RB Saquon Barkley, PHI (3 Viewers)

[Kiddnets]

Bust of the year?

Non injury related, I think he’s the clear winner.

Even this week, many fantasy analysts seemed to be touting him as a buy low given a favorable schedule down the stretch. Not so much.

In my opinion, and I'm sure it might upset some people, but Barkley's biggest problem is Barkley. He's not playing well. Its not "oh the offense sucks, oh the OL sucks" its Barkley. He's the RB version of Lamar, only without the injury excuses. He's not breaking tackles, he just looks slower, and its not like he's helping as a receiver. The OL taking a step back hasn't helped, but its still a good OL, just not the best.

Factor in that he went #1 overall in many drafts, and no later than #3 in almost any, and he's the biggest non-injury bust to me.

bad OL and play calling but you are correct - Rarely gets a GL carry - he looks slow and indecisive and ive seen way too many drops of easy yards on swing passes - huge bust

 

[Rubi]

So maybe Joe Schoen was right
A year later

 

[travdogg]

So maybe Joe Schoen was right
A year later

It was always weird to me, how much blame he got for letting Barkley go. What would have happened if they kept Barkley? They win 5 games instead of 3?

I mean, I get the argument maybe they should have gotten more than a comp pick for him, but it didn't make sense for the Giants to give a big contract to a 27-year-old RB, when they weren't going anywhere with him.

I feel like it Barkley had ended up say, in Houston or something, instead of Philly (a division rival) less would have been said about the decision to let him walk.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Bust of the year?

Non injury related, I think he’s the clear winner.

Even this week, many fantasy analysts seemed to be touting him as a buy low given a favorable schedule down the stretch. Not so much.

In my opinion, and I'm sure it might upset some people, but Barkley's biggest problem is Barkley. He's not playing well. Its not "oh the offense sucks, oh the OL sucks" its Barkley. He's the RB version of Lamar, only without the injury excuses. He's not breaking tackles, he just looks slower, and its not like he's helping as a receiver. The OL taking a step back hasn't helped, but its still a good OL, just not the best.

Factor in that he went #1 overall in many drafts, and no later than #3 in almost any, and he's the biggest non-injury bust to me.

Saquon has, at least had some weeks ago, terrible peripheral numbers like missed forced tackles and other terrible ones. It’s also partially his line. Tank Bigsby might b red better right now.

There are quite a few people in the Eagles thread that think Bigsby is running better than Barkley this year.

He’s certainly doing more north-south running and hitting the holes harder than Barkley is.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

So maybe Joe Schoen was right
A year later

It was always weird to me, how much blame he got for letting Barkley go. What would have happened if they kept Barkley? They win 5 games instead of 3?

I mean, I get the argument maybe they should have gotten more than a comp pick for him, but it didn't make sense for the Giants to give a big contract to a 27-year-old RB, when they weren't going anywhere with him.

I feel like it Barkley had ended up say, in Houston or something, instead of Philly (a division rival) less would have been said about the decision to let him walk.

His mistake was not letting Barkley go. His mistake was building a crappy team for whom it makes no sense to keep a veteran RB at a high salary.

 

[zamboni]

Could also be winning the Super Bowl and getting handsomely paid afterwards brought in a bit of complacency - it happens.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Bust of the year?

Non injury related, I think he’s the clear winner.

Even this week, many fantasy analysts seemed to be touting him as a buy low given a favorable schedule down the stretch. Not so much.

In my opinion, and I'm sure it might upset some people, but Barkley's biggest problem is Barkley. He's not playing well. Its not "oh the offense sucks, oh the OL sucks" its Barkley. He's the RB version of Lamar, only without the injury excuses. He's not breaking tackles, he just looks slower, and its not like he's helping as a receiver. The OL taking a step back hasn't helped, but its still a good OL, just not the best.

Factor in that he went #1 overall in many drafts, and no later than #3 in almost any, and he's the biggest non-injury bust to me.

Saquon has, at least had some weeks ago, terrible peripheral numbers like missed forced tackles and other terrible ones. It’s also partially his line. Tank Bigsby might b red better right now.

There are quite a few people in the Eagles thread that think Bigsby is running better than Barkley this year.

He’s certainly doing more north-south running and hitting the holes harder than Barkley is.

Probably true. But it’s also silly to think that defenses are behaving identically when Tank is in the backfield vs when Saquon is.

 

[JoeJoe88]

Bust of the year?

Hands down and it’s not even close, given how high he was drafted compared to other busts like BTJ.

It’s really frustrating watching him, too. I know the playcalling has been horrid and the offense as a whole isn’t in synch, but Saquon himself has not looked good at all to me. I see very little burst, no tackle-breaking, etc.

 

[VikingFrog]

I’m just here to point to the shirt.

Was targeting McCaffrey in auction after seeing @travdogg rankings before the season, and had Barkley on my do not draft list after so many touches.

Mccaffrey bid got a little too rich for my blood early on in auction draft, so I let him go… and drafted Barkley for MORE than mccaffrey went for trying to bid him up to a leaguemate.

lol.

Oh how the turns table.

 

[Dez]

So this is the guy we were all drafting over CMC this year huh ?

 

[BlackCrowes]

BTJ a bigger bust

 

[JoeJoe88]

BTJ a bigger bust

Again relative to where they were drafted it’s easily Saquon. I’d venture most redraft teams that drafted Barkley are either already out of the playoffs or fighting tooth and nail to get in.

 

[Uncle Leo]

BTJ a bigger bust

Again relative to where they were drafted it’s easily Saquon. I’d venture most redraft teams that drafted Barkley are either already out of the playoffs or fighting tooth and nail to get in.

This and BTJ had the injury excuse as well.

 

[Uncle Leo]

So maybe Joe Schoen was right
A year later

No.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

I’m just here to point to the shirt.

Was targeting McCaffrey in auction after seeing @travdogg rankings before the season, and had Barkley on my do not draft list after so many touches.

Mccaffrey bid got a little too rich for my blood early on in auction draft, so I let him go… and drafted Barkley for MORE than mccaffrey went for trying to bid him up to a leaguemate.

lol.

Oh how the turns table.

Price-enforcing someone on your DND list seems like a suboptimal auction strategy.

 

[BlackCrowes]

BTJ a bigger bust

Again relative to where they were drafted it’s easily Saquon. I’d venture most redraft teams that drafted Barkley are either already out of the playoffs or fighting tooth and nail to get in.

WR50!? Saquon has at least been a serviceable RB2. And most teams are either out of the playoffs or fighting to get in.

 

[VikingFrog]

I’m just here to point to the shirt.

Was targeting McCaffrey in auction after seeing @travdogg rankings before the season, and had Barkley on my do not draft list after so many touches.

Mccaffrey bid got a little too rich for my blood early on in auction draft, so I let him go… and drafted Barkley for MORE than mccaffrey went for trying to bid him up to a leaguemate.

lol.

Oh how the turns table.

Price-enforcing someone on your DND list seems like a suboptimal auction strategy.

It is and was. You are not wrong. I sometimes panic under pressure on the button during auction drafts and get a little cocky and ahead of myself. Sometimes it pans out and sometimes it doesn’t. This was a big doesn’t.

 

[Faust]

As Eagles search for answers in wake of loss to Cowboys, they should start by reexamining how they're using Saquon Barkley