RB Kendall Hunter (1 Viewer)

[shadyridr]

This reminds me of the Carnell Williams/Blount debacle at the beginning of last year. Former long-time starter (relative) with tread wearing off, averaging abysmal YPC with new rookie showing promise. I'm not saying their identical, but you see my point. We saw how that turned out.

Blount wasnt even on TB at the beginning of last year. You have a poor memory

 

[tdhartis]

This reminds me of the Carnell Williams/Blount debacle at the beginning of last year. Former long-time starter (relative) with tread wearing off, averaging abysmal YPC with new rookie showing promise. I'm not saying their identical, but you see my point. We saw how that turned out.

Blount wasn't a Buccaneer in the preseason. The Bucs scooped him up after Titans released him on September 5, 2010. I don't remember that they picked up this rookie and already he was a threat to start?

I specifically stated the situations weren't identical. However, without his antics Blount likely would have had a high round draft grade, so besides being rookies the talent is comparable. Also, he was kicked from the Titans due to his attitude and behavior. Besides that, he had the veteran in front of him who like Gore had an injury history, although a more severe one admittedly. Williams underperformed the first few games, and week six was when Blount first emerged with his 11 carries for 72 yards, and from that point on he began to take away more and more carries all the while Carnell continued to wear down (Blount 2011 game log - http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BlouLe00/gamelog// ). Those are the connections I can draw, I don't claim any others.Edit: Blount was claimed by the Bucs on September 6th. The NFL season started the 9th. By definition he technically was on TB at the beginning of the season. My mistake was thinking the 6th game of the season still constituted the "beginning."

 

[cvnpoka]

he was kicked from the Titans due to his attitude and behavior.

doubtful

 

[tdhartis]

he was kicked from the Titans due to his attitude and behavior.

doubtful

"In August 2010, Blount was involved in another incident in which he threw a punch, this time with a Tennessee Titans teammate, defensive end Eric Bakhtiari, a few moments after having his own helmet ripped off in practice. The play ended with some pushing and shoving, Blount threw a right fist, contacting Bakhtiari's facemask."I imagine it had something to do with it.

 

[cvnpoka]

and the coach praised him after the incident and said he liked such fire.

later in the season fisher said he regretted cutting him and had intended to sneak him onto the practice squad.

 

[loompa17]

This reminds me of the Carnell Williams/Blount debacle at the beginning of last year. Former long-time starter (relative) with tread wearing off, averaging abysmal YPC with new rookie showing promise. I'm not saying their identical, but you see my point. We saw how that turned out.

Blount wasn't a Buccaneer in the preseason. The Bucs scooped him up after Titans released him on September 5, 2010. I don't remember that they picked up this rookie and already he was a threat to start?

I specifically stated the situations weren't identical. However, without his antics Blount likely would have had a high round draft grade, so besides being rookies the talent is comparable. Also, he was kicked from the Titans due to his attitude and behavior. Besides that, he had the veteran in front of him who like Gore had an injury history, although a more severe one admittedly. Williams underperformed the first few games, and week six was when Blount first emerged with his 11 carries for 72 yards, and from that point on he began to take away more and more carries all the while Carnell continued to wear down (Blount 2011 game log - http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BlouLe00/gamelog// ). Those are the connections I can draw, I don't claim any others.Edit: Blount was claimed by the Bucs on September 6th. The NFL season started the 9th. By definition he technically was on TB at the beginning of the season. My mistake was thinking the 6th game of the season still constituted the "beginning."

I get your general point - and I don't disagree with it. This situation is not unlike many where the veteran is wearing down and the new guy appears to be held back. I just think you could have picked a better example.

 

[shadyridr]

he was kicked from the Titans due to his attitude and behavior.

doubtful

"In August 2010, Blount was involved in another incident in which he threw a punch, this time with a Tennessee Titans teammate, defensive end Eric Bakhtiari, a few moments after having his own helmet ripped off in practice. The play ended with some pushing and shoving, Blount threw a right fist, contacting Bakhtiari's facemask."I imagine it had something to do with it.

no it didnt

 

[shadyridr]

This reminds me of the Carnell Williams/Blount debacle at the beginning of last year. Former long-time starter (relative) with tread wearing off, averaging abysmal YPC with new rookie showing promise. I'm not saying their identical, but you see my point. We saw how that turned out.

Blount wasn't a Buccaneer in the preseason. The Bucs scooped him up after Titans released him on September 5, 2010. I don't remember that they picked up this rookie and already he was a threat to start?

I specifically stated the situations weren't identical. However, without his antics Blount likely would have had a high round draft grade, so besides being rookies the talent is comparable. Also, he was kicked from the Titans due to his attitude and behavior. Besides that, he had the veteran in front of him who like Gore had an injury history, although a more severe one admittedly. Williams underperformed the first few games, and week six was when Blount first emerged with his 11 carries for 72 yards, and from that point on he began to take away more and more carries all the while Carnell continued to wear down (Blount 2011 game log - http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BlouLe00/gamelog// ). Those are the connections I can draw, I don't claim any others.Edit: Blount was claimed by the Bucs on September 6th. The NFL season started the 9th. By definition he technically was on TB at the beginning of the season. My mistake was thinking the 6th game of the season still constituted the "beginning."

I get your general point - and I don't disagree with it. This situation is not unlike many where the veteran is wearing down and the new guy appears to be held back. I just think you could have picked a better example.

and better reasoning than completely wrong information to back it up

 

[krsone21]

SF will never start Hunter over Gore. Gore has an extension through 2014 and he is guaranteed 14 million dollars. You do not pay a backup RB anywhere close to that type of money. Gore will always be the starting RB and get the bulk of carries no matter how well Hunter plays. Gore has been the franchise running back for SF. And the owner/coaching staff will always try to play him for stadium seating and market profit. They will make Gore earn his money.I understand that you "wish" Hunter will take over and get the majority of carries. Perhaps you have him stashed on your bench. Sorry but the 49ers do not care about your fantasy team. Gore is their guy and it will be that way until 2014. Whether he rushes for 2 ypc or 5 ypc. Gore will get the majority of carries.

I disagree. I don't care how much money your paying a player, in your example if Gore were only getting 2ypc and Hunter was getting say 4.5+ypc I can guarantee you the 49ers will go with the better player. You don't play a person just because your paying him a lot of money. You don't win in this league playing the inferior player just because they are making the most money. That being Said I don't see Gore being replaced this year by Hunter unless of a series injury or unless Gore's wheels completely fall off, which I don't think will happen this season yet.

 

[tdhartis]

what would be your better example? Besides how he ended up on the Bucs roster and the fact that he emerged in week 6 (his third game playing) I don't see how my comparison is as far off/wrong as each of you are making it out to be. Another thing everyone is saying is that Kendall is a liability in pass protection. That was also a knock on Blount and a lot of rookies. I think it will play out similarly, Hunter will get attention and carve out a role while Gore is not 100% and eventually be getting the majority of the carries by seasons end. Feel free to bring this up later if I have crow to eat.

 

[chinawildman]

what would be your better example? Besides how he ended up on the Bucs roster and the fact that he emerged in week 6 (his third game playing) I don't see how my comparison is as far off/wrong as each of you are making it out to be. Another thing everyone is saying is that Kendall is a liability in pass protection. That was also a knock on Blount and a lot of rookies. I think it will play out similarly, Hunter will get attention and carve out a role while Gore is not 100% and eventually be getting the majority of the carries by seasons end. Feel free to bring this up later if I have crow to eat.

Larry Johnson / Jamaal Charles is more analogous to this situation IMO.

 

[the spanker]

Gore is fine Harbaugh said "he's good to go for Sunday" not sure the Kendall Hunter era will begin anytime soon due to Gore's contract, I don't think he's has healthy as he tried to make everyone believe to start the season and the injury after the Cinci game seemed more like an excuse performing so poorly IMO. Looks like he suckered the San Fran suites to give him a contract though LOL

lol. how could harbaugh possibly know that.

Umm... just maybe because he's personally talked to Gore?Why wouldn't he know?

 

[cvnpoka]

bc the game is 6 days away

 

[oldmoney]

Until teams get afriad of the passing game in S.F. not gonna be alot of room to run in S.F. for any of their backs.

As far as I recall, SF hasn't had a viable passing attack since Garcia. And yet Gore has put up good numbers over the past 5 years with no real threat from the QB position. How has this changed this season? (honest question, SF is waay off my radar at the moment)

Because the Niners were getting their heads cracked and having to come from behind alot gave Gore running room. this year they have been competetive to the end so teams are stacking the line til the end. let them start getting beat by a couple TD's and watch Gore look good again. with that defense though those games are few and far between.

Thank you. That response makes the most sense.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Until teams get afriad of the passing game in S.F. not gonna be alot of room to run in S.F. for any of their backs.

As far as I recall, SF hasn't had a viable passing attack since Garcia. And yet Gore has put up good numbers over the past 5 years with no real threat from the QB position. How has this changed this season? (honest question, SF is waay off my radar at the moment)

Because the Niners were getting their heads cracked and having to come from behind alot gave Gore running room. this year they have been competetive to the end so teams are stacking the line til the end. let them start getting beat by a couple TD's and watch Gore look good again. with that defense though those games are few and far between.

Thank you. That response makes the most sense.

So Gore has only performed well late in the game when the 'niners were getting blown out over the last five years?

 

[LittlePhatty]

Because the Niners were getting their heads cracked and having to come from behind alot gave Gore running room.

How does playing from behind = opening up the running game?Usually people cite that argument to say "playing from behind means they'll be passing a ton."

 

[oldmoney]

Until teams get afriad of the passing game in S.F. not gonna be alot of room to run in S.F. for any of their backs.

As far as I recall, SF hasn't had a viable passing attack since Garcia. And yet Gore has put up good numbers over the past 5 years with no real threat from the QB position. How has this changed this season? (honest question, SF is waay off my radar at the moment)

Because the Niners were getting their heads cracked and having to come from behind alot gave Gore running room. this year they have been competetive to the end so teams are stacking the line til the end. let them start getting beat by a couple TD's and watch Gore look good again. with that defense though those games are few and far between.

Thank you. That response makes the most sense.

So Gore has only performed well late in the game when the 'niners were getting blown out over the last five years?

Good question, let's see what the Game log dominator says. From 2007-2010, Gore has averaged 11.45 fantasy points in a loss and 18.34 in a win. That's not really what we're after, but it makes some sense: how Gore goes, the Niners go.Here's a better cut...Gore averaged 14.61 fantasy points if the final score difference was a TD or less (close game), 15.46 fantasy points if the final score difference as 2 TDs or less, and 12.84 fantasy points if more than 2 TDs. Here are some examples of his worst statistical games in blowouts (W or L, +14 pts):Wk 10 2007, 13/72/0 in 0-24 loss to SEA.Wk 8 2007, 12/41/0 in 10-31 loss to NO.Wk 3 2007, 14/39/0 in 16-37 loss to PIT.Wk 11 2010, 12/23/0 in 0-21 loss to TB.Wk 3 2010, 15/43/0 in 10-31 loss to KC.Conversely, here are his best games in blowouts:Wk 17 2009, 23/107/2 in 28-6 win over STL.Wk 14 2009, 25/167/1 in 24-9 win over ARI.Wk 11 2008, 18/106/2 in 35-16 win over STL.Wk 3 2008, 27/130/1 in 31-13 win over DET.Wk 8 2008, 18/94/0 in 13-34 loss to SEA.My take on this is that it does not confirm the hypothesis. Like most RBs, if the team does well, he does well.

 

[footballnerd]

Because the Niners were getting their heads cracked and having to come from behind alot gave Gore running room.

How does playing from behind = opening up the running game?Usually people cite that argument to say "playing from behind means they'll be passing a ton."

facing prevent/pass oriented defenses

 

[chinawildman]

Until teams get afriad of the passing game in S.F. not gonna be alot of room to run in S.F. for any of their backs.

As far as I recall, SF hasn't had a viable passing attack since Garcia. And yet Gore has put up good numbers over the past 5 years with no real threat from the QB position. How has this changed this season? (honest question, SF is waay off my radar at the moment)

Because the Niners were getting their heads cracked and having to come from behind alot gave Gore running room. this year they have been competetive to the end so teams are stacking the line til the end. let them start getting beat by a couple TD's and watch Gore look good again. with that defense though those games are few and far between.

Thank you. That response makes the most sense.

So Gore has only performed well late in the game when the 'niners were getting blown out over the last five years?

Good question, let's see what the Game log dominator says. From 2007-2010, Gore has averaged 11.45 fantasy points in a loss and 18.34 in a win. That's not really what we're after, but it makes some sense: how Gore goes, the Niners go.Here's a better cut...Gore averaged 14.61 fantasy points if the final score difference was a TD or less (close game), 15.46 fantasy points if the final score difference as 2 TDs or less, and 12.84 fantasy points if more than 2 TDs. Here are some examples of his worst statistical games in blowouts (W or L, +14 pts):Wk 10 2007, 13/72/0 in 0-24 loss to SEA.Wk 8 2007, 12/41/0 in 10-31 loss to NO.Wk 3 2007, 14/39/0 in 16-37 loss to PIT.Wk 11 2010, 12/23/0 in 0-21 loss to TB.Wk 3 2010, 15/43/0 in 10-31 loss to KC.Conversely, here are his best games in blowouts:Wk 17 2009, 23/107/2 in 28-6 win over STL.Wk 14 2009, 25/167/1 in 24-9 win over ARI.Wk 11 2008, 18/106/2 in 35-16 win over STL.Wk 3 2008, 27/130/1 in 31-13 win over DET.Wk 8 2008, 18/94/0 in 13-34 loss to SEA.My take on this is that it does not confirm the hypothesis. Like most RBs, if the team does well, he does well.

Nicely done.

 

[Reepicheep]

Until teams get afriad of the passing game in S.F. not gonna be alot of room to run in S.F. for any of their backs.

As far as I recall, SF hasn't had a viable passing attack since Garcia. And yet Gore has put up good numbers over the past 5 years with no real threat from the QB position. How has this changed this season? (honest question, SF is waay off my radar at the moment)

Because the Niners were getting their heads cracked and having to come from behind alot gave Gore running room. this year they have been competetive to the end so teams are stacking the line til the end. let them start getting beat by a couple TD's and watch Gore look good again. with that defense though those games are few and far between.

Thank you. That response makes the most sense.

So Gore has only performed well late in the game when the 'niners were getting blown out over the last five years?

Good question, let's see what the Game log dominator says. From 2007-2010, Gore has averaged 11.45 fantasy points in a loss and 18.34 in a win. That's not really what we're after, but it makes some sense: how Gore goes, the Niners go.Here's a better cut...Gore averaged 14.61 fantasy points if the final score difference was a TD or less (close game), 15.46 fantasy points if the final score difference as 2 TDs or less, and 12.84 fantasy points if more than 2 TDs. Here are some examples of his worst statistical games in blowouts (W or L, +14 pts):Wk 10 2007, 13/72/0 in 0-24 loss to SEA.Wk 8 2007, 12/41/0 in 10-31 loss to NO.Wk 3 2007, 14/39/0 in 16-37 loss to PIT.Wk 11 2010, 12/23/0 in 0-21 loss to TB.Wk 3 2010, 15/43/0 in 10-31 loss to KC.Conversely, here are his best games in blowouts:Wk 17 2009, 23/107/2 in 28-6 win over STL.Wk 14 2009, 25/167/1 in 24-9 win over ARI.Wk 11 2008, 18/106/2 in 35-16 win over STL.Wk 3 2008, 27/130/1 in 31-13 win over DET.Wk 8 2008, 18/94/0 in 13-34 loss to SEA.My take on this is that it does not confirm the hypothesis. Like most RBs, if the team does well, he does well.

Now if you could find some data in the Game Log Dominator that will show us that Gore is going to rebound and have some great games going forward, that would be ace.

 

[LittlePhatty]

Because the Niners were getting their heads cracked and having to come from behind alot gave Gore running room.

How does playing from behind = opening up the running game?Usually people cite that argument to say "playing from behind means they'll be passing a ton."

facing prevent/pass oriented defenses

Because the losing team needs to pass more instead of plow through the line 4 yards at a time.The stats above show that losing the game means worse stats for Gore.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Until teams get afriad of the passing game in S.F. not gonna be alot of room to run in S.F. for any of their backs.

As far as I recall, SF hasn't had a viable passing attack since Garcia. And yet Gore has put up good numbers over the past 5 years with no real threat from the QB position. How has this changed this season? (honest question, SF is waay off my radar at the moment)

Because the Niners were getting their heads cracked and having to come from behind alot gave Gore running room. this year they have been competetive to the end so teams are stacking the line til the end. let them start getting beat by a couple TD's and watch Gore look good again. with that defense though those games are few and far between.

Thank you. That response makes the most sense.

So Gore has only performed well late in the game when the 'niners were getting blown out over the last five years?

Good question, let's see what the Game log dominator says. From 2007-2010, Gore has averaged 11.45 fantasy points in a loss and 18.34 in a win. That's not really what we're after, but it makes some sense: how Gore goes, the Niners go.Here's a better cut...Gore averaged 14.61 fantasy points if the final score difference was a TD or less (close game), 15.46 fantasy points if the final score difference as 2 TDs or less, and 12.84 fantasy points if more than 2 TDs. Here are some examples of his worst statistical games in blowouts (W or L, +14 pts):Wk 10 2007, 13/72/0 in 0-24 loss to SEA.Wk 8 2007, 12/41/0 in 10-31 loss to NO.Wk 3 2007, 14/39/0 in 16-37 loss to PIT.Wk 11 2010, 12/23/0 in 0-21 loss to TB.Wk 3 2010, 15/43/0 in 10-31 loss to KC.Conversely, here are his best games in blowouts:Wk 17 2009, 23/107/2 in 28-6 win over STL.Wk 14 2009, 25/167/1 in 24-9 win over ARI.Wk 11 2008, 18/106/2 in 35-16 win over STL.Wk 3 2008, 27/130/1 in 31-13 win over DET.Wk 8 2008, 18/94/0 in 13-34 loss to SEA.My take on this is that it does not confirm the hypothesis. Like most RBs, if the team does well, he does well.

Thanks. That's the point I was trying to make that the poster you quoted was giving out not quite accurate analysis.

 

[oldmoney]

Yup, the hypothesis seemed plausible though ultimately inaccurate.

I'm still no closer to understanding how the passing game is more or less the same, but clearly there are fewer holes this year. Did the blocking scheme change?

 

[chinawildman]

Yup, the hypothesis seemed plausible though ultimately inaccurate. I'm still no closer to understanding how the passing game is more or less the same, but clearly there are fewer holes this year. Did the blocking scheme change?

Yes they're employing more zone blocking and more varied run plays in their arsenal, but again, I think people are just reaching for excuses here. Gore has been fine through 6 or 7 diff O coordinators and reasons like the line play or blocking schemes were never relevant.If people would watch the games, and instead of just looking at stats, they'd realize that hunter looks quicker than gore at the moment and actually gets more yards after contact despite being 20 lbs lighter.

 

[footballnerd]

Because the Niners were getting their heads cracked and having to come from behind alot gave Gore running room.

How does playing from behind = opening up the running game?Usually people cite that argument to say "playing from behind means they'll be passing a ton."

facing prevent/pass oriented defenses

Because the losing team needs to pass more instead of plow through the line 4 yards at a time.The stats above show that losing the game means worse stats for Gore.

good thing Gore is effective in the passing game too, lots of under stuff for an RB. I don't own him this year but I've owned him in the past and did not fear potential blowout games.As for the waiver owners with their fresh new toy in Hunter....RBBC at best unless there is an injury.

 

[Louisville Slugger]

For what it's worth Frank Gore did not participate in practice today according to two seperate reports (one over at Rotoworld + 1 local radio guy) that both claim Gore was favoring his injured ankle/foot and looked "gimpy"

 

[Louisville Slugger]

For what it's worth Frank Gore did not participate in practice today according to two seperate reports (one over at Rotoworld + 1 local radio guy) that both claim Gore was favoring his injured ankle/foot and looked "gimpy"

For the record Rotoworld updated their story to say that Gore was "limited" in practice.

 

[gcoast3]

Yup, the hypothesis seemed plausible though ultimately inaccurate. I'm still no closer to understanding how the passing game is more or less the same, but clearly there are fewer holes this year. Did the blocking scheme change?

Yes they're employing more zone blocking and more varied run plays in their arsenal, but again, I think people are just reaching for excuses here. Gore has been fine through 6 or 7 diff O coordinators and reasons like the line play or blocking schemes were never relevant.If people would watch the games, and instead of just looking at stats, they'd realize that hunter looks quicker than gore at the moment and actually gets more yards after contact despite being 20 lbs lighter.

Hard to believe Hunter looks much quicker. Hunter has 11 carries for 30 yards. Not exactly great stats.

 

[chinawildman]

Yup, the hypothesis seemed plausible though ultimately inaccurate. I'm still no closer to understanding how the passing game is more or less the same, but clearly there are fewer holes this year. Did the blocking scheme change?

Yes they're employing more zone blocking and more varied run plays in their arsenal, but again, I think people are just reaching for excuses here. Gore has been fine through 6 or 7 diff O coordinators and reasons like the line play or blocking schemes were never relevant.If people would watch the games, and instead of just looking at stats, they'd realize that hunter looks quicker than gore at the moment and actually gets more yards after contact despite being 20 lbs lighter.

Hard to believe Hunter looks much quicker. Hunter has 11 carries for 30 yards. Not exactly great stats.

So by your logic, Chris Johnson is the most "unquick" RB of them all averaging 2 yards per carry.... Go watch the game, then tell me how they LOOK. (hint: Hunter's last 5 carries were all straight ahead dives to run clock and setup FGs in Bengals territory after Dalton INTs)

 

[cvnpoka]

just watched the bengals game. hunter def looks quicker, but he looks pretty slight. he deserves touches, no reason for gore to play 109 out of 116 snaps,as they did the first 2 games. gore actually looked fine in the cinci game. hes never been a dynamic wow type runner, just consistently finds the right hole and runs thru tackles like they arent there.

as a gore owner in a bunch of leagues, the situation i hope this most resembles is benson/scott :drank:

 

[gcoast3]

Yup, the hypothesis seemed plausible though ultimately inaccurate. I'm still no closer to understanding how the passing game is more or less the same, but clearly there are fewer holes this year. Did the blocking scheme change?

Yes they're employing more zone blocking and more varied run plays in their arsenal, but again, I think people are just reaching for excuses here. Gore has been fine through 6 or 7 diff O coordinators and reasons like the line play or blocking schemes were never relevant.If people would watch the games, and instead of just looking at stats, they'd realize that hunter looks quicker than gore at the moment and actually gets more yards after contact despite being 20 lbs lighter.

Hard to believe Hunter looks much quicker. Hunter has 11 carries for 30 yards. Not exactly great stats.

So by your logic, Chris Johnson is the most "unquick" RB of them all averaging 2 yards per carry.... Go watch the game, then tell me how they LOOK. (hint: Hunter's last 5 carries were all straight ahead dives to run clock and setup FGs in Bengals territory after Dalton INTs)

It's important not to let a nine-carry, 26-yard game from Hunter suddenly anoint him king of the 49'er backfield. He's a promising rookie who looks like he might be able to carry the load once Gore falls off, but that day is not today.

 

[chinawildman]

Yup, the hypothesis seemed plausible though ultimately inaccurate. I'm still no closer to understanding how the passing game is more or less the same, but clearly there are fewer holes this year. Did the blocking scheme change?

Yes they're employing more zone blocking and more varied run plays in their arsenal, but again, I think people are just reaching for excuses here. Gore has been fine through 6 or 7 diff O coordinators and reasons like the line play or blocking schemes were never relevant.If people would watch the games, and instead of just looking at stats, they'd realize that hunter looks quicker than gore at the moment and actually gets more yards after contact despite being 20 lbs lighter.

Hard to believe Hunter looks much quicker. Hunter has 11 carries for 30 yards. Not exactly great stats.

So by your logic, Chris Johnson is the most "unquick" RB of them all averaging 2 yards per carry.... Go watch the game, then tell me how they LOOK. (hint: Hunter's last 5 carries were all straight ahead dives to run clock and setup FGs in Bengals territory after Dalton INTs)

It's important not to let a nine-carry, 26-yard game from Hunter suddenly anoint him king of the 49'er backfield. He's a promising rookie who looks like he might be able to carry the load once Gore falls off, but that day is not today.

Of course not. But the fact remains that Gore is falling faster than anyone imagined. His one caveat since being in the league was the ability to get to the second level and beat his man to get huge chunks. IMO he no longer has the burst or power to do so and just goes down too easily. It's sad but in week one Earl Thomas was owning him one on one.Unless Gore improves dramatically in the upcoming weeks (which is possible since Eagles are near dead last against the run), this is going full blown committee very soon.

 

[jackdubl]

The only way Hunter sees significant time is if Gore goes down with an ankle or something. Since this happens about four out of every five years, I currently have Hunter at the end of my bench waiting for the next hot thing to take his place.

 

[the spanker]

Yup, the hypothesis seemed plausible though ultimately inaccurate.

I'm still no closer to understanding how the passing game is more or less the same, but clearly there are fewer holes this year. Did the blocking scheme change?

Yes they're employing more zone blocking and more varied run plays in their arsenal, but again, I think people are just reaching for excuses here. Gore has been fine through 6 or 7 diff O coordinators and reasons like the line play or blocking schemes were never relevant.If people would watch the games, and instead of just looking at stats, they'd realize that hunter looks quicker than gore at the moment and actually gets more yards after contact despite being 20 lbs lighter.

Hard to believe Hunter looks much quicker. Hunter has 11 carries for 30 yards. Not exactly great stats.

So by your logic, Chris Johnson is the most "unquick" RB of them all averaging 2 yards per carry.... Go watch the game, then tell me how they LOOK. (hint: Hunter's last 5 carries were all straight ahead dives to run clock and setup FGs in Bengals territory after Dalton INTs)

It's important not to let a nine-carry, 26-yard game from Hunter suddenly anoint him king of the 49'er backfield. He's a promising rookie who looks like he might be able to carry the load once Gore falls off, but that day is not today.

Of course not. But the fact remains that Gore is falling faster than anyone imagined. His one caveat since being in the league was the ability to get to the second level and beat his man to get huge chunks. IMO he no longer has the burst or power to do so and just goes down too easily. It's sad but in week one Earl Thomas was owning him one on one.Unless Gore improves dramatically in the upcoming weeks (which is possible since Eagles are near dead last against the run), this is going full blown committee very soon.

Sorry I'm not buying he doesn't have the burst or power to get to the 2nd level.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/09000d5d82226f5d/RB-Gore-16-yd-run

The QB is killing him with no threat of a passing game and teams are stacking the box.

 

[LittlePhatty]

He's a promising rookie who looks like he might be able to carry the load once Gore falls off, but that day is not today.

Definitely not today. Probably Sunday, October 2nd.

 

[Steel5699]

Gore - 2.5ypc, Hunter - 2.7ypc Doesn't really seem like something to get all excited about. Poor line and QB play will doom both backs...

 

[Grahamburn]

Gore - 2.5ypc, Hunter - 2.7ypc Doesn't really seem like something to get all excited about. Poor line and QB play will doom both backs...

Quick, someone post how Hunter's last five carries were dives right into the defense!

 

[Raider Nation]

If this guy is available in your league, pick him up immediately.

First, he looked super quick and explosive on his TD run. He also chipped in 44 total yards. Secondly, Gore got dinged up again today, though he is expected to play next week. But perhaps most importantly, the Niners will have that sorry division wrapped up about five minutes from now. Hunter can expect to see a TON of work during your fantasy playoffs.

I've had him stashed all season and haven't started him once. He could be a home run for you when it matters most.

 

[shadyridr]

think i might start him next week vs arizona regardless of gore playing due to fosters bye

 

[Hendo]

i still find it funny rereading the previous statements on hunters per carry average after 15 total carries on the year, half those were to run out the clock too lol

top 10 RB talent if Gore goes down and possibly the best back up RB in the game (i like him as much as Stewart)

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I started him today, I thought there was a good chance he'd get opportunities today. Between SF possibly wrapping things up early and resting Gore to Gore actually being hurt and Hunter playing in his absence, he could be huge down the stretch.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

If this guy is available in your league, pick him up immediately.

First, he looked super quick and explosive on his TD run. He also chipped in 44 total yards. Secondly, Gore got dinged up again today, though he is expected to play next week. But perhaps most importantly, the Niners will have that sorry division wrapped up about five minutes from now. Hunter can expect to see a TON of work during your fantasy playoffs.

I've had him stashed all season and haven't started him once. He could be a home run for you when it matters most.

good post

 

[NajehHejan]

I have Hunter stashed and am hopeful he gets a lot of work down the stretch due to Gore injuries, but you can't assume SF will rest a healthy Gore just because they win the NFC West early. They only have 1 loss and are clearly in the mix for one of the top 2 seeds and a first round bye.