Ilov80s
Footballguy
Probably stays a bit of a timeshare with Hunt being given every chance possible to be the leader there. Problem is the offense isn’t functioning right now.
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RB Kareem Hunt, KC (3 Viewers)
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
More likely you will be turned into consommé.
dkp993
Footballguy
Starter
skinsrule05
Footballguy
I don't think he would be automatic from the beginning. It will take some time to get up to speed, maybe a couple of weeks. After that the Rams don't have anyone that would keep him off the field.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Are you kidding me?
I'm of the opinion that if Kareem Hunt goes to the Rams, he's an immediate sell high, for multiple reasons.
1. The Rams OL is trash and shows no signs of getting better. We've never really seen Hunt behind a bad OL.
2. Hunt has looked like a declining player this season. I don't just mean compared to Chubb but compared to himself the previous 2 seasons. Yards per carry, yards after contact, and yards per route run, are all way down.
3. He'd have to learn a new playbook on the fly, and that's pretty hard to do. He's not a savant like CMC, which isn't a knock, or me saying Hunt isn't a hard worker or anything, just that CMC is more in a league of his own.
I'm not arguing by any means that Kareem Hunt isn't still better than Darrell Henderson, but given all those factors, production wise, I'm not sure he'd be all that much better than Darrell Henderson fantasy wise, as Henderson would probably take more from Hunt than Kyren Williams is likely to take from Henderson. So, if Hunt goes to LA, he's probably in the RB15/RB20 range, which is a lot higher than he is now, but I think someone in every league will convince themselves Hunt is an RB1 if he's in LA.
Like to give an example, if Hunt goes to LA, I'd still certainly rather own a guy like Etienne than Hunt, but I don't know if that will be the perception.
1. The Rams OL is trash and shows no signs of getting better. We've never really seen Hunt behind a bad OL.
2. Hunt has looked like a declining player this season. I don't just mean compared to Chubb but compared to himself the previous 2 seasons. Yards per carry, yards after contact, and yards per route run, are all way down.
3. He'd have to learn a new playbook on the fly, and that's pretty hard to do. He's not a savant like CMC, which isn't a knock, or me saying Hunt isn't a hard worker or anything, just that CMC is more in a league of his own.
I'm not arguing by any means that Kareem Hunt isn't still better than Darrell Henderson, but given all those factors, production wise, I'm not sure he'd be all that much better than Darrell Henderson fantasy wise, as Henderson would probably take more from Hunt than Kyren Williams is likely to take from Henderson. So, if Hunt goes to LA, he's probably in the RB15/RB20 range, which is a lot higher than he is now, but I think someone in every league will convince themselves Hunt is an RB1 if he's in LA.
Like to give an example, if Hunt goes to LA, I'd still certainly rather own a guy like Etienne than Hunt, but I don't know if that will be the perception.
Possibly, but I think D'Earnest Johnson might also just slide into Hunt's role completely.
3nOut
Footballguy
What are you confused about?
MAC_32
Footballguy
I doubt it. That's Hunt's role cause he's a great receiver (running back standards). If he's moved then while I don't think Chubb's workload changes much I think how they use him will.
foxco
Footballguy
Think he's fairly adamant that Hunt would indeed immediately become the starter for the Rams.
Dez
Footballguy
Starter no doubt their RB situation is trash
jtd13
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Do the Rams even have anything to trade?
(HULK)
(Smash)
Cleveland literally said they'd take a 4th. No idea what the Rams have left but if they don't have a 4th, a 3rd next year or a 2nd the year after that work too I bet.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Talking the first 5 rounds, they have a 2 +3 this year and the full allotment in future years.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Jack Duffin
@JackDuffin
If the #Browns
trade with the Eagles I would assume they first have to eat Hunts contract & it would be a 2024 pick 
Eagles 2023 picks - 1, 1, 2, 3, 7, 7 Eagles 2024 picks - 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5, 6
Zac Jackson
@AkronJackson
Buzz in league circles is the Eagles are one of the serious suitors for Kareem Hunt. How many others there might be and how it goes, we’ll see. twitter.com/akronjackson/s…
@JackDuffin
If the #Browns
trade with the Eagles I would assume they first have to eat Hunts contract & it would be a 2024 pick Eagles 2023 picks - 1, 1, 2, 3, 7, 7 Eagles 2024 picks - 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5, 6Zac Jackson
@AkronJackson
Buzz in league circles is the Eagles are one of the serious suitors for Kareem Hunt. How many others there might be and how it goes, we’ll see. twitter.com/akronjackson/s…
That would be a weird trade no? Sanders is already doing pretty good on the Eagles and they have some nice backups...
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I'm not the one who is confused. Of course he would get the majority of carries if he were to be traded to the Rams.
Sanders has been injured every year of his career and those backups aren’t guys you’d want out there in the playoffs. Hunt can carry the load in a lousy weather, cold weather playoff game and is a great weapon in the passing game. Sanders/Hunt would be a Super Bowl caliber backfield.
Boston
Footballguy
Agreed...Philly is good and the NFC is down...time to start dotting i's and crossing t's for a Super Bowl run...not to look too far ahead but if they get to the Super Bowl they are gonna need every weapon they can get to go against Buffalo or KC.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
Atlanta is in first place and would be a sneaky great landing spot for Hunt. He only becomes the instant #1 at a couple other places where the team is in the playoff picture - Rams, Chiefs.
Bills and Eagles are probably more of a time share and slight upgrade from his current situation?
Bills and Eagles are probably more of a time share and slight upgrade from his current situation?
Wildcat
Footballguy
He won't go to the Chiefs based on the history there. I'm guessing it will be the Rams. With their loss yesterday and wins by the 49ers and Seahawks, they need to make a move now to stay competitive in that division.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
One of the catalysts of the birds super bowl run was the out-of-nowhere trade for Jay Ajayi when we already had Blount. The eagles brass recognize the value of depth. It would not shock me in the least if they traded for Hunt and Howie is a king fu master with picks/trades/etc
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Hunt is a legit #1 RB. He can carry the load and gets better as the game goes on.
He's a good receiver, a solid blocker, a RZ weapon and runs with such violence that he beats up and wears down defenses.
Best thing?
He's had little wear and tear on his body the last few years.
He's a good receiver, a solid blocker, a RZ weapon and runs with such violence that he beats up and wears down defenses.
Best thing?
He's had little wear and tear on his body the last few years.
FWIW any team acquiring him on his current deal would owe him about $2.5M for the ROS. His remaining base is only abut $715K of that but he also gets paid $200K per game. Not sure how that works if he got traded to a team that had a bye week already, might pick up another $200k and bump up that $2.5M number a tad. Won't be much of a contract to eat, really most the Browns can do is convert the per game bonus to a regular bonus and eat about $1.8-2M and team picking him would only owe him $715 for ROS.If the #Brownstrade with the Eagles I would assume they first have to eat Hunts contract
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
His role is in direct relation to Chubb this year where he has been used in RZ/GL and short yardage points of the game. Not the sort of game situations to pad PFF grades for RBs.
Add, he's had Baker Mayfield and Jacoby Brissett as his QBs the last couple of years, so his receiving ability has not been optimized.
IF he gets traded, he'd assume lead RB carries and his QB would undoubtably be improved which would increase his receptions.
No for a variety of reasons.
Sample size is pretty small. We are talking 85 total touches. He looked great early last year and my guess is team won't be worried about a RB who has not been used that heavily hitting a wall between his age 26 and age 27 season, again considering his lack of overall use the past few years. In other words I don't think he'll be viewed as run down.
I also think teams are cognizant of the fact he was not bought in this year and that could have impacted his play. He wanted to be traded and they played hard ball with him. Not saying he does not play hard but that kind of stuff can impact how you perform.
Lastly while I think teams look at some PFF data I don't think it's a big factor in their decisions or worry level with those decisions.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
In addition to everything else noted, it cannot be stressed enough that the Browns have been starting Jacoby Brissett.
Everyone knows Cleveland has the best offensive line/RB talent and opposing DCs have been loading the box, sometimes with up to 10 defenders within 3 yards of the LOS to stop the Browns potent rushing attack.
Every team has dared Jacoby to beat them with his arm.
PFF does not adjust grades based on how RBs are used or if opposing DCs sell out to stop the run.
Everyone knows Cleveland has the best offensive line/RB talent and opposing DCs have been loading the box, sometimes with up to 10 defenders within 3 yards of the LOS to stop the Browns potent rushing attack.
Every team has dared Jacoby to beat them with his arm.
PFF does not adjust grades based on how RBs are used or if opposing DCs sell out to stop the run.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
What do you anticipate will be D’Ernest Johnson’s share if a trade happens? Very capabable runner (obviously) but how is his pass pro / receiving game?
I’ve had him rostered a few times but lil’ rough rn with covering byes + more injuries than IR slots.
I hope Hunt gets traded, I hope it is not to the Eagles. He will be in a share/split situation there also with Sanders.
Rams he will carry the load. What his stats with the Browns this season really should not be looked at
When you only touch the ball a handful of times he can't get into any type of rhythm
Rams he will carry the load. What his stats with the Browns this season really should not be looked at
When you only touch the ball a handful of times he can't get into any type of rhythm
Not much. I don't have a reason to think it would look any different then it looked like last year. Hunt only played 36 snaps last year after week 6 so we had a healthy sample size to see as long as Chubb is healthy it's very minimal. He would IMO have close to zero value as a flex, but real value as injury handcuff to Chubb.
In a lot of my leagues I noticed people scooping up D'Ernest this last week on the chance that Hunt got traded. These leagues any fairly high end backup is rostered but I was mainly picking up D'Ernest on the slim chance he's traded instead of Hunt. Just have felt for a few weeks now one of them is dealt.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
they don't really use sanders in the pass game and gainwell doesn't seem to be a good enough runner to let them really open the playbook. Boston Scott is a nice occasional change of pace guy. Hunt would give them a pass/run element that could unlock the offense even more. The Eagles RBs right now are adequate, not great.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Yeah we have 18 roster spots + 2 IR - wire is completely picked clean except for DTs, Ks and a few dart throw WR4/5s. Guys like James Cook, Dontrell Hilliard & Jaylen Warren been rostered all year. Once a trade happens someone will nab Johnson.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
He would be a monster that Eagles team.
nittanylion
Footballguy
Having owned both Chubb, Hunt and Johnson for the entire time they've played together on the Browns, across various Teams, the digging I've done leads me to believe that were Hunt to be traded, Johnson would immediately step into the Robin role to Chubb's batman. I think Johnson is a solid RB in his own right, solid enough to be in a 50/50 timeshare were he to find his way on another Team, or in Hunt's absence. Hunt probably has a better overall game, but Johnson is good enough that the Browns could platoon him with Chubb in the same manner as they've utilized Hunt. Ford's a good little back, too. Browns have a nice problem on their hands.
You just posted earlier citing PFF grades and wondering if that's a reason teams should shy away from Hunt. So I get it, you don't have a high opinion of Hunt.
But I have no idea what you mean saying Hunt was inflated by a great OL or QB. The year he led the league in rushing was the Alex Smith Chiefs, not the Mahomes Chiefs and he's not had much in the way of QB play with the Browns. I think he's played a grand total of 10-11 games with a great QB. He's had some decent lines but I'd not call any of them great.
efactor
Footballguy
Edmunds has no history of being a #1 type RB. Best rushing season is slightly short of 600 yards. He's always been a RBBC guy. Hunt has shown he has the ability. Maybe the Browns were the only team willing to sign him after his incident, but not the best move for his career playing behind a great RB like Chubb. Would like to see him get another shot at being the main man. No shares of him, but always liked watching him run.
Stat Correction
Footballguy
Someone mentioned D'Ernest Johnson. If he's still available, I would highly recommend scooping him. Yes, benches can be tight, but if Hunt leaves, he becomes the most valuable backup in the league, with the exception of Pollard. League winning upside running behind that o-line.
TripleThreat
Footballguy
got duped.
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Nooooooooo, Mostert, Edmonds, and Hunt? What do the Dolphins need Hunt for? He's Mostert + Edmunds at best.
Stat Correction
Footballguy
Mostert has been serviceable, but that's it. Hunt would own that backfield if traded, and with defenses having to focus on containing Hill/Waddle, Hunt would eat. As a Hunt owner (and Mostert in one league), I would approve this trade.
TripleThreat
Footballguy
Mostert has been good when he's had his number called. Edmonds hasn't.
