Ilov80s
Footballguy
Are we sure? Gibbs wasn’t playing on many obvious passing downs. That was pretty much all Monty.
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RB Jahmyr Gibbs, DET (1 Viewer)
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Yeah, pass protect is something to consider.
massraider
Footballguy
If it's we gotta score time, gotta have the home run hitters out there.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Anybody doubting Monty gets all the goal line work and 10-15 TDs?
GibbsFreeEnergy
Footballguy
Gibbs dual threat makes him an ideal RZ back. Monty will get the majority of goal line carries but even swift got his share of insides 5’s
No, I do not believe he gets all of the goal line work. Most? Yes. Like every other aspect of Gibb’s game, I feel like he’ll just continue to get more and more involved.
I’m not sure about 15, but I could certainly see Montgomery scoring 12.
Banger
Footballguy
Of course. It was obvious to anyone with eyeballs.
Sorry late reply.
In my leagues he was a going as RB9, an early third. Before the game it's fair to say I agreed with that consensus opinion and I actually him him in his own tier, after a tier fo two which included Jacobs/Henry. In most of my drafts I hoped for other players to fall to that early third but if not I was comfortable selecting him as RB9, in the third. Early third if my other targets were gone. Put another way I went into every draft hoping for Ridley in the third and if not Gibbs was one of my main targets.
After the game I still had 4 drafts so had to think about where to slot him. I did not really focus on if he was my RB9 or 11, I just did not feel comfortable having him in his own tier any longer above the likes of Mixon, Rhamondre, ETN, Hall, Jones, Walker, Pierce, J Cook, Javonte, Najee, White, Sanders and maybe some I'm missing.
With the exception of Mixon(who I was way lower on then consensus and not interested at his ADP) you had a good shot to get any of those other RB's in the mid 4th. I was in drafts where every one of them except Rhamondre made it to the 5th at least once.Majority of them lasting into the 6th, sometimes mid 7th.
So how that game impacted me was no longer wanting to spend a third on Gibbs, and instead just putting him in that large mix of RB's that could be had in the late 4th into the 6-7th.
If I actually would have ranked him I think I would have only moved him to RB10, one spot behind Rhamondre, but my long winded reply is to illustrate why the ranking vs other RB's is not as important to the tier I moved him down.
And now after watching every team play? I actually regret moving him off his own tier. Just seeing so many of the RB's in this range I moved him down to get solid volume and struggle while Gibbs frankly made it look easy on his limited touches, which will no doubt grow. I love volume, especially in the passing game, but this time I'm feeling like I I should have given him more credit for how dang easy he made it look and what that means to his upside with just a little uptick in usage.
Banger
Footballguy
not surprised...he looked great. I imagine Breece was 1st....#2?? Bijan?Jahmyr Gibbs was the third highest graded halfback in week 1 per PFF
78.8 overall grade
eighsse2
Footballguy
After seeing #1 and #2, it makes you wonder what goes into these grades.not surprised...he looked great. I imagine Breece was 1st....#2?? Bijan?Jahmyr Gibbs was the third highest graded halfback in week 1 per PFF
78.8 overall grade
Top 15 PFF Halfback Grades Week 1
- James Conner 83.3
- Chuba Hubbard 82.1
- Jahmyr Gibbs 78.8
- Breece Hall 77.0
- Nick Chubb 76.6
- Derrick Henry 76.0
- Joshua Kelly 75.5
- Austin Ekeler 74.8
- Christian McCafferty 74.6
- Tyler Algier 73.4
- ETN 73.3
- Roschon Johnson 71.5
- Aaron Jones 71.3
- Bijan Robinson 71.2
- Kenneth Walker 71.1
Chaka
Footballguy
I liked your previous posts a lot more before seeing this list.not surprised...he looked great. I imagine Breece was 1st....#2?? Bijan?Jahmyr Gibbs was the third highest graded halfback in week 1 per PFF
78.8 overall grade
Top 15 PFF Halfback Grades Week 1
- James Conner 83.3
- Chuba Hubbard 82.1
- Jahmyr Gibbs 78.8
- Breece Hall 77.0
- Nick Chubb 76.6
- Derrick Henry 76.0
- Joshua Kelly 75.5
- Austin Ekeler 74.8
- Christian McCafferty 74.6
- Tyler Algier 73.4
- ETN 73.3
- Roschon Johnson 71.5
- Aaron Jones 71.3
- Bijan Robinson 71.2
- Kenneth Walker 71.1
Banger
Footballguy
ok, now I'm not as excited with him being 3rd highestnot surprised...he looked great. I imagine Breece was 1st....#2?? Bijan?Jahmyr Gibbs was the third highest graded halfback in week 1 per PFF
78.8 overall grade
Top 15 PFF Halfback Grades Week 1
- James Conner 83.3
- Chuba Hubbard 82.1
- Jahmyr Gibbs 78.8
- Breece Hall 77.0
- Nick Chubb 76.6
- Derrick Henry 76.0
- Joshua Kelly 75.5
- Austin Ekeler 74.8
- Christian McCafferty 74.6
- Tyler Algier 73.4
- ETN 73.3
- Roschon Johnson 71.5
- Aaron Jones 71.3
- Bijan Robinson 71.2
- Kenneth Walker 71.1
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Thought this was funny.
Will #Lions RB Jahmyr Gibbs get more touches Week 2!?
“Well, probably not,” said Dan Campbell. “Now that everybody’s asking, no. I had planned on doing it, but the more people ask, the more I think we oughta just pull back.
“We love Gibbs. Yes, he’s going to get more touches.
Will #Lions RB Jahmyr Gibbs get more touches Week 2!?
“Well, probably not,” said Dan Campbell. “Now that everybody’s asking, no. I had planned on doing it, but the more people ask, the more I think we oughta just pull back.
“We love Gibbs. Yes, he’s going to get more touches.
Chaka
Footballguy
Is that a real quote?
Man I love MCDC. I feel like running through a wall for him right now. Even if he never hears about it.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
This is like when the wife asks when I'm going to trim my beard. "Well, every time you ask I add another month to the timeline."
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Yes, I heard him say it live.
goose_egged
Footballguy
Gibbs' prop lines for this Sunday are 34.5 rushing yards and 25.5 receiving yards. The market does not believe in Jahmyr Gibbs the superstar yet but it will after the Lions unleash him on the Seahawks.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
debated benching him for Puka or Dotson... then I read they are unveiling the Barry Sanders statue today... hoping this shoots Gibbs out of a cannon
Chaka
Footballguy
LOL
Love how we read tea leaves in this hobby.
FTR I would definitely start Gibbs over the other two.
smcindoe
Footballguy
He looks fine when he touches the ball, but at this point the Lions seem happy to let Montgomery be the guy and just use Gibbs as a basic change-of-pace option and nothing more. It's early, etc, but for now the Lions seem content to talk a good game about Gibbs and not much else.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Can't kep rolling him out as a Starter every week, now firmly a Platoon RB2/3/Flex role, gotta see if perhaps Monty getting so many touched this week wears him down
Gonna be difficult to know when to pull the trigger on Gibbs
-I misread him being super involved in the passing game...with a hole at WR2/3 for Detroit and a rookie TE, I was thinking Gibbs would be an easy weekly 4-5 targets and get some cheap receiving points early in the season, boy was I wrong on that one
But the Lions are closing in on going 2-0, don't think they give 2 flying squirrel nuts what we FF players think they should do.
Even after the injury reynolds got a lot of snaps.
This pick probably gonna be a season ruiner
i didn't want to draft him but i bought the stupid hype
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Today should have been very different. With less than a minute left in the 1st half, he ran a Texas route from inside their own 10 and Goff hit him in stride. He had a runway and it was likely going to be between a 30-90 yard play. He turned his head up field too early and dropped it. Late in the 4th he ran a wheel route and there wasn’t a soul around him. Goff didn’t see him.
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Lucky for me my league awards pts for 'should haves'
So your saying it was even worse of a performance
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Was it really the homers pushing him up? I mean I know Jon was but he’s over the moon on everything Lions and I don’t think anyone takes him all that serious. It wasn’t Lions fans driving his ADP to the third round in fantasy, that’s for sure. Still absolutely hate the draft pick, same for Campbell. Needed pass rush desperately and it showed up big this week.
I don't know it felt like a lot of the lions fans on here were predicting an easy 1500 yard season (jon's crazy prediction aside)
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yeah he was bad, he ran the wrong route on the pick 6 too. Campbell said it was on him, not Goff. He’s got a long ways to go.
Lucky for me my league awards pts for 'should haves'
So your saying it was even worse of a performance
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Maybe, I guess I don’t know for sure. Outside of dynasty, I wasn’t touching him this year. It just seemed like there was a lot of hype for him in general though, I mean look at his ADP. RBs drafted that high typically do deliver and it’s a long season but he’s got a lot still left to prove before he can be played for fantasy.
Plus he's killing everyone rolling him out every week never knowing
Like you said obvious growing pains, probably overhyped, and is probably still going to be eased in over the coming weeks
Leads the league in 3 should have TDs this season
Lucky for me my league awards pts for 'should haves'
So your saying it was even worse of a performance
massraider
Footballguy
23 pages by week 2. Lotta hype.
And really, nothing compared to fantasy Twitter. Lions and Gibbs were trendy this summer.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Oh tons of hype, I meant was the Gibbs fantasy hype coming from Lions fans or was it just hype in general from everywhere?
styleride85
Footballguy
this year's gabe davis
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I have stopped wondering. Whatever it is they clearly are out of synch with reality.After seeing #1 and #2, it makes you wonder what goes into these grades.not surprised...he looked great. I imagine Breece was 1st....#2?? Bijan?Jahmyr Gibbs was the third highest graded halfback in week 1 per PFF
78.8 overall grade
Top 15 PFF Halfback Grades Week 1
- James Conner 83.3
- Chuba Hubbard 82.1
- Jahmyr Gibbs 78.8
- Breece Hall 77.0
- Nick Chubb 76.6
- Derrick Henry 76.0
- Joshua Kelly 75.5
- Austin Ekeler 74.8
- Christian McCafferty 74.6
- Tyler Algier 73.4
- ETN 73.3
- Roschon Johnson 71.5
- Aaron Jones 71.3
- Bijan Robinson 71.2
- Kenneth Walker 71.1
Biabreakable
Footballguy
As far as Gibbs play so far its only been 2 games. He is a rookie. They tend to make mistakes. Gibbs has a different skill set than a lot of RB as a tweener RB/WR so there is more he has to learn and master than a more traditional RB and that learning curve may take longer.
The Lions have a quality RB in all phases in Montgommery, so no need to rush him into opportunities either.
He is clearly very talented and I am sure that will start showing up in the box score eventually. Similar to McCaffrey he may not truly break out until his second season.
I understand people are dissapointed right now and maybe had too high of expectations/investment as part of that. But be paitient. I think eventually he puts it all together.
Look at James Cook for example. He didnt do all that much as a rookie. Just had some flashes here and there, but he seems to be doing well now with a year under his belt and an offseason conditioning program to help him improve.
I will remind people again that the rookie season for good RB is their worst statistical performance of their 1st six seasons in the league on average.
The Lions have a quality RB in all phases in Montgommery, so no need to rush him into opportunities either.
He is clearly very talented and I am sure that will start showing up in the box score eventually. Similar to McCaffrey he may not truly break out until his second season.
I understand people are dissapointed right now and maybe had too high of expectations/investment as part of that. But be paitient. I think eventually he puts it all together.
Look at James Cook for example. He didnt do all that much as a rookie. Just had some flashes here and there, but he seems to be doing well now with a year under his belt and an offseason conditioning program to help him improve.
I will remind people again that the rookie season for good RB is their worst statistical performance of their 1st six seasons in the league on average.
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Explain to me how he is 'clearly' NFL talented. Lots of 1st round rbs stink
Biabreakable
Footballguy
He has speed and ability that few RB can match.
If that isnt clear then Im not sure what to tell you.
So you say...heard that story a hundred times over for 1st round rb failures...especially ones that are taken too early
I'm not saying he won't work out just questioning how you can be so sure of yourself that he is clearly an nfl talent
Ilov80s
Footballguy
He looked really good week 1, I think he was top 3 in broken tackles week1 despite not many touches. He didn’t show nearly as much today. He’s got talent. Just not sure what kind of usage it will end up equating to ultimately.
