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Yes. But its possible there were some incriminating messages sent to other people as well. But destroying phone messages isn't an admission of guilt. He might have been trying to hide evidence of drug or steroid use. You never know. But if the NFL made known to him they wanted to see his phone and he destroyed the messages that indicates something.
I hear you. I came around quite a bit on Brady reading that thread. I think Brady was doing a little something there, but Goodell went out of control and then had to cover his ###. Thought NFL definitely looked like the bigger fools when it was all said and done IMO.I enjoy making sure that the same logic used by Cowboy fans against Brady gets used against Zeke.
It's not evidence. If he knew the NFL wanted to see the phone, it's sketchy to erase it although, as I said, it's not an admission of guilt. There could have been other things he didn't want the NFL to see. I don't know for a fact the NFL asked to see his phone prior to him erasing/destroying it. If they didn't, his statement of "I didn't know they wouldn't want me to do that" makes sense.
I agree with the premise of perhaps there was something unrelated to the investigation on his phone he didn't want anyone to see. I mean, have you seen his wife? Yamma-hamma.
also you don't have to be a criminal to want privacy. I know I don't want my employer looking at all my personal text messages.
Guess what? I can read. And I read all of that.
If I remember things right, in the Brady investigation they specifically told Brady they didn't need his phone. Then he destroyed it, and when the phone came up again at his appeal they made a big to do that he didn't have it. And from what I remember, they recreated all the messages that were on it from other phones or the cell carrier. That's when Goodell changed what Brady was suspended for to failure to fully cooperate in the investigation and being complicit and conspiring to run a ball deflation ring or something bizarre like that.
Do you seriously not understand what "lack of cooperation" means? That means he didn't do what the NFL asked him.
Yup, Wells told Brady they didn't need his phone, then Goodell made a big deal after he destroyed it. And then Goodell changed the justification for the suspension to include non-cooperation.
The NFL has no power to compel anyone not in the league to turn over their phone.
FWIW the rotoworld blurb on him this morning added that the NFL is asking to have it moved up to the Friday, the 27th so if they get their ruling he's out next week.
One more game out of Zeke.
With risk appears to be decreasing that Zeke will be suspended, not sure why anyone would trade him unless you get absolutely full value as in, he's the #1 - #4 player in the league.
Sadly, I don't see this happening. The league is still making billions of dollars, and even with viewership dropping some I don't see Goodell being shown the door. There are so many more entertainment options these days that all of broadcast tv is seeing numbers dropping (more channels, streaming, on-line options, etc.).
Because he consistently harms the NFL's public image? Name a controversial situation he's handled well.
Really doubt he gets fired. He is the public face for all things bad about the league and I think the owners don't mind that one bit.
Obviously "anybody" is a deliberately inflammatory word.Sure anyone could have grown it like him.
"Lack of cooperation" could mean ANYTHING. And where are the details about Zeke wiping his phone after the request? Where are the details about what he even did to get suspended in the first place?Do you seriously not understand what "lack of cooperation" means? That means he didn't do what the NFL asked him.
Why would the NFL say he didn't cooperate, if they didn't ask for his phone in the first place? That makes zero sense.
Under your theory, the NFL never asked for the phone, Zeke wiped it, then the NFL says Zeke didn't cooperate with a request that they never made.
You forgot to factor for inflation. That $140M in 1989 is around $280M inflation adjusted. But still a great return.
From my understanding this isn't something any of the owners stood together and said they wanted. This is Goodell's project. He's the one that wanted to create the discipline for off-the-field incidents and the reason being is that those types of trangressions are bad for the NFL image. HE wanted that done, and has pitched that it's for the good of the league, which would positively impact all 32 clubs.
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