RB Sean Tucker, TB (5 Viewers)

[LittlePhatty]

What makes people think it would be a 3 headed monster?

There are at least 6 or 7 internet articles that came out yesterday/today using that term. So naturally people read them and then post here like it is their own analysis.

 

[eighsse2]

he could also be telling the truth if the three-headed monster results in something like a 5-10% share of the pie for Tucker.

True, don't get caught up thinking that "three-headed monster" has to mean all similar touches.

 

[JohnnyU]

What makes people think it would be a 3 headed monster?

There are at least 6 or 7 internet articles that came out yesterday/today using that term. So naturally people read them and then post here like it is their own analysis.

Yes, I believe everything I read on the internet. Funny post btw.

 

[zamboni]

What makes people think it would be a 3 headed monster?

There are at least 6 or 7 internet articles that came out yesterday/today using that term. So naturally people read them and then post here like it is their own analysis.

Yes, I believe everything I read on the internet. Funny post btw.

He actually said 3 headed monster in a press conference, but again, have to take it with a grain of salt.

 

[JohnnyU]

What makes people think it would be a 3 headed monster?

There are at least 6 or 7 internet articles that came out yesterday/today using that term. So naturally people read them and then post here like it is their own analysis.

Yes, I believe everything I read on the internet. Funny post btw.

He actually said 3 headed monster in a press conference, but again, have to take it with a grain of salt.

…..yet people don’t. I would be more inclined to believe it will be more like it was before White got hurt, once healthy. Why should I think differently?

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

What makes people think it would be a 3 headed monster?

There are at least 6 or 7 internet articles that came out yesterday/today using that term. So naturally people read them and then post here like it is their own analysis.

Actually, "three-headed monster" was used by the reporter asking Bowles about it. Bowles, himself, answered using the phrase twice in his response, including "definitely worthy of him making it a three-headed monster" and "so that gives us three-headed monsters".


But, I agree that it doesn't mean a perfect 33-33-33 pie. Might look something like that Eagles split that was thrown out. I do think all parties are on a somewhat level competition for who rises up to the largest piece of that pie. Tucker would be my bet for who starts off with the smallest piece once everyone is healthy, but that doesn't mean he stays there.

 

[Teezee]

Straight line runner, not a lot of wiggle but decisive. Most of his runs were through massive holes going untouched. I need to see the ability to create on his own when things break down.

 

[Runkle]

For sure he looked good, but the Saints were gassed and the Buccos put up 50. That kind of script ain't happening every week.

 

[BigJim®]

Why should I think differently?

Because White has a 3.7 YPC on 51 carries (178/51), which becomes 2.6 YPC if you remove an oddity 56 yard run (131/50). That's about as pedestrian as it comes by NFL RB1 standards, and is entirely consistent with his career average (1658/452=3.7).

ETA: Interesting pewter report take here @ 2:00 that I agree with.

 

[JohnnyU]

Why should I think differently?

Because White has a 3.7 YPC on 51 carries (178/51), which becomes 2.6 YPC if you remove an oddity 56 yard run (131/50). That's about as pedestrian as it comes by NFL RB1 standards, and is entirely consistent with his career average (1658/452=3.7).

ETA: Interesting pewter report take here @ 2:00 that I agree with.

Coaches think the way they want to think. I wouldn't expect some big change, but I could be wrong.

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

Why should I think differently?

Because White has a 3.7 YPC on 51 carries (178/51), which becomes 2.6 YPC if you remove an oddity 56 yard run (131/50). That's about as pedestrian as it comes by NFL RB1 standards, and is entirely consistent with his career average (1658/452=3.7).

ETA: Interesting pewter report take here @ 2:00 that I agree with.

Thanks for the link. Good discussion coming from the (Bucs beat reporter?) that asked Bowles the question.

 

[ohio#1eaglesfan]

Straight line runner, not a lot of wiggle but decisive. Most of his runs were through massive holes going untouched. I need to see the ability to create on his own when things break down.

Probably a better running style than Bucky’s. Irving dances around a lot. Ask the Lions if they’d rather have Swift back over Montgomery.

 

[BigJim®]

Coaches think the way they want to think. I wouldn't expect some big change, but I could be wrong.

Fair enough. My sense watching the pewter report is Bowles has a rep for failing to react. The beat writer words "wanting to get Bowles on record...for Bucs fans minds to be put at ease and my own mind to be at ease" struck me as interesting. Is that fan sentiment/mindset? Would that impact team decisions? This franchise has ranked dead last in rushing the past 2 seasons. Logically, Bowles can only lose putting Tucker back on the bench. He has perfect cover to integrate Tucker more, even if Tucker comes back to earth.

 

[JohnnyU]

Coaches think the way they want to think. I wouldn't expect some big change, but I could be wrong.

Fair enough. Bowles is in an enviable/unenviable position depending on his nature. My sense watching the pewter report I linked is Bowles has a rep for failing to react. The tone of beat writer words "wanting to get Bowles on record...for Bucs fans minds to be put at ease and my own mind to be at ease" struck me as important backdrop of fan sentiment/mindset (beyond mere FF biases we read here). Keep in mind, this franchise has ranked dead last in rushing the past 2 seasons. Logically, Bowles can only lose putting Tucker back on the bench. He has perfect cover to integrate Tucker more, even if Tucker comes back to earth.

Even with Tucker's great game, when he finally did hit the field last year he looked terrible (15/23/1.5/0, albeit a small sample size). So there is that.

 

[Lansdowne]

Coaches think the way they want to think. I wouldn't expect some big change, but I could be wrong.

Fair enough. Bowles is in an enviable/unenviable position depending on his nature. My sense watching the pewter report I linked is Bowles has a rep for failing to react. The tone of beat writer words "wanting to get Bowles on record...for Bucs fans minds to be put at ease and my own mind to be at ease" struck me as important backdrop of fan sentiment/mindset (beyond mere FF biases we read here). Keep in mind, this franchise has ranked dead last in rushing the past 2 seasons. Logically, Bowles can only lose putting Tucker back on the bench. He has perfect cover to integrate Tucker more, even if Tucker comes back to earth.

Even with Tucker's great game, when he finally did hit the field last year he looked terrible (15/23/1.5/0, albeit a small sample size). So there is that.

This is what I'm talking about with people referencing Tucker's YPC last year. Different season, different team. The rookie Graham Barton fortifies the middle of that offensive line in a way they didn't have last year. There's a reason they're running better so far as a team this season than they have last season. Be open to the idea that Tucker might actually be better than the guy we saw last year.

 

[BigJim®]

Coaches think the way they want to think. I wouldn't expect some big change, but I could be wrong.

Fair enough. Bowles is in an enviable/unenviable position depending on his nature. My sense watching the pewter report I linked is Bowles has a rep for failing to react. The tone of beat writer words "wanting to get Bowles on record...for Bucs fans minds to be put at ease and my own mind to be at ease" struck me as important backdrop of fan sentiment/mindset (beyond mere FF biases we read here). Keep in mind, this franchise has ranked dead last in rushing the past 2 seasons. Logically, Bowles can only lose putting Tucker back on the bench. He has perfect cover to integrate Tucker more, even if Tucker comes back to earth.

Even with Tucker's great game, when he finally did hit the field last year he looked terrible (15/23/1.5/0, albeit a small sample size). So there is that.

Does that seem like an important data point still, for you? That’s surprising.

 

[Lansdowne]

Coaches think the way they want to think. I wouldn't expect some big change, but I could be wrong.

Fair enough. Bowles is in an enviable/unenviable position depending on his nature. My sense watching the pewter report I linked is Bowles has a rep for failing to react. The tone of beat writer words "wanting to get Bowles on record...for Bucs fans minds to be put at ease and my own mind to be at ease" struck me as important backdrop of fan sentiment/mindset (beyond mere FF biases we read here). Keep in mind, this franchise has ranked dead last in rushing the past 2 seasons. Logically, Bowles can only lose putting Tucker back on the bench. He has perfect cover to integrate Tucker more, even if Tucker comes back to earth.

Even with Tucker's great game, when he finally did hit the field last year he looked terrible (15/23/1.5/0, albeit a small sample size). So there is that.

Does that seem like an important data point still, for you? That’s surprising.

That's the problem with take lock. If you're not open to new information then you're stuck in the past. That would be like thinking Nico Collins is still the same guy who finished below 500 yards each of his first two seasons and not the one who has emerged as an upper echelon WR today. Situations change and players develop over time.

 

[JohnnyU]

Coaches think the way they want to think. I wouldn't expect some big change, but I could be wrong.

Fair enough. Bowles is in an enviable/unenviable position depending on his nature. My sense watching the pewter report I linked is Bowles has a rep for failing to react. The tone of beat writer words "wanting to get Bowles on record...for Bucs fans minds to be put at ease and my own mind to be at ease" struck me as important backdrop of fan sentiment/mindset (beyond mere FF biases we read here). Keep in mind, this franchise has ranked dead last in rushing the past 2 seasons. Logically, Bowles can only lose putting Tucker back on the bench. He has perfect cover to integrate Tucker more, even if Tucker comes back to earth.

Even with Tucker's great game, when he finally did hit the field last year he looked terrible (15/23/1.5/0, albeit a small sample size). So there is that.

Does that seem like an important data point still, for you? That’s surprising.

I did say "small sample size", so obviously it isn't a major point to me. Just pointing it out that it's not as if he got his first chance and excelled. He's definitely a hold in dynasty after having such a good game, but like the small sample size in 2023, this was one game. It was enough to get in dynasty and I did prior to Sunday's game in one league. I also picked him up in another and dropped him soon after :( So I am interested in Tucker.

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

Coaches think the way they want to think. I wouldn't expect some big change, but I could be wrong.

Fair enough. Bowles is in an enviable/unenviable position depending on his nature. My sense watching the pewter report I linked is Bowles has a rep for failing to react. The tone of beat writer words "wanting to get Bowles on record...for Bucs fans minds to be put at ease and my own mind to be at ease" struck me as important backdrop of fan sentiment/mindset (beyond mere FF biases we read here). Keep in mind, this franchise has ranked dead last in rushing the past 2 seasons. Logically, Bowles can only lose putting Tucker back on the bench. He has perfect cover to integrate Tucker more, even if Tucker comes back to earth.

Even with Tucker's great game, when he finally did hit the field last year he looked terrible (15/23/1.5/0, albeit a small sample size). So there is that.

Does that seem like an important data point still, for you? That’s surprising.

Most likely, "go run the clock out, rook"

In fairness, I probably used the same stats to tell myself I didn't need to go out and make a pre-emptive add ahead of Sunday. I feel like there's some mental gymnastics that some White and Irving shareholders are performing in an attempt to put Sunday's performance back in the bottle. I'm happy that I was able to add Tucker in a league where the waiver lottery tickets are usually pretty uninspiring. However, I have realistic expectations on the likelihood of this turning into anything that's going to change the course of my season. However, I think this backfield undeniably became murkier as of Sunday.

 

[Lansdowne]

Coaches think the way they want to think. I wouldn't expect some big change, but I could be wrong.

Fair enough. Bowles is in an enviable/unenviable position depending on his nature. My sense watching the pewter report I linked is Bowles has a rep for failing to react. The tone of beat writer words "wanting to get Bowles on record...for Bucs fans minds to be put at ease and my own mind to be at ease" struck me as important backdrop of fan sentiment/mindset (beyond mere FF biases we read here). Keep in mind, this franchise has ranked dead last in rushing the past 2 seasons. Logically, Bowles can only lose putting Tucker back on the bench. He has perfect cover to integrate Tucker more, even if Tucker comes back to earth.

Even with Tucker's great game, when he finally did hit the field last year he looked terrible (15/23/1.5/0, albeit a small sample size). So there is that.

Does that seem like an important data point still, for you? That’s surprising.

Most likely, "go run the clock out, rook"

In fairness, I probably used the same stats to tell myself I didn't need to go out and make a pre-emptive add ahead of Sunday. I feel like there's some mental gymnastics that some White and Irving shareholders are performing in an attempt to put Sunday's performance back in the bottle. I'm happy that I was able to add Tucker in a league where the waiver lottery tickets are usually pretty uninspiring. However, I have realistic expectations on the likelihood of this turning into anything that's going to change the course of my season. However, I think this backfield undeniably became murkier as of Sunday.

This is where I'm at too. I still believe Tucker is the best RB they have, but I also believe White and Irving have done nothing to lose their jobs as RB1 and RB2, the positions they earned going into this season. Anyone chasing the points with Tucker will likely regret it next week, but I think he's worth stashing on fantasy benches and waiting to see what happens. I'll be surprised if he gets enough playing time to be fantasy-startable without injury to White or Irving, and wouldn't expect it. With injury though, could see two Bucs RBs eating the same way Mostert and Achane did last year with the Dolphins.

 

[cockroach]

Coaches think the way they want to think. I wouldn't expect some big change, but I could be wrong.

Fair enough. Bowles is in an enviable/unenviable position depending on his nature. My sense watching the pewter report I linked is Bowles has a rep for failing to react. The tone of beat writer words "wanting to get Bowles on record...for Bucs fans minds to be put at ease and my own mind to be at ease" struck me as important backdrop of fan sentiment/mindset (beyond mere FF biases we read here). Keep in mind, this franchise has ranked dead last in rushing the past 2 seasons. Logically, Bowles can only lose putting Tucker back on the bench. He has perfect cover to integrate Tucker more, even if Tucker comes back to earth.

Even with Tucker's great game, when he finally did hit the field last year he looked terrible (15/23/1.5/0, albeit a small sample size). So there is that.

Finally? It was the first couple weeks then he got shelved.

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

Listening to that Pewter Report, the beat guy seemed to be very excited for Bucky, intrigued by Tucker, and patience seemed to be wearing a little thin on White. Not sure if that's anywhere close to where most Bucs fans actually are.

FWIW, Waldman definitely isn't dismissive of Tucker's prospects moving forward.

 

[JohnnyU]

Coaches think the way they want to think. I wouldn't expect some big change, but I could be wrong.

Fair enough. Bowles is in an enviable/unenviable position depending on his nature. My sense watching the pewter report I linked is Bowles has a rep for failing to react. The tone of beat writer words "wanting to get Bowles on record...for Bucs fans minds to be put at ease and my own mind to be at ease" struck me as important backdrop of fan sentiment/mindset (beyond mere FF biases we read here). Keep in mind, this franchise has ranked dead last in rushing the past 2 seasons. Logically, Bowles can only lose putting Tucker back on the bench. He has perfect cover to integrate Tucker more, even if Tucker comes back to earth.

Even with Tucker's great game, when he finally did hit the field last year he looked terrible (15/23/1.5/0, albeit a small sample size). So there is that.

Finally? It was the first couple weeks then he got shelved.

I believe I've followed up with more context on Tucker with a later post.

 

[barackdhouse]

Is Rachaad White now considered a "made" guy that wouldn't be asked to contribute on ST sitting on a career 3.7 YPC? Not saying Tucker wouldn't also be in that mix.

I do think there's something to a 3-headed monster not staying static at 33-33-33. Hot hand. Guy gets a little bit nicked and gets scaled back. Guy fumbles, goes to the back of the line. I think the main thing is that Tucker is in now in the competition on relatively level playing ground. There's reason to hope he can rise to the top of it. But yes, he's a LONG ways from being a league winner. More excited to have him in dynasty than re-draft for sure.

So, you think after one good game by Tucker and it is suddenly a 3 headed monster? Talk about recency bias. I believe once White is healthy it is business as usual. Meaning, business as it was.

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"It's definitely worthy of him making it a three-headed monster,'' coach Todd Bowles said of Tucker.

 

[JohnnyU]

Is Rachaad White now considered a "made" guy that wouldn't be asked to contribute on ST sitting on a career 3.7 YPC? Not saying Tucker wouldn't also be in that mix.

I do think there's something to a 3-headed monster not staying static at 33-33-33. Hot hand. Guy gets a little bit nicked and gets scaled back. Guy fumbles, goes to the back of the line. I think the main thing is that Tucker is in now in the competition on relatively level playing ground. There's reason to hope he can rise to the top of it. But yes, he's a LONG ways from being a league winner. More excited to have him in dynasty than re-draft for sure.

So, you think after one good game by Tucker and it is suddenly a 3 headed monster? Talk about recency bias. I believe once White is healthy it is business as usual. Meaning, business as it was.

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"It's definitely worthy of him making it a three-headed monster,'' coach Todd Bowles said of Tucker.

Yeah, I know what he said, but I’ve also heard a lot of coaches say things that don’t materialize. Let’s just see if he’s given a chance to build on his good game once White is healthy. I hope he does, because I picked him up for free just before Sunday’s game. Unlike a lot of people that are about to blow their wad on him in FAAB.

 

[Grahamburn]

What makes people think it would be a 3 headed monster?

There are at least 6 or 7 internet articles that came out yesterday/today using that term. So naturally people read them and then post here like it is their own analysis.

Yes, I believe everything I read on the internet. Funny post btw.

He actually said 3 headed monster in a press conference, but again, have to take it with a grain of salt.

…..yet people don’t. I would be more inclined to believe it will be more like it was before White got hurt, once healthy. Why should I think differently?

Because Tucker just ran for 10 yards a pop, scored twice, once on an open field reception, and basically humiliated the Saints.

You think Coen, who preaches “players not plays,” and Bowles are just going to ignore that kind of production?

Bucky was already cutting into White’s workload with each passing week. Tucker just sliced it up more.

 

[Grahamburn]

Coaches think the way they want to think. I wouldn't expect some big change, but I could be wrong.

Fair enough. Bowles is in an enviable/unenviable position depending on his nature. My sense watching the pewter report I linked is Bowles has a rep for failing to react. The tone of beat writer words "wanting to get Bowles on record...for Bucs fans minds to be put at ease and my own mind to be at ease" struck me as important backdrop of fan sentiment/mindset (beyond mere FF biases we read here). Keep in mind, this franchise has ranked dead last in rushing the past 2 seasons. Logically, Bowles can only lose putting Tucker back on the bench. He has perfect cover to integrate Tucker more, even if Tucker comes back to earth.

Even with Tucker's great game, when he finally did hit the field last year he looked terrible (15/23/1.5/0, albeit a small sample size). So there is that.

This is what I'm talking about with people referencing Tucker's YPC last year. Different season, different team. The rookie Graham Barton fortifies the middle of that offensive line in a way they didn't have last year. There's a reason they're running better so far as a team this season than they have last season. Be open to the idea that Tucker might actually be better than the guy we saw last year.

Barton didn’t play in this game.

 

[Lansdowne]

Coaches think the way they want to think. I wouldn't expect some big change, but I could be wrong.

Fair enough. Bowles is in an enviable/unenviable position depending on his nature. My sense watching the pewter report I linked is Bowles has a rep for failing to react. The tone of beat writer words "wanting to get Bowles on record...for Bucs fans minds to be put at ease and my own mind to be at ease" struck me as important backdrop of fan sentiment/mindset (beyond mere FF biases we read here). Keep in mind, this franchise has ranked dead last in rushing the past 2 seasons. Logically, Bowles can only lose putting Tucker back on the bench. He has perfect cover to integrate Tucker more, even if Tucker comes back to earth.

Even with Tucker's great game, when he finally did hit the field last year he looked terrible (15/23/1.5/0, albeit a small sample size). So there is that.

This is what I'm talking about with people referencing Tucker's YPC last year. Different season, different team. The rookie Graham Barton fortifies the middle of that offensive line in a way they didn't have last year. There's a reason they're running better so far as a team this season than they have last season. Be open to the idea that Tucker might actually be better than the guy we saw last year.

Barton didn’t play in this game.

My bad. That makes it even more impressive IMO. Though point still stands as far as the rest of the RB room. Wonder if going from Canales to Coen helped too.

 

[Grahamburn]

Coaches think the way they want to think. I wouldn't expect some big change, but I could be wrong.

Fair enough. Bowles is in an enviable/unenviable position depending on his nature. My sense watching the pewter report I linked is Bowles has a rep for failing to react. The tone of beat writer words "wanting to get Bowles on record...for Bucs fans minds to be put at ease and my own mind to be at ease" struck me as important backdrop of fan sentiment/mindset (beyond mere FF biases we read here). Keep in mind, this franchise has ranked dead last in rushing the past 2 seasons. Logically, Bowles can only lose putting Tucker back on the bench. He has perfect cover to integrate Tucker more, even if Tucker comes back to earth.

Even with Tucker's great game, when he finally did hit the field last year he looked terrible (15/23/1.5/0, albeit a small sample size). So there is that.

This is what I'm talking about with people referencing Tucker's YPC last year. Different season, different team. The rookie Graham Barton fortifies the middle of that offensive line in a way they didn't have last year. There's a reason they're running better so far as a team this season than they have last season. Be open to the idea that Tucker might actually be better than the guy we saw last year.

Barton didn’t play in this game.

My bad. That makes it even more impressive IMO. Though point still stands as far as the rest of the RB room. Wonder if going from Canales to Coen helped too.

Exponentially.

 

[Smack Tripper]

I think industry wide he's being slept on dramatically

White has been an atrocious goal line back, this is a power house offense, if Tucker just got the goal line work he'd be pretty well rosterable

If he can show some of the talent to get half the carries with the goal line carries, league winner

 

[Grahamburn]

Is Rachaad White now considered a "made" guy that wouldn't be asked to contribute on ST sitting on a career 3.7 YPC? Not saying Tucker wouldn't also be in that mix.

I do think there's something to a 3-headed monster not staying static at 33-33-33. Hot hand. Guy gets a little bit nicked and gets scaled back. Guy fumbles, goes to the back of the line. I think the main thing is that Tucker is in now in the competition on relatively level playing ground. There's reason to hope he can rise to the top of it. But yes, he's a LONG ways from being a league winner. More excited to have him in dynasty than re-draft for sure.

So, you think after one good game by Tucker and it is suddenly a 3 headed monster? Talk about recency bias. I believe once White is healthy it is business as usual. Meaning, business as it was.

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"It's definitely worthy of him making it a three-headed monster,'' coach Todd Bowles said of Tucker.

Bowles has also repeatedly said he’d “ride the hot hand” when discussing White/Irving.

White’s injury could have also been a bit of an excuse for them to get a look at Tucker in a real game. He didn’t disappoint.

 

[BobbyLayne]

What makes people think it would be a 3 headed monster?

There are at least 6 or 7 internet articles that came out yesterday/today using that term. So naturally people read them and then post here like it is their own analysis.

Yes, I believe everything I read on the internet. Funny post btw.

He actually said 3 headed monster in a press conference, but again, have to take it with a grain of salt.

…..yet people don’t. I would be more inclined to believe it will be more like it was before White got hurt, once healthy. Why should I think differently?

Because Tucker just ran for 10 yards a pop, scored twice, once on an open field reception, and basically humiliated the Saints.

You think Coen, who preaches “players not plays,” and Bowles are just going to ignore that kind of production?

Bucky was already cutting into White’s workload with each passing week. Tucker just sliced it up more.

@Grahamburn - according to the CoachSpeakIndex site, Bowles is fairly reliable with respect to what he says and what he does / how situations or injuries play out

I'm wondering about your impressions....

For example, I know Dan Campbell is just a straight shootin' Texan. After listening to him for 4 years, I know I can trust what he says.

• 2023 minicamp - Well, we need to see more from Jamo. We just do. Nobody is entitled to anything around here, you earn it through putting in work, time on task, etc.
• 2024 minicamp - the one guy who is poised to make a jump? I'd say it's Jamo. He's matured, he is more detail oriented, he and Goff are on the same page.

Seen it play out over and over again. Regardless of what the media is speculating, if he says Player X is going to be fine, I know that player will be active on Sunday. If he says Player Y is going to out for awhile, then I know that player is going to miss a game or two. Very transparent. He said recently Brad wanted to get a deal done with Alim McNeill. Boom - $97M dropped today

 

[Grahamburn]

For sure he looked good, but the Saints were gassed and the Buccos put up 50. That kind of script ain't happening every week.

Not false, but Tucker was the RB on Tampa’s second offensive series. He ripped off an 11 yard run and had a 15 yard catch the two times he touched it.

 

[Grahamburn]

What makes people think it would be a 3 headed monster?

There are at least 6 or 7 internet articles that came out yesterday/today using that term. So naturally people read them and then post here like it is their own analysis.

Yes, I believe everything I read on the internet. Funny post btw.

He actually said 3 headed monster in a press conference, but again, have to take it with a grain of salt.

…..yet people don’t. I would be more inclined to believe it will be more like it was before White got hurt, once healthy. Why should I think differently?

Because Tucker just ran for 10 yards a pop, scored twice, once on an open field reception, and basically humiliated the Saints.

You think Coen, who preaches “players not plays,” and Bowles are just going to ignore that kind of production?

Bucky was already cutting into White’s workload with each passing week. Tucker just sliced it up more.

@Grahamburn - according to the CoachSpeakIndex site, Bowles is fairly reliable with respect to what he says and what he does / how situations or injuries play out

I'm wondering about your impressions....

For example, I know Dan Campbell is just a straight shootin' Texan. After listening to him for 4 years, I know I can trust what he says.

• 2023 minicamp - Well, we need to see more from Jamo. We just do. Nobody is entitled to anything around here, you earn it through putting in work, time on task, etc.
• 2024 minicamp - the one guy who is poised to make a jump? I'd say it's Jamo. He's matured, he is more detail oriented, he and Goff are on the same page.

Seen it play out over and over again. Regardless of what the media is speculating, if he says Player X is going to be fine, I know that player will be active on Sunday. If he says Player Y is going to out for awhile, then I know that player is going to miss a game or two. Very transparent. He said recently Brad wanted to get a deal done with Alim McNeill. Boom - $97M dropped today

I’d say he’s loyal to a fault. So, it could be a situation where White continues to get every opportunity to fail.

That being said, the Bucs have been last in rushing two years in a row. We know Bowles wants his offense to be able to run the ball, and right now, they can. Very little of that success is Rachaad White.

He has said it’s a 3-headed monster. He has said he’ll ride the hot hand.

I think going forward what you might see is a lot more route running from White as a pseudo WR3, and traditional RB sets that feature Bucky and Tucker.

 

[rockaction]

This guy can play. I watched the NO/TB game as my main game (with the other three screens serving as background) and he just blew everybody else away with just how he moved. He fast. He big. He strong.

He run.

 

[TampaMike19]

Went unclaimed in one of my leagues- had to scoop him regardless. The trend line is too strong to ignore

 

[ohio#1eaglesfan]

Could be the best back on the roster. He seems to have great hands and is more of a no nonsense runner than the other two. Irving has had some good runs but he tends to run more east, west from what I’ve seen.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

1. Many NFL teams DO NOT subscribe to the 1-guy taking the JOB and gobbling up 400 touches the rest of the season, NFL teams don't think like FF managers
Very few teams IMO do the workhorse 1-back thing. Shanahan is known to overload his starting Running Backs, if he has one he likes he just uses them again and again
How many other teams really do that?

Head Coaches don't gather in a room and talk about which RB they want to get 15-20 touches to that weekend, they have no idea how the game will play out.
In-game script has a lot to do with the number of touches and which RBs get on the field.

2. Rachaad White is coming off 336 touches, 1,530 total yds and 9 TDs including 64 catches and 115 his 1st 2 seasons...
Do you really think Sean Tucker is going to vault right past him? As a Bucs fan, gimme a break

-But very excited about Tucker as the RB3 on a team I love, still think Irving and White will get first touches and its nice to have Tucker
Would like to see White evolve into more of a WR3 and just had a handful of carries to keep the Defenses honest, turn him into more of a dual 3rd down RB, sometimes gets entire drives
Irving and Tucker need to be rotated a lot and you know Tucker is not going to have the same stats last night maybe the rest of the season, it's 1 game.
And keep this position fluid. Not good for FF managers but fresh legs, all of them can hurt a defense in different ways, mostly good news for the Bucs

3. Tucker played just 3 seasons at Syracuse, redshirt Freshman and redshirt Sophomore and he was gone to the NFL. His numbers are pretty strong for Syracuse, it's possible only playing 3 years in college and 1 of them he was red-shirted, it's possible he had not developed fully as a RB just yet meaning he might be a lot better than a year ago coming out of college and I think he was undrafted. On one hand I want to minimize the enthusiasm as I doubt we see anything close to last week any time soon, at the same time there are reasons to be optimistic about him.

-White hasn't been lighting it up this year BUT his last 2 games total 20 carries for 120+ rush yds or over 6 yds a clip, I really doubt the Bucs are thinking about benching White
Take a deep breath here everyone

There's no stopping this place


-It's like Wonka in the original when he politely tells the kids to stop knowing they won't stop
Put this in your pipe this morning and puff on it...Tucker made it thru waivers in a couple of my Tampa Bay leagues, loaded with locals and they weren't exactly running to the podium
Not to mention the Ravens roll into town this week, Baker Mayfield will be the Bucs #1 priority coming out of that football game in one piece, they have a long season ahead

I like this kid a lot but I don't see more than 5-7 touches max this week vs Baltimore, in fact people that rush to grab him might just release him after the Ravens so don't feel bad if you were outbid on the waiver wire, doubt you will have to pay much at all in a week or two.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Could be the best back on the roster. He seems to have great hands and is more of a no nonsense runner than the other two. Irving has had some good runs but he tends to run more east, west from what I’ve seen.

You've never met a back up Running Back you didn't like
Everyone has a type

 

[Grahamburn]

I don’t know that White is back this week?

 

[BladeRunner]

This is a 3-headed monster. Good luck predicting who has the value every week. Avoid, if possible.

Anyone remember this idiot?

I picked up Tucker on waivers for free since I had an extra spot on my roster and literally no one in my league snatched him up during waiver processing.

 

[BladeRunner]

What makes people think it would be a 3 headed monster?

There are at least 6 or 7 internet articles that came out yesterday/today using that term. So naturally people read them and then post here like it is their own analysis.

Me and my team came up with that term before anyone else.

 

[BobbyLayne]

What makes people think it would be a 3 headed monster?

There are at least 6 or 7 internet articles that came out yesterday/today using that term. So naturally people read them and then post here like it is their own analysis.

Me and my team came up with that term before anyone else.

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[Ministry of Pain]

I saw other posts that echo Tucker going right thru waivers, in leagues where you start 5-6 RB/WR in some combo and a QB/TE/PK/Def and let's say your bench is limited to 6 or 7...
You gotta make a tough cut and I had to do some thinking about where the final spot on my roster would be

QB-CJS and I don't carry a back up right now, lot of QBs on the WW in this league
RB-Jacobs, Mason, Pollard has been my main stable so far, Tracy from the Giants and Ray Davis from Buffalo are my bench right now...I drafted to be strong at WR, we start 2+Flex 2 or 4 total
WR-Collins -IR (takes a roster spot), Tyreek Hill(useless of late), Davante Adams(are the NYJ an upgrade?), Rice -IR and already cut him(So Sad how stacked I was), Brian Thomas, JuJu(got him before he had the blow up last week), Demario Douglas(Has a nice target share and a new Rookie QB) and finally WanDale Robinson...he needs a lot of targets and catches to accumulate his points, he's small and does not stretch the field plus Malik Nabers has been absent while he's done most of his damage, he's the type that needs 10+ targets to get 5 catches and 50 yds, limited ceiling is how I would describe him, last guy on my bench but with all the injuries I've had to use him a few times, mostly a band aid for me right now
TE- Tucker and Kmet and not cutting either one of them right now
Kicker and Def - I play match ups a lot but I have the Detroit Kicker and the Bills defense this week at home vs the Titans

Hill and Adams I kind of have to start this weekend, Thomas is a solid WR3/Flex most weeks, last week was a DUD
Then I have JuJu and Douglas I can wheel out in a 2nd Flex spot if I don't go 3-RBs which is a good problem to have and it means I am doing a good job even with catastrophic injuries, I'm still overturning the bottom of my roster thru waivers until I fill my bench to the point I simply don't have a real spot for him

-I cut Sermon, Tolbert, Tucker and even had to part ways with Javonte Williams as I saw Denver is getting a new RB off IR and I would bet he is going to be dropped into the mix.
Williams is not special and I have cut/released and picked him up off waivers a few times already, doesn't seem like anyone else thinks much of him.

Do you cut Wan'Dale Robinson to have Tucker on your roster? In Redraft Leagues with shorter benches I think he is right on the border and wanted to show thru a more real world scenario of what GMs are thinking as they decide if they want to make a move on waivers. We have wavers early on Tue Nights in some of my leagues, some of you will have a shot at Tucker tonight

 

[niagararapids]

Sean Tucker 2024 pre-season stats:

21 carries, 120 yards, 5.71 average, 0 TD, long 26

4 of 4 receptions, 36 yards, 9.0 average, 0 TD, long 27, yards after catch 48

It is pretty clear he showed his chops during this pre-season and also that the coach gave the first RB carry opportunities to the person who put up about 1,500 yards last year in White.

Both can be true at the same time and that does not mean that Tucker broke out of nowhere this weekend. He was pretty established at Syracuse and had the heart condition and went undrafted due to that. But he also showed this year that he was ready to roll if called up and he did just that.

What that means for the future is unclear. But as someone who drafted him a year ago despite his heart and his going undrafted. I held for this long to see if there were going to be any returns of the small investment. He is definitely a hold now and has the potential to be a bell cow in this league some time in the future. That is the best expectations at this point and if it does not completely happen this year it may happen next year if White is not signed to a long term contract.

 

[zamboni]

I think many are getting ahead of their skis on Tucker. No question he has talent and can run/catch the ball, and if he were part of a backfield that had no viable other options, it's wheels up. But as much as we want to push the others aside, I'm sure Bowles has other ideas.

Great stash, but temper your expectations.

 

[Wrigley]

I’ve picked him up everywhere, as an end of the bench stash

 

[eighsse2]

Don't want to trade this guy, but I wonder what his value might be right now in a RB-obsessed dynasty league ... He's still a long shot to ever be a star[ter]. But that's a far, far more realistic outcome now than it was a week ago.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Baltimore Ravens 4-2, talked about as one of the best teams in the NFL, game script doesn't look good for Bucs' running game
Atlanta Falcons 4-2, rematch for the Bucs at home, gave up 500 yds passing last time, likely coming off a loss to the Ravens
at Kansas City 5-0, Good luck vs Spags
San Francisco 3-3, Super Bowl twice last few years

These are the next 4 games for Tampa Bay


-On the flip side, maybe the Bucs could use a spark running the football so they CAN compete these next 4 weeks

 

[zamboni]

Don't want to trade this guy, but I wonder what his value might be right now in a RB-obsessed dynasty league ... He's still a long shot to ever be a star[ter]. But that's a far, far more realistic outcome now than it was a week ago.

If you want to deal him, I'd do it now while he's the flavor of the week and before his role goes down or gets hurt a la Wicks.