I think Walker went into the NFL draft without playing his senior year.
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RB Kenneth Walker III - SEA (3 Viewers)
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Sorry but they were drafted one year apart and are 3 months difference in age. Why is that crazy or something? Truly don't get it, thought this was sarcasm at first.
This is not like say Kyle Pitts who just had his 5th year option picked up and is younger then about half the TE's that got drafted this year.
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
I think it's a good example of "football years", especially for RBs. Walker feels like he's been in the league a lot longer than he has.
jm192
Footballguy
I've seen/heard/read enough about him being a workhorse that I believe it.
I've moved Walker up to RB11. I think he's one of the more talented rushers in the league. I think he'll see most of the work. I've started targeting him a lot in best ball over the past few weeks, and think he's a fantastic value.
Charbonnet I've moved down quite a bit. I thought he was going to be a handcuff that saw fairly significant work. Now I just think he's a handcuff. I think you're moreso hoping for injury or even a trade to give him value. Dallas, anybody?
I've moved Walker up to RB11. I think he's one of the more talented rushers in the league. I think he'll see most of the work. I've started targeting him a lot in best ball over the past few weeks, and think he's a fantastic value.
Charbonnet I've moved down quite a bit. I thought he was going to be a handcuff that saw fairly significant work. Now I just think he's a handcuff. I think you're moreso hoping for injury or even a trade to give him value. Dallas, anybody?
Chaka
Footballguy
I agree for the most part but Charbonnet should be one of the first backup RBs drafted. Walker has had trouble staying on the field in his first two seasons.
Shhhhhhhhh
BIRDGANG52
Footballguy
He's being drafted way too low. He's a Top 5 runner in the league and one of the few guys who doesn't have an ACL tear or an achilles to his name. League winner type.
Gjallarhorn
Footballguy
However, he has an equally competent running back roommate with the same draft capital and a better YPC last season. There is also the unknown of how the new OC is going to use the two RBs.
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
Disagree on the “equally competent”. While Charbs is obviously capable, he doesn’t have the same explosive ability of KW.
Oh not this again. We went through this last year.
Walker is much better than Charbs. Charbs was drafted as nothing more than a backup.
Gjallarhorn
Footballguy
maybe so, but you cannot simply overlook the fact that Charbonnet had a better YPC and more catches than Walker III last season. I personally do not think that Charbonnet is better than Walker III, but I do not think that Charbonnet prevents Walker III from being a lock for a top 5 RB this season.
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
Sure, but what also cannot be overlooked is that this is a different coaching staff implementing a new offense. Nothing but glowing reports coming out on KW this off-season, talks of being used as a pass catcher etc.
I do believe Charbs is one of the top backups/Handcuffs in the league. But I would be surprised if this wasn’t a 70-30 split in favor of KW this year.
jm192
Footballguy
A different coaching staff wanted Charbonnet. He's a good back. But the new coaching staff didn't have any input in bringing him here. No allegience. They've gushed over Walker all off-season.
I certainly wouldn't call Wallker a lock for the top 5. I've got him at RB11.
But I actually feel really solid on the prediction that Walker winds up as an RB1, and he's going as RB15-17 most places.
I was so disappointed with Walker last season that I had planned on replacing him with a combo of Spears and C Brown (keeper auction league).
As week 1 gets closer that is starting to seem like a really dumb decision. I have a tendency to chase the shiny new thing.
It is good to hear that the new coaches like him. I think will dust off my K9 Fan Club badge.
As week 1 gets closer that is starting to seem like a really dumb decision. I have a tendency to chase the shiny new thing.
It is good to hear that the new coaches like him. I think will dust off my K9 Fan Club badge.
Walker has the talent and opportunity to be a top 10 RB. The other two don't.
Seems like an easy decision depending on the auction value.
Good luck
Big Nate
Footballguy
I was very high on Charbs coming out of college. I thought he would be a thorn in Walker's side. It didn't materialize. Walker showed what he can do when he's healthy and it is RB1 material. If healthy I can see Walker finishing top 12 (RB1).
Great value right now for a guy that can hit 1200+ rushing with 10TDs. In PPR he maybe takes a slight hit as he likely won't get a ton of targets but even then his ADP is so low its a value.
TripItUp
Footballguy
my post from July of last year...unfortunately, many of you didn't listen
let's see some of the "sharks" take accountability for their incorrect Charbonnet takes last year.
BIRDGANG52
Footballguy
Charbonnet vs Walker is just a reprisal of what's going on in Atlanta. Allegier and Robinson are both good. Allegier is a much better player than most team's starting RB except for the team he plays for.
Seems like one of these teams should be picking up the phone and calling Dallas or vice versa. That's why guys like Charbonnet and Allegier have value though, when a guy like that switches teams his value goes through the roof. Put Charbonnet in a Dallas jersey right now and he's going in the 4th round of fantasy drafts.
Seems like one of these teams should be picking up the phone and calling Dallas or vice versa. That's why guys like Charbonnet and Allegier have value though, when a guy like that switches teams his value goes through the roof. Put Charbonnet in a Dallas jersey right now and he's going in the 4th round of fantasy drafts.
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I was not high on Charbs but I thought he'd be a thorn in Walkers side, and IMO he was exactly that. So to me most of the takes around here being concerned about Charbs limiting his upside were dead on.
The incorrect take was the one that went along the lines of Walker is not an efficient runner and Charbs would relegate Walker to being more of the COP.
Big Nate
Footballguy
No one needs to be called out. If they want to be accountable and reflect back on their takes and learn from it then great. If not they will keep making the same mistakes.
I'm not beyond myself to admin when I'm wrong. Having said that many football scouts had Charbs with a decent rating/ranking coming out of college. These things happen. Maybe he wasn't a good fit or used right. I thought he would be a bit of a threat, especially in GL and 3rd downs.
I'm high on Walker this year as I believe in his running ability and talen. Charbs could improve this year and make strides and push for more work. It doesn't really change my opinion of Walker in that hes a very good runner. Walker is the starter as long as he is healthy.
All I am saying is there is a possibility Charbs is improved this year and better under a different coaching staff (new HC). No need to throw shade and call people out - it does not help these forums and just causes issues. Let's just talk football.
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there is no question in my mind Walker is the back to own here. his performance was lower than expected last year because if injury and because the team as a whole was worse than expected as well (no garbage time) if the team is good enough to make the playoffs, Walker will be a legit RB1. if they dont make it, its dicey. likely RB12-16
msudaisy26
Footballguy
So we were supposed to listen to your no one really knows take? How do you know we didn't?
Houston turmOiler
Footballguy
Well it was a 6 point game. Seems like he would have been in there.
LionOfGosforth
Footballguy
Underrated again this year generally as usual, great runner but maddeningly doesn't get used in the passing game and tends to get dinged, all part of the package I guess.
The Gator
Footballguy
Left the game with an ab injury. Might be precautionary, but still unknown
eta, I see the Sleeper glitch now.
Those alerts are like they let my wife take control of notifications
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Gruden's Keyboard
Footballguy
Wonder if the abdominal injury occurred on his unnecessary dive into the end zone 
LawFitz
Footballguy
Wonder if the abdominal injury occurred on his unnecessary dive into the end zone
Nope, it happened when he got off the bus. Luv K9 except that he is made of glass.
This is what I was wondering as well. Stupid.Wonder if the abdominal injury occurred on his unnecessary dive into the end zone
I'm looking for the same update. I have an opportunity to grab Charbonet and drop Algier. I may do it anyhow just to be safe, but I don't have bench space to keep both.
LawFitz
Footballguy
My recollection of having him on my team last year was that he was one of those backs that would play with nicks, but never look quite right when he did. I'm hoping he's either fully good or sits until he is.
Big Nate
Footballguy
From what I know right now I say Charbs. I probably prefer Algeier with that potential offense and workload ROS if Bijan gets hurt but Bijan got all the work last game. It is only 1 week but Charbs looks to have more opportunity for work this week.
If you need a RB this week I say Charbs. I do like both though. I know you say you don't have anyone else to drop but you have to have a roster clogging WR or back-up TE you can cut loose.
Ugh. And I just traded for him. Well, I’d rather him sit one week than make it worse and miss multiple.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
It’s only Wednesday
Insein
Footballguy
I moved him to my flex in case.
For sure. But I was at least hoping he’d be limited.
At least he plays in the early time slot on Sunday because McDonald looks like he's going to be giving the bare minimum injury info all year.
I'll say in the leagues I got Charbs I'll be glad he sits. Got a few leagues I got him I feel so much worse about my RB's then I did last week, kicking myself for not getting Charbs and will sting me if he's out.
I'll say in the leagues I got Charbs I'll be glad he sits. Got a few leagues I got him I feel so much worse about my RB's then I did last week, kicking myself for not getting Charbs and will sting me if he's out.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Same.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Groin/herbia/abdomen injuries can be all over the map. Since we don’t know exactly what this is, we just don’t know.
I’m concerned because this was described as a new injury, and he couldn’t finish the game. There are quite a few things that it could be in that part of the body. None particularly awesome or short-term.
Fingers crossed it’s precautionary.
