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Agreed. I suspect players at other positions, many of whom would likely support the RBs in their current endeavor (many simply for optics), would shut down their support pretty quickly if they thought for a second that it meant less money for them. This isn't like baseball where the Yankees or Dodgers have an endless supply of money and there is no cap.
Unimportant is not the right word. RBs simply do not have a lot of value at the moment, and that is being reflected in their current salaries. It is as plain as day.
Peyton was a ghost of himself and won a SB without a high priced running game.
It's supply and demand - when a 26/27/28 year old RB can have 75% - 80% of their production replaced by a rookie making 10% of the price.
He says with a straight face, despite RBs being drafted #8 and #12 this year. I also love how you seem to think it's so simple to just become a CB, safety, or WR.
I get Henry’s frustration and feeling like you aren’t getting what you should based on the amount of work you put in. Unfortunately, that’s not the only the only thing that determines value, especially monetary value.
Who could have seen this coming...
He's made ~$32 mil for the ~60 games he's played so far, he'll make over $10 mil this season, and he would have made more had he agreed to their offer. If we're being honest, you could argue that he's been underpaid for 2 seasons and overpaid for 2-3 so far.
Is that for real? Seems unbelievable, but I assume it's true.
Interesting
It's probably true, but it's also not as telling as it might seem if you use that all important "context". For example, last year not only did the 1st team All-Pro QB win the super bowl but the 2nd team All-Pro QB lost in the SB. The 1st and 2nd team All-Pro RBs saw their teams combine for a 13-21 record with neither even coming close to making the playoffs.
There would need to be some sort of promotion relegation where there are things to play for other than just playoffs
not what I am talking about. I am talking about using more WRs like Deebo is used, shifting TEs into the backfield for pass protection, and maybe having a player on the roster that runs RPO plays besides the actual QB. All of it disguised, so the TE runs the ball a few plays, more use of jet sweeps or fast WRs to get to the edge, maybe your RPO player can also catch the ball a little to run screens.
I would hate to see it, but that is a very good idea, logically.
Instead of 4 RBs, try to fill those roster spots with a couple Tysom Hill types that don't need to be proficient like a true QB just good enough to recognize and run an RPO, a TE sized body that can bang short yardage, pass block, and run patterns out of the backfield, and another little speedy guy.
This is a fair point, but I am not sure what the answer is or what the league can do. Players at all the other positions won't stand for just RBs getting a different contract situation where they are allowed to be a FA sooner, and there is no way the union would support it either as their job is to support all players, not just the RBs.
I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Can you elaborate?
Sue. The claim that runningbacks dont matter is an overstatement. The thinking that the RB market is dead is an overstatement. The RB market in its current iteration where the best backs are locked up for 4-5 years is causing the depresed market. To futher prove this, please tell me what you think Bijan, Walker or Hall would have gotten THIS SPRING if they were UFAs? Do you think they would get less than 5MM a year? 10MM 15MM 20MM? What? Would love to hear some opinions on this. If you think they would get more doesnt speak more to more about how the system is setup and less to RBs fading overall?
being retired at 31 with even "only" $6MM in the bank doesn't seem so bad.
Yes, and I would very much like to see the parents of the next Nick Chubb make the decision in high school to have him switch positions because NFL running backs get hosed on their second contract.
Honestly, I doubt they would have gotten much more than they are scheduled to be paid. Bijan has yet to step on an NFL field and he'll be the highest paid RB in the league this year (in terms of cash). Most of the "best" RBs in the league right now aren't on their rookie contracts anyway- Henry, Chubb, McCaffrey, Ekeler, etc.
They'd probably make less on a true open market.
Interesting. Just posted that I think they'd probably make less as I believe teams would allocate even more dollars to the priority positions in an "open market" scenario.
"Rookies had no voice in the 2011 CBA negotiation. The owners, embarrassed by the riches given to busts such as JaMarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf, were determined to change the system. And the NFLPA negotiating team, led by veterans who were frustrated with rookies entering the league and making more than proven players, was only too happy to shift funds to established guys. Of the myriad issues that were part of the negotiations, the rookie compensation system was the easiest to resolve."
Exactly. Who is negotiating for college kids? No one.
was just reading a thread about a 2023 draft pick driving a lambo. how much more they need?
