irish eyes
Footballguy
Yes folks, it is now safe to cut him, he sucks. Should have been cut weeks ago, but now it's a no brainer. 1 fluky week fooled us all, shame on me.
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RB Tevin Coleman, SF (1 Viewer)
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oddsbodkins
Footballguy
I might just cut him now and try and add someone else for first round next week.
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
This week it's Mostert. Next week will be Breida. The week after back to Coleman. Who knows.
The Frankman
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irish eyes
Footballguy
Don't do it. He is terrible & that is why he was always behind a below average back in Freeman. He is kalen ballage on a good team.
oddsbodkins
Footballguy
Debating dropping him for a backup TE. He's, thankfully, my RB4.
Mark Football
Footballguy
irish eyes
Footballguy
Mostert is much better. He actually runs forward and tries to gain yards. Coleman gets the handoff walks up to the line looks around & falls over. He isn't hurt, he just sucks like he did in Atlanta.
Mark Football
Footballguy
Do you think the 49ers are just figuring this out? Don't they watch these guys in practice, and games?
Who is dropping?
I'm in a 12 team PPR league with 8 max spots for RBs where I can start 2 in the flex. Not even sure he is startable in a 2nd flex spot. Breida back and Mostert on the rise.
I have a bye this week but now I'm looking at weeks 15 (vs ATL) and weeks 16 (vs LAR). I could see Coleman being startable in week 15 possibly but not against the Rams run D.
Thinking of dropping for P. Laird. The Miami offense is cooking and their week 15 and 16 schedule looks great -- @NYG, CIN. Those are two sweet matchups. Is there any reason to believe that Laird can't outscore Coleman these two weeks?
Just don't see a ton of upside with Coleman while Laird could be one of those out of nowhere players that help during championship weeks.
I'm in a 12 team PPR league with 8 max spots for RBs where I can start 2 in the flex. Not even sure he is startable in a 2nd flex spot. Breida back and Mostert on the rise.
I have a bye this week but now I'm looking at weeks 15 (vs ATL) and weeks 16 (vs LAR). I could see Coleman being startable in week 15 possibly but not against the Rams run D.
Thinking of dropping for P. Laird. The Miami offense is cooking and their week 15 and 16 schedule looks great -- @NYG, CIN. Those are two sweet matchups. Is there any reason to believe that Laird can't outscore Coleman these two weeks?
Just don't see a ton of upside with Coleman while Laird could be one of those out of nowhere players that help during championship weeks.
oddsbodkins
Footballguy
I dropped in 10-team league and he still sits as a free agent after waivers.
The Frankman
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jm192
Footballguy
Bumpity bump.
Thoughts on him going into 2020?
I think he's interesting. He's in a great running offense. I think it's likely a 60-40 split in favor of Mostert. But 40% can still be pretty good. Just trying to think volume outloud: I can see him getting ~140 rushes, at his career average of 4.3, you're at 600-650 rushing yards. He's solid in the passing game, and Breida leaving opens up some catches. Perhaps another 25-35 catches for 250 yards.
Going back to 2016, his TD totals are 11, 8, 9, 7. That's despite missing 6 games. Which, he could miss some time again. But 7-8 TD's doesn't seem unreasonable. He's probably a low end flex play with tons of upside should Mostert go down.
Thoughts on him going into 2020?
I think he's interesting. He's in a great running offense. I think it's likely a 60-40 split in favor of Mostert. But 40% can still be pretty good. Just trying to think volume outloud: I can see him getting ~140 rushes, at his career average of 4.3, you're at 600-650 rushing yards. He's solid in the passing game, and Breida leaving opens up some catches. Perhaps another 25-35 catches for 250 yards.
Going back to 2016, his TD totals are 11, 8, 9, 7. That's despite missing 6 games. Which, he could miss some time again. But 7-8 TD's doesn't seem unreasonable. He's probably a low end flex play with tons of upside should Mostert go down.
The Frankman
Footballguy
whole-show
Footballguy
Tevin Coleman to miss multiple weeks with knee injury per Adam Schefter
zamboni
Footballguy
Agreed. Unless he gets healthy and everyone else gets hurt, I think the ship has sailed on him becoming what was expected when they signed him.
Who knows? I've learned not to trust the analysis from Rotoworld as it changes daily, but if you can stash him on IR I think he's worth a shot to see how it plays out. The staff there love the guy.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’m also skeptical he’s back this week. On 95.7 it was reported yesterday that Shanny said he has “an outside chance” at playing this week.
That sounds like it’s not a great chance.
That sounds like it’s not a great chance.
starks
Footballguy
You think you know but when he gets 25 touches for 175 and 3tds this weekend...then you will know hahaI’m also skeptical he’s back this week. On 95.7 it was reported yesterday that Shanny said he has “an outside chance” at playing this week.
That sounds like it’s not a great chance.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He has to practice a couple times for that to even be a remote possibility.
He had a rather significant knee injury to keep him out 5 weeks. And Hasty looked damn good.
I’m not seeing why they’d push him back this week if they don’t need to.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Yes, if he plays. And if he plays, I’d expect a RBBC with Hasty/Coleman working early downs & McKinnon on 3rd.
starks
Footballguy
Yea I was just thinking anyone that thinks they know what will happen week to week in that backfield should just quit playing FF and buy a powerball ticket.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I'm a 49ers fan. I take a very realistic approach. And if you were saying that, you should have said that. I see no way Coleman gets "20-25 touches" this week. I understand Wilson just came back and did that, but his injury was far less severe, reportedly.
Anyway, it's all moot until he returns to practice, which, it should be noted, he has not yet (others in the report have). Shanny said he hopes he can return to practice & something will be decided late in the week about whether Coleman returns this week or next. I suspect he would have to get in at least 1 practice & they'd see how he responds.
That said I can't see him getting a full workload. Never know what will happen, but we can make educated guesses based on the injury & how desperate the team is to have him back. My guess is that if Coleman does get in a partial practice & responds well, he'd be the "emergency RB" if something happens to Hasty or McKinnon. But again, I'm speculating.
starks
Footballguy
Yea shoulda clarified I was joking. What's not a joke is my hot sauce, grew some carolina reapers this year and have it fermenting with some habanero, cayenne, jalepeno and serrano. Let's trade recipes.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
dmac37
Footballguy
I don't get why Shanny still keeps him as an RB option in his offense. Every RB but Coleman puts up huge numbers in this offense yet Coleman is still expected to be in the mix, I don't get it.
His rushing attempts and yards this year in 2 games:
4 for 18
14 for 12
2019 week 1-17
137 for 544, less than 4 YPC
His rushing attempts and yards this year in 2 games:
4 for 18
14 for 12
2019 week 1-17
137 for 544, less than 4 YPC
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
My quick takes and I've had a couple of them rostered in Redraft and have one in the stable currently...
-Raheem Mostert: He is the RB1 without question and anytime he isn't on the IR he is likely to get the start and see plenty of touches or snaps, coaches love him and he seems to get results when he isn't injured.
-Tev Coleman: He has looked the worst when given more snaps and touches, at least his production does not match that of the other Backs who all seem to have success. But But But and this is key as we discuss other RBs in San Fran right now...Coleman played under Shanny with success in Atlanta and was figured to do well when he came over to San Fran. Shanny had a huge hand in his development and being signed by San Fran, it would seem Coach Kyle does not like to move on when it seems like an easy fix or solution, just get another Back, there's plenty on the roster and most seem to do well. Whenever Coleman starts to practice I would expect him to be involved in the offense and if he ever starts to look like he did in Atlanta under Shanny, this backfield will be even more crowded than it is now.
-Jerrick McKinnon: More of an emotional support dog than he is anything else right now. He is the genie in the bottle that can make wishes come true, he has to encased in bubble wrap and put out in a display case for everyone to view but not touch. He makes Fantasy Managers that roster him feel better that they have them on the roster but they can't actually use him for much. We hear he is the galloping ghost in dark corners of old seedy bars filled with sailors, but the reality is McKinnon is not worth that much now. He was quite valuable the 1st week it appeared he had a straight path to start and was the only RB standing when Moster and Coleman went down, it was his time to shine and seize the controls, how'd that work out?
JaMycal Hasty: Don't know a lot about him but I liked what I saw this past Sunday when he was called upon. He was running with a chip on his shoulder is how I would describe it. Some call it "running hard" but I like to say running with conviction, he wasn't waiting around to absorb hits, he was plant and GO! Whatever holes are there, he's gonna find them quickly. I don't see the Niners having a great match up trying to run the football which is why I think Kittle and Aiyuk will benefit and have pretty strong days. But since so many guys are injured it would seem logical Hasty should have at least half the snaps and produce I'll say 75 yds of offense and maybe a TD. I don't think that's over projecting for 1 week with the Niners style of offense. McKinnon could possibly get similar if they give him enough touches.
Jeff WIlson: Poor guy, probably the best of the bunch. Whenever he gets a decent amount of touches in a game he has a new career day it seems. He's like the guy who fixes cars but every once in a while he gets to take the Airbender around the track a few times and you wonder why he isn't a race car driver himself.
(Total SF Gumshoe Voice-1940s) "Yeah, the San Francisco backfield remains a mystery ladies and gentlemen"
-Raheem Mostert: He is the RB1 without question and anytime he isn't on the IR he is likely to get the start and see plenty of touches or snaps, coaches love him and he seems to get results when he isn't injured.
-Tev Coleman: He has looked the worst when given more snaps and touches, at least his production does not match that of the other Backs who all seem to have success. But But But and this is key as we discuss other RBs in San Fran right now...Coleman played under Shanny with success in Atlanta and was figured to do well when he came over to San Fran. Shanny had a huge hand in his development and being signed by San Fran, it would seem Coach Kyle does not like to move on when it seems like an easy fix or solution, just get another Back, there's plenty on the roster and most seem to do well. Whenever Coleman starts to practice I would expect him to be involved in the offense and if he ever starts to look like he did in Atlanta under Shanny, this backfield will be even more crowded than it is now.
-Jerrick McKinnon: More of an emotional support dog than he is anything else right now. He is the genie in the bottle that can make wishes come true, he has to encased in bubble wrap and put out in a display case for everyone to view but not touch. He makes Fantasy Managers that roster him feel better that they have them on the roster but they can't actually use him for much. We hear he is the galloping ghost in dark corners of old seedy bars filled with sailors, but the reality is McKinnon is not worth that much now. He was quite valuable the 1st week it appeared he had a straight path to start and was the only RB standing when Moster and Coleman went down, it was his time to shine and seize the controls, how'd that work out?
JaMycal Hasty: Don't know a lot about him but I liked what I saw this past Sunday when he was called upon. He was running with a chip on his shoulder is how I would describe it. Some call it "running hard" but I like to say running with conviction, he wasn't waiting around to absorb hits, he was plant and GO! Whatever holes are there, he's gonna find them quickly. I don't see the Niners having a great match up trying to run the football which is why I think Kittle and Aiyuk will benefit and have pretty strong days. But since so many guys are injured it would seem logical Hasty should have at least half the snaps and produce I'll say 75 yds of offense and maybe a TD. I don't think that's over projecting for 1 week with the Niners style of offense. McKinnon could possibly get similar if they give him enough touches.
Jeff WIlson: Poor guy, probably the best of the bunch. Whenever he gets a decent amount of touches in a game he has a new career day it seems. He's like the guy who fixes cars but every once in a while he gets to take the Airbender around the track a few times and you wonder why he isn't a race car driver himself.
(Total SF Gumshoe Voice-1940s) "Yeah, the San Francisco backfield remains a mystery ladies and gentlemen"
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