RB Tank Bigsby, PHI (1 Viewer)

[menobrown]

If Tank Bigsby--in his role today as a 3rd-year RB for JAX--were somehow dropped into this year's rookie draft in your dynasty league... where would he go?

He actually was dropped in 20 FFPC standard league drafts and his ADP was 3.6 with a range of 2.4 to 4.11.

This would have slotted in as rookie RB12.

Reminder that FFPC is very short rosters (18 skill position players). Fwiw.

So players like Bigsby and the like are end-of-bench players in this format.

Yes that's good to clarify, thanks, but on that same note the bolded is close to an apt description of drafting rookie RB12 or player 3.6 so it's all relative.

OTOH, since more than 95% of the Bigsby owners protected him when they cut down to 14 skill position players, it seems like he is valued higher than "end-of-bench" by most owners.

Very solid point.

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

Would you trade an early 3rd for him?

In my league, definitely. But our league is probably on the extreme compared to other leagues when measuring the ratio of general RB value to third round pick value. A third is almost nothing here. Several thirds go unused most years.

Do you think he has a chance to be a meaningful fantasy contributor? He'd be my 3rd RB...backup/bye week replacement/in case of emergency. Or does Tuten make him obsolete?

 

[eighsse2]

Would you trade an early 3rd for him?

In my league, definitely. But our league is probably on the extreme compared to other leagues when measuring the ratio of general RB value to third round pick value. A third is almost nothing here. Several thirds go unused most years.

Do you think he has a chance to be a meaningful fantasy contributor? He'd be my 3rd RB...backup/bye week replacement/in case of emergency. Or does Tuten make him obsolete?

Certainly a chance. Last year he was on the brink of taking over the starting role. I still think Etienne is the nominal starter, but Bigsby did enough to really make them think about going 50-50 or even more toward Bigsby. Tuten is a risk, but he's a far, far cry from a Jeanty or Hampton. Nobody who hasn't played a down in the NFL is a sure thing. Some are close to a sure thing. But Tuten is not. Note that this is not me saying I don't like Tuten or that he won't do well. Just that even the absolutely elite prospects are never a lock, and he's far from that.

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

TY for your help @eighsse2 but I decided to....wait for it....

Punt

and traded for some draft picks for next year. Barring injury, I think I'm good @ RB with Achane and Harvey but I do need to get some depth. I just decided to ignore what might be a RBBC and figured that I might be better served with extra picks down the road than buying a what would (likely) be a sparsely used Bigsby.

 

[eighsse2]

TY for your help @eighsse2 but I decided to....wait for it....

Punt

and traded for some draft picks for next year. Barring injury, I think I'm good @ RB with Achane and Harvey but I do need to get some depth. I just decided to ignore what might be a RBBC and figured that I might be better served with extra picks down the road than buying a what would (likely) be a sparsely used Bigsby.

Well, I tried to ... wait for it ...

Block it

But yeah, depending what picks you got and if they carry measurable value in your league, I totally could go for that.

 

[massraider]

I think the biggest thing everyone is over looking is that Tuten was drafted by this coach and GM, the other two weren't.

It's a very underrated part of fantasy projections. new coaches come in, and it's easy for fantasy owners to assume all players are on level footing. History says the new regime wants THEIR GUYS.

 

[Faust]

@32BeatWriters
"If there was one running back who stood out throughout the practice, it was Tank Bigsby. Bigsby is normally a player who shines when the pads come on due to his physical nature, but he certainly looked the part in Friday's helmets and shorts practice, with the Jaguars' coaching staff frequently singing his praises."

For more on Tank Bigsby, check out his player page: t.ly/DW8K-

https://x.com/32beatwriters/status/1948822951471575334?s=61

 

[JohnnyU]

Three yards and a cloud of dust…..oh wait….

 

[kface]

He went 4 rounds earlier than Etienne in my expert draft remarkably. Etienne lasted to the 10th

 

[msudaisy26]

He went 4 rounds earlier than Etienne in my expert draft remarkably. Etienne lasted to the 10th

Someone took Tank in the 6th?

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

I’m grabbing him every chance I get round 14

 

[JohnnyU]

He went 4 rounds earlier than Etienne in my expert draft remarkably. Etienne lasted to the 10th

Someone took Tank in the 6th?

People shouldn’t drink too much during drafts. At least wait until the 11th round before getting faced.

 

[efactor]

Three yards and a cloud of dust…..oh wait….

4.6 YPC in 2024

168 carries so not a terribly small sample size. But you just keep drafting Tuten

But yeah, 6th round is crazy.

 

[JohnnyU]

Three yards and a cloud of dust…..oh wait….

4.6 YPC in 2024

168 carries so not a terribly small sample size. But you just keep drafting Tuten

But yeah, 6th round is crazy.

I did say oh wait. I take it that you didn’t pick up on that

 

[kface]

He went 4 rounds earlier than Etienne in my expert draft remarkably. Etienne lasted to the 10th

Someone took Tank in the 6th?

People shouldn’t drink too much during drafts. At least wait until the 11th round before getting faced.

It's not that, and perhaps I should have provided more context. The intent of my post was not the round but how much farther ahead of Etienne he went.

Our league is a mixed keeper league so by the 6th round there are very few people left. You are allowed to keep as many players as you want in our league 2 rounds earlier than you drafted them the previous year. Picks around him were Jameson Williams, Baker Mayfield, Tony Pollard...

 

[zamboni]

The big issue with Tank is his lack of involvement in the passing game. Not sure if he is just not good in that aspect of the game or just hasn’t been used that way since the Jags drafted him. If Coen can get him involved as a pass catcher even just a bit, could be some real upside here if he takes on the RB1 role.

 

[Faust]

@32BeatWriters
“Tank Bigsby once again looked like the focal point at running back, though Travis Etienne got extended run in a two-minute drill. Etienne was active as a pass-catcher out of the backfield, while Bhayshul Tuten looked like the clear No. 3 running back. Again, it is early, but that is what the practice Sunday showed.”

https://x.com/32beatwriters/status/1949501922903220489?s=61

 

[msudaisy26]

@32BeatWriters
“Tank Bigsby once again looked like the focal point at running back, though Travis Etienne got extended run in a two-minute drill. Etienne was active as a pass-catcher out of the backfield, while Bhayshul Tuten looked like the clear No. 3 running back. Again, it is early, but that is what the practice Sunday showed.”

https://x.com/32beatwriters/status/1949501922903220489?s=61

The secret is out his ADP was any where from 130 to 145 depending on the site and he is consistently going in the 9th round now with Etienne.

 

[Dez]

@32BeatWriters
“Tank Bigsby once again looked like the focal point at running back, though Travis Etienne got extended run in a two-minute drill. Etienne was active as a pass-catcher out of the backfield, while Bhayshul Tuten looked like the clear No. 3 running back. Again, it is early, but that is what the practice Sunday showed.”

https://x.com/32beatwriters/status/1949501922903220489?s=61

The secret is out his ADP was any where from 130 to 145 depending on the site and he is consistently going in the 9th round now with Etienne.

Not on Underdog
As of today

ETN ADP pick 95
Bigsby ADP pick 160

 

[msudaisy26]

@32BeatWriters
“Tank Bigsby once again looked like the focal point at running back, though Travis Etienne got extended run in a two-minute drill. Etienne was active as a pass-catcher out of the backfield, while Bhayshul Tuten looked like the clear No. 3 running back. Again, it is early, but that is what the practice Sunday showed.”

https://x.com/32beatwriters/status/1949501922903220489?s=61

The secret is out his ADP was any where from 130 to 145 depending on the site and he is consistently going in the 9th round now with Etienne.

Not on Underdog
As of today

ETN ADP pick 95
Bigsby ADP pick 160

I was a little off on underdog, but it will take a minute for his ADP to adjust because of how many drafts they have. Tank just went pick 9.11 in my best ball mania draft.

 

[Dez]

@32BeatWriters
“Tank Bigsby once again looked like the focal point at running back, though Travis Etienne got extended run in a two-minute drill. Etienne was active as a pass-catcher out of the backfield, while Bhayshul Tuten looked like the clear No. 3 running back. Again, it is early, but that is what the practice Sunday showed.”

https://x.com/32beatwriters/status/1949501922903220489?s=61

The secret is out his ADP was any where from 130 to 145 depending on the site and he is consistently going in the 9th round now with Etienne.

Not on Underdog
As of today

ETN ADP pick 95
Bigsby ADP pick 160

I was a little off on underdog, but it will take a minute for his ADP to adjust because of how many drafts they have. Tank just went pick 9.11 in my best ball mania draft.

Was it because that was your pick ?

He went 146 the 13th round in mine today not by me I got him at 163 a few days ago I guess I beat the rush.

 

[efactor]

@32BeatWriters
“Tank Bigsby once again looked like the focal point at running back, though Travis Etienne got extended run in a two-minute drill. Etienne was active as a pass-catcher out of the backfield, while Bhayshul Tuten looked like the clear No. 3 running back. Again, it is early, but that is what the practice Sunday showed.”

https://x.com/32beatwriters/status/1949501922903220489?s=61

The secret is out his ADP was any where from 130 to 145 depending on the site and he is consistently going in the 9th round now with Etienne.

Not on Underdog
As of today

ETN ADP pick 95
Bigsby ADP pick 160

I was a little off on underdog, but it will take a minute for his ADP to adjust because of how many drafts they have. Tank just went pick 9.11 in my best ball mania draft.

Was it because that was your pick ?

He went 146 the 13th round in mine today not by me I got him at 163 a few days ago I guess I beat the rush.

Same. Literally just went at pick 149 in an FFPC startup. 1 QB.

Was hoping he would slide to me at pick 153 but was not to be.

 

[msudaisy26]

@32BeatWriters
“Tank Bigsby once again looked like the focal point at running back, though Travis Etienne got extended run in a two-minute drill. Etienne was active as a pass-catcher out of the backfield, while Bhayshul Tuten looked like the clear No. 3 running back. Again, it is early, but that is what the practice Sunday showed.”

https://x.com/32beatwriters/status/1949501922903220489?s=61

The secret is out his ADP was any where from 130 to 145 depending on the site and he is consistently going in the 9th round now with Etienne.

Not on Underdog
As of today

ETN ADP pick 95
Bigsby ADP pick 160

I was a little off on underdog, but it will take a minute for his ADP to adjust because of how many drafts they have. Tank just went pick 9.11 in my best ball mania draft.

Was it because that was your pick ?

He went 146 the 13th round in mine today not by me I got him at 163 a few days ago I guess I beat the rush.

Not by me. All I am saying is the word is out and his ADP is going to rise, so if you want him adjust accordingly.

 

[msudaisy26]

@32BeatWriters
“Tank Bigsby once again looked like the focal point at running back, though Travis Etienne got extended run in a two-minute drill. Etienne was active as a pass-catcher out of the backfield, while Bhayshul Tuten looked like the clear No. 3 running back. Again, it is early, but that is what the practice Sunday showed.”

https://x.com/32beatwriters/status/1949501922903220489?s=61

The secret is out his ADP was any where from 130 to 145 depending on the site and he is consistently going in the 9th round now with Etienne.

Not on Underdog
As of today

ETN ADP pick 95
Bigsby ADP pick 160

I was a little off on underdog, but it will take a minute for his ADP to adjust because of how many drafts they have. Tank just went pick 9.11 in my best ball mania draft.

Was it because that was your pick ?

He went 146 the 13th round in mine today not by me I got him at 163 a few days ago I guess I beat the rush.

Same. Literally just went at pick 149 in an FFPC startup. 1 QB.

Was hoping he would slide to me at pick 153 but was not to be.

I think dynasty wise he is cheaper. I am thinking redraft and best ball only.

 

[efactor]

@32BeatWriters
“Tank Bigsby once again looked like the focal point at running back, though Travis Etienne got extended run in a two-minute drill. Etienne was active as a pass-catcher out of the backfield, while Bhayshul Tuten looked like the clear No. 3 running back. Again, it is early, but that is what the practice Sunday showed.”

https://x.com/32beatwriters/status/1949501922903220489?s=61

The secret is out his ADP was any where from 130 to 145 depending on the site and he is consistently going in the 9th round now with Etienne.

Not on Underdog
As of today

ETN ADP pick 95
Bigsby ADP pick 160

I was a little off on underdog, but it will take a minute for his ADP to adjust because of how many drafts they have. Tank just went pick 9.11 in my best ball mania draft.

Was it because that was your pick ?

He went 146 the 13th round in mine today not by me I got him at 163 a few days ago I guess I beat the rush.

Same. Literally just went at pick 149 in an FFPC startup. 1 QB.

Was hoping he would slide to me at pick 153 but was not to be.

I think dynasty wise he is cheaper. I am thinking redraft and best ball only.

Doh!

I need to get our of dynasty mode. It is redraft season

 

[FarFromHome]

Just has that feel of a situation where we continue to hear how awesome he is leading up to the season and then we watch him get single digit touches each game. Imo

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

"I was surprised by the “Tank Bigbsy is the Jaguars’ RB1” storylines earlier in the week, but perhaps I shouldn’t have been. Bigsby saw the bulk of carries with the first-team unit today and reportedly has been for much of camp. That said, Travis Etienne is almost always on the field on 3rd downs and getting designed touches in the passing game."

 

[msudaisy26]

Just has that feel of a situation where we continue to hear how awesome he is leading up to the season and then we watch him get single digit touches each game. Imo

He had 10 games last season with 10 or more touches.

 

[barackdhouse]

Yeah well he won the early down job last year so why should it be surprising he comes into camp as the #1.

Had 168 carries and was.. checks notes... 1st on the team in carries.

Had some pretty big games and finished the season as the undisputed early down back getting 18,11,12,11,14 carries the last 5 weeks with 3 TDs (and 6 targets FWIW).

 

[zamboni]

Just has that feel of a situation where we continue to hear how awesome he is leading up to the season and then we watch him get single digit touches each game. Imo

He had 10 games last season with 10 or more touches.

This is true, although that was under Pederson. With Coen in the fold, seems like all bets are off and who knows how the backfield will evolve.

 

[msudaisy26]

Just has that feel of a situation where we continue to hear how awesome he is leading up to the season and then we watch him get single digit touches each game. Imo

He had 10 games last season with 10 or more touches.

This is true, although that was under Pederson. With Coen in the fold, seems like all bets are off and who knows how the backfield will evolve.

True, but all we have to go off of under this coaching staff is this training camp. That is Tank.

 

[zamboni]

Just has that feel of a situation where we continue to hear how awesome he is leading up to the season and then we watch him get single digit touches each game. Imo

He had 10 games last season with 10 or more touches.

This is true, although that was under Pederson. With Coen in the fold, seems like all bets are off and who knows how the backfield will evolve.

True, but all we have to go off of under this coaching staff is this training camp. That is Tank.

Agreed. Although Etienne seems to be getting some positive comments as well. May be a maddening situation unless one of them takes over, and I wouldn’t rule out the rookie yet either. We just have to draft accordingly..

 

[Blick]

Just has that feel of a situation where we continue to hear how awesome he is leading up to the season and then we watch him get single digit touches each game. Imo

He had 10 games last season with 10 or more touches.

This is true, although that was under Pederson. With Coen in the fold, seems like all bets are off and who knows how the backfield will evolve.

True, but all we have to go off of under this coaching staff is this training camp. That is Tank.

Agreed. Although Etienne seems to be getting some positive comments as well. May be a maddening situation unless one of them takes over, and I wouldn’t rule out the rookie yet either. We just have to draft accordingly..

The "draft accordingly" thing is simple for me. Current PPR ADP (redraft): Etienne - 95, Tuten - 133, Bigsby - 139.

Its Bigsby all day.

 

[msudaisy26]

Just has that feel of a situation where we continue to hear how awesome he is leading up to the season and then we watch him get single digit touches each game. Imo

He had 10 games last season with 10 or more touches.

This is true, although that was under Pederson. With Coen in the fold, seems like all bets are off and who knows how the backfield will evolve.

True, but all we have to go off of under this coaching staff is this training camp. That is Tank.

Agreed. Although Etienne seems to be getting some positive comments as well. May be a maddening situation unless one of them takes over, and I wouldn’t rule out the rookie yet either. We just have to draft accordingly..

The "draft accordingly" thing is simple for me. Current PPR ADP (redraft): Etienne - 95, Tuten - 133, Bigsby - 139.

Its Bigsby all day.

If Bigsby is your guy better get him quick. He is flying up draft boards. Five days ago he had an ADP of 160 on underdog. Today it is 148.

 

[Blick]

Just has that feel of a situation where we continue to hear how awesome he is leading up to the season and then we watch him get single digit touches each game. Imo

He had 10 games last season with 10 or more touches.

This is true, although that was under Pederson. With Coen in the fold, seems like all bets are off and who knows how the backfield will evolve.

True, but all we have to go off of under this coaching staff is this training camp. That is Tank.

Agreed. Although Etienne seems to be getting some positive comments as well. May be a maddening situation unless one of them takes over, and I wouldn’t rule out the rookie yet either. We just have to draft accordingly..

The "draft accordingly" thing is simple for me. Current PPR ADP (redraft): Etienne - 95, Tuten - 133, Bigsby - 139.

Its Bigsby all day.

If Bigsby is your guy better get him quick. He is flying up draft boards. Five days ago he had an ADP of 160 on underdog. Today it is 148.

I wouldn't necessarily call him my guy. I just think he's the obvious value. I doubt anyone, including the Jag's coaching staff, knows exactly how this will play out. If he get's steamed up too much, then the others become more attractive.

 

[Kiddnets]

still looking like the starter - think it will be Tank/Etienne for this year anyway - Tank a very underrated #3 RB - especially in non-ppr leagues - that could be had much later

 

[Terpman22]

still looking like the starter - think it will be Tank/Etienne for this year anyway - Tank a very underrated #3 RB - especially in non-ppr leagues - that could be had much later

I'm not sure about underrated, he seems to be where he should. This running game to project this year seems very dirty work, I'm just probably going to stay away, but I wonder what the ceiling here is

 

[kface]

still looking like the starter - think it will be Tank/Etienne for this year anyway - Tank a very underrated #3 RB - especially in non-ppr leagues - that could be had much later

I'm not sure about underrated, he seems to be where he should. This running game to project this year seems very dirty work, I'm just probably going to stay away, but I wonder what the ceiling here is

Not high with a bunch of risk. Etienne is a proven starter in the nfl so he's not going quietly into the night

 

[jm192]

I think he'll take enough work to be flexible. He'll probably see a lot of the goal line work for an offense that should be much improved. I'd take him in the mid 30's of RB's. I'm still higher on ETN overall.

 

[menobrown]

Interesting premise and it makes a lot of sense: https://x.com/ryanohalloran/status/1957432560092389775

 

[Deamon]

What the hell is going on here?

 

[Ilov80s]

What the hell is going on here?

ETN is healthy and is the best RB on the team by a significant margin?

 

[Deamon]

What the hell is going on here?

ETN is healthy and is the best RB on the team by a significant margin?

 

[Ilov80s]

What the hell is going on here?

ETN is healthy and is the best RB on the team by a significant margin?

What else is there? He has 100 yards in the first half and is dominating the touches. He has two 1400 yard seasons in his career, few backs ever get one.

 

[Deamon]

What the hell is going on here?

ETN is healthy and is the best RB on the team by a significant margin?

What else is there? He has 100 yards in the first half and is dominating the touches. He has two 1400 yard seasons in his career, few backs ever get one.

Bigsby was consistently ranked very close to or ahead of him by most sites, including this one. 0 Carries is strange.

 

[Ilov80s]

What the hell is going on here?

ETN is healthy and is the best RB on the team by a significant margin?

What else is there? He has 100 yards in the first half and is dominating the touches. He has two 1400 yard seasons in his career, few backs ever get one.

Bigsby was consistently ranked very close to or ahead of him by most sites, including this one. 0 Carries is strange.

True but everyone was guessing and just lumping all 3 backs pretty close to each other. I believe in the preseason ETN got most of the work when Lawrencce was on the field. I know for some reason he's just not a very well liked player in the online/fantasy world but if you look at the big picture, ETN is way better than Tank. 1st round pick, all time ACC rushing leader, 102 college receptions, 1st round pick, two 1400 yard seasons. His resume is pretty ridiculous.

 

[Deamon]

What the hell is going on here?

ETN is healthy and is the best RB on the team by a significant margin?

What else is there? He has 100 yards in the first half and is dominating the touches. He has two 1400 yard seasons in his career, few backs ever get one.

Bigsby was consistently ranked very close to or ahead of him by most sites, including this one. 0 Carries is strange.

True but everyone was guessing and just lumping all 3 backs pretty close to each other. I believe in the preseason ETN got most of the work when Lawrencce was on the field. I know for some reason he's just not a very well liked player in the online/fantasy world but if you look at the big picture, ETN is way better than Tank. 1st round pick, all time ACC rushing leader, 102 college receptions, 1st round pick, two 1400 yard seasons. His resume is pretty ridiculous.

Not arguing against that. But rarely does an entire fantasy community miss that hard. Maybe it's just game script...

Aren't you shocked as well that the Jags have had SIX ball carriers today and Bigsby doesn't have a single touch?

 

[Ilov80s]

What the hell is going on here?

ETN is healthy and is the best RB on the team by a significant margin?

What else is there? He has 100 yards in the first half and is dominating the touches. He has two 1400 yard seasons in his career, few backs ever get one.

Bigsby was consistently ranked very close to or ahead of him by most sites, including this one. 0 Carries is strange.

True but everyone was guessing and just lumping all 3 backs pretty close to each other. I believe in the preseason ETN got most of the work when Lawrencce was on the field. I know for some reason he's just not a very well liked player in the online/fantasy world but if you look at the big picture, ETN is way better than Tank. 1st round pick, all time ACC rushing leader, 102 college receptions, 1st round pick, two 1400 yard seasons. His resume is pretty ridiculous.

Not arguing against that. But rarely does an entire fantasy community miss that hard. Maybe it's just game script...

Aren't you shocked as well that the Jags have had SIX ball carriers today and Bigsby doesn't have a single touch?

Yeah that is true that Laquint Allen even got a touch. I figure the others were Lawrence and 2 wide receiver design plays- those aren't ones Bigsby would ever be involved in. But Laquint is interesting. I wonder if Bigsby did something to piss off the coach?

 

[Deamon]

What the hell is going on here?

ETN is healthy and is the best RB on the team by a significant margin?

What else is there? He has 100 yards in the first half and is dominating the touches. He has two 1400 yard seasons in his career, few backs ever get one.

Bigsby was consistently ranked very close to or ahead of him by most sites, including this one. 0 Carries is strange.

True but everyone was guessing and just lumping all 3 backs pretty close to each other. I believe in the preseason ETN got most of the work when Lawrencce was on the field. I know for some reason he's just not a very well liked player in the online/fantasy world but if you look at the big picture, ETN is way better than Tank. 1st round pick, all time ACC rushing leader, 102 college receptions, 1st round pick, two 1400 yard seasons. His resume is pretty ridiculous.

Not arguing against that. But rarely does an entire fantasy community miss that hard. Maybe it's just game script...

Aren't you shocked as well that the Jags have had SIX ball carriers today and Bigsby doesn't have a single touch?

Yeah that is true that Laquint Allen even got a touch. I figure the others were Lawrence and 2 wide receiver design plays- those aren't ones Bigsby would ever be involved in. But Laquint is interesting. I wonder if Bigsby did something to piss off the coach?

Not sure. Played 3 total snaps.

 

[Deamon]

Tank sighting.