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RB Royce Freeman, LAR (1 Viewer)
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Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
What have I been wrong about? So far Freeman and his 7 fantasy points hasn't justified his draft stock.
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joffer
Footballguy
Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
The only position I've been trying to sell is that Royce Freeman is over hyped , over drafted and that many in this thread have Rookie fever.
I have not been wrong about that.
Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
@TheFanatic
Remember, this grudge is about Royce Freeman. Him having a fantasy year worthy of his inflated draft spot will be a referendum on which of us was "right".
Remember, this grudge is about Royce Freeman. Him having a fantasy year worthy of his inflated draft spot will be a referendum on which of us was "right".
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
Like, you guys need to realize I like Royce Freeman as a talent. But the cost of the talent is more important than the talent itself.
I'm not going to spend $50 on a $20 steak.
I'm not going to spend $50 on a $20 steak.
Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
I'm cool with being wrong about that. I'm happy he got the job! But Freeman still has to, you know, produce.
71 yards rushing yards is good for NFL and great in standard. Not so great in PPR though.
Like I said before, reminds me of Legarette Blount. Gonna need to score some RZ touchdowns to make value.
Hopefully, (and I mean this sincerely) he gets more involved with the passing game.
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Elevencents
Footballguy
Alright ladies take your little slap fight to PM’s. 
I don’t think anyone saw this coming. Really liked Royce’s chances when they finally came to their senses and named him the starter. Booker is dead man walking but still a RBBC and they are def going the hot hand route. I still think Royce will get it done but maybe not to the level a lot of us hoped.
I don’t think anyone saw this coming. Really liked Royce’s chances when they finally came to their senses and named him the starter. Booker is dead man walking but still a RBBC and they are def going the hot hand route. I still think Royce will get it done but maybe not to the level a lot of us hoped.
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ex-ghost
Footballguy
Everyone be way cooler on this.
shadyridr
Footballguy
Quite the hot take on those podcasts. One guy is 5'7" 184 and the other is 6' 230. Given that, it's pretty crazy Freeman actually has a better agility score than Lindsay:
https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/royce-freeman/
https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/phillip-lindsay/
ETA: week 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9_f5LdXF78
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Don't Noonan
Footballguy
Freeman looked great and averaged 5 yards a carry in his first start. He is definately the back to own in Denver regardless of format.
Think it depends on how the game plays out. Seattle is OK against the run, and the Broncos were down in the 4th so Lindsay and Booker are going to get their targets.But yes, Lindsay will be involved for sure so it is still an RBBC to a degree.
There's a few things going for Freeman this week. I don't expect this game to be competitive at all and can see the Broncos blowing out the Raiders pretty bad. Broncos offensive line is going to absolutely dismantle the Raiders d-line. Carr should have a lot of 3-and-outs meaning more snaps for the offense/Freeman. Think he gets over 100 yards, with a TD or even two.
Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
he looks OK but he's just splitting too many snaps with Lindsay, and Lindsay is a big play guy and frankly a more exciting player, on top of the pass catching. The redzone touches are OK but you can't rely on that.
Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
Where is everyone? I thought this was going to be a party!
Hope you guys had making fun of me all off-season. Because reality just hit you guys square in the jaw.
I was just trying to help you guys out. I always get the last laugh...
Hope you guys had making fun of me all off-season. Because reality just hit you guys square in the jaw.
I was just trying to help you guys out. I always get the last laugh...
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
Sorry....no. 2 weeks into the season. Laugh all you want but Freeman is the best running back on Denver's roster.Where is everyone? I thought this was going to be a party!
Hope you guys had making fun of me all off-season. Because reality just hit you guys square in the jaw.
I was just trying to help you guys out. I always get the last laugh...
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
But you said a rookie wouldn't take over and Booker would start?Where is everyone? I thought this was going to be a party!
Hope you guys had making fun of me all off-season. Because reality just hit you guys square in the jaw.
I was just trying to help you guys out. I always get the last laugh...
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Lindsay had 15 touches compared to eight for Royce Freeman and three for Devontae Booker as he was the first Denver running back to ever have over 100-yards from scrimmage in each of his first two career games in franchise history. Lindsay has built off a strong preseason to overtake a lead role in this Denver backfield, but still doesn't have a firm grasp on the goal line work, which will keep him as a RB2/FLEX option Week 3 when the Broncos head to Baltimore.
Poor, poor freeman owners
Poor, poor freeman owners
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
Lindsay is great, Freeman is too. If you’re betting a 185lb back survives 20 touches a game much longer you’re smoking some strong stuff. Also, gloating after week 2? Pretty damn foolish. Hope that pays off for you when all is said and done.
Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
I wouldn't say that was my thesis statement on the topic. I thought Booker would hold onto the job a little longer than he did as the incumbent starter.
I'm totally cool admitting I was wrong about that. Unfortunately for you, that doesn't magically score Royce Freeman fantasy points.
Remember, this is the Royce Freeman thread. @TheFanatic and others chose to die on this hill. You're the ones who burned an early 4th round pick on him.
Even if I was wrong about Booker getting carries, I still don't have the blood of drafting this guy early on my hands.
In fact, I was able to get Lindsay in a few leagues so I feel great!
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Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
Oh yeah, gloating after Week 2 is bush league. But these guys were gloating and ridiculing me AFTER preseason.
Turnabout is fair play!
Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
Come on guys, give your buddy Stu a big hug! I'm here to love all of you and give you good fantasy football advice.
The last time I had this much fun was when I predicted that David Wilson (RB - NYG) would bust.
You can lead a horse to water...
The last time I had this much fun was when I predicted that David Wilson (RB - NYG) would bust.
You can lead a horse to water...
Elevencents
Footballguy
Everyone keeps saying these small backs won’t hold up. But I wouldn’t be surprised to see Lindsay and Breida both finish top 25, maybe even top 20. If they are used right, pretty much how they are right now, they will continue to be reliable on a week to week basis all season.
How long has Sproles been in the league killing it?
How long has Sproles been in the league killing it?
Deamon
Footballguy
You're making yourself really unlikable. And I don't even own or like Freeman. You were (are so far) as wrong about Booker as the others were about Freeman. Would still take Freeman over Booker and it's not even close.
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
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Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
I love rostering the athletic satellites and have plenty of Lindsay and Breida. That being said, Sproles did his damage in space. Part of his carries came from draws or off-tackle. SF and DEN are pounding these guys up the middle. There have been instances of success over individual seasons, Warrick Dunn and Steve Slaton come to mind, but Sproles has had his fair share of injuries and Slaton was never the same after he got ran into the ground. Recent examples of guys who got ran into the ground in college and couldn’t hold up at that weight in the pros are Justin Jackson and Donnell Pumphrey. History suggests that these backs are better served to be under 15 touches per game.
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Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
What don't you understand? This isn't about Booker. He was an 11th round footnote.
The story here is the guy that crept up to the 3rd round and was going to be a stud week in and week out.
I'm the only one who had the balls to say that wouldn't happen. Replace Booker with Lindsay and it's still the RBBC I predicted.
I also mentioned frequently that Freeman was a 3 yards a cloud of dust runner. Convenient you don't bring that up...
Don't fault me for not having a crystal ball regarding Lindsay! Nobody saw that coming.
Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
Not at all. But when somebody treats me like a piece of garbage over my fantasy football opinion that ended up being RIGHT.
Damn right I'm going to run their noses in it. If you know who I am, I have a great track record in fantasy. I'm the guy who started the first Leveon Bell and DeAndre Hopkins thread, fwiw. So when Iknow I'm right like in this situation, it's just plain fun.
Believe me. I don't take pleasure in the misery of others. But I sure as hell enjoy making those who try to make me miserable pay.
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Deamon
Footballguy
Then don't fault others for not having a crystal ball regarding him either. If Lindsay wasn't doing what he was doing, Freeman would be getting 75% of the team's carries. The only thing we know so far is that Booker isn't the guy, Freeman was gonna be the guy, but Lindsay came out of nowhere and is deserving of more and more touches.
This situation is more an attribute to Lindsay and not a sleight on Freeman. Jeez, you look desperate to be right and gloat here. C'mon dude.
My apologies. I didn't realize what a legendary fantasy rep you have. Had I known, I'd have rushed out and invested in Booker. Ooops
Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
Listen man, this is personal. I was treated like a non-human in this thread. And you know what? The chickens have come to roost.
Even if Freeman got more carries, his 3.5 YPC doesn't inspire much confidence for a bigger fantasy day. He's Legarette Blount lite.
I wish the guy would have accepted my bet. I love taking money from egotistical people. In 2016, posters in this board made a bet with me that Donald Trump wouldn't be elected.
He was almost as smug as the guys in this thread were.
Deamon
Footballguy
Bragging about this quality??? You seem like you'd be a tough person to hang out with. This whole post is awful.
And gloating over starting a Bell or Hopkins thread? LOL. Wow.
Deamon
Footballguy
Listen man, this is personal. I was treated like a non-human in this thread. And you know what? The chickens have come to roost.
Even if Freeman got more carries, his 3.5 YPC doesn't inspire much confidence for a bigger fantasy day. He's Legarette Blount lite.
I wish the guy would have accepted my bet. I love taking money from egotistical people. In 2016, posters in this board made a bet with me that Donald Trump wouldn't be elected.
He was almost as smug as the guys in this thread were.
Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
Lol, so sad that all you Freeman backers have left is ripping on Booker.
Like I've been saying for months. If your best argument for Freeman is that Devontae Booker isn't very good. Then you're probably dying on the wrong hill.
PS: You'd be better off drafting Booker in the 11th than Freeman I'm the 4th, LOL.
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Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
Alright, I'm done now. There's plenty of season left. I'll see you all next week. I think you're all starting to what I've predicted all along...
Hopefully Freeman can jam another Touchdown in next week or else this is going to get ugly fast.
Hopefully Freeman can jam another Touchdown in next week or else this is going to get ugly fast.
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Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
That was supposed to say, "I don't take pleasure in others misery" hence the usage of the word "but" as an exception.
Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
Listen man, they were being MEAN. Maybe you're right but what's better than bullying a bully?
If someone won't give you respect, sometimes you have to take it.
Deamon
Footballguy
Trust me, you're not gaining any respect by doing this.
Anyways I've disliked Freeman from the get go so I don't want him to succeed either, but your posts almost make me want him to.
