winning a Super Bowl this year (which right now I see as very low). Allen is hurt so they are not going to be using him to convert short yardage and Cook... well... he's not Dalvin Cook... and barely a notch above Sam Cooke.

 

[ZADO]

So an internet fan site called Titan sized says they think arrows are pointing at Henry and perhaps Hopkins are going to be on the trading block based on the fact that both players suspiciously missed practice multiple days this week on rest designation , while it does happen its rare coming off a bye and also needing extra work to get in sync with a new QB. They are just putting 2 and 2 together .

 

[Ilov80s]

So an internet fan site called Titan sized says they think arrows are pointing at Henry and perhaps Hopkins are going to be on the trading block based on the fact that both players suspiciously missed practice multiple days this week on rest designation , while it does happen its rare coming off a bye and also needing extra work to get in sync with a new QB. They are just putting 2 and 2 together .

The Titans might be trying for a trade but I am not sure it happens. Trades are pretty rare in the NFL.

 

[Rubi]

I'm not a fan of them,but The King would look real nice in Raven Purple.

 

[King of the Jungle]

So many teams would benefit from trading for him.

BUF, DAL, BAL seem like the top options for teams that need to add another dimension to push them over the top.

 

[Dez]

Baltimore seems like the perfect place

 

[FarFromHome]

Any contender could use a Derrick Henry.

If BUF had Henry las night that game never gets close. He would have been converting 1st downs and closing that game out. In fact if Chris Godwin was paying attention CLE steals that one in walk off fashion.

IMO Henry would dramatically affect the Bills chances of winning a Super Bowl this year (which right now I see as very low). Allen is hurt so they are not going to be using him to convert short yardage and Cook... well... he's not Dalvin Cook... and barely a notch above Sam Cooke.

Damn. Henry on the Bills would be dangerous.

 

[Bri]

I'm not a fan of them,but The King would look real nice in Raven Purple.

Why do they always gotta take our players before retirement?
No!

 

[menobrown]

Read an article the other day from Dan Duggan, Giants beat writer with The Athletic, I thought was pertinent to Henry.

He said he polled some execs and came away ball parking Barkely's value as a 5th and cited money owed for ROS and the RB market as issues. I know it's hard to believe but if it's remotely true I'd imagine Henry has the same kind of market.

So really, if this is anything close to accurate, unless Henry wanted out, I don't see much point in dealing away a franchise icon if that's the kind of return.

I'd just add to those who will say it's not true, that kind of low return. Maybe you are right but we saw a soft RB market this off-season if you really look at the league this year that stance is only justified further IMO.

 

[RenegadeRoy]

I don't see much point in dealing away a franchise icon if that's the kind of return.

They aren't winning this season and he's not going to be there next season. So trade him now for something instead of overpaying him next year or losing him to another team and getting nothing in return.

He sells jerseys for sure but I'd be shocked if he was a Titan to start next season regardless of a trade this season.

 

[Dizzy]

Read an article the other day from Dan Duggan, Giants beat writer with The Athletic, I thought was pertinent to Henry.

He said he polled some execs and came away ball parking Barkely's value as a 5th and cited money owed for ROS and the RB market as issues. I know it's hard to believe but if it's remotely true I'd imagine Henry has the same kind of market.

So really, if this is anything close to accurate, unless Henry wanted out, I don't see much point in dealing away a franchise icon if that's the kind of return.

I'd just add to those who will say it's not true, that kind of low return. Maybe you are right but we saw a soft RB market this off-season if you really look at the league this year that stance is only justified further IMO.

Everyone's situation is different and market conditions change. To me, it felt like there were five loud RB voices in the off-season - Aaron Jones, Austin Ekeler, Saquon Barkley, Jonathan Taylor and Derrick Henry. "Loud voices" really a gross over-statement though as I believe all these guys handled it with a degree of class - but were making their case in public for RBs to get paid. Then the season started and the argument for NOT paying RBs became quite clear... but then Taylor got paid, so go figure.

I keep going back to Buffalo because it feels like they have been missing the same piece ever since they became "contenders" again... their running game stinks - except for their QB - and that is not a good long-term plan if you value your QB. Buffalo needs a chain-mover and clock-killer to close out games. Thursday night was a prime example. Derrick Henry would have salted that game away by double digits. Instead, the Bills kept stalling out and punting back to Cleveland Tampa and really won by dumb luck (via the worst Hail Mary in the history of the NFL). Buffalo's window is now, and if Henry is difference-making piece, then that is worth much more than a 5th round pick IMO. Last I checked that trophy case in western NY was still empty.

 

[Ray_T]

So really, if this is anything close to accurate, unless Henry wanted out, I don't see much point in dealing away a franchise icon if that's the kind of return.

I have to agree. the fans in Tennessee would be upset.
if they trade Henry for a first or a 2nd, they can likely live with that. Trade him for a 5th? or let him walk for free? They wont like that at all.

 

[VikingFrog]

Read an article the other day from Dan Duggan, Giants beat writer with The Athletic, I thought was pertinent to Henry.

He said he polled some execs and came away ball parking Barkely's value as a 5th and cited money owed for ROS and the RB market as issues. I know it's hard to believe but if it's remotely true I'd imagine Henry has the same kind of market.

So really, if this is anything close to accurate, unless Henry wanted out, I don't see much point in dealing away a franchise icon if that's the kind of return.

I'd just add to those who will say it's not true, that kind of low return. Maybe you are right but we saw a soft RB market this off-season if you really look at the league this year that stance is only justified further IMO.

Everyone's situation is different and market conditions change. To me, it felt like there were five loud RB voices in the off-season - Aaron Jones, Austin Ekeler, Saquon Barkley, Jonathan Taylor and Derrick Henry. "Loud voices" really a gross over-statement though as I believe all these guys handled it with a degree of class - but were making their case in public for RBs to get paid. Then the season started and the argument for NOT paying RBs became quite clear... but then Taylor got paid, so go figure.

I keep going back to Buffalo because it feels like they have been missing the same piece ever since they became "contenders" again... their running game stinks - except for their QB - and that is not a good long-term plan if you value your QB. Buffalo needs a chain-mover and clock-killer to close out games. Thursday night was a prime example. Derrick Henry would have salted that game away by double digits. Instead, the Bills kept stalling out and punting back to Cleveland and really won by dumb luck (via the worst Hail Mary in the history of the NFL). Buffalo's window is now, and if Henry is difference-making piece, then that is worth much more than a 5th round pick IMO. Last I checked that trophy case in western NY was still empty.

This is the second time today that someone listed the opponent as Cleveland. I guess all those Baker Mayfield commercials are seared into everyone’s brains.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

So really, if this is anything close to accurate, unless Henry wanted out, I don't see much point in dealing away a franchise icon if that's the kind of return.

I have to agree. the fans in Tennessee would be upset.
if they trade Henry for a first or a 2nd, they can likely live with that. Trade him for a 5th? or let him walk for free? They wont like that at all.

Wouldn’t they get a better compensatory pick than a 5th if they let him walk?

 

[Dizzy]

Read an article the other day from Dan Duggan, Giants beat writer with The Athletic, I thought was pertinent to Henry.

He said he polled some execs and came away ball parking Barkely's value as a 5th and cited money owed for ROS and the RB market as issues. I know it's hard to believe but if it's remotely true I'd imagine Henry has the same kind of market.

So really, if this is anything close to accurate, unless Henry wanted out, I don't see much point in dealing away a franchise icon if that's the kind of return.

I'd just add to those who will say it's not true, that kind of low return. Maybe you are right but we saw a soft RB market this off-season if you really look at the league this year that stance is only justified further IMO.

Everyone's situation is different and market conditions change. To me, it felt like there were five loud RB voices in the off-season - Aaron Jones, Austin Ekeler, Saquon Barkley, Jonathan Taylor and Derrick Henry. "Loud voices" really a gross over-statement though as I believe all these guys handled it with a degree of class - but were making their case in public for RBs to get paid. Then the season started and the argument for NOT paying RBs became quite clear... but then Taylor got paid, so go figure.

I keep going back to Buffalo because it feels like they have been missing the same piece ever since they became "contenders" again... their running game stinks - except for their QB - and that is not a good long-term plan if you value your QB. Buffalo needs a chain-mover and clock-killer to close out games. Thursday night was a prime example. Derrick Henry would have salted that game away by double digits. Instead, the Bills kept stalling out and punting back to Cleveland and really won by dumb luck (via the worst Hail Mary in the history of the NFL). Buffalo's window is now, and if Henry is difference-making piece, then that is worth much more than a 5th round pick IMO. Last I checked that trophy case in western NY was still empty.

This is the second time today that someone listed the opponent as Cleveland. I guess all those Baker Mayfield commercials are seared into everyone’s brains.

OMG! Yeah you're right... completely subliminal there. I'll go fix it.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

So really, if this is anything close to accurate, unless Henry wanted out, I don't see much point in dealing away a franchise icon if that's the kind of return.

I have to agree. the fans in Tennessee would be upset.
if they trade Henry for a first or a 2nd, they can likely live with that. Trade him for a 5th? or let him walk for free? They wont like that at all.

Wouldn’t they get a better compensatory pick than a 5th if they let him walk?

Seems like it would be one of those end of the 3rd round picks.

 

[renesauz]

Byard was (probably) leaving after the season anyway.

this is the key. If you can't keep the guy anyway, and aren't winning much this year anyway...isn't ANY return better then nothing?

 

[Buckna]

So really, if this is anything close to accurate, unless Henry wanted out, I don't see much point in dealing away a franchise icon if that's the kind of return.

I have to agree. the fans in Tennessee would be upset.
if they trade Henry for a first or a 2nd, they can likely live with that. Trade him for a 5th? or let him walk for free? They wont like that at all.

Wouldn’t they get a better compensatory pick than a 5th if they let him walk?

Seems like it would be one of those end of the 3rd round picks.

For a 30 year old RB FA? Even with a guy as good as Henry has been over the years it seems pretty unlikely he'll sign a contract good enough to warrant a 3rd round comp pick. That's usually guys who sign multi-year expensive contracts, I'd guess like a 4th or 5th at the end of the round in 2025 at best for Henry. And that's if the Titans don't sign anyone themselves to cancel him out.

 

[ZADO]

In a roster move made on Thursday that flew a bit under the radar, the Baltimore Ravens waived one of their homegrown talents to make room for another player in their 53-man roster by cutting linebacker Jeremiah Moon.

Hmmm